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Mon 12/03/18


Total Messages Posted: 16



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     1. 03:35 AM - Engine calendar life HS6/M14P (Harv)
     2. 03:59 AM - Re: Engine calendar life HS6/M14P (A. Dennis Savarese)
     3. 04:16 AM - Re: Engine calendar life HS6/M14P (Harv)
     4. 04:37 AM - Re: Re: Engine calendar life HS6/M14P (A. Dennis Savarese)
     5. 05:22 AM - Re: CJ Jacks needed (Greg Wrobel)
     6. 05:31 AM - CJ Parts (Jackson86)
     7. 07:04 AM - Re: CJ Pitot Static system (Harv)
     8. 07:10 AM - Re: Re: Engine calendar life HS6/M14P (George S. Coy)
     9. 07:20 AM - Re: Engine calendar life HS6/M14P (CarterM)
    10. 07:42 AM - Re: Re: Engine calendar life HS6/M14P (Peter Gardiner)
    11. 09:28 AM - Re: Re: Engine calendar life HS6/M14P (A. Dennis Savarese)
    12. 10:37 AM - Re: Re: Engine calendar life HS6/M14P (George S. Coy)
    13. 11:11 AM - Re: Re: Engine calendar life HS6/M14P (Walter Lannon)
    14. 05:37 PM - Re: Engine calendar life HS6/M14P (Harv)
    15. 06:32 PM - Anyone have experience installing/removing an ADC oil filter (1906)
    16. 08:32 PM - Spark plug washers, where to buy? (1906)
 
 
 


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    Time: 03:35:44 AM PST US
    Subject: Engine calendar life HS6/M14P
    From: "Harv" <martin.harvey@kbr.com>
    Good morning gents Just a quick one to ask what you guys are working to with your FAAs rules regarding HS6/M14P engine life? In the UK with have agreed engine hours before their overhaul and possibly some extension on condition (on a case by case basis) but I have recently been advised we have a discussion coming up regarding calendar life being imposed (which will probably mean lots of engines being scrapped). If you have or can point me in the direction of your authorities rules Id be most greatful as i will then sift through your regs and can maybe reason with the rule setters to leave things as they are. Rgs M Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=486101#486101


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    Time: 03:59:19 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Engine calendar life HS6/M14P
    From: "A. Dennis Savarese" <dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net>
    Because our CJ's and Yak's are certified in the Experimental category, there are no TBO's or life limits on the engines (Housai or M14). Dennis A. Dennis Savarese 334-546-8182 (mobile) www.yak-52.com Skype - Yakguy1 On 12/3/2018 6:35 AM, Harv wrote: > > Good morning gents > > Just a quick one to ask what you guys are working to with your FAAs rules regarding HS6/M14P engine life? > > In the UK with have agreed engine hours before their overhaul and possibly some extension on condition (on a case by case basis) but I have recently been advised we have a discussion coming up regarding calendar life being imposed (which will probably mean lots of engines being scrapped). > > If you have or can point me in the direction of your authorities rules Id be most greatful as i will then sift through your regs and can maybe reason with the rule setters to leave things as they are. > > > Rgs > M > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=486101#486101 > >


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    Time: 04:16:37 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Engine calendar life HS6/M14P
    From: "Harv" <martin.harvey@kbr.com>
    Thanks Dennis So that also covers your prop and hub with no TBO or calendar life on those? Also appreciate anymore comments from around the globe, how about rules in Canada? New Zealand and Australia? Rgs Martin Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=486103#486103


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    Time: 04:37:12 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Engine calendar life HS6/M14P
    From: "A. Dennis Savarese" <dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net>
    That's correct. Dennis A. Dennis Savarese 334-546-8182 (mobile) www.yak-52.com Skype - Yakguy1 On 12/3/2018 7:16 AM, Harv wrote: > > Thanks Dennis > So that also covers your prop and hub with no TBO or calendar life on those? > > > Also appreciate anymore comments from around the globe, how about rules in Canada? New Zealand and Australia? > > Rgs > Martin > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=486103#486103 > >


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    Time: 05:22:43 AM PST US
    From: Greg Wrobel <clouddog22@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: CJ Jacks needed
    Here is what I have had fabricated the past 4 years. Greg clouddog22@gmail.com On Fri, Nov 30, 2018, 10:21 Off2wildblue <Off2wildblue@me.com wrote: > > New CJ-6, now I need the jacks. Any idea's or does anyone have any > available? > > Also, if you made some, could you send me pics please? > > FYI, I checked and Doug Sapp doesn't have any right now. > > You can contact me off list. > > Thanks, > > SAM > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=486040#486040 > >


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    Time: 05:31:08 AM PST US
    Subject: CJ Parts
    From: "Jackson86" <Robert.karow@gmail.com>
    Hello Everyone, I am new to the list and to the CJ world. I have recently purchased a CJ project and have a variety of parts that I am selling off and I am also on the hunt for many others. As of right now I have the entire electrical system, instruments and avionics for sale, as well as any salvageable parts off of the original engine. If you have any Dynon components, M14P exhaust (Yak-18t or 52), gear doors, jacks, tooling or anything else I may end up needing please don't hesitate to contact me. Jackson Karow 352-284-9574 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=486106#486106


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    Time: 07:04:05 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: CJ Pitot Static system
    From: "Harv" <martin.harvey@kbr.com>
    Check all the flexi lines in the system for condition and security. On our CJ most of the tubing looked very tired and we replaced it and still had a few issues and these traced back to bad flexi line connection at the pitot head itself (if you remove the grub screws from it the head can be pulled forwards out of the end of the tube and this will expose the lines which gave us issues). There are a pair of water traps in the lines located in the stb wing but Ive never found anything in them. Good luck with it Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=486107#486107


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    Time: 07:10:33 AM PST US
    From: "George S. Coy" <george.coy@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Engine calendar life HS6/M14P
    Martin, Just to be clear, the U.S experimental Exhibition category uses "On Condition" for the life of the engines and propellers. It does NOT mean "Fly to Failure". The aircraft requires an annual inspection and a FAA certified mechanic has to sign that he or she considers the aircraft (including engine and propeller) as airworthy. George Coy -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Harv Sent: Monday, December 3, 2018 7:16 AM Subject: Yak-List: Re: Engine calendar life HS6/M14P Thanks Dennis So that also covers your prop and hub with no TBO or calendar life on those? Also appreciate anymore comments from around the globe, how about rules in Canada? New Zealand and Australia? Rgs Martin Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=486103#486103


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    Time: 07:20:51 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Engine calendar life HS6/M14P
    From: "CarterM" <cmann1.cm@gmail.com>
    In Canada piston engines can go beyond TBO as long as they're not in commercial operation. Constant-speed propellers have to be overhauled either: every 10 years from date of installation, or every 1500 hours (single-acting propellers)/2000 hours (double-acting propellers) - whichever comes first. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=486109#486109


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    Time: 07:42:44 AM PST US
    From: Peter Gardiner <gardcycl@hotmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Engine calendar life HS6/M14P
    Some Aussie Warbird Reading material on Yaks and CJ, engines and props http://australianwarbirds.com.au/engineering/ Engineering | Australian Warbirds Association Ltd<http://australianwarbirds .com.au/engineering/> I would like to bring to the attention of all T6/SNJ/Havard and Wirraway ow ners, UK CAA AD G-2013-001. The inspection criteria of this AD is a little more comprehensive than the associated FAA AD. australianwarbirds.com.au Regards Peter Gardiner BRIBIE ISLAND, Queensland...4507 0417646838 ________________________________ From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com <owner-yak-list-server@matronics. com> on behalf of CarterM <cmann1.cm@gmail.com> Sent: Tuesday, 4 December 2018 1:20 AM Subject: Yak-List: Re: Engine calendar life HS6/M14P In Canada piston engines can go beyond TBO as long as they're not in commer cial operation. Constant-speed propellers have to be overhauled either: every 10 years from date of installation, or every 1500 hours (single-acting propellers)/2000 hours (double-acting propellers) - whichever comes first. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=486109#486109 >


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    Time: 09:28:19 AM PST US
    From: "A. Dennis Savarese" <dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Re: Engine calendar life HS6/M14P
    GeorgeCorrect me if I'm wrong, but it is my understanding of the regulation s that the mechanic signing off the inspection is certifying the aircraft i s "In a condition for safe operation" as it says in the aircraft's Operatin g Limitation.=C2- Not "Airworthy".=C2-=C2- Airworthy, by FAA definiti ons and regulations means the aircraft meets its original Type Certificate (which of course the Yak and CJ do not have) and any STC's (Supplemental Ty pe Certificates) added or removed from the aircraft during its life, plus a ny Airworthiness Directives (AD's) have also be complied with.Dennis From: George S. Coy <george.coy@gmail.com> To: yak-list@matronics.com Sent: Monday, December 3, 2018 10:20 AM Subject: RE: Yak-List: Re: Engine calendar life HS6/M14P Martin, Just to be clear, the U.S experimental Exhibition category uses "On Condition" for the life of the engines and propellers. It does NOT mean "Fl y to Failure". The aircraft requires an annual inspection and a FAA certified mechanic has to sign that he or she considers the aircraft (including engin e and propeller) as airworthy.=C2- George Coy -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Harv Sent: Monday, December 3, 2018 7:16 AM Subject: Yak-List: Re: Engine calendar life HS6/M14P Thanks Dennis So that also covers your prop and hub with no TBO or calendar life on those ? Also appreciate anymore comments from around the globe, how about rules in Canada? New Zealand and Australia? Rgs Martin Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=486103#486103 =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- -Matt Dralle, List Admin. S - WIKI - - =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- -Matt Dralle, List Admin.


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    Time: 10:37:28 AM PST US
    From: "George S. Coy" <george.coy@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Engine calendar life HS6/M14P
    While the owner or operator is primarily responsible by this rule it does not relieve the pilot from the responsibility of determining the airworthiness of the aircraft prior to and during a flight (Ref: Section 91.7) or a mechanic from performing airworthy repairs (Ref: Section 43.13). That is what the FAR=99s say. I think the airworthiness with respect to experimental have to do with the special airworthiness certificate not the type certificate, but you could be right as well. Anyway we can split hairs with the lawyers all day, but the point I was making that our experimental aircraft are =9Con condition=9D and that is determined by the owner and the person signing it off, not by a set of rules offered up by a government body. George Coy From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of A. Dennis Savarese Sent: Monday, December 3, 2018 12:28 PM Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: Engine calendar life HS6/M14P George Correct me if I'm wrong, but it is my understanding of the regulations that the mechanic signing off the inspection is certifying the aircraft is "In a condition for safe operation" as it says in the aircraft's Operating Limitation. Not "Airworthy". Airworthy, by FAA definitions and regulations means the aircraft meets its original Type Certificate (which of course the Yak and CJ do not have) and any STC's (Supplemental Type Certificates) added or removed from the aircraft during its life, plus any Airworthiness Directives (AD's) have also be complied with. Dennis _____ From: George S. Coy <george.coy@gmail.com <mailto:george.coy@gmail.com> > Sent: Monday, December 3, 2018 10:20 AM Subject: RE: Yak-List: Re: Engine calendar life HS6/M14P <mailto:george.coy@gmail.com> > Martin, Just to be clear, the U.S experimental Exhibition category uses "On Condition" for the life of the engines and propellers. It does NOT mean "Fly to Failure". The aircraft requires an annual inspection and a FAA certified mechanic has to sign that he or she considers the aircraft (including engine and propeller) as airworthy. George Coy -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com <mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com> [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com <mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com> ] On Behalf Of Harv Sent: Monday, December 3, 2018 7:16 AM Subject: Yak-List: Re: Engine calendar life HS6/M14P <mailto:martin.harvey@kbr.com> > Thanks Dennis So that also covers your prop and hub with no TBO or calendar life on those? Also appreciate anymore comments from around the globe, how about rules in Canada? New Zealand and Australia? Rgs Martin Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=486103#486103 <================= http://www.matronics.com/contribution http://www.ma================ http://wiki.matronics.com================ === http://w=====


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    Time: 11:11:27 AM PST US
    From: "Walter Lannon" <wlannon@shaw.ca>
    Subject: Re: Engine calendar life HS6/M14P
    Harv. Canada is different than the US. There is no Experimental/ Exhibition category. The CJ and other similar aircraft (ex-military and certain other aircraft which have never carried a Civil Type Certificate) are licensed under a Special C of A, Limited Category. Maintenance and Inspection requirements are the same as any other Privately Registered, Type Certificated aircraft of similar type. ie: Annual inspection and certification by a Licensed AME. As with any other PRIVATELY registered aircraft with a piston type engine the engine is automatically On Condition upon aircraft registration. The engine life is governed by condition determined at each Annual. Not so simple with the propellor! Transport Canada did us all a big favor (according to them) years ago by mandating a 10 year calendar overhaul of ALL variable pitch propellors, whether certificated aircraft or not. The favor was to the owners of cert. types with McCauley or Hartzell props. who in the US are subject to manufacturers Service Bulletins recommending calendar overhaul at five and six years for various models. This was not a mandated requirement in the US but of course could considered as such by insurance companies. In Canada that was overridden by a 10 year legal mandate. Walt -----Original Message----- From: Harv Sent: Monday, December 03, 2018 4:16 AM Subject: Yak-List: Re: Engine calendar life HS6/M14P Thanks Dennis So that also covers your prop and hub with no TBO or calendar life on those? Also appreciate anymore comments from around the globe, how about rules in Canada? New Zealand and Australia? Rgs Martin Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=486103#486103 --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus


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    Time: 05:37:24 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Engine calendar life HS6/M14P
    From: "Harv" <martin.harvey@kbr.com>
    Naturally I do not expect to fly the aircraft until the engine or prop fails. We currently perform in depth annual inspections every 50hrs, annually and every 3 years in accordance with an agreed schedule (mine is specific to my cj6 which was agreed against using the translated Chinese maint document for the required periodic inspections). I will look further into the links supplied, with many thanks Martin Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=486122#486122


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    Time: 06:32:20 PM PST US
    Subject: Anyone have experience installing/removing an ADC oil filter
    From: "1906" <zmadwolf@gmail.com>
    My airplane (Yak-55) used to have an ADC oil filter installed and it was removed by the previous owner. There is now a hole in the dash from where the warning lamp used to be and also the factory oil chip detector is INOP. My best guess from the troubleshooting I have done so far is that the factory wire going from the sensor to the lamp has been cut as I have found some cut wires with shrink end caps on them. Is anyone familiar with these and does anyone know what a typical install involves? Would like to fix the factory lamp functionality. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=486123#486123


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    Time: 08:32:49 PM PST US
    Subject: Spark plug washers, where to buy?
    From: "1906" <zmadwolf@gmail.com>
    Also looking for a #6 cyl spark plug tool for M14P. Thanks! Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=486124#486124




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