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1. 12:58 AM - Re: Start valve air leak (Robin Hou)
2. 02:22 AM - Re: Start valve air leak (Pedro Cerveira Pinto)
3. 02:22 AM - Re: Start valve air leak (Pedro Cerveira Pinto)
4. 03:06 AM - Re: Start valve air leak (Mark Pennington)
5. 03:44 AM - Re: Start valve air leak (A. Dennis Savarese)
6. 03:49 AM - Re: Start valve air leak (A. Dennis Savarese)
7. 10:35 AM - Re: Start valve air leak (Bitterlich, Mark G CIV NAVAIR, WD)
8. 10:44 AM - Re: Start valve air leak (motoadve)
9. 10:57 AM - Re: Re: Start valve air leak (Greg Wrobel)
10. 11:00 AM - Re: Start valve air leak (Walter Lannon)
11. 11:37 AM - Re: Start valve air leak (doug sapp)
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| Subject: | Re: Start valve air leak |
M14p can also rebuild them. But you can flash it with WD-40 and likely to
extend it's service life for a few months.
On Tue, Jan 15, 2019, 21:37 motoadve <motoadve@racsa.co.cr wrote:
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> Have a big air leak in the starter valve.
> Where can I get a start valve re-build kit? looked at Doug Sapps site and
> could not find it.
>
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| Subject: | Re: Start valve air leak |
Is the start valve the same of yak52?
Na(o) quarta, 16/01/2019, 05:30, motoadve <motoadve@racsa.co.cr> escreveu:
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> Have a big air leak in the starter valve.
> Where can I get a start valve re-build kit? looked at Doug Sapps site and
> could not find it.
>
> --------
> www.Backcountry182.com
> Cessna 182 P
> CJ -6
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> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=487008#487008
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| Subject: | Re: Start valve air leak |
If it's the same you just have to change the o ring inside. Easy to find in
a car shop
Na(o) quarta, 16/01/2019, 05:30, motoadve <motoadve@racsa.co.cr> escreveu:
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> Have a big air leak in the starter valve.
> Where can I get a start valve re-build kit? looked at Doug Sapps site and
> could not find it.
>
> --------
> www.Backcountry182.com
> Cessna 182 P
> CJ -6
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=487008#487008
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| Subject: | Re: Start valve air leak |
If you own a CJ. And you do. All roads lead back to Doug Sapp.
Honest information. Years of experience.
Mark (CJ Owner)
On Wed, Jan 16, 2019 at 12:30 AM motoadve <motoadve@racsa.co.cr> wrote:
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> Have a big air leak in the starter valve.
> Where can I get a start valve re-build kit? looked at Doug Sapps site and
> could not find it.
>
> --------
> www.Backcountry182.com
> Cessna 182 P
> CJ -6
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=487008#487008
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| Subject: | Re: Start valve air leak |
You would be much better off replacing it with a new one from Doug Sapp.
=C2- Ask Doug if he has one with the small tab on the side.=C2- The tab
is a manual release in case your battery will not activate the solenoid.
=C2- VERY beneficial to have.Dennis
On Wednesday, January 16, 2019, 6:09:40 AM EST, Mark Pennington <pennin
gton.construction.inc.1@gmail.com> wrote:
If you own a CJ.=C2- And you do.=C2- All roads lead back to Doug Sapp.
=C2-
Honest information.=C2- Years of experience. =C2-
Mark (CJ Owner)
On Wed, Jan 16, 2019 at 12:30 AM motoadve <motoadve@racsa.co.cr> wrote:
Have a big air leak in the starter valve.
Where can I get a start valve re-build kit? looked at Doug Sapps site and c
ould not find it.
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| Subject: | Re: Start valve air leak |
Yes, with one minor difference - sometimes.=C2- The Yak 52 air start val
ves all have the small manual release tab on the side.=C2- Some of the on
es I've seen on the CJ's do not have the manual release tab.=C2- If you c
an buy one with the manual release tab, get it.=C2- Some day you just may
need it.Dennis
On Wednesday, January 16, 2019, 5:25:01 AM EST, Pedro Cerveira Pinto <c
erveirapinto@gmail.com> wrote:
Is the start valve the same of yak52?
Na(o) quarta, 16/01/2019, 05:30, motoadve <motoadve@racsa.co.cr> escreveu:
Have a big air leak in the starter valve.
Where can I get a start valve re-build kit? looked at Doug Sapps site and c
ould not find it.
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| Subject: | Re: Start valve air leak |
On that note, if you have a bad starter valve that has the manual lever, and you
happen to get a new valve WITHOUT the manual start lever/tab it is possible
to take the housing off the old one and put it on the new one and retain the capability.
Mark
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Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2019 6:49 AM
Subject: [Non-DoD Source] Re: Yak-List: Start valve air leak
Yes, with one minor difference - sometimes. The Yak 52 air start valves all have
the small manual release tab on the side. Some of the ones I've seen on the
CJ's do not have the manual release tab. If you can buy one with the manual
release tab, get it. Some day you just may need it.
Dennis
On Wednesday, January 16, 2019, 5:25:01 AM EST, Pedro Cerveira Pinto <cerveirapinto@gmail.com>
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Is the start valve the same of yak52?
Na(o) quarta, 16/01/2019, 05:30, motoadve <motoadve@racsa.co.cr <mailto:motoadve@racsa.co.cr> > escreveu:
Have a big air leak in the starter valve.
Where can I get a start valve re-build kit? looked at Doug Sapps site and
could not find it.
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| Subject: | Re: Start valve air leak |
Thanks for the replies, talked to Doug Sapp, he told me how to WD40 the Starter
valve and see if that fixes it , before buying another one.
Which I think its great from Doug instead of just trying to sell me one immediately.
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| Subject: | Re: Start valve air leak |
And that's why we love Doug Sapp. We love him like a dog..... Not like a
woman. To be perfectly clear!!!
On Wed, Jan 16, 2019, 12:52 motoadve <motoadve@racsa.co.cr wrote:
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> Thanks for the replies, talked to Doug Sapp, he told me how to WD40 the
> Starter valve and see if that fixes it , before buying another one.
>
> Which I think its great from Doug instead of just trying to sell me one
> immediately.
>
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> Cessna 182 P
> CJ -6
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| Subject: | Re: Start valve air leak |
The early production of the CJ6 air start valve unit was in all likely hood
identical to the Russian unit and included the manual start tab discussed
here. This tab was almost certainly intended for ground maintenance person
nel use.
At some point this feature was removed in Chinese production probably for g
round safety reasons and I can think of two or three scenarios here that on
e would definitely want to avoid.
In about 25 years of restoring and maintaining CJ=99s I can not recal
l ever having used this.
When you overhaul the unit you have the choice of retaining or discarding t
his feature.
Walt
From: A. Dennis Savarese
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2019 3:49 AM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Start valve air leak
Yes, with one minor difference - sometimes. The Yak 52 air start valves al
l have the small manual release tab on the side. Some of the ones I've see
n on the CJ's do not have the manual release tab. If you can buy one with
the manual release tab, get it. Some day you just may need it.
Dennis
On Wednesday, January 16, 2019, 5:25:01 AM EST, Pedro Cerveira Pinto <cerve
irapinto@gmail.com> wrote:
Is the start valve the same of yak52?
Na(o) quarta, 16/01/2019, 05:30, motoadve <motoadve@racsa.co.cr> escreveu:
Have a big air leak in the starter valve.
Where can I get a start valve re-build kit? looked at Doug Sapps site and
could not find it.
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Cessna 182 P
CJ -6
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| Subject: | Re: Start valve air leak |
I have a slightly different take on the situation than my good friend
Walt. Hopefully we will be able to discuss this and other more pressing
world issues over some good Canadian whisky (his, not mine).
Because the QDF-1 start solenoids are widely used on the air start systems
in the marine industry in China NEW QDF-1 valves are getting hard to find.
This has caused me to establish contact with the firm in China which
overhauls these units for the PLAAF. While all seem to be of high quality,
some of the overhauled valves which I have received have had the levers and
some have not. *However 100% of the factory NEW valves which I have
received to date have had the levers. * This indicated to me that the
removal of the levers is perhaps something that is done at the unit level
in the PLAAF, and not at the factory which manufactures the valves.
Doug
On Wed, Jan 16, 2019 at 11:08 AM Walter Lannon <wlannon@shaw.ca> wrote:
> The early production of the CJ6 air start valve unit was in all likely
> hood identical to the Russian unit and included the manual start tab
> discussed here. This tab was almost certainly intended for ground
> maintenance personnel use.
> At some point this feature was removed in Chinese production probably for
> ground safety reasons and I can think of two or three scenarios here that
> one would definitely want to avoid.
> In about 25 years of restoring and maintaining CJ=99s I can not rec
all ever
> having used this.
>
> When you overhaul the unit you have the choice of retaining or discarding
> this feature.
>
> Walt
>
>
> *From:* A. Dennis Savarese <dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 16, 2019 3:49 AM
> *To:* yak-list@matronics.com
> *Subject:* Re: Yak-List: Start valve air leak
>
> Yes, with one minor difference - sometimes. The Yak 52 air start valves
> all have the small manual release tab on the side. Some of the ones I've
> seen on the CJ's do not have the manual release tab. If you can buy one
> with the manual release tab, get it. Some day you just may need it.
> Dennis
>
> On Wednesday, January 16, 2019, 5:25:01 AM EST, Pedro Cerveira Pinto <
> cerveirapinto@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Is the start valve the same of yak52?
>
>
> Na(o) quarta, 16/01/2019, 05:30, motoadve <motoadve@racsa.co.cr> escreveu
:
>
>
> Have a big air leak in the starter valve.
> Where can I get a start valve re-build kit? looked at Doug Sapps site and
> could not find it.
>
> --------
> www.Backcountry182.com
> Cessna 182 P
> CJ -6
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=487008#487008
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