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4. 10:32 AM - Re: Re: Starting Problems (Mark Pennington)
5. 04:19 PM - Re: Re: Starting Problems (Warren Hill)
6. 04:33 PM - Re: Re: Starting Problems (Byron Fox)
7. 04:39 PM - Re: Re: Starting Problems (Walter Lannon)
8. 05:30 PM - Re: Re: Starting Problems (Walter Lannon)
9. 05:58 PM - Re: Re: Starting Problems (Byron Fox)
10. 06:13 PM - Re: Re: Starting Problems (Warren Hill)
11. 06:49 PM - Re: Re: Starting Problems (Walter Lannon)
12. 07:30 PM - Re: Re: Starting Problems (Warren Hill)
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| Subject: | Re: Starting Problems |
For both the Yak and the CJ, the pneumatic system is one of the most important
aspects, but almost continuously problematic. Over the years, I ended up replacing
every check and shuttle value and pretty much all of the tubing before a
long list of constantly appearing problems finally disappeared. Replaced the starter
solenoid valve early in the game. Just comes with the territory. Here are
some thoughts after years of work one the pneumatic system of my CJ.
Use the highest quality tubing you can find. Avoid inexpensive, thin wall bargains.
New B-nuts and collars from Doug Sapp is the way to go.
Flaring tool that compresses the base of the flare rather than stretches it.
Avoids creating a failure point.
Secure the tubing with Adel clamps. Vibration is the most common cause of failure.
Replace/rebuild the check/shuttle values at regular intervals. Corrosion is
insidious.
Dont forget to service the air/water separator twice a year.
Lubricate the system with 50-50 mixture of 98% alcohol and glycerine every
3-4 months if you fly on a regular basis.
Get/borrow an ultrasonic leak detector. Will uncover much more than is obvious.
Replace old rubber/cloth actuator and brake lines. They do not age well.
Bypass everything in the aft cockpit. Not needed and just another source of
potential leaks.
Replace the main and emergency air tanks with new from Doug Sapp. Close to
failure-proof.
Do not get frustrated when some part of the pneumatic system fails. This is what
we signed up for when purchasing these airplanes. Just fix it and move on. However,
over time be proactive and plan to replace prior to failure the oldest
parts, even if they are working. Its not really if they will fail but rather
when it will happen. To my way of thinking, its easiest to do this beforehand.
Warren Hill
N464TW
Mesa, AZ
> On Jan 27, 2019, at 12:09 AM, Stressmerchant <mike_beresford@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
>
> Some feedback on the starting problem:
> We eventually replaced the solenoid valve, and the starting improved. Still not
as good as I'd like it, but on most days I can get a start without having to
drag the scuba cylinder out.
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=487292#487292
>
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| Subject: | Re: Starting Problems |
Thanks Warren. Superb list. Where can I locate a flaring tool that
compresses rather than stretches? I have a cheapo one of the latter variety
that I've never liked.
Also, my recollection is that Doug Sapp recommends cod liver oil to
lubricate the system. I gather though that you've had success with the
alcohol/glycerine formula over the years.
On Sun, Jan 27, 2019 at 7:19 AM Warren Hill <hill@doctor-hill.com> wrote:
>
> For both the Yak and the CJ, the pneumatic system is one of the most
> important aspects, but almost continuously problematic. Over the years, I
> ended up replacing every check and shuttle value and pretty much all of t
he
> tubing before a long list of constantly appearing problems finally
> disappeared. Replaced the starter solenoid valve early in the game. Just
> comes with the territory. Here are some thoughts after years of work one
> the pneumatic system of my CJ.
>
> =A2 Use the highest quality tubing you can find. Avoid inexpensi
ve, thin
> wall bargains.
> =A2 New B-nuts and collars from Doug Sapp is the way to go.
> =A2 Flaring tool that compresses the base of the flare rather th
an
> stretches it. Avoids creating a failure point.
> =A2 Secure the tubing with Adel clamps. Vibration is the most co
mmon
> cause of failure.
> =A2 Replace/rebuild the check/shuttle values at regular interval
s.
> Corrosion is insidious.
> =A2 Don=99t forget to service the air/water separator twic
e a year.
> =A2 Lubricate the system with 50-50 mixture of 98% alcohol and g
lycerine
> every 3-4 months if you fly on a regular basis.
> =A2 Get/borrow an ultrasonic leak detector. Will uncover much mo
re than
> is obvious.
> =A2 Replace old rubber/cloth actuator and brake lines. They do n
ot age
> well.
> =A2 Bypass everything in the aft cockpit. Not needed and just an
other
> source of potential leaks.
> =A2 Replace the main and emergency air tanks with new from Doug
Sapp.
> Close to failure-proof.
>
> Do not get frustrated when some part of the pneumatic system fails. This
> is what we signed up for when purchasing these airplanes. Just fix it and
> move on. However, over time be proactive and plan to replace prior to
> failure the oldest parts, even if they are working. It=99s not real
ly if they
> will fail but rather when it will happen. To my way of thinking, it
=99s
> easiest to do this beforehand.
>
> Warren Hill
> N464TW
> Mesa, AZ
>
>
> > On Jan 27, 2019, at 12:09 AM, Stressmerchant <mike_beresford@yahoo.co.u
k>
> wrote:
> >
> mike_beresford@yahoo.co.uk>
> >
> > Some feedback on the starting problem:
> > We eventually replaced the solenoid valve, and the starting improved.
> Still not as good as I'd like it, but on most days I can get a start
> without having to drag the scuba cylinder out.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Read this topic online here:
> >
> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=487292#487292
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Byron M. Fox
Director, VP
TDA Investment Group, Inc
415-307-2405
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| Subject: | Re: Starting Problems |
Agree with all. Been there done that, proudly wear the T-shirt.
I would add. Talk to Doug about his final filter design made from check
valves.
I have those in my plane. Cured dirty tubing etc. Love Doug=99s fi
nal
filter.
Mark Pennington
N621CJ
On Sun, Jan 27, 2019 at 12:07 PM Byron Fox <byronmfox@gmail.com> wrote:
> Thanks Warren. Superb list. Where can I locate a flaring tool that
> compresses rather than stretches? I have a cheapo one of the latter varie
ty
> that I've never liked.
>
> Also, my recollection is that Doug Sapp recommends cod liver oil to
> lubricate the system. I gather though that you've had success with the
> alcohol/glycerine formula over the years.
>
> On Sun, Jan 27, 2019 at 7:19 AM Warren Hill <hill@doctor-hill.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> For both the Yak and the CJ, the pneumatic system is one of the most
>> important aspects, but almost continuously problematic. Over the years,
I
>> ended up replacing every check and shuttle value and pretty much all of
the
>> tubing before a long list of constantly appearing problems finally
>> disappeared. Replaced the starter solenoid valve early in the game. Just
>> comes with the territory. Here are some thoughts after years of work one
>> the pneumatic system of my CJ.
>>
>> =A2 Use the highest quality tubing you can find. Avoid inexpens
ive, thin
>> wall bargains.
>> =A2 New B-nuts and collars from Doug Sapp is the way to go.
>> =A2 Flaring tool that compresses the base of the flare rather t
han
>> stretches it. Avoids creating a failure point.
>> =A2 Secure the tubing with Adel clamps. Vibration is the most c
ommon
>> cause of failure.
>> =A2 Replace/rebuild the check/shuttle values at regular interva
ls.
>> Corrosion is insidious.
>> =A2 Don=99t forget to service the air/water separator twi
ce a year.
>> =A2 Lubricate the system with 50-50 mixture of 98% alcohol and
glycerine
>> every 3-4 months if you fly on a regular basis.
>> =A2 Get/borrow an ultrasonic leak detector. Will uncover much m
ore than
>> is obvious.
>> =A2 Replace old rubber/cloth actuator and brake lines. They do
not age
>> well.
>> =A2 Bypass everything in the aft cockpit. Not needed and just a
nother
>> source of potential leaks.
>> =A2 Replace the main and emergency air tanks with new from Doug
Sapp.
>> Close to failure-proof.
>>
>> Do not get frustrated when some part of the pneumatic system fails. This
>> is what we signed up for when purchasing these airplanes. Just fix it an
d
>> move on. However, over time be proactive and plan to replace prior to
>> failure the oldest parts, even if they are working. It=99s not rea
lly if they
>> will fail but rather when it will happen. To my way of thinking, it
=99s
>> easiest to do this beforehand.
>>
>> Warren Hill
>> N464TW
>> Mesa, AZ
>>
>>
>> > On Jan 27, 2019, at 12:09 AM, Stressmerchant <
>> mike_beresford@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>> >
>> mike_beresford@yahoo.co.uk>
>> >
>> > Some feedback on the starting problem:
>> > We eventually replaced the solenoid valve, and the starting improved.
>> Still not as good as I'd like it, but on most days I can get a start
>> without having to drag the scuba cylinder out.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Read this topic online here:
>> >
>> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=487292#487292
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
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>> >
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> Byron M. Fox
> Director, VP
> TDA Investment Group, Inc
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| Subject: | Re: Starting Problems |
Agree with all. Been there done that, proudly wear the T-shirt.
I would add. Talk to Doug about his final filter design made from check
valves.
I have those in my plane. Cured dirty tubing etc. Love Doug=99s fi
nal
filter.
Mark Pennington
N621CJ
On Sun, Jan 27, 2019 at 10:19 AM Warren Hill <hill@doctor-hill.com> wrote:
>
> For both the Yak and the CJ, the pneumatic system is one of the most
> important aspects, but almost continuously problematic. Over the years, I
> ended up replacing every check and shuttle value and pretty much all of t
he
> tubing before a long list of constantly appearing problems finally
> disappeared. Replaced the starter solenoid valve early in the game. Just
> comes with the territory. Here are some thoughts after years of work one
> the pneumatic system of my CJ.
>
> =A2 Use the highest quality tubing you can find. Avoid inexpensi
ve, thin
> wall bargains.
> =A2 New B-nuts and collars from Doug Sapp is the way to go.
> =A2 Flaring tool that compresses the base of the flare rather th
an
> stretches it. Avoids creating a failure point.
> =A2 Secure the tubing with Adel clamps. Vibration is the most co
mmon
> cause of failure.
> =A2 Replace/rebuild the check/shuttle values at regular interval
s.
> Corrosion is insidious.
> =A2 Don=99t forget to service the air/water separator twic
e a year.
> =A2 Lubricate the system with 50-50 mixture of 98% alcohol and g
lycerine
> every 3-4 months if you fly on a regular basis.
> =A2 Get/borrow an ultrasonic leak detector. Will uncover much mo
re than
> is obvious.
> =A2 Replace old rubber/cloth actuator and brake lines. They do n
ot age
> well.
> =A2 Bypass everything in the aft cockpit. Not needed and just an
other
> source of potential leaks.
> =A2 Replace the main and emergency air tanks with new from Doug
Sapp.
> Close to failure-proof.
>
> Do not get frustrated when some part of the pneumatic system fails. This
> is what we signed up for when purchasing these airplanes. Just fix it and
> move on. However, over time be proactive and plan to replace prior to
> failure the oldest parts, even if they are working. It=99s not real
ly if they
> will fail but rather when it will happen. To my way of thinking, it
=99s
> easiest to do this beforehand.
>
> Warren Hill
> N464TW
> Mesa, AZ
>
>
> > On Jan 27, 2019, at 12:09 AM, Stressmerchant <mike_beresford@yahoo.co.u
k>
> wrote:
> >
> mike_beresford@yahoo.co.uk>
> >
> > Some feedback on the starting problem:
> > We eventually replaced the solenoid valve, and the starting improved.
> Still not as good as I'd like it, but on most days I can get a start
> without having to drag the scuba cylinder out.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Read this topic online here:
> >
> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=487292#487292
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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| Subject: | Re: Starting Problems |
Byron,
Next time I go to the hangar I=99ll take a picture of the flaring
tool. Rather than the =C2=BC inch aluminum line that=99s commonly
used, I use 6 mm tubing and the flaring tool is metric. 6 mm tubing is
often used in foreign automotive brake system applications. Lots of
different vendors. This is also available in stainless steel, which is
harder to work and flare, but far more durable.
As any experienced A&P will tell you, properly flaring the end of a tube
is something of an art. There are many details that make the difference
between creating something long-lasting and something that temporarily
gets you by. Also, flaring is only a part of the overall exercise. If
the nipple is bunged up, a perfect flare will leak. And if the B-nut is
under or over tightened, the connection will not work or last as
advertised. My experience has been that most of the fail points in a
pneumatic system are the result of something preventable.
I=99ve heard of many approaches to servicing the system: WD40, cod
liver oil, compressor oil and glycerine. Glycerine is what I=99ve
always used and it seems to work well. This is easily ordered on Amazon
as =9CGlycerol Glycerin.=9D 30 ml of reagent grade glycerine
for about $6.
Warren Hill
N464TW
Mesa, AZ
> On Jan 27, 2019, at 10:00 AM, Byron Fox <byronmfox@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Thanks Warren. Superb list. Where can I locate a flaring tool that
compresses rather than stretches? I have a cheapo one of the latter
variety that I've never liked.
>
> Also, my recollection is that Doug Sapp recommends cod liver oil to
lubricate the system. I gather though that you've had success with the
alcohol/glycerine formula over the years.
>
> On Sun, Jan 27, 2019 at 7:19 AM Warren Hill <hill@doctor-hill.com
<mailto:hill@doctor-hill.com>> wrote:
<mailto:hill@doctor-hill.com>>
>
> For both the Yak and the CJ, the pneumatic system is one of the most
important aspects, but almost continuously problematic. Over the years,
I ended up replacing every check and shuttle value and pretty much all
of the tubing before a long list of constantly appearing problems
finally disappeared. Replaced the starter solenoid valve early in the
game. Just comes with the territory. Here are some thoughts after years
of work one the pneumatic system of my CJ.
>
> =A2 Use the highest quality tubing you can find. Avoid
inexpensive, thin wall bargains.
> =A2 New B-nuts and collars from Doug Sapp is the way to go.
> =A2 Flaring tool that compresses the base of the flare rather
than stretches it. Avoids creating a failure point.
> =A2 Secure the tubing with Adel clamps. Vibration is the most
common cause of failure.
> =A2 Replace/rebuild the check/shuttle values at regular
intervals. Corrosion is insidious.
> =A2 Don=99t forget to service the air/water separator
twice a year.
> =A2 Lubricate the system with 50-50 mixture of 98% alcohol
and glycerine every 3-4 months if you fly on a regular basis.
> =A2 Get/borrow an ultrasonic leak detector. Will uncover much
more than is obvious.
> =A2 Replace old rubber/cloth actuator and brake lines. They
do not age well.
> =A2 Bypass everything in the aft cockpit. Not needed and just
another source of potential leaks.
> =A2 Replace the main and emergency air tanks with new from
Doug Sapp. Close to failure-proof.
>
> Do not get frustrated when some part of the pneumatic system fails.
This is what we signed up for when purchasing these airplanes. Just fix
it and move on. However, over time be proactive and plan to replace
prior to failure the oldest parts, even if they are working. It=99s
not really if they will fail but rather when it will happen. To my way
of thinking, it=99s easiest to do this beforehand.
>
> Warren Hill
> N464TW
> Mesa, AZ
>
>
> > On Jan 27, 2019, at 12:09 AM, Stressmerchant
<mike_beresford@yahoo.co.uk <mailto:mike_beresford@yahoo.co.uk>> wrote:
> >
<mike_beresford@yahoo.co.uk <mailto:mike_beresford@yahoo.co.uk>>
> >
> > Some feedback on the starting problem:
> > We eventually replaced the solenoid valve, and the starting
improved. Still not as good as I'd like it, but on most days I can get a
start without having to drag the scuba cylinder out.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Read this topic online here:
> >
> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=487292#487292
<http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=487292#487292>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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| Subject: | Re: Starting Problems |
Many thanks, Warren
Blitz Fox
415-307-2405
> On Jan 27, 2019, at 10:31 AM, Mark Pennington <pennington.construction.inc
.1@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Agree with all. Been there done that, proudly wear the T-shirt.
>
> I would add. Talk to Doug about his final filter design made from check v
alves.
>
> I have those in my plane. Cured dirty tubing etc. Love Doug=99s f
inal filter.
>
> Mark Pennington
> N621CJ
>
>> On Sun, Jan 27, 2019 at 10:19 AM Warren Hill <hill@doctor-hill.com> wrote
:
>>
>> For both the Yak and the CJ, the pneumatic system is one of the most impo
rtant aspects, but almost continuously problematic. Over the years, I ended u
p replacing every check and shuttle value and pretty much all of the tubing b
efore a long list of constantly appearing problems finally disappeared. Repl
aced the starter solenoid valve early in the game. Just comes with the terri
tory. Here are some thoughts after years of work one the pneumatic system of
my CJ.
>>
>> =A2 Use the highest quality tubing you can find. Avoid inexpensi
ve, thin wall bargains.
>> =A2 New B-nuts and collars from Doug Sapp is the way to go.
>> =A2 Flaring tool that compresses the base of the flare rather th
an stretches it. Avoids creating a failure point.
>> =A2 Secure the tubing with Adel clamps. Vibration is the most co
mmon cause of failure.
>> =A2 Replace/rebuild the check/shuttle values at regular interval
s. Corrosion is insidious.
>> =A2 Don=99t forget to service the air/water separator twic
e a year.
>> =A2 Lubricate the system with 50-50 mixture of 98% alcohol and g
lycerine every 3-4 months if you fly on a regular basis.
>> =A2 Get/borrow an ultrasonic leak detector. Will uncover much mo
re than is obvious.
>> =A2 Replace old rubber/cloth actuator and brake lines. They do n
ot age well.
>> =A2 Bypass everything in the aft cockpit. Not needed and just an
other source of potential leaks.
>> =A2 Replace the main and emergency air tanks with new from Doug S
app. Close to failure-proof.
>>
>> Do not get frustrated when some part of the pneumatic system fails. This i
s what we signed up for when purchasing these airplanes. Just fix it and mov
e on. However, over time be proactive and plan to replace prior to failure t
he oldest parts, even if they are working. It=99s not really if they w
ill fail but rather when it will happen. To my way of thinking, it=99s
easiest to do this beforehand.
>>
>> Warren Hill
>> N464TW
>> Mesa, AZ
>>
>>
>> > On Jan 27, 2019, at 12:09 AM, Stressmerchant <mike_beresford@yahoo.co.u
k> wrote:
>> >
co.uk>
>> >
>> > Some feedback on the starting problem:
>> > We eventually replaced the solenoid valve, and the starting improved. S
till not as good as I'd like it, but on most days I can get a start without h
aving to drag the scuba cylinder out.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Read this topic online here:
>> >
>> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=487292#487292
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
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| Subject: | Re: Starting Problems |
Blitz;
Parker 37 deg. Flaring tool. On sale at TAS for $99.00.
Walt
From: Byron Fox
Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2019 9:00 AM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: Starting Problems
Thanks Warren. Superb list. Where can I locate a flaring tool that compress
es rather than stretches? I have a cheapo one of the latter variety that I'
ve never liked.
Also, my recollection is that Doug Sapp recommends cod liver oil to lubrica
te the system. I gather though that you've had success with the alcohol/gly
cerine formula over the years.
On Sun, Jan 27, 2019 at 7:19 AM Warren Hill <hill@doctor-hill.com> wrote:
For both the Yak and the CJ, the pneumatic system is one of the most impo
rtant aspects, but almost continuously problematic. Over the years, I ended
up replacing every check and shuttle value and pretty much all of the tubi
ng before a long list of constantly appearing problems finally disappeared.
Replaced the starter solenoid valve early in the game. Just comes with the
territory. Here are some thoughts after years of work one the pneumatic sy
stem of my CJ.
=A2 Use the highest quality tubing you can find. Avoid inexpensi
ve, thin wall bargains.
=A2 New B-nuts and collars from Doug Sapp is the way to go.
=A2 Flaring tool that compresses the base of the flare rather th
an stretches it. Avoids creating a failure point.
=A2 Secure the tubing with Adel clamps. Vibration is the most co
mmon cause of failure.
=A2 Replace/rebuild the check/shuttle values at regular interval
s. Corrosion is insidious.
=A2 Don=99t forget to service the air/water separator twic
e a year.
=A2 Lubricate the system with 50-50 mixture of 98% alcohol and g
lycerine every 3-4 months if you fly on a regular basis.
=A2 Get/borrow an ultrasonic leak detector. Will uncover much mo
re than is obvious.
=A2 Replace old rubber/cloth actuator and brake lines. They do n
ot age well.
=A2 Bypass everything in the aft cockpit. Not needed and just an
other source of potential leaks.
=A2 Replace the main and emergency air tanks with new from Doug
Sapp. Close to failure-proof.
Do not get frustrated when some part of the pneumatic system fails. This
is what we signed up for when purchasing these airplanes. Just fix it and m
ove on. However, over time be proactive and plan to replace prior to failur
e the oldest parts, even if they are working. It=99s not really if th
ey will fail but rather when it will happen. To my way of thinking, it
=99s easiest to do this beforehand.
Warren Hill
N464TW
Mesa, AZ
> On Jan 27, 2019, at 12:09 AM, Stressmerchant <mike_beresford@yahoo.co.u
k> wrote:
>
co.uk>
>
> Some feedback on the starting problem:
> We eventually replaced the solenoid valve, and the starting improved. S
till not as good as I'd like it, but on most days I can get a start without
having to drag the scuba cylinder out.
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=487292#487292
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Hi Blitz;
Just read Warren=99s post which reminded me I should have advised tha
t use of the aircraft flaring tool for the 6 mm tubing requires the use of
a small piece of 400 grit (or close) wet-or-dry wrapped around the tubing t
o take up the .014=9D clearance. A small pain in the ass but not a p
roblem. For the 8mm tubing the 5/16 setting is just fine.
Perhaps Warren could advise if he has found a metric AIRCRAFT flaring tool
which would be great! The standard (non-aircraft) metric flare is 90 deg.
(inc. angle) while all aircraft (including the CJ) use the universal aircra
ft standard of 37.5 degs. (75 deg. inc.).
The Parker aircraft flaring tool is an excellent device and will give you p
erfect flares every time.
Walt
From: Byron Fox
Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2019 4:33 PM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: Starting Problems
Many thanks, Warren
Blitz Fox
415-307-2405
On Jan 27, 2019, at 10:31 AM, Mark Pennington <pennington.construction.inc.
1@gmail.com> wrote:
Agree with all. Been there done that, proudly wear the T-shirt.
I would add. Talk to Doug about his final filter design made from check
valves.
I have those in my plane. Cured dirty tubing etc. Love Doug=99s
final filter.
Mark Pennington
N621CJ
On Sun, Jan 27, 2019 at 10:19 AM Warren Hill <hill@doctor-hill.com> wrote
:
For both the Yak and the CJ, the pneumatic system is one of the most im
portant aspects, but almost continuously problematic. Over the years, I end
ed up replacing every check and shuttle value and pretty much all of the tu
bing before a long list of constantly appearing problems finally disappeare
d. Replaced the starter solenoid valve early in the game. Just comes with t
he territory. Here are some thoughts after years of work one the pneumatic
system of my CJ.
=A2 Use the highest quality tubing you can find. Avoid inexpen
sive, thin wall bargains.
=A2 New B-nuts and collars from Doug Sapp is the way to go.
=A2 Flaring tool that compresses the base of the flare rather
than stretches it. Avoids creating a failure point.
=A2 Secure the tubing with Adel clamps. Vibration is the most
common cause of failure.
=A2 Replace/rebuild the check/shuttle values at regular interv
als. Corrosion is insidious.
=A2 Don=99t forget to service the air/water separator tw
ice a year.
=A2 Lubricate the system with 50-50 mixture of 98% alcohol and
glycerine every 3-4 months if you fly on a regular basis.
=A2 Get/borrow an ultrasonic leak detector. Will uncover much
more than is obvious.
=A2 Replace old rubber/cloth actuator and brake lines. They do
not age well.
=A2 Bypass everything in the aft cockpit. Not needed and just
another source of potential leaks.
=A2 Replace the main and emergency air tanks with new from Dou
g Sapp. Close to failure-proof.
Do not get frustrated when some part of the pneumatic system fails. Thi
s is what we signed up for when purchasing these airplanes. Just fix it and
move on. However, over time be proactive and plan to replace prior to fail
ure the oldest parts, even if they are working. It=99s not really if
they will fail but rather when it will happen. To my way of thinking, it
=99s easiest to do this beforehand.
Warren Hill
N464TW
Mesa, AZ
> On Jan 27, 2019, at 12:09 AM, Stressmerchant <mike_beresford@yahoo.co
=2Euk> wrote:
>
o.co.uk>
>
> Some feedback on the starting problem:
> We eventually replaced the solenoid valve, and the starting improved.
Still not as good as I'd like it, but on most days I can get a start witho
ut having to drag the scuba cylinder out.
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=487292#487292
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Walt, I=99m ignorant. What=99s TAS?
Blitz Fox
415-307-2405
> On Jan 27, 2019, at 4:37 PM, Walter Lannon <wlannon@shaw.ca> wrote:
>
> Blitz;
>
> Parker 37 deg. Flaring tool. On sale at TAS for $99.00.
>
> Walt
>
> From: Byron Fox
> Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2019 9:00 AM
> To: Yak LIst
> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: Starting Problems
>
> Thanks Warren. Superb list. Where can I locate a flaring tool that compres
ses rather than stretches? I have a cheapo one of the latter variety that I'
ve never liked.
>
> Also, my recollection is that Doug Sapp recommends cod liver oil to lubric
ate the system. I gather though that you've had success with the alcohol/gly
cerine formula over the years.
>
>> On Sun, Jan 27, 2019 at 7:19 AM Warren Hill <hill@doctor-hill.com> wrote:
>>
>> For both the Yak and the CJ, the pneumatic system is one of the most impo
rtant aspects, but almost continuously problematic. Over the years, I ended u
p replacing every check and shuttle value and pretty much all of the tubing b
efore a long list of constantly appearing problems finally disappeared. Repl
aced the starter solenoid valve early in the game. Just comes with the terri
tory. Here are some thoughts after years of work one the pneumatic system of
my CJ.
>>
>> =A2 Use the highest quality tubing you can find. Avoid inexpensi
ve, thin wall bargains.
>> =A2 New B-nuts and collars from Doug Sapp is the way to go.
>> =A2 Flaring tool that compresses the base of the flare rather th
an stretches it. Avoids creating a failure point.
>> =A2 Secure the tubing with Adel clamps. Vibration is the most co
mmon cause of failure.
>> =A2 Replace/rebuild the check/shuttle values at regular interval
s. Corrosion is insidious.
>> =A2 Don=99t forget to service the air/water separator twic
e a year.
>> =A2 Lubricate the system with 50-50 mixture of 98% alcohol and g
lycerine every 3-4 months if you fly on a regular basis.
>> =A2 Get/borrow an ultrasonic leak detector. Will uncover much mo
re than is obvious.
>> =A2 Replace old rubber/cloth actuator and brake lines. They do n
ot age well.
>> =A2 Bypass everything in the aft cockpit. Not needed and just an
other source of potential leaks.
>> =A2 Replace the main and emergency air tanks with new from Doug S
app. Close to failure-proof.
>>
>> Do not get frustrated when some part of the pneumatic system fails. This i
s what we signed up for when purchasing these airplanes. Just fix it and mov
e on. However, over time be proactive and plan to replace prior to failure t
he oldest parts, even if they are working. It=99s not really if they w
ill fail but rather when it will happen. To my way of thinking, it=99s
easiest to do this beforehand.
>>
>> Warren Hill
>> N464TW
>> Mesa, AZ
>>
>>
>> > On Jan 27, 2019, at 12:09 AM, Stressmerchant <mike_beresford@yahoo.co.u
k> wrote:
>> >
co.uk>
>> >
>> > Some feedback on the starting problem:
>> > We eventually replaced the solenoid valve, and the starting improved. S
till not as good as I'd like it, but on most days I can get a start witho
ut having to drag the scuba cylinder out.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Read this topic online here:
>> >
>> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=487292#487292
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
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Walt,
For those using replacement =C2=BC inch aluminum, the Rigid 377 flaring
tool will also do a nice 37 degree flare and does not stretch the base
of the flare.
Warren
> On Jan 27, 2019, at 6:29 PM, Walter Lannon <wlannon@shaw.ca> wrote:
>
> Hi Blitz;
>
> Just read Warren=99s post which reminded me I should have
advised that use of the aircraft flaring tool for the 6 mm tubing
requires the use of a small piece of 400 grit (or close) wet-or-dry
wrapped around the tubing to take up the .014=9D clearance. A
small pain in the ass but not a problem. For the 8mm tubing the 5/16
setting is just fine.
> Perhaps Warren could advise if he has found a metric AIRCRAFT flaring
tool which would be great! The standard (non-aircraft) metric flare is
90 deg. (inc. angle) while all aircraft (including the CJ) use the
universal aircraft standard of 37.5 degs. (75 deg. inc.).
>
> The Parker aircraft flaring tool is an excellent device and will give
you perfect flares every time.
>
> Walt
>
> From: Byron Fox <mailto:byronmfox@gmail.com>
> Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2019 4:33 PM
> To: yak-list@matronics.com <mailto:yak-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: Starting Problems
>
> Many thanks, Warren
>
> Blitz Fox
> 415-307-2405
>
>
> On Jan 27, 2019, at 10:31 AM, Mark Pennington
<pennington.construction.inc.1@gmail.com
<mailto:pennington.construction.inc.1@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>> Agree with all. Been there done that, proudly wear the T-shirt.
>>
>> I would add. Talk to Doug about his final filter design made from
check valves.
>>
>> I have those in my plane. Cured dirty tubing etc. Love Doug=99
s final filter.
>>
>> Mark Pennington
>> N621CJ
>>
>> On Sun, Jan 27, 2019 at 10:19 AM Warren Hill <hill@doctor-hill.com
<mailto:hill@doctor-hill.com>> wrote:
<mailto:hill@doctor-hill.com>>
>>>
>>> For both the Yak and the CJ, the pneumatic system is one of the most
important aspects, but almost continuously problematic. Over the years,
I ended up replacing every check and shuttle value and pretty much all
of the tubing before a long list of constantly appearing problems
finally disappeared. Replaced the starter solenoid valve early in the
game. Just comes with the territory. Here are some thoughts after years
of work one the pneumatic system of my CJ.
>>>
>>> =A2 Use the highest quality tubing you can find. Avoid
inexpensive, thin wall bargains.
>>> =A2 New B-nuts and collars from Doug Sapp is the way to go.
>>> =A2 Flaring tool that compresses the base of the flare
rather than stretches it. Avoids creating a failure point.
>>> =A2 Secure the tubing with Adel clamps. Vibration is the
most common cause of failure.
>>> =A2 Replace/rebuild the check/shuttle values at regular
intervals. Corrosion is insidious.
>>> =A2 Don=99t forget to service the air/water separator
twice a year.
>>> =A2 Lubricate the system with 50-50 mixture of 98% alcohol
and glycerine every 3-4 months if you fly on a regular basis.
>>> =A2 Get/borrow an ultrasonic leak detector. Will uncover
much more than is obvious.
>>> =A2 Replace old rubber/cloth actuator and brake lines. They
do not age well.
>>> =A2 Bypass everything in the aft cockpit. Not needed and
just another source of potential leaks.
>>> =A2 Replace the main and emergency air tanks with new from
Doug Sapp. Close to failure-proof.
>>>
>>> Do not get frustrated when some part of the pneumatic system fails.
This is what we signed up for when purchasing these airplanes. Just fix
it and move on. However, over time be proactive and plan to replace
prior to failure the oldest parts, even if they are working. It=99s
not really if they will fail but rather when it will happen. To my way
of thinking, it=99s easiest to do this beforehand.
>>>
>>> Warren Hill
>>> N464TW
>>> Mesa, AZ
>>>
>>>
>>> > On Jan 27, 2019, at 12:09 AM, Stressmerchant
<mike_beresford@yahoo.co.uk <mailto:mike_beresford@yahoo.co.uk>> wrote:
>>> >
<mike_beresford@yahoo.co.uk <mailto:mike_beresford@yahoo.co.uk>>
>>> >
>>> > Some feedback on the starting problem:
>>> > We eventually replaced the solenoid valve, and the starting
improved. Still not as good as I'd like it, but on most days I can get a
start without having to drag the scuba cylinder out.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Read this topic online here:
>>> >
>>> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=487292#487292
<http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=487292#487292>
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
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My bad! Sorry.
It=99s ATS (Aircraft Tool Supply)
Walt
From: Byron Fox
Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2019 5:55 PM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: Starting Problems
Walt, I=99m ignorant. What=99s TAS?
Blitz Fox
415-307-2405
On Jan 27, 2019, at 4:37 PM, Walter Lannon <wlannon@shaw.ca> wrote:
Blitz;
Parker 37 deg. Flaring tool. On sale at TAS for $99.00.
Walt
From: Byron Fox
Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2019 9:00 AM
To: Yak LIst
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: Starting Problems
Thanks Warren. Superb list. Where can I locate a flaring tool that compre
sses rather than stretches? I have a cheapo one of the latter variety that
I've never liked.
Also, my recollection is that Doug Sapp recommends cod liver oil to lubri
cate the system. I gather though that you've had success with the alcohol/g
lycerine formula over the years.
On Sun, Jan 27, 2019 at 7:19 AM Warren Hill <hill@doctor-hill.com> wrote:
For both the Yak and the CJ, the pneumatic system is one of the most im
portant aspects, but almost continuously problematic. Over the years, I end
ed up replacing every check and shuttle value and pretty much all of the tu
bing before a long list of constantly appearing problems finally disappeare
d. Replaced the starter solenoid valve early in the game. Just comes with t
he territory. Here are some thoughts after years of work one the pneumatic
system of my CJ.
=A2 Use the highest quality tubing you can find. Avoid inexpen
sive, thin wall bargains.
=A2 New B-nuts and collars from Doug Sapp is the way to go.
=A2 Flaring tool that compresses the base of the flare rather
than stretches it. Avoids creating a failure point.
=A2 Secure the tubing with Adel clamps. Vibration is the most
common cause of failure.
=A2 Replace/rebuild the check/shuttle values at regular interv
als. Corrosion is insidious.
=A2 Don=99t forget to service the air/water separator tw
ice a year.
=A2 Lubricate the system with 50-50 mixture of 98% alcohol and
glycerine every 3-4 months if you fly on a regular basis.
=A2 Get/borrow an ultrasonic leak detector. Will uncover much
more than is obvious.
=A2 Replace old rubber/cloth actuator and brake lines. They do
not age well.
=A2 Bypass everything in the aft cockpit. Not needed and just
another source of potential leaks.
=A2 Replace the main and emergency air tanks with new from Dou
g Sapp. Close to failure-proof.
Do not get frustrated when some part of the pneumatic system fails. Thi
s is what we signed up for when purchasing these airplanes. Just fix it and
move on. However, over time be proactive and plan to replace prior to fail
ure the oldest parts, even if they are working. It=99s not really if
they will fail but rather when it will happen. To my way of thinking, it
=99s easiest to do this beforehand.
Warren Hill
N464TW
Mesa, AZ
> On Jan 27, 2019, at 12:09 AM, Stressmerchant <mike_beresford@yahoo.co
=2Euk> wrote:
>
o.co.uk>
>
> Some feedback on the starting problem:
> We eventually replaced the solenoid valve, and the starting improved.
Still not as good as I'd like it, but on most days I can get a start witho
ut having to drag the scuba cylinder out.
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=487292#487292
>
>
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For 6 mm tubing, the ROL-AIR IMP.507-FBM will do a 37 degree metric
flare.
For =C2=BC inch tubing, I like the Rigid 337.
Warren
> On Jan 27, 2019, at 7:48 PM, Walter Lannon <wlannon@shaw.ca> wrote:
>
> My bad! Sorry.
>
> It=99s ATS (Aircraft Tool Supply)
>
> Walt
>
> From: Byron Fox <mailto:byronmfox@gmail.com>
> Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2019 5:55 PM
> To: yak-list@matronics.com <mailto:yak-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: Starting Problems
>
> Walt, I=99m ignorant. What=99s TAS?
>
> Blitz Fox
> 415-307-2405
>
>
> On Jan 27, 2019, at 4:37 PM, Walter Lannon <wlannon@shaw.ca
<mailto:wlannon@shaw.ca>> wrote:
>
>> Blitz;
>>
>> Parker 37 deg. Flaring tool. On sale at TAS for $99.00.
>>
>> Walt
>>
>> From: Byron Fox <mailto:byronmfox@gmail.com>
>> Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2019 9:00 AM
>> To: Yak LIst <mailto:yak-list@matronics.com>
>> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: Starting Problems
>>
>> Thanks Warren. Superb list. Where can I locate a flaring tool that
compresses rather than stretches? I have a cheapo one of the latter
variety that I've never liked.
>>
>> Also, my recollection is that Doug Sapp recommends cod liver oil to
lubricate the system. I gather though that you've had success with the
alcohol/glycerine formula over the years.
>>
>> On Sun, Jan 27, 2019 at 7:19 AM Warren Hill <hill@doctor-hill.com
<mailto:hill@doctor-hill.com>> wrote:
<mailto:hill@doctor-hill.com>>
>>>
>>> For both the Yak and the CJ, the pneumatic system is one of the most
important aspects, but almost continuously problematic. Over the years,
I ended up replacing every check and shuttle value and pretty much all
of the tubing before a long list of constantly appearing problems
finally disappeared. Replaced the starter solenoid valve early in the
game. Just comes with the territory. Here are some thoughts after years
of work one the pneumatic system of my CJ.
>>>
>>> =A2 Use the highest quality tubing you can find. Avoid
inexpensive, thin wall bargains.
>>> =A2 New B-nuts and collars from Doug Sapp is the way to go.
>>> =A2 Flaring tool that compresses the base of the flare
rather than stretches it. Avoids creating a failure point.
>>> =A2 Secure the tubing with Adel clamps. Vibration is the
most common cause of failure.
>>> =A2 Replace/rebuild the check/shuttle values at regular
intervals. Corrosion is insidious.
>>> =A2 Don=99t forget to service the air/water separator
twice a year.
>>> =A2 Lubricate the system with 50-50 mixture of 98% alcohol
and glycerine every 3-4 months if you fly on a regular basis.
>>> =A2 Get/borrow an ultrasonic leak detector. Will uncover
much more than is obvious.
>>> =A2 Replace old rubber/cloth actuator and brake lines. They
do not age well.
>>> =A2 Bypass everything in the aft cockpit. Not needed and
just another source of potential leaks.
>>> =A2 Replace the main and emergency air tanks with new from
Doug Sapp. Close to failure-proof.
>>>
>>> Do not get frustrated when some part of the pneumatic system fails.
This is what we signed up for when purchasing these airplanes. Just fix
it and move on. However, over time be proactive and plan to replace
prior to failure the oldest parts, even if they are working. It=99s
not really if they will fail but rather when it will happen. To my way
of thinking, it=99s easiest to do this beforehand.
>>>
>>> Warren Hill
>>> N464TW
>>> Mesa, AZ
>>>
>>>
>>> > On Jan 27, 2019, at 12:09 AM, Stressmerchant
<mike_beresford@yahoo.co.uk <mailto:mike_beresford@yahoo.co.uk>> wrote:
>>> >
<mike_beresford@yahoo.co.uk <mailto:mike_beresford@yahoo.co.uk>>
>>> >
>>> > Some feedback on the starting problem:
>>> > We eventually replaced the solenoid valve, and the starting
improved. Still not as good as I'd like it, but on most days I can get a
start without having to drag the scuba cylinder out.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Read this topic online here:
>>> >
>>> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=487292#487292
<http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=487292#487292>
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