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1. 05:52 AM - Hoses (Caseyrosz)
2. 05:54 AM - Flap actuator (Caseyrosz)
3. 07:39 AM - Re: ADSB Skybeacon...-52 (Richard Romaine)
4. 08:21 AM - Re: JL-2B Three Blade Metal Prop For Sale (doug sapp)
5. 08:34 AM - Re: JL-2B Three Blade Metal Prop For Sale (\)
6. 08:42 AM - Re: Re: Cockpit signage/placards (Justin Drafts)
7. 09:54 AM - Re: JL-2B Three Blade Metal Prop For Sale (Richard Goode)
8. 02:16 PM - Re: JL-2B Three Blade Metal Prop For Sale (George Coy)
9. 08:24 PM - Re: JL-2B Three Blade Metal Prop For Sale (Walter Lannon)
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I know in the past there has been a lot of discussion on hose availablity and US
substitutes. What is the current best option to replace the fuel lines from
the header to the main tanks on my yak 52? Mine have started leaking.
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Does anyone have pictures, or schematic or parts diagram on how the yak 52 flap
actuator comes apart?
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| Subject: | Re: ADSB Skybeacon...-52 |
CJ installation of uavionix skybeacon (left wing, ads-b out) and skysensor (
right wing, ads-b in). Includes LED position lights, strobes, internal waas
gps and wireless for configuration/monitor and ads-b in. Only downside is t
hat if anything fails entire unit must be replaced (at least that=99s u
avionix current position). Ads-b in overlays ForeFlight graphics.
My CJ was a yakkity overhaul back in =9896, with wingtip position/stro
bes. Strobes had been rewired later with their own switched power (not in c
ombo with position lt), so after removing strobe high voltage power supply f
rom inside wingtips it was one for one to uavionix. Given wingtip visibilit
y to belly transponder antenna, I had to go to =9C35=9D on sensi
tivity in configuration app.
=9CHardest=9D part was removing wingtip and retapping light asse
mbly nut plates for larger uavionix mounting screws. Uavionix tech folks ar
e very helpful.
I went with the experimental versions that are not eligible for FAA rebate.
TSO version costs about same after rebate, but requires rebate hoops and ta
xman levy...and maybe experimental version has more compliance flexibility i
n future if FAA ever issues an AD...
Cheers, Rich
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| Subject: | Re: JL-2B Three Blade Metal Prop For Sale |
I don't know of any 285 hp engines with a flanged shaft, the engine in
question may be a M14B.
Doug
On Fri, Feb 15, 2019 at 10:55 PM Richard Goode <
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> Please contact me if you are interested in this prop and hub. It has a
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| Subject: | Re: JL-2B Three Blade Metal Prop For Sale |
=C2-Every Chinese HS6 engine had the spline shaft while the M-14p had the
flange shaft.=C2- However the prop worked the same way and even appears
to me were the same sizes.I don't know if any one has measured or tried to
switch prop blades to see if they are interchangeable.=C2- I'm not sure i
f there would be any advantage either.=C2- There are number of parts that
are interchangeable between engines.=C2- Most notable the mags.=C2- At
one point I had a regular M-14 mag and a Chinese HS6 running on my M-14 en
gine.=C2- Merely setting the timing differently on the HS6 mag.=C2- I w
onder if it would be possible to interchange something like accessory secti
on or crank. =C2-Jim "Pappy" Goolsby=C2------Original Message-----
From: Richard Goode <Richard.goode@russianaeros.com>
Sent: Sat, Feb 16, 2019 1:50 am
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For my interest, did many HS-6 engines have the Russian propeller shaft wit
h radial splines?
Richard Goode
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From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@mat
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Sent: 11 February 2019 05:58
Subject: Yak-List: JL-2B Three Blade Metal Prop For Sale
Please contact me if you are interested in this prop and hub. It has a flan
ge for an M-14P motor. Super smooth!
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| Subject: | Re: Cockpit signage/placards |
These are excellent, thanks---
Justin/N280NC
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| Subject: | JL-2B Three Blade Metal Prop For Sale |
Of course, the Chinese began by being given the Russian AI14 engine of
260 hp, but in the same way as they modified the Yak 18 A airframe very
dramatically, they also made many changes to the engine. We have been
intending to get into the business of overhauling the Chinese engines
since we have all the necessary parts for the AI 14 engine, but having
completely disassembled one HS-6 engine to investigate, there are so
many parts that are different, we simply could not do a really good
overhaul today!
But, the magnetos are effectively identical.
But to go back to the first question, did they make many engines with
the Russian propeller flange and indeed did they make many corresponding
propellers?
Richard Goode
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of "
Sent: 16 February 2019 16:34
Subject: Re: Yak-List: JL-2B Three Blade Metal Prop For Sale
Every Chinese HS6 engine had the spline shaft while the M-14p had the
flange shaft. However the prop worked the same way and even appears to
me were the same sizes.
I don't know if any one has measured or tried to switch prop blades to
see if they are interchangeable. I'm not sure if there would be any
advantage either. There are number of parts that are interchangeable
between engines. Most notable the mags. At one point I had a regular
M-14 mag and a Chinese HS6 running on my M-14 engine. Merely setting
the timing differently on the HS6 mag. I wonder if it would be possible
to interchange something like accessory section or crank.
Jim "Pappy" Goolsby
-----Original Message-----
From: Richard Goode <Richard.goode@russianaeros.com
<mailto:Richard.goode@russianaeros.com> >
Sent: Sat, Feb 16, 2019 1:50 am
Subject: RE: Yak-List: JL-2B Three Blade Metal Prop For Sale
<Richard.goode@russianaeros.com <mailto:Richard.goode@russianaeros.com>
>
For my interest, did many HS-6 engines have the Russian propeller shaft
with radial splines?
Richard Goode
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[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of glipaz
Sent: 11 February 2019 05:58
Subject: Yak-List: JL-2B Three Blade Metal Prop For Sale
<mailto:glipaz@yahoo.com> >
Please contact me if you are interested in this prop and hub. It has a
flange for an M-14P motor. Super smooth!
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| Subject: | JL-2B Three Blade Metal Prop For Sale |
The Chinese did make a 365 hp engine and a 3 blade prop. I don=99t
think it ever went into serial production.
They also had 6 M14P engines for the Yak 152 project that also never
went into production.
George
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Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2019 12:54 PM
Subject: RE: Yak-List: JL-2B Three Blade Metal Prop For Sale
Of course, the Chinese began by being given the Russian AI14 engine of
260 hp, but in the same way as they modified the Yak 18 A airframe very
dramatically, they also made many changes to the engine. We have been
intending to get into the business of overhauling the Chinese engines
since we have all the necessary parts for the AI 14 engine, but having
completely disassembled one HS-6 engine to investigate, there are so
many parts that are different, we simply could not do a really good
overhaul today!
But, the magnetos are effectively identical.
But to go back to the first question, did they make many engines with
the Russian propeller flange and indeed did they make many corresponding
propellers?
Richard Goode
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
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[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of "
Sent: 16 February 2019 16:34
Subject: Re: Yak-List: JL-2B Three Blade Metal Prop For Sale
Every Chinese HS6 engine had the spline shaft while the M-14p had the
flange shaft. However the prop worked the same way and even appears to
me were the same sizes.
I don't know if any one has measured or tried to switch prop blades to
see if they are interchangeable. I'm not sure if there would be any
advantage either. There are number of parts that are interchangeable
between engines. Most notable the mags. At one point I had a regular
M-14 mag and a Chinese HS6 running on my M-14 engine. Merely setting
the timing differently on the HS6 mag. I wonder if it would be possible
to interchange something like accessory section or crank.
Jim "Pappy" Goolsby
-----Original Message-----
From: Richard Goode <Richard.goode@russianaeros.com
<mailto:Richard.goode@russianaeros.com> >
Sent: Sat, Feb 16, 2019 1:50 am
Subject: RE: Yak-List: JL-2B Three Blade Metal Prop For Sale
<Richard.goode@russianaeros.com <mailto:Richard.goode@russianaeros.com>
>
For my interest, did many HS-6 engines have the Russian propeller shaft
with radial splines?
Richard Goode
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
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Sent: 11 February 2019 05:58
Subject: Yak-List: JL-2B Three Blade Metal Prop For Sale
<mailto:glipaz@yahoo.com> >
Please contact me if you are interested in this prop and hub. It has a
flange for an M-14P motor. Super smooth!
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| Subject: | Re: JL-2B Three Blade Metal Prop For Sale |
Pappy;
The Chinese standard two blade (Type J9G1) prop. is BASICALLY the same desi
gn as the two blade Russian or Polish V530 type with some very significant
differences.
1. The hub forging: The Chinese hub (G1) consists of two parts, the forgi
ng and a splined mounting sleeve (mated and serialized together) for mounti
ng on a splined shaft. The Russian unit (V530) is a one piece forging with
an integral flange machined to a Russian engine standard.
2. The blade bearings, removable inner race and retaining nut, c/w integra
l outer race, are identical and interchangeable.
3. The blade grips with integral bearing races and blade drive pin are EXT
ERNALLY identical. Internally they are quite different!
4. The Chinese use a forged aluminum alloy blade (J9) designed to screw in
to the blade grip with a thread form appropriate for the characteristics of
the
blade material. The wooden blades of course have an integral steel ba
se with an entirely different thread form.
One could install Russian blade grips (and blades) in a Chinese hub or vice
versa, if one was so inclined!
Best
Walt
From: "
Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2019 8:34 AM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: JL-2B Three Blade Metal Prop For Sale
Every Chinese HS6 engine had the spline shaft while the M-14p had the flang
e shaft. However the prop worked the same way and even appears to me were
the same sizes.
I don't know if any one has measured or tried to switch prop blades to see
if they are interchangeable. I'm not sure if there would be any advantage
either. There are number of parts that are interchangeable between engines
=2E Most notable the mags. At one point I had a regular M-14 mag and a Ch
inese HS6 running on my M-14 engine. Merely setting the timing differently
on the HS6 mag. I wonder if it would be possible to interchange something
like accessory section or crank.
Jim "Pappy" Goolsby
-----Original Message-----
From: Richard Goode <Richard.goode@russianaeros.com>
Sent: Sat, Feb 16, 2019 1:50 am
Subject: RE: Yak-List: JL-2B Three Blade Metal Prop For Sale
=2Ecom>
For my interest, did many HS-6 engines have the Russian propeller shaft wit
h radial splines?
Richard Goode
-----Original Message-----
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Sent: 11 February 2019 05:58
Subject: Yak-List: JL-2B Three Blade Metal Prop For Sale
Please contact me if you are interested in this prop and hub. It has a flan
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