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1. 05:11 AM - M-14P with electric start (dbflr)
2. 07:18 AM - Re: Oil change (Justin Drafts)
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4. 09:35 AM - Re: Oil change (Warren Hill)
5. 11:42 AM - Re: Oil change (Justin Drafts)
6. 01:53 PM - Re: Oil change (Michael Foster)
7. 02:14 PM - Re: Oil change (\)
8. 09:34 PM - Re: Oil change (Walter Lannon)
9. 09:57 PM - Re: Oil change (Walter Lannon)
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Any operators on this list ?
i suppose if people fly it without vanes they don't have problem controlling CHT
?
or are there issues and you'd wish you had those vanes ?
need to decide on configuration and would appreciate your advise off the list
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As a safety measure, at every oil change I remove *all* my oil screens,
rinse with avgas, blow dry with compressed air, visually inspect, reinstall
and safety back into place.
It's tedious but time well spent!
Justin
N280NC
On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 1:26 AM motoadve <motoadve@racsa.co.cr> wrote:
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> Since I dont have an oil filter, I will be doing the oil change at 25 hrs.
>
> Do I need to remove all the screens? or which ones are required to be
> inspected?
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A 10 micron oil filte will greatly extend the time between overhauls.=C2-
I seen this not only my M-14p but on the B-24s PW1830 and B-17s W-1820s.
=C2- I had over 1800 hours on my M-14 before I did a zero overhaul.=C2-
I had done 2 top overhauls during that time.=C2- When we opened her up,
she still looked clean in side.=C2- Most of the time I'd do oil changes a
t the 40 hours mark.=C2- On the B-17 & B-24 we change engines at around 1
200 hours.=C2- On those engines not only fine oil filters but the way we
ran them.=C2- During the war they were happy to get 400 hours on an engin
e.Jim "Pappy" Goolsby
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From: Justin Drafts <draftsjust417@gmail.com>
Sent: Tue, Mar 12, 2019 10:19 am
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Oil change
As a safety measure, at every oil change I remove all my oil screens, rinse
with avgas, blow dry with compressed air, visually inspect, reinstall and
safety back into place.It's tedious but time well spent!
JustinN280NC
On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 1:26 AM motoadve <motoadve@racsa.co.cr> wrote:
Since I dont have an oil filter, I will be doing the oil change at 25 hrs.
Do I need to remove all the screens? or which ones are required to be inspe
cted?
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Justin,
For years, I=99ve been using the Cross 10 micron filter with the
spin-on firewall mounted oil filter kit from Craig Payne.
www.hydrafil.com
Cross 1A9021
P/N RxC10DD67-S4-10CLB
Warren
N464TW
Mesa, AZ
> On Mar 12, 2019, at 8:06 AM, "\"" <cjpilot710@aol.com>
<cjpilot710@aol.com> <cjpilot710@aol.com> wrote:
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> A 10 micron oil filte will greatly extend the time between overhauls.
I seen this not only my M-14p but on the B-24s PW1830 and B-17s W-1820s.
I had over 1800 hours on my M-14 before I did a zero overhaul. I had
done 2 top overhauls during that time. When we opened her up, she still
looked clean in side. Most of the time I'd do oil changes at the 40
hours mark. On the B-17 & B-24 we change engines at around 1200 hours.
On those engines not only fine oil filters but the way we ran them.
During the war they were happy to get 400 hours on an engine.
> Jim "Pappy" Goolsby
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Justin Drafts <draftsjust417@gmail.com>
> To: yak-list <yak-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Tue, Mar 12, 2019 10:19 am
> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Oil change
>
> As a safety measure, at every oil change I remove all my oil screens,
rinse with avgas, blow dry with compressed air, visually inspect,
reinstall and safety back into place.
> It's tedious but time well spent!
>
> Justin
> N280NC
>
> On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 1:26 AM motoadve <motoadve@racsa.co.cr <>>
wrote:
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> Since I dont have an oil filter, I will be doing the oil change at 25
hrs.
>
> Do I need to remove all the screens? or which ones are required to be
inspected?
>
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Yes, have one in my 280NC as well & it works very well... well worth the
few extra $.
*Just* advised Jeremy to look into the same!
Thanks- Justin
On 12:40, Tue, Mar 12, 2019 Warren Hill <hill@doctor-hill.com wrote:
> Justin,
>
> For years, I=99ve been using the Cross 10 micron filter with the sp
in-on
> firewall mounted oil filter kit from Craig Payne.
>
> www.hydrafil.com
> Cross 1A9021
> P/N RxC10DD67-S4-10CLB
>
> Warren
> N464TW
> Mesa, AZ
>
>
> On Mar 12, 2019, at 8:06 AM, "\"" <cjpilot710@aol.com> <cjpilot710@aol.co
m>
> <cjpilot710@aol.com> wrote:
>
> A 10 micron oil filte will greatly extend the time between overhauls. I
> seen this not only my M-14p but on the B-24s PW1830 and B-17s W-1820s. I
> had over 1800 hours on my M-14 before I did a zero overhaul. I had done
2
> top overhauls during that time. When we opened her up, she still looked
> clean in side. Most of the time I'd do oil changes at the 40 hours mark.
> On the B-17 & B-24 we change engines at around 1200 hours. On those
> engines not only fine oil filters but the way we ran them. During the wa
r
> they were happy to get 400 hours on an engine.
> Jim "Pappy" Goolsby
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Justin Drafts <draftsjust417@gmail.com>
> To: yak-list <yak-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Tue, Mar 12, 2019 10:19 am
> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Oil change
>
> As a safety measure, at every oil change I remove *all* my oil screens,
> rinse with avgas, blow dry with compressed air, visually inspect, reinsta
ll
> and safety back into place.
> It's tedious but time well spent!
>
> Justin
> N280NC
>
> On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 1:26 AM motoadve <motoadve@racsa.co.cr> wrote:
>
>
> Since I dont have an oil filter, I will be doing the oil change at 25 hrs
.
>
> Do I need to remove all the screens? or which ones are required to be
> inspected?
>
> --------
> www.Backcountry182.com
> Cessna 182 P
> CJ -6
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With respect to your latest post... You need to invest in a spin on oil filt
er AND a maintenance manual. The filter is probably the most cost effective i
mprovement you can do to your engine. A manual will help you properly mainta
in your airplane and probably answer 90% of the questions you post.
Doug is a great asset to our community. Support him. He is always very helpf
ul and I get parts usually in two days to Florida from him.
Sent from my iPhone
> On Mar 12, 2019, at 12:08, Warren Hill <hill@doctor-hill.com> wrote:
>
> Justin,
>
> For years, I=99ve been using the Cross 10 micron filter with the spi
n-on firewall mounted oil filter kit from Craig Payne.
>
> www.hydrafil.com
> Cross 1A9021
> P/N RxC10DD67-S4-10CLB
>
> Warren
> N464TW
> Mesa, AZ
>
>
>> On Mar 12, 2019, at 8:06 AM, "\"" <cjpilot710@aol.com> <cjpilot710@aol.co
m> <cjpilot710@aol.com> wrote:
>>
>> A 10 micron oil filte will greatly extend the time between overhauls. I s
een this not only my M-14p but on the B-24s PW1830 and B-17s W-1820s. I had
over 1800 hours on my M-14 before I did a zero overhaul. I had done 2 top o
verhauls during that time. When we opened her up, she still looked clean in
side. Most of the time I'd do oil changes at the 40 hours mark. On the B-
17 & B-24 we change engines at around 1200 hours. On those engines not only
fine oil filters but the way we ran them. During the war they were happy t
o get 400 hours on an engine.
>> Jim "Pappy" Goolsby
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Justin Drafts <draftsjust417@gmail.com>
>> To: yak-list <yak-list@matronics.com>
>> Sent: Tue, Mar 12, 2019 10:19 am
>> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Oil change
>>
>> As a safety measure, at every oil change I remove all my oil screens, rin
se with avgas, blow dry with compressed air, visually inspect, reinstall and
safety back into place.
>> It's tedious but time well spent!
>>
>> Justin
>> N280NC
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 1:26 AM motoadve <motoadve@racsa.co.cr> wrote:
>>
>> Since I dont have an oil filter, I will be doing the oil change at 25 hrs
.
>>
>> Do I need to remove all the screens? or which ones are required to be ins
pected?
>>
>> --------
>> www.Backcountry182.com
>> Cessna 182 P
>> CJ -6
>>
>>
>>
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>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=488015#488015
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Justin,The common theroy is that any particulats in these engines over 25 m
icrons in size cause engine wear.=C2- Therefore if you put a 10 micron fi
lter to catch those larger particulats coming OUT of the engine, the whole
system stays pretty clean.=C2- It is surprising too, how much dirty air t
hese engine breath.=C2- Thus putting a airfilter on the carb intake is an
excellent idea.=C2- The sand - and thats what most of it is, has more cu
tting power -if you will- then the carbon from combustion.=C2- Another ch
oise is the oil you use.=C2- I use a detergent oil.=C2- This keeps slug
e from building up in passage ways and restricting flow.=C2-Jim "Pappy" G
oolsby
-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Foster <michaelfoster@bellsouth.net>
Sent: Tue, Mar 12, 2019 4:54 pm
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Oil change
With respect to your latest post... You need to invest in a spin on oil fil
ter AND a maintenance manual. The filter is probably the most cost effectiv
e improvement you can do to your engine. A manual will help you properly ma
intain your airplane and probably answer 90% of the questions you post.=C2
-
Doug is a great asset to our community. Support him. He is always very help
ful and I get parts usually in two days to Florida from him.=C2-
Sent from my iPhone
On Mar 12, 2019, at 12:08, Warren Hill <hill@doctor-hill.com> wrote:
Justin,
For years, I=99ve been using the Cross 10 micron filter with the spin
-on firewall mounted oil filter kit from Craig Payne.=C2-
=C2- =C2- =C2-www.hydrafil.com=C2- =C2- =C2-Cross 1A9021=C2-
=C2- =C2-P/N RxC10DD67-S4-10CLB
WarrenN464TWMesa, AZ
=C2-
On Mar 12, 2019, at 8:06 AM, "\"" <cjpilot710@aol.com> <cjpilot710@aol.com>
<cjpilot710@aol.com> wrote:
A 10 micron oil filte will greatly extend the time between overhauls.=C2-
I seen this not only my M-14p but on the B-24s PW1830 and B-17s W-1820s.
=C2- I had over 1800 hours on my M-14 before I did a zero overhaul.=C2-
I had done 2 top overhauls during that time.=C2- When we opened her up,
she still looked clean in side.=C2- Most of the time I'd do oil changes a
t the 40 hours mark.=C2- On the B-17 & B-24 we change engines at around 1
200 hours.=C2- On those engines not only fine oil filters but the way we
ran them.=C2- During the war they were happy to get 400 hours on an engin
e.Jim "Pappy" Goolsby
-----Original Message-----
From: Justin Drafts <draftsjust417@gmail.com>
Sent: Tue, Mar 12, 2019 10:19 am
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Oil change
As a safety measure, at every oil change I remove all my oil screens, rinse
with avgas, blow dry with compressed air, visually inspect, reinstall and
safety back into place.It's tedious but time well spent!
JustinN280NC
On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 1:26 AM motoadve <motoadve@racsa.co.cr> wrote:
Since I dont have an oil filter, I will be doing the oil change at 25 hrs.
Do I need to remove all the screens? or which ones are required to be inspe
cted?
--------
www.Backcountry182.com
Cessna 182 P
CJ -6
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Pappy;
Actually you are using an AD or Ashless Dispersant oil which has a similar
cleaning effect.
Automotive detergent oils can cause pre-ignition in air cooled engines whic
h do not cool as uniformly as liquid. They are not approved for use in an
aircraft engine.
Cheers;
Walt
From:
Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2019 2:12 PM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Oil change
Justin,
The common theroy is that any particulats in these engines over 25 microns
in size cause engine wear. Therefore if you put a 10 micron filter to catc
h those larger particulats coming OUT of the engine, the whole system stays
pretty clean. It is surprising too, how much dirty air these engine breat
h. Thus putting a airfilter on the carb intake is an excellent idea. The
sand - and thats what most of it is, has more cutting power -if you will- t
hen the carbon from combustion. Another choise is the oil you use. I use
a detergent oil. This keeps sluge from building up in passage ways and res
tricting flow.
Jim "Pappy" Goolsby
-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Foster <michaelfoster@bellsouth.net>
Sent: Tue, Mar 12, 2019 4:54 pm
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Oil change
With respect to your latest post... You need to invest in a spin on oil fil
ter AND a maintenance manual. The filter is probably the most cost effectiv
e improvement you can do to your engine. A manual will help you properly ma
intain your airplane and probably answer 90% of the questions you post.
Doug is a great asset to our community. Support him. He is always very help
ful and I get parts usually in two days to Florida from him.
Sent from my iPhone
On Mar 12, 2019, at 12:08, Warren Hill <hill@doctor-hill.com> wrote:
Justin,
For years, I=99ve been using the Cross 10 micron filter with the spin
-on firewall mounted oil filter kit from Craig Payne.
www.hydrafil.com
Cross 1A9021
P/N RxC10DD67-S4-10CLB
Warren
N464TW
Mesa, AZ
On Mar 12, 2019, at 8:06 AM, "\"" <cjpilot710@aol.com> <cjpilot710@aol.co
m> <cjpilot710@aol.com> wrote:
A 10 micron oil filte will greatly extend the time between overhauls. I
seen this not only my M-14p but on the B-24s PW1830 and B-17s W-1820s. I h
ad over 1800 hours on my M-14 before I did a zero overhaul. I had done 2 t
op overhauls during that time. When we opened her up, she still looked cle
an in side. Most of the time I'd do oil changes at the 40 hours mark. On
the B-17 & B-24 we change engines at around 1200 hours. On those engines n
ot only fine oil filters but the way we ran them. During the war they were
happy to get 400 hours on an engine.
Jim "Pappy" Goolsby
-----Original Message-----
From: Justin Drafts <draftsjust417@gmail.com>
To: yak-list <yak-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Tue, Mar 12, 2019 10:19 am
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Oil change
As a safety measure, at every oil change I remove all my oil screens, rin
se with avgas, blow dry with compressed air, visually inspect, reinstall an
d safety back into place.
It's tedious but time well spent!
Justin
N280NC
On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 1:26 AM motoadve <motoadve@racsa.co.cr> wrote:
Since I dont have an oil filter, I will be doing the oil change at 25 h
rs.
Do I need to remove all the screens? or which ones are required to be i
nspected?
--------
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Cessna 182 P
CJ -6
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Justin;
Speaking of safety measures using avgas (or any gasoline) as a cleaning age
nt is not a good idea. Actually it is a very bad idea! Invest in a 5 gal.
pail of petroleum solvent for that purpose. Each oil company has it
=99s own name, the most common being =9CVarsol=9D from Imperial
(now Exxon I think).
Walt
From: Justin Drafts
Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2019 7:16 AM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Oil change
As a safety measure, at every oil change I remove all my oil screens, rinse
with avgas, blow dry with compressed air, visually inspect, reinstall and
safety back into place.
It's tedious but time well spent!
Justin
N280NC
On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 1:26 AM motoadve <motoadve@racsa.co.cr> wrote:
Since I dont have an oil filter, I will be doing the oil change at 25 hrs
=2E
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