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1. 04:47 AM - Re: How do I bypass the rear flap handle? (\)
2. 05:21 AM - Re: Shutters cable (\)
3. 07:02 AM - Covering Ailerons of YAK (Roger Kemp)
4. 07:25 AM - Re: Shutters cable (Roger Kemp)
5. 09:35 AM - Re: Shutters cable (Warren Hill)
6. 11:02 AM - Re: Covering Ailerons of YAK (Walter Lannon)
7. 04:40 PM - Any Experienced CJ-6 Mechanics Near St Louis? (aeroryan)
8. 05:02 PM - Re: Any Experienced CJ-6 Mechanics Near St Louis? (Terry Calloway)
9. 07:29 PM - Re: Covering Ailerons of YAK (\)
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| Subject: | Re: How do I bypass the rear flap handle? |
Very simple.=C2- Disconnect the center line going into the flap control v
alve in the rear cockpit.=C2- Screw the "B" nut on that line with a plug.
=C2- This is the air line INTO the valve.=C2- Once its plugged that val
ve is inop.=C2- You can also remove the handle witch wound have no effect
anyway.Jim "Pappy" Goolsby
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From: motoadve <motoadve@racsa.co.cr>
Sent: Thu, Mar 28, 2019 3:58 pm
Subject: Yak-List: How do I bypass the rear flap handle?
There is a constant leak I can hear from it.
We serviced and cleaned at annual and still there.
Since the rear seat will only be used by passengers and not an instructor,
I prefer to by pass it.
How do I do that?
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| Subject: | Re: Shutters cable |
NOW THAT I DIDN'T KNOW.=C2- 24 years I've owned my CJ and I still learn s
omething new from you guys!=C2- Thanks Walt!Jim "Pappy" Goolsby
PS I've sold my girl. :-(
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From: Walter Lannon <wlannon@shaw.ca>
Sent: Thu, Mar 28, 2019 11:46 pm
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Shutters cable
Just to complicate matters further the CJ cooling (warming?) control is onb
oth the LH front subinst.panel and on the RH front console!=C2- =C2-Ear
lyCJ models like mine (Batch 15, 1965/66) had it on the RH console, later m
odelson the LH panel.=C2- When the change was made I do not know.=C2- A
lso shouldbe noted that the control mechanism in the handle assy. is revers
ed toaccommodate the different location so that item is notinterchangeable.
=C2-Obviouslythe cable and housing lengths will be different.=C2-Cheers
;WaltFrom:A. Dennis SavareseSent: Thursday, March 28, 2019 11:02 AMTo: yak-
list@matronics.com Subject: Re: Yak-List: Shutters cable=C2-My experience
says the CJ cable, even if it may have the same ends on it,will be too lon
g because the CJ cooling louver control is on the left side ofthe instrumen
t panel.=C2- Whereas the Yak 52's control lever is on the rightfront cons
ole.=C2- The total length of the Yak 52 cable is going to be muchshorter.
Dennis
=C2-On Thursday, March 28, 2019, 12:37:27 PM EDT, doug sapp<dougsappllc@g
mail.com> wrote: =C2-=C2-Measure the OD of the tube and the overall len
gth and give me acall=C2- 509-826-4610=C2-Doug=C2-On Thu, Mar 28, 201
9 at7:24 AM Pedro Cerveira Pinto <cerveirapinto@gmail.com> wrote:
Looking for yak 52 =C2- A quinta, 28/03/2019, 13:57, doug sapp <dougsap
pllc@gmail.com> escreveu:
Are you looking for shutter cable for CJ or Yak?=C2- If CJ I have them i
n stock, if for Yak may be the same, I do not know for sure. =C2- Doug
=C2- On Thu, Mar 28, 2019 at 4:49 AM Pedro Cerveira Pinto <cerveirapinto
@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi there
Does anyone know if the cable that opens and close the shutters of the eng
ine can be replaced by a marine teleflex cable? Thanks
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| Subject: | Covering Ailerons of YAK |
Anybody done their on fabric on the YAK or CJ?
Doc
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| Subject: | Re: Shutters cable |
Bugger is right. I had to use a grinder to thin the copper tubing to paper t
hin. I then used a chisel that I ground the tip down to sharp edge. The ligh
tly skived the chisel along the thin wall splitting the cable. Usely the cab
le is gummed up along its shaft in the curve of the cable housing from oil a
nd dirt.
Doc
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> On Mar 28, 2019, at 1:18 PM, doug sapp <dougsappllc@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Dennis,
> Good to know. No Yaks nearby for me to check.
> I have in the past fabricated a new outer sheath out of copper tubing. As
I'm sure you know 99% of the time there is nothing wrong with the inner cab
le, the issue is that the outer sheath is kinked/dented and is binding on th
e inner cable or the threaded rod ends which are swaged onto both ends of th
e cable. Bugger is getting the old sheath off the cable without screwing it
up.
>
> Doug
>
>> On Thu, Mar 28, 2019 at 11:07 AM A. Dennis Savarese <dsavarese0812@bellso
uth.net> wrote:
>> My experience says the CJ cable, even if it may have the same ends on it,
will be too long because the CJ cooling louver control is on the left side o
f the instrument panel. Whereas the Yak 52's control lever is on the right f
ront console. The total length of the Yak 52 cable is going to be much shor
ter.
>> Dennis
>>
>> On Thursday, March 28, 2019, 12:37:27 PM EDT, doug sapp <dougsappllc@gmai
l.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Measure the OD of the tube and the overall length and give me a call 509
-826-4610
>>
>> Doug
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 28, 2019 at 7:24 AM Pedro Cerveira Pinto <cerveirapinto@gmail
.com> wrote:
>> Looking for yak 52
>>
>> A quinta, 28/03/2019, 13:57, doug sapp <dougsappllc@gmail.com> escreveu:
>> Are you looking for shutter cable for CJ or Yak? If CJ I have them in st
ock, if for Yak may be the same, I do not know for sure.
>>
>> Doug
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 28, 2019 at 4:49 AM Pedro Cerveira Pinto <cerveirapinto@gmail
.com> wrote:
>> Hi there
>> Does anyone know if the cable that opens and close the shutters of the en
gine can be replaced by a marine teleflex cable?
>> Thanks
>>
>> --
>> Pedro Cerveira Pinto
>>
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| Subject: | Re: Shutters cable |
As an alternative, you can have a speedometer repair shop custom make
cables for you. This is what I did for the M-14P prop governor cable and
the gill shutters cable. Works better than the original control cables
on the CJ. Unfortunately, not every city has a shop that offers this
type of service. Something additional to consider.
Warren Hill
N464TW
Mesa, AZ
> On Mar 29, 2019, at 7:00 AM, Roger Kemp <f16viperdoc@me.com> wrote:
>
> Bugger is right. I had to use a grinder to thin the copper tubing to
paper thin. I then used a chisel that I ground the tip down to sharp
edge. The lightly skived the chisel along the thin wall splitting the
cable. Usely the cable is gummed up along its shaft in the curve of the
cable housing from oil and dirt.
> Doc
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Mar 28, 2019, at 1:18 PM, doug sapp <dougsappllc@gmail.com
<mailto:dougsappllc@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>> Dennis,
>> Good to know. No Yaks nearby for me to check.
>> I have in the past fabricated a new outer sheath out of copper
tubing. As I'm sure you know 99% of the time there is nothing wrong
with the inner cable, the issue is that the outer sheath is
kinked/dented and is binding on the inner cable or the threaded rod ends
which are swaged onto both ends of the cable. Bugger is getting the old
sheath off the cable without screwing it up.
>>
>> Doug
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 28, 2019 at 11:07 AM A. Dennis Savarese
<dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net <mailto:dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net>>
wrote:
>> My experience says the CJ cable, even if it may have the same ends on
it, will be too long because the CJ cooling louver control is on the
left side of the instrument panel. Whereas the Yak 52's control lever
is on the right front console. The total length of the Yak 52 cable is
going to be much shorter.
>> Dennis
>>
>> On Thursday, March 28, 2019, 12:37:27 PM EDT, doug sapp
<dougsappllc@gmail.com <mailto:dougsappllc@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Measure the OD of the tube and the overall length and give me a call
509-826-4610
>>
>> Doug
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 28, 2019 at 7:24 AM Pedro Cerveira Pinto
<cerveirapinto@gmail.com <mailto:cerveirapinto@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> Looking for yak 52
>>
>> A quinta, 28/03/2019, 13:57, doug sapp <dougsappllc@gmail.com
<mailto:dougsappllc@gmail.com>> escreveu:
>> Are you looking for shutter cable for CJ or Yak? If CJ I have them
in stock, if for Yak may be the same, I do not know for sure.
>>
>> Doug
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 28, 2019 at 4:49 AM Pedro Cerveira Pinto
<cerveirapinto@gmail.com <mailto:cerveirapinto@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> Hi there
>> Does anyone know if the cable that opens and close the shutters of
the engine can be replaced by a marine teleflex cable?
>> Thanks
>>
>> --
>> Pedro Cerveira Pinto
>>
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| Subject: | Re: Covering Ailerons of YAK |
Do yourself a huge favor Doc. Hire a pro.
Cheers;
Walt
-----Original Message-----
From: Roger Kemp
Sent: Friday, March 29, 2019 7:02 AM
Subject: Yak-List: Covering Ailerons of YAK
Anybody done their on fabric on the YAK or CJ?
Doc
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| Subject: | Any Experienced CJ-6 Mechanics Near St Louis? |
Looking for an experienced CJ-6 mechanic in the St Louis area. Annual is due next
month. Any recommendations greatly appreciated.
Thank you for your help.
Ryan
CJ-6A
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| Subject: | Re: Any Experienced CJ-6 Mechanics Near St Louis? |
Avcraft in Columbus NE. They do an outstanding job and specialize in RedStar aircraft.
Good Luck.
> On Mar 29, 2019, at 6:39 PM, aeroryan <aeroryan@icloud.com> wrote:
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> Looking for an experienced CJ-6 mechanic in the St Louis area. Annual is due
next month. Any recommendations greatly appreciated.
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| Subject: | Re: Covering Ailerons of YAK |
I did.=C2- Its been many years ago.=C2- Its pretty simple.=C2- Simply
follow the instruction of the system (I used Stits) that you choose..=C2
- The EAA has a good instruction book that gives the general practices an
d techniques.=C2- You're a doc so stitching up fabric is sort of like sti
tching up skin.=C2- ;-)
I've done flight controls for a TBM,=C2- two Champs (the whole airplane)
and other stuff.=C2- You can get all the materials and tools from Aircraf
t Spruce.=C2- You don't have to worry about the old process using cotton,
nitrate and buttrate dopes anymore.=C2- The buzz they gave wasn't worth
the terrible hangover the next morning.=C2- Really bad.=C2- But still s
tay well ventilated.
Jim "Pappy" Goolsby
-----Original Message-----
From: Walter Lannon <wlannon@shaw.ca>
Sent: Fri, Mar 29, 2019 2:03 pm
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Covering Ailerons of YAK
Do yourself a huge favor Doc.=C2- Hire a pro.
Cheers;
Walt
-----Original Message-----
From: Roger Kemp
Sent: Friday, March 29, 2019 7:02 AM
Subject: Yak-List: Covering Ailerons of YAK
Anybody done their on fabric on the YAK or CJ?
Doc
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