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1. 09:14 AM - Re: [Non-DoD Source] G meter, when do you use it? (Bitterlich, Mark G CIV USMC MAG 14 (US))
2. 11:02 AM - Re: [Non-DoD Source] G meter, when do you use it? (Walter Lannon)
3. 11:23 AM - Re: [Non-DoD Source] G meter, when do you use it? (Terry Calloway)
4. 11:50 AM - Re: [Non-DoD Source] G meter, when do you use it? (Bitterlich, Mark G CIV USMC MAG 14 (US))
5. 04:25 PM - Jim Kimball air start system for sale (David Stroud)
6. 04:53 PM - Re: Jim Kimball air start system for sale (Cslamuseum)
7. 09:32 PM - Re: [Non-DoD Source] G meter, when do you use it? (motoadve)
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| Subject: | G meter, when do you use it? |
If I understand the question correctly, usually when learning to perform a constant
G maneuver. Honestly not sure what you meant by "take the most out of your
G meter?"
Mark
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When and how do you take the most out of your G meter?
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| Subject: | Re: G meter, when do you use it? |
Perhaps the answer to that question may be: -- In comparing your "G" meter
reading after completion of a maneuver with a ground observer's remarks (or
video) and your own impressions of the maneuver's quality.
Walt
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From: Bitterlich, Mark G CIV USMC MAG 14 (US)
Sent: Friday, April 12, 2019 9:13 AM
Subject: RE: [Non-DoD Source] Yak-List: G meter, when do you use it?
<mark.bitterlich@navy.mil>
If I understand the question correctly, usually when learning to perform a
constant G maneuver. Honestly not sure what you meant by "take the most out
of your G meter?"
Mark
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When and how do you take the most out of your G meter?
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| Subject: | Re: G meter, when do you use it? |
I use and teach with the G-Meter to maintain consistent characteristics of aerobatic
maneuvers. When you've got a consistent pull in the same locations you are
more likely to achieve the same results. Think of the G-Meter as your calibration
device for building beautiful aerobatic maneuvers.
Or to answer your question take the most out of your G meter? Never exceed greater
than 75% of the meters rated capacity for longer that 18 minutes in one pull.
:)
> On Apr 12, 2019, at 1:02 PM, Walter Lannon <wlannon@shaw.ca> wrote:
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> Perhaps the answer to that question may be: -- In comparing your "G" meter reading
after completion of a maneuver with a ground observer's remarks (or video)
and your own impressions of the maneuver's quality.
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> Walt
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> If I understand the question correctly, usually when learning to perform a constant
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> Mark
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| Subject: | G meter, when do you use it? |
Possibly (or probably) so Walt. Having taught some basic aerobatics, the new student
when being told to "pull 4 G's during the entry to this loop" (per se)
will pull back on the stick until seeing 4 G's on the meter and then stop and
freeze the stick right there. Of course as the aircraft slows, he or she is no
longer pulling 4 G's.
When explained that the pilot has to continually pull back on the stick in order
to maintain a certain amount of G as the aircraft slows, the G meter becomes
most valuable. The student can focus on that, and coordinate his pull with that
G meter maintaining a steady number. This develops muscle memory and after
a certain amount of practice, the pilot can do this with only a quick glance
at the G meter.
As you mentioned, in the end knowing how to pull and maintain G is critical to
performing a symmetrical figure, as simple as a perfectly round loop that goes
not look like an egg! Some really talented pilots can feel the G load darn close
to perfectly and never needs to look at the G meter.
That being said, I still look at the G meter.
Mark
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Sent: Friday, April 12, 2019 2:02 PM
Subject: Re: [Non-DoD Source] Yak-List: G meter, when do you use it?
Perhaps the answer to that question may be: -- In comparing your "G" meter
reading after completion of a maneuver with a ground observer's remarks (or
video) and your own impressions of the maneuver's quality.
Walt
-----Original Message-----
From: Bitterlich, Mark G CIV USMC MAG 14 (US)
Sent: Friday, April 12, 2019 9:13 AM
Subject: RE: [Non-DoD Source] Yak-List: G meter, when do you use it?
<mark.bitterlich@navy.mil>
If I understand the question correctly, usually when learning to perform a
constant G maneuver. Honestly not sure what you meant by "take the most out
of your G meter?"
Mark
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[motoadve@racsa.co.cr]
Sent: Friday, April 12, 2019 12:17 AM
Subject: [Non-DoD Source] Yak-List: G meter, when do you use it?
When and how do you take the most out of your G meter?
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| Subject: | Jim Kimball air start system for sale |
24 volt system, never installed. Project abandoned, engine and prop
went overseas.
This unit is new. The Kimball website lists this item for $2,450 and
mine
is complete less the mounting plate.
Pictures available dwstroud@xplornet.com will ship worldwide at
cost.
Offers invited.
Thanks, Dave Stroud
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| Subject: | Re: Jim Kimball air start system for sale |
I have some problem with clutch. Can you sell me a tool to remove springs?
I need to look at plates
Rob
On April 12, 2019 18:30:29 "David Stroud" <dwstroud@xplornet.com> wrote:
> 24 volt system, never installed. Project abandoned, engine and prop
> went overseas.
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> This unit is new. The Kimball website lists this item for $2,450 and mine
> is complete less the mounting plate.
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> Pictures available dwstroud@xplornet.com will ship worldwide at cost.
> Offers invited.
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> Thanks, Dave Stroud
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| Subject: | Re: [Non-DoD Source] G meter, when do you use it? |
Thanks, this is the info I was looking for.
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| Subject: | Re: G meter, when do you use it? |
I was taught to fly acro by the world's first US woman champion Mary T Gaff
eny.=C2- You do not pull constant G round in a loop.=C2- You may start
at pulling 4 gs but as the airplane climbs and gravity and drag from increa
sed lift they starts to slow the airplane down.=C2- Continued pulling a c
onstant G load the loop will not be symmetrical because the radius of the t
urn will tighten.=C2- Actually after the nose goes passed the 90 vertical
the back pressure on the stick is release somewhat so the aircraft 'fly' o
ver the top of the loop with maybe a 1 g load.=C2- The stick pressure is
then increased - causing the G load to build again as the radius of the tur
n can be maintained.=C2- Holding a constant G load cause the loop to be o
blong - not round.and you night not hit the bottom of the loop at the same
altitude you started.
I spent a number of hours being Mary's ground safety pilot as she perfected
different maneuvers.=C2- Every airplane is different and in order to get
a perfect symmetrical maneuver the speed. G pull and stick pressure and po
sition would be different with each aircraft.=C2- A lot of times you can
only see the symmetricalness of a loop from the ground which is why you nee
d someone on the ground to tell you when you do it right.
I do my loops in the CJ.=C2- I put the M14p at 2400 and 30" mp.=C2- I u
sually get about 135 140 kts on the level.=C2- I pull to about 3 may 3.5
Gs initially.=C2- About 25 degrees passed the vertical I start releasing
the back pressure on the stick.=C2- Over the top I'm about 1 G - sometime
a little less.but never negative.=C2- When nose some down about the 45 I
start really pulling on the stick and rounding out I'm back to about 3.5 G
s at the bottom and on altitude.=C2- For me that seem to work most of the
time.=C2- Kind of gratifying when you hit your own prop wash at the bott
om and I've been told by ground guys it looks round.
Jim "Pappy" Goolsby
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From: Bitterlich, Mark G CIV USMC MAG 14 (US) <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil>
Sent: Fri, Apr 12, 2019 2:51 pm
Subject: RE: [Non-DoD Source] Yak-List: G meter, when do you use it?
mark.bitterlich@navy.mil>
Possibly (or probably) so Walt.=C2- Having taught some basic aerobatics,
the new student when being told to "pull 4 G's during the entry to this loo
p" (per se) will pull back on the stick until seeing 4 G's on the meter and
then stop and freeze the stick right there.=C2- Of course as the aircraf
t slows, he or she is no longer pulling 4 G's.
When explained that the pilot has to continually pull back on the stick in
order to maintain a certain amount of G as the aircraft slows, the G meter
becomes most valuable.=C2- The student can focus on that, and coordinate
his pull with that G meter maintaining a steady number.=C2- This develops
muscle memory and after a certain amount of practice, the pilot can do thi
s with only a quick glance at the G meter.
As you mentioned, in the end knowing how to pull and maintain G is critical
to performing a symmetrical figure, as simple as a perfectly round loop th
at goes not look like an egg!=C2- Some really talented pilots can feel th
e G load darn close to perfectly and never needs to look at the G meter.
That being said, I still look at the G meter.
Mark
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From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [owner-yak-list-server@matronics.
com] on behalf of Walter Lannon [wlannon@shaw.ca]
Sent: Friday, April 12, 2019 2:02 PM
Subject: Re: [Non-DoD Source] Yak-List: G meter, when do you use it?
Perhaps the answer to that question may be: --=C2- In comparing your "G"
meter
reading after completion of a maneuver with a ground observer's remarks (or
video) and your own impressions of the maneuver's quality.
Walt
-----Original Message-----
From: Bitterlich, Mark G CIV USMC MAG 14 (US)
Sent: Friday, April 12, 2019 9:13 AM
Subject: RE: [Non-DoD Source] Yak-List: G meter, when do you use it?
<mark.bitterlich@navy.mil>
If I understand the question correctly, usually when learning to perform a
constant G maneuver.=C2- Honestly not sure what you meant by "take the mo
st out
of your G meter?"
Mark
________________________________
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] on behalf of motoadve
[motoadve@racsa.co.cr]
Sent: Friday, April 12, 2019 12:17 AM
Subject: [Non-DoD Source] Yak-List: G meter, when do you use it?
When and how do you take the most out of your G meter?
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