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     1. 12:54 AM - Re: Re: [Acro] PROP FOR LYCOMING 540 - QUESTIONS (Richard Goode)
     2. 05:16 AM - Re: Wiring Harness (Jill Gernetzke)
 
 
 


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    Time: 12:54:05 AM PST US
    From: "Richard Goode" <richard.goode@russianaeros.com>
    Subject: RE: [Acro] PROP FOR LYCOMING 540 - QUESTIONS
    That reminds me of when Jurgis Kairis was doing a display in his Sukhoi 31 in China, then fitted with a three blade Whirlwind propeller, and one blade completely detached itself from the hub. The out of balance forces were incredible and in fact tore the gearbox and the remains of the propeller off the front of the engine, but fortunately Sukhois are very tough, and the engine remained in the aircraft. But a number of the fuselage tubes were cracked or broken; most of the instruments destroyed! Fortunately, although going fast he was at low level over a long runway and was able to get the aircraft down safely. The aircraft had to go back to Sukhoi in Moscow and be totally rebuilt! Richard RICHARD GOODE AEROBATICS Rhodds Farm, Lyonshall, Hereford, HR5 3LW, UK Tel: +44 (0)1544 340120 Fax: +44 (0)1544 340129 e-mail: richard.goode@russianaeros.com <mailto:richard.goode@russianaeros.com> <http://www.russianaeros.com> www.russianaeros.com WORLD LEADERS IN RUSSIAN SPORTING AIRCRAFT & ENGINES In partnership with Aerometal Kft, Hungary. From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of " Sent: 07 May 2019 01:02 Subject: Re: Yak-List: RE: [Acro] PROP FOR LYCOMING 540 - QUESTIONS Richard, Thinking of props. One time on a layover in London with PAA, I took the train down to Red Hill to hang out the Tiger club there. While there the guys were putting a new prop on a blue and white Beta racer. It then went up on a test flight and we watch him pass the field several times doing timing runs. Then he didn't show up and we started to worry something must have happened. I remember the guys kidding the mechanic that the prop may have come off. Sure enough a few minutes later the phone rings and the pilots has made a force landing in field some miles away. We all jumped into trucks with tools and went extradite the Beta. And yes, one blade had separated and the out of balance had broken 3 of the 4 attach point on the mount so that the only thing holding the engine in place was the one attach point and the cowling! It was a long evening and I was late getting back to my hotel but I have a great time with a bunch of great guys with funny accents - getting that Beta out of that field. I even learn to love warm beer. Jim "Pappy" Goolsby -----Original Message----- From: Richard Goode <richard.goode@russianaeros.com <mailto:richard.goode@russianaeros.com> > Sent: Mon, May 6, 2019 2:00 pm Subject: RE: Yak-List: RE: [Acro] PROP FOR LYCOMING 540 - QUESTIONS <richard.goode@russianaeros.com <mailto:richard.goode@russianaeros.com> > Yes, I do know that most Hartzell props are fully certified, and indeed good props =93 but I was only responding to the post below saying "Hartzell "claw 2.0" is only for experimental Extras", so I assumed that they were not certificated. But to slightly change the path of the discussion, I was interested that Spencer has had yet another propeller fall off a Lycoming engine. Why does this happen? In my 30 years of experience with Russian aircraft and engines, I only know of one propeller detachment, which was with Svetlana Kapanina, and that with a Russian team Sukhoi which had been flown for several years, and always at + and -12 G, and very aggressive flying! Richard RICHARD GOODE AEROBATICS Rhodds Farm, Lyonshall, Hereford, HR5 3LW, UK Tel: +44 (0)1544 340120 Fax: +44 (0)1544 340129 e-mail: richard.goode@russianaeros.com <mailto:richard.goode@russianaeros.com> www.russianaeros.com <http://www.russianaeros.com> WORLD LEADERS IN RUSSIAN SPORTING AIRCRAFT & ENGINES In partnership with Aerometal Kft, Hungary. -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com <mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com> [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com <mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com> ] On Behalf Of Walter Lannon Sent: 06 May 2019 17:24 Subject: Re: Yak-List: RE: [Acro] PROP FOR LYCOMING 540 - QUESTIONS <mailto:wlannon@shaw.ca> > Hi Richard; Hartzell propellors are also fully certificated. Walt -----Original Message----- From: Richard Goode Sent: Monday, May 06, 2019 12:37 AM Subject: Yak-List: RE: [Acro] PROP FOR LYCOMING 540 - QUESTIONS <richard.goode@russianaeros.com <mailto:richard.goode@russianaeros.com> > I can't speak for Hartzell, but a huge advantage of MT propellers is that they are all fully certified, which means that they have had to go through a tough process of certification with significant overspeed =93 I personally would not fly behind a non-certified propeller! 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    Time: 05:16:49 AM PST US
    From: "Jill Gernetzke" <jill@m-14p.com>
    Subject: RE: Wiring Harness
    Mike, Contact me offline. I believe I have 2 complete ship sets of wiring harnesses. One harness, I removed completely myself and only cut one wire during the removal- the brake disabling valve. Jill Jill Gernetzke M-14P, Inc. 4905 Flightline Drive Kingman, AZ 86401 928-681-4400 www.m-14p.com -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Yak-List Digest Server Sent: Monday, May 06, 2019 11:49 PM Subject: Yak-List Digest: 7 Msgs - 05/06/19 * ================================================= Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive ================================================= Today's complete Yak-List Digest can also be found in either of the two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version of the Yak-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor such as Notepad or with a web browser. HTML Version: http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=html&Chapter 19-05-06&Archive=Yak Text Version: http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=txt&Chapter 2019-05-06&Archive=Yak =============================================== EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive =============================================== ---------------------------------------------------------- Yak-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 05/06/19: 7 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 12:33 AM - Wiring harness (Stressmerchant) 2. 03:53 AM - Re: [Acro] PROP FOR LYCOMING 540 - QUESTIONS (Richard Goode) 3. 08:20 AM - Re: Obama Citizenship Issue Reaches Supreme Court (moosix) 4. 09:25 AM - Re: Re: [Acro] PROP FOR LYCOMING 540 - QUESTIONS (Walter Lannon) 5. 10:18 AM - Re: Obama Citizenship Issue Reaches Supreme Court (Bitterlich, Mark G CIV USMC MAG 14 (US)) 6. 10:59 AM - Re: Re: [Acro] PROP FOR LYCOMING 540 - QUESTIONS (Richard Goode) 7. 05:02 PM - Re: Re: [Acro] PROP FOR LYCOMING 540 - QUESTIONS (\) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 12:33:33 AM PST US Subject: Yak-List: Wiring harness From: "Stressmerchant" <mike_beresford@yahoo.co.uk> My Yak-52 (1980 model) is currently in for annual inspection, and the shop doing the work has informed me that the wiring is so bad that the aircraft is "unsafe and dangerous". They are insisting on rewiring the entire aircraft, which is no doubt going to cost me a small fortune. Aside from the question of whether or not their assessment is correct, is it possible to obtain new wiring harnesses for the Yak-52? Or is there a set of drawings that a wiring shop could use to make up the harnesses. I do have the wiring diagrams that are available through the web, but the drawings don't give much detail on the wiring types, lengths, connectors, and so on. Any ideas? Thanks Mike Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=489099#489099 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 03:53:21 AM PST US From: "Richard Goode" <richard.goode@russianaeros.com> Subject: Yak-List: RE: [Acro] PROP FOR LYCOMING 540 - QUESTIONS I can't speak for Hartzell, but a huge advantage of MT propellers is that they are all fully certified, which means that they have had to go through a tough process of certification with significant overspeed I personally would not fly behind a non-certified propeller! Richard RICHARD GOODE AEROBATICS Rhodds Farm, Lyonshall, Hereford, HR5 3LW, UK Tel: +44 (0)1544 340120 Fax: +44 (0)1544 340129 e-mail: richard.goode@russianaeros.com www.russianaeros.com WORLD LEADERS IN RUSSIAN SPORTING AIRCRAFT & ENGINES In partnership with Aerometal Kft, Hungary. -----Original Message----- From: aerobatics@googlegroups.com [mailto:aerobatics@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mike Neuman Sent: 05 May 2019 22:30 Subject: Re: [Acro] PROP FOR LYCOMING 540 - QUESTIONS Just a quick note, Hartzell's "Claw 2.0" is for experimental Extras only, unlike the MTs. http://hartzellprop.com/hartzell-introduces-advanced-composite-aerobatic-pro peller-for-extra-300-330-applications/ ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 08:20:52 AM PST US Subject: Yak-List: Re: Obama Citizenship Issue Reaches Supreme Court From: "moosix" <gecudet@mail-list.top> Hi, I know that you can get a green card through https://www.immigrationlawofmt.com/green-card-process/ or similar services. But I also heard that the easiest way to get a green card is to participate in the lottery, which the US government holds every year. Participation in the lottery is free. Anyone can fill in the application form and apply for participation. How realistic is that? Has anyone ever participated in such a lottery? Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=489102#489102 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 09:25:27 AM PST US From: "Walter Lannon" <wlannon@shaw.ca> Subject: Re: Yak-List: RE: [Acro] PROP FOR LYCOMING 540 - QUESTIONS Hi Richard; Hartzell propellors are also fully certificated. Walt -----Original Message----- From: Richard Goode Sent: Monday, May 06, 2019 12:37 AM Subject: Yak-List: RE: [Acro] PROP FOR LYCOMING 540 - QUESTIONS <richard.goode@russianaeros.com> I can't speak for Hartzell, but a huge advantage of MT propellers is that they are all fully certified, which means that they have had to go through a tough process of certification with significant overspeed I personally would not fly behind a non-certified propeller! Richard RICHARD GOODE AEROBATICS Rhodds Farm, Lyonshall, Hereford, HR5 3LW, UK Tel: +44 (0)1544 340120 Fax: +44 (0)1544 340129 e-mail: richard.goode@russianaeros.com www.russianaeros.com WORLD LEADERS IN RUSSIAN SPORTING AIRCRAFT & ENGINES In partnership with Aerometal Kft, Hungary. -----Original Message----- From: aerobatics@googlegroups.com [mailto:aerobatics@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mike Neuman Sent: 05 May 2019 22:30 Subject: Re: [Acro] PROP FOR LYCOMING 540 - QUESTIONS Just a quick note, Hartzell's "Claw 2.0" is for experimental Extras only, unlike the MTs. http://hartzellprop.com/hartzell-introduces-advanced-composite-aerobatic-pro peller-for-extra-300-330-applications/ --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 10:18:16 AM PST US From: "Bitterlich, Mark G CIV USMC MAG 14 (US)" <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil> Subject: Yak-List: Re: Obama Citizenship Issue Reaches Supreme Court Just FYI, I believe you might have sent this to the wrong list. Mark -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com <owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com> On Behalf Of moosix Sent: Monday, May 6, 2019 11:20 AM Subject: [Non-DoD Source] Yak-List: Re: Obama Citizenship Issue Reaches Supreme Court Hi, I know that you can get a green card through https://www.immigrationlawofmt.com/green-card-process/ or similar services. But I also heard that the easiest way to get a green card is to participate in the lottery, which the US government holds every year. Participation in the lottery is free. Anyone can fill in the application form and apply for participation. How realistic is that? Has anyone ever participated in such a lottery? Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=489102#489102 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 10:59:45 AM PST US From: "Richard Goode" <richard.goode@russianaeros.com> Subject: RE: Yak-List: RE: [Acro] PROP FOR LYCOMING 540 - QUESTIONS Yes, I do know that most Hartzell props are fully certified, and indeed good props but I was only responding to the post below saying "Hartzell "claw 2.0" is only for experimental Extras", so I assumed that they were not certificated. But to slightly change the path of the discussion, I was interested that Spencer has had yet another propeller fall off a Lycoming engine. Why does this happen? In my 30 years of experience with Russian aircraft and engines, I only know of one propeller detachment, which was with Svetlana Kapanina, and that with a Russian team Sukhoi which had been flown for several years, and always at + and -12 G, and very aggressive flying! Richard RICHARD GOODE AEROBATICS Rhodds Farm, Lyonshall, Hereford, HR5 3LW, UK Tel: +44 (0)1544 340120 Fax: +44 (0)1544 340129 e-mail: richard.goode@russianaeros.com www.russianaeros.com WORLD LEADERS IN RUSSIAN SPORTING AIRCRAFT & ENGINES In partnership with Aerometal Kft, Hungary. -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Walter Lannon Sent: 06 May 2019 17:24 Subject: Re: Yak-List: RE: [Acro] PROP FOR LYCOMING 540 - QUESTIONS Hi Richard; Hartzell propellors are also fully certificated. Walt -----Original Message----- From: Richard Goode Sent: Monday, May 06, 2019 12:37 AM Subject: Yak-List: RE: [Acro] PROP FOR LYCOMING 540 - QUESTIONS <richard.goode@russianaeros.com> I can't speak for Hartzell, but a huge advantage of MT propellers is that they are all fully certified, which means that they have had to go through a tough process of certification with significant overspeed I personally would not fly behind a non-certified propeller! Richard RICHARD GOODE AEROBATICS Rhodds Farm, Lyonshall, Hereford, HR5 3LW, UK Tel: +44 (0)1544 340120 Fax: +44 (0)1544 340129 e-mail: richard.goode@russianaeros.com www.russianaeros.com WORLD LEADERS IN RUSSIAN SPORTING AIRCRAFT & ENGINES In partnership with Aerometal Kft, Hungary. -----Original Message----- From: aerobatics@googlegroups.com [mailto:aerobatics@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mike Neuman Sent: 05 May 2019 22:30 Subject: Re: [Acro] PROP FOR LYCOMING 540 - QUESTIONS Just a quick note, Hartzell's "Claw 2.0" is for experimental Extras only, unlike the MTs. http://hartzellprop.com/hartzell-introduces-advanced-composite-aerobatic-pro peller-for-extra-300-330-applications/ --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 05:02:30 PM PST US From: "\"" <cjpilot710@aol.com> Subject: Re: Yak-List: RE: [Acro] PROP FOR LYCOMING 540 - QUESTIONS Richard,Thinking of props.=C2- One time on a layover in London with PAA, I took the train down to Red Hill to hang out the Tiger club there. While t here the guys were putting a new prop on a blue and white Beta racer.=C2- It then went up on a test flight and we watch him pass the field several t imes doing timing runs.=C2- Then he didn't show up and we started to worr y something must have happened.=C2- I remember the guys kidding the mecha nic that the prop may have come off.=C2- =C2-Sure enough a few minutes later the phone rings and the pilots has made a force landing in field some miles away.=C2- We all jumped into trucks with tools and went extradite the Beta.=C2- And yes, one blade had separated and the out of balance had broken 3 of the 4 attach point on the mount so that the only thing holding the engine in place was the one attach point and the cowling!=C2- It was a long evening and I was late getting back to my hotel but I have a great time with a bunch of great guys with funny accents - getting that Beta out of that field.=C2- I even learn to love warm beer. Jim "Pappy" Goolsby -----Original Message----- From: Richard Goode <richard.goode@russianaeros.com> Sent: Mon, May 6, 2019 2:00 pm Subject: RE: Yak-List: RE: [Acro] PROP FOR LYCOMING 540 - QUESTIONS .com> Yes, I do know that most Hartzell props are fully certified, and indeed goo d props =93 but I was only responding to the post below saying "Hartz ell "claw 2.0" is only for experimental Extras", so I assumed that they wer e not certificated. But to slightly change the path of the discussion, I was interested that Sp encer has had yet another propeller fall off a Lycoming engine. Why does th is happen? In my 30 years of experience with Russian aircraft and engines, I only know of one propeller detachment, which was with Svetlana Kapanina, and that with a Russian team Sukhoi which had been flown for several years, and always at + and -12 G, and very aggressive flying! Richard RICHARD GOODE AEROBATICS Rhodds Farm, Lyonshall, Hereford, HR5 3LW, UK Tel:=C2- +44 (0)1544 340120=C2- Fax:=C2- +44 (0)1544 340129 e-mail: richard.goode@russianaeros.com www.russianaeros.com WORLD LEADERS IN RUSSIAN SPORTING AIRCRAFT & ENGINES In partnership with Aerometal Kft, Hungary. -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@mat ronics.com] On Behalf Of Walter Lannon Sent: 06 May 2019 17:24 Subject: Re: Yak-List: RE: [Acro] PROP FOR LYCOMING 540 - QUESTIONS Hi Richard; Hartzell propellors are also fully certificated. Walt -----Original Message----- From: Richard Goode Sent: Monday, May 06, 2019 12:37 AM Subject: Yak-List: RE: [Acro] PROP FOR LYCOMING 540 - QUESTIONS <richard.goode@russianaeros.com> I can't speak for Hartzell, but a huge advantage of MT propellers is that t hey are all fully certified, which means that they have had to go through a tough process of certification with significant overspeed =93 I pers onally would not fly behind a non-certified propeller! Richard RICHARD GOODE AEROBATICS Rhodds Farm, Lyonshall, Hereford, HR5 3LW, UK Tel:=C2- +44 (0)1544 340120=C2- Fax:=C2- +44 (0)1544 340129 e-mail: richard.goode@russianaeros.com www.russianaeros.com WORLD LEADERS IN RUSSIAN SPORTING AIRCRAFT & ENGINES In partnership with Ae rometal Kft, Hungary. -----Original Message----- From: aerobatics@googlegroups.com [mailto:aerobatics@googlegroups.com] On B ehalf Of Mike Neuman Sent: 05 May 2019 22:30 Subject: Re: [Acro] PROP FOR LYCOMING 540 - QUESTIONS Just a quick note, Hartzell's "Claw 2.0" is for experimental Extras only, u nlike the MTs. http://hartzellprop.com/hartzell-introduces-advanced-composite-aerobatic-pr opeller-for-extra-300-330-applications/ --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus S - WIKI - - =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- -Matt Dralle, List Admin.




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