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Tue 05/14/19


Total Messages Posted: 7



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 02:45 AM - Re: Electrical question (Warren Hill)
     2. 05:27 AM - Re: Electrical question (Justin Drafts)
     3. 08:12 AM - Re: Did a stall, and engine almost quit. (Harv)
     4. 08:30 AM - Re: Re: Did a stall, and engine almost quit. (Richard Goode)
     5. 10:49 AM - Re: Nose leg - NANCHANG - Shimmy issue (stephen.hayne)
     6. 10:58 AM - Re: Electrical question (doug sapp)
     7. 11:09 AM - Re: Re: Did a stall, and engine almost quit. (Anthony Savarese)
 
 
 


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    Time: 02:45:30 AM PST US
    From: Warren Hill <k7wx@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Re: Electrical question
    Gill, The unused switches can certainly be used for other applications. I have one assigned the task of turning off and on an electric boost pump and another is used for my strobes. I believe that these switches also have a built-in circuit breaker. Was told that this is approximately 20 amps, but have not confirmed this. It would be prudent to add an appropriate circuit breaker for each application that the switch controls. Warren Hill N464TW Mesa, AZ > On May 13, 2019, at 10:17 PM, glipaz <glipaz@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > I have an electrical question and would appreciate your advice. > I have a Nanchang with 4 unused switches on the standard lower/horizontal switch panel. On the left vertical side panel, I have three other switches including a switch for the alternator, a switch for the landing light and a switch for nav and strobe lights. Is there any reason why these can't be rewired to use the unused switches below? For example, can the alternator be wired to the old generator switch? Can the light switches be rewired to use the other remaining unused switches? I'm wondering if the amperage rating is wrong and that is why they are on a separate panel. > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=489208#489208 > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 05:27:58 AM PST US
    From: Justin Drafts <draftsjust417@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Electrical question
    One very simple suggestion I would throw in from my past frustrations/experiences, having refurbed much of my CJ6's wiring: label label label! It's very helpful to add small identifying labels to each wire and wire bundle for future reference, especially if it deviates from the standard PLAAF wire diagrams. Future mechanics and avionics techs will surely thank you! Justin N280NC Seattle WA On Tue, May 14, 2019 at 2:19 PM Warren Hill <k7wx@earthlink.net> wrote: > > Gill, > > The unused switches can certainly be used for other applications. I have > one assigned the task of turning off and on an electric boost pump and > another is used for my strobes. I believe that these switches also have a > built-in circuit breaker. Was told that this is approximately 20 amps, but > have not confirmed this. It would be prudent to add an appropriate circuit > breaker for each application that the switch controls. > > Warren Hill > N464TW > Mesa, AZ > > > > On May 13, 2019, at 10:17 PM, glipaz <glipaz@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > I have an electrical question and would appreciate your advice. > > I have a Nanchang with 4 unused switches on the standard > lower/horizontal switch panel. On the left vertical side panel, I have > three other switches including a switch for the alternator, a switch for > the landing light and a switch for nav and strobe lights. Is there any > reason why these can't be rewired to use the unused switches below? For > example, can the alternator be wired to the old generator switch? Can the > light switches be rewired to use the other remaining unused switches? I'm > wondering if the amperage rating is wrong and that is why they are on a > separate panel. > > > > > > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=489208#489208 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 08:12:02 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Did a stall, and engine almost quit.
    From: "Harv" <martin.harvey@kbr.com>
    I had similar issues with my CJ, happened after about 30mins flight time and adding power smoothed it out. Problem became worse during subsequent flights and it turned out to be failing mag coils. I couldnt repeat the issue on the ground even after prolonged warmup and ground running. How long into your flight before this occurred? I removed the old mag coils, had them both rewound and it now runs stronger than ever. Just my thoughts. Maybe do a few more over airfield flights for plus 30 mins and see if it happens again. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=489220#489220


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    Time: 08:30:44 AM PST US
    From: "Richard Goode" <richard.goode@russianaeros.com>
    Subject: Re: Did a stall, and engine almost quit.
    That is a classic coil problem which will only manifest itself when the engine is hot and the heat has totally penetrated the magneto and, more specifically the coil. It is very difficult to get the magneto sufficiently hot to have this partial failure on the ground. And the only solution is to change the coil! RICHARD GOODE AEROBATICS Rhodds Farm, Lyonshall, Hereford, HR5 3LW, UK Tel: +44 (0)1544 340120 Fax: +44 (0)1544 340129 e-mail: richard.goode@russianaeros.com www.russianaeros.com WORLD LEADERS IN RUSSIAN SPORTING AIRCRAFT & ENGINES In partnership with Aerometal Kft, Hungary. -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Harv Sent: 14 May 2019 16:12 Subject: Yak-List: Re: Did a stall, and engine almost quit. I had similar issues with my CJ, happened after about 30mins flight time and adding power smoothed it out. Problem became worse during subsequent flights and it turned out to be failing mag coils. I couldnt repeat the issue on the ground even after prolonged warmup and ground running. How long into your flight before this occurred? I removed the old mag coils, had them both rewound and it now runs stronger than ever. Just my thoughts. Maybe do a few more over airfield flights for plus 30 mins and see if it happens again. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=489220#489220


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    Time: 10:49:53 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Nose leg - NANCHANG - Shimmy issue
    From: "stephen.hayne" <stephen.hayne@gmail.com>
    I completely agree with Walt (out of balance tires), and have been pursuing shimmy for over a year. I still get a little "bzzzttt" when touchdown at ~70knots, so I keep the nose off until 60'ish. I've statically balanced (no joy), dynamically balanced at a motorcycle shop (much better), rebuilt the shimmy dampener complete with dunking under 5606 to remove all bubbles, rebushed torque links, rebushed strut with new seals, checked all pressures on all struts (went to max pressure on main struts to stop duckwalk when carrying, ummm, heavier instructors) and tires, dynamically balanced mains and set toe, new bearings and races. Whew. Everything feels incredibly solid. But... So, still hunting. Here's a few pics - the one with the cordless drill is a joke pic! Used a Bridgeport knee mill and CNC lathe for all work. https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1XZZezfVFTB5tDHF4xm8E7kHwu-jMVE5e?usp=sharing Stephen -------- - Dr. Stephen C. Hayne, Professor, CIS, Colorado State University 666CJA http://selfsynchronize.com/hayne/plane/cj6.asp Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=489224#489224


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    Time: 10:58:52 AM PST US
    From: doug sapp <dougsappllc@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Electrical question
    Gil / Warren, These ZKC switch breakers come in various amperage, 2, 5, 10, 20, and 40. Care must be taken to make sure the proper breaker amperage matches the equipment being installed. Doug On Tue, May 14, 2019 at 2:49 AM Warren Hill <k7wx@earthlink.net> wrote: > > Gill, > > The unused switches can certainly be used for other applications. I have > one assigned the task of turning off and on an electric boost pump and > another is used for my strobes. I believe that these switches also have a > built-in circuit breaker. Was told that this is approximately 20 amps, but > have not confirmed this. It would be prudent to add an appropriate circuit > breaker for each application that the switch controls. > > Warren Hill > N464TW > Mesa, AZ > > > > On May 13, 2019, at 10:17 PM, glipaz <glipaz@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > I have an electrical question and would appreciate your advice. > > I have a Nanchang with 4 unused switches on the standard > lower/horizontal switch panel. On the left vertical side panel, I have > three other switches including a switch for the alternator, a switch for > the landing light and a switch for nav and strobe lights. Is there any > reason why these can't be rewired to use the unused switches below? For > example, can the alternator be wired to the old generator switch? Can the > light switches be rewired to use the other remaining unused switches? I'm > wondering if the amperage rating is wrong and that is why they are on a > separate panel. > > > > > > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=489208#489208 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 11:09:05 AM PST US
    From: Anthony Savarese <dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Re: Did a stall, and engine almost quit.
    If I may ask, who rewound the coils? Thx Dennis Sent from my iPhone > On May 14, 2019, at 11:11 AM, Harv <martin.harvey@kbr.com> wrote: > > > I had similar issues with my CJ, happened after about 30mins flight time and adding power smoothed it out. Problem became worse during subsequent flights and it turned out to be failing mag coils. I couldnt repeat the issue on the ground even after prolonged warmup and ground running. > > How long into your flight before this occurred? > > > I removed the old mag coils, had them both rewound and it now runs stronger than ever. > > Just my thoughts. > > Maybe do a few more over airfield flights for plus 30 mins and see if it happens again. > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=489220#489220 > > > > > > > > >




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