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1. 04:29 AM - Re: Aw: Re: W100Plus and Camguard in the M14P (A. Dennis Savarese)
2. 04:37 AM - Re: W100Plus and Camguard in the M14P (George Coy)
3. 04:50 AM - Re: W100Plus and Camguard in the M14P (Richard Goode)
4. 07:32 AM - Re: W100Plus and Camguard in the M14P (Michael Foster)
5. 10:15 PM - Have a SPOT Locator? Read... (HawkerPilot2015)
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| Subject: | Re: W100Plus and Camguard in the M14P |
Yes.Dennis
On Thursday, May 16, 2019, 2:02:10 AM EDT, Markus Feyerabend <feyerabm@
web.de> wrote:
If you follow the instructions step by step, I am afraid that you=C2=B4ll n
ot get over this step:
- Before the first start, remove one set of plugs and turn engine on the ai
r-starter to build up oil pressure.
What=C2=B4s the reason behind the note that camguard shouldn=C2=B4t be mixe
d with Aeroshell w100 Plus? Too much anti-wear/anti-corrosion additives?
Markus
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Betreff:=C2-Re: Yak-List: W100Plus and Camguard in the M14P
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| Subject: | Re: W100Plus and Camguard in the M14P |
=46rom the aero shell manual:
RADIAL ENGINES
Radial engines utilise special parts and, depending upon the type of aircraf
t, application and climate are often subject to specific problems not seen i
n other types of piston engines.
In a radial engine each bank of cylinders has all of the cylinders in the sa
me plane and transmits power through a single master rod bearing to the cran
kshaft. This master rod bearing is subjected to high loading and absorbs the
shock and vibration from the cylinders and thus requires very good protecti
on from the lubricant. Generally radial engines have greater piston and bear
ing clearances and thus require a higher viscosity oil.
As a result of all this heavy duty stress, it is recommended that for radial
engines used in normal operation (all operations except agricultural sprayi
ng), an oil such as AeroShell
Oil W120 is used in moderate to temperate climates and AeroShell Oil W100 in
cooler climates (if breaking-in, then AeroShell Oil 120 and 100 respectivel
y). Alternatively AeroShell Oil W 15W-50 could be used in those radial engin
es for which it is approved. None of these oils contain zinc additives which
if used would quickly destroy the master rod bearing.
Agricultural operations represent a special problem for an oil used in radia
l engines. This is because of problems with high dirt and overspray ingestio
n into the oil. The best way to combat this is proper maintenance, good flyi
ng procedures and frequent oil changes.
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| Subject: | W100Plus and Camguard in the M14P |
In our standard instructions with engines that we have overhauled, we
specifically recommend Aeroshell "plus" or Camguard. However I have heard a
view that these can affect the plating on the master rod bearing but we
have seen many engines and have not noticed this problem, but of course the
use of these oils/additives is relatively recent. So, we don't have evidence
either way.
On the other hand these engines do corrode quite significantly, particularly
in a humid environment. The Russian instructions are that every engine
should be run every 14 days, and if not they should have short-term
conservation which means removing one row of plugs; spraying in preservative
oil into each cylinder; replacing the plugs with a desiccant plug; closing
the throttle and blocking the exhaust.
The problem is that many of these aircraft are not used regularly and
consistently, and I know of many aircraft, particularly in the UK where at
the end of October they are put into a sometimes damp hanger and left until
the beginning of March with nothing done to prevent corrosion, and in such
cases the use of anticorrosion oils must be of benefit.
RICHARD GOODE AEROBATICS
Rhodds Farm, Lyonshall, Hereford, HR5 3LW, UK
Tel: +44 (0)1544 340120 Fax: +44 (0)1544 340129
e-mail: richard.goode@russianaeros.com
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Subject: Yak-List: W100Plus and Camguard in the M14P
Seeking some views on the use of W100Plus oils or Camguard in the M14P. Are
there any negative aspects to its use ?
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| Subject: | Re: W100Plus and Camguard in the M14P |
I have had lengthy discussions with Shell and a well respected Warbird opera
tor regarding oil and Camguard. Let me begin with my A&P/ AI has been pushin
g Camguard for years on Lycoming engines. He and I had discussion with shell
engineer at S N F this year. He is unequivocal that the additives in Aerosh
ell 100 and 120 are similar to what is found in Camguard. Strictly on coct, C
amguard loses the argument. Going further, he stated that using Camguard doe
s not increase the benefits of the additives. In fact, it decreases the lubr
icator of the oil.
Bottom line pick an hours interval based on filtering equipment AND a maximu
m of FOUR MONTHS between changes. My mechanic is no longer as enthusiastic a
bout Camguard as he was. I=99m not using it.
Mike
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> On May 15, 2019, at 11:20 PM, Al Pickering <alpick@live.com.au> wrote:
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> > On 16 May 2019, at 11:24 am, Ttail <ttail@internode.on.net> wrote:
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> > Seeking some views on the use of W100Plus oils or Camguard in the M14P. A
re there any negative aspects to its use ?
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FAA Cautions Aircraft Owners About GPS Issue Attributable To SPOT Portable Electronic
Device.
The Aviation International News (5/14, Gilbert) reports, Aircraft operators have
notified the FAA of several instances of an intermittent loss of GPS position
information, with the interference attributable to the utilization of a SPOT
portable electronic device (PED). Due to this interference, the FAA has published
InFo For Operators 19006, which provides awareness to Part 91 aircraft owners,
operators, and pilots on the safe use of SPOT PEDs, and also reminds the
flying public of existing regulations, policy, and guidance covering the safe
use of PEDs on board aircraft. The agency cautions that this GPS interference
also affects aircraft systems that rely on GPS position data, such as ADS-B Out,
according to AIN. The FAA said, The operator or pilot-in-command shall determine
that using a SPOT PED does not interfere with the navigation and communications
systems prior to operating under IFR.
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