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Sat 05/25/19


Total Messages Posted: 5



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     1. 12:43 AM - Re: Pitot Heater: no heat, =?ISO-8859-1?Q?can=99t?= find fuse or CB (Rob Rowe)
     2. 05:51 AM - =?UTF-8?B?UmU6IFlhay1MaXN0OiBSZTogUGl0b3QgSGVhdGVyOiBubyBoZWF0LCBjYW7DouKCrOKEog==?= 	=?UTF-8?B?dCBmaW5kIGZ1c2Ugb3IgQ0I=? (Justin Drafts)
     3. 06:51 AM - =?UTF-8?B?UmU6IFlhay1MaXN0OiBSZTogWWFrLUxpc3Q6IFJlOiBQaXRvdCBIZWF0ZXI6IG5vIGhlYQ==?= 	=?UTF-8?B?dCwgY2Fuw6LigqzihKJ0IGZpbmQgZnVzZSBvciBDQg==? (doug sapp)
     4. 07:00 AM - Re: Yak-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 05/24/19 (doug sapp)
     5. 11:26 AM - =?UTF-8?B?UmU6IFlhay1MaXN0OiBSZTogWWFrLUxpc3Q6IFJlOiBZYWstTGlzdDogUmU6IFBpdG90IA==?= 	=?UTF-8?B?SGVhdGVyOiBubyBoZWF0LCBjYW7DouKCrOKEonQgZmluZCBmdXNlIG9yIENC? (Justin Drafts)
 
 
 


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    Time: 12:43:18 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Pitot Heater: no heat, =?ISO-8859-1?Q?can=99t?= find fuse
    or CB
    From: "Rob Rowe" <yak-list@robrowe.plus.com>
    The following topic link is for a -52, but may assist your fault finding. http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?t=16770072 For a -52 ... it could be the (parallel) chronometer heaters are causing the observed voltage change. Key check is if the 'pitot heat on' warning light isn't illuminating then the pitot heater is open circuit. Suggesting a heater element, or more likely a wiring connection, failure. Hope this helps. Rob R. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=489358#489358


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    Time: 05:51:41 AM PST US
    From: Justin Drafts <draftsjust417@gmail.com>
    Subject: =?UTF-8?B?UmU6IFlhay1MaXN0OiBSZTogUGl0b3QgSGVhdGVyOiBubyBoZWF0LCBjYW7DouKCrOKEog==?=
    =?UTF-8?B?dCBmaW5kIGZ1c2Ugb3IgQ0I=? Good morning, Not too long ago, I decided to look into why my own CJ6's pitot heat wasn't working at all. There's a small but very helpful access panel, out behind the pitot mast on underside of the right wing, for servicing & inspections. Turns out, someone (I strongly suspect in China?) had removed the pitot head heating element altogether, and just left the wiring loose in the pitot mast. So I just secured the wiring, and - since I only fly my CJ in day VFR - that system inop until further notice. If your wiring is disconnected and not properly capped/secured, there may be a very minor short that shows a weak electrical discharge? If I recall correctly, the pitot heat cockpit switch is the type with an inherent circuit breaker/fuse in the switch itself. Such heater elements are available, so one day after all the other gremlins are dealt with, I may re-install one. Maybe these insights help... ? Justin Drafts N280NC On Sat, May 25, 2019 at 12:19 PM Rob Rowe <yak-list@robrowe.plus.com> wrote: > > The following topic link is for a -52, but may assist your fault finding. > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?t=16770072 > > For a -52 ... it could be the (parallel) chronometer heaters are causing > the observed voltage change. > > Key check is if the 'pitot heat on' warning light isn't illuminating then > the pitot heater is open circuit. > > Suggesting a heater element, or more likely a wiring connection, failure. > > Hope this helps. > > Rob R. > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=489358#489358 > >


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    Time: 06:51:01 AM PST US
    From: doug sapp <dougsappllc@gmail.com>
    Subject: =?UTF-8?B?UmU6IFlhay1MaXN0OiBSZTogWWFrLUxpc3Q6IFJlOiBQaXRvdCBIZWF0ZXI6IG5vIGhlYQ==?=
    =?UTF-8?B?dCwgY2Fuw6LigqzihKJ0IGZpbmQgZnVzZSBvciBDQg==? Justin, The heating element is located within the first 4 inches of the pitot, I doubt anyone removed it as it is integral to the pitot. If you have a 4 inch chrome pitot on the tip of the mast/tube then you have the heated pitot complete. Rather it works or not that's a different issue. On Sat, May 25, 2019 at 5:57 AM Justin Drafts <draftsjust417@gmail.com> wrote: > Good morning, > > Not too long ago, I decided to look into why my own CJ6's pitot heat > wasn't working at all. > There's a small but very helpful access panel, out behind the pitot mast > on underside of the right wing, for servicing & inspections. > Turns out, someone (I strongly suspect in China?) had removed the pitot > head heating element altogether, and just left the wiring loose in the > pitot mast. > So I just secured the wiring, and - since I only fly my CJ in day VFR - > that system inop until further notice. > If your wiring is disconnected and not properly capped/secured, there may > be a very minor short that shows a weak electrical discharge? > > If I recall correctly, the pitot heat cockpit switch is the type with an > inherent circuit breaker/fuse in the switch itself. > Such heater elements are available, so one day after all the other > gremlins are dealt with, I may re-install one. > > Maybe these insights help... ? > > Justin Drafts > N280NC > > > On Sat, May 25, 2019 at 12:19 PM Rob Rowe <yak-list@robrowe.plus.com> > wrote: > >> >> The following topic link is for a -52, but may assist your fault finding. >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?t=16770072 >> >> For a -52 ... it could be the (parallel) chronometer heaters are causing >> the observed voltage change. >> >> Key check is if the 'pitot heat on' warning light isn't illuminating then >> the pitot heater is open circuit. >> >> Suggesting a heater element, or more likely a wiring connection, failure. >> >> Hope this helps. >> >> Rob R. >> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=489358#489358 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ========== >> List" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"> >> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List >> ========== >> FORUMS - >> eferrer" target="_blank">http://forums.matronics.com >> ========== >> WIKI - >> errer" target="_blank">http://wiki.matronics.com >> ========== >> b Site - >> -Matt Dralle, List Admin. >> rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution >> ========== >> >> >> >>


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    Time: 07:00:08 AM PST US
    From: doug sapp <dougsappllc@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Yak-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 05/24/19
    Sam, It's pretty easy to remove from the mast, disconnect the wires and test it on a 24 volt source. My guess is that someone has left it on on the ground and fried it. I do have them in stock if needed. Make sure that you have a screw driver which fits the screws perfectly if not you will trash the tiny screws which hold the pitot into the mast tube. On Sat, May 25, 2019 at 12:02 AM Yak-List Digest Server < yak-list@matronics.com> wrote: > * > > ================================================= > Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive > ================================================= > > Today's complete Yak-List Digest can also be found in either of the > two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted > in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes > and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version > of the Yak-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor > such as Notepad or with a web browser. > > HTML Version: > > > http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=html&Chapter 19-05-24&Archive=Yak > > Text Version: > > > http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=txt&Chapter 19-05-24&Archive=Yak > > > =============================================== > EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive > =============================================== > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > Yak-List Digest Archive > --- > Total Messages Posted Fri 05/24/19: 1 > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > > Today's Message Index: > ---------------------- > > 1. 09:15 PM - Pitot Heater: no heat, =?ISO-8859-1?Q?can=99t?= find > fuse or CB (Off2wildblue) > > > ________________________________ Message 1 > _____________________________________ > > > Time: 09:15:13 PM PST US > Subject: Yak-List: Pitot Heater: no heat, =?ISO-8859-1?Q?can=99t?= find > fuse or > CB > From: "Off2wildblue" <Off2wildblue@me.com> > > > CJ: > > I am not getting any heat to my pitot heater. I turn it on, on the ground > and it > doesnt warm up. I see the Volt meter go up about 1/8. So I think it should > be > warming up. I dont know where the CB or fuse is located either. Does anyone > have any ideas on trouble shooting and locating the fuse? > > Thanks! > > SAM > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=489357#489357 > >


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    Time: 11:26:43 AM PST US
    From: Justin Drafts <draftsjust417@gmail.com>
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    =?UTF-8?B?SGVhdGVyOiBubyBoZWF0LCBjYW7DouKCrOKEonQgZmluZCBmdXNlIG9yIENC? Ah, I stand corrected - thanks- Justin On Sat, May 25, 2019 at 6:26 PM doug sapp <dougsappllc@gmail.com> wrote: > Justin, > The heating element is located within the first 4 inches of the pitot, I > doubt anyone removed it as it is integral to the pitot. If you have a 4 > inch chrome pitot on the tip of the mast/tube then you have the heated > pitot complete. Rather it works or not that's a different issue. > > On Sat, May 25, 2019 at 5:57 AM Justin Drafts <draftsjust417@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Good morning, >> >> Not too long ago, I decided to look into why my own CJ6's pitot heat >> wasn't working at all. >> There's a small but very helpful access panel, out behind the pitot mast >> on underside of the right wing, for servicing & inspections. >> Turns out, someone (I strongly suspect in China?) had removed the pitot >> head heating element altogether, and just left the wiring loose in the >> pitot mast. >> So I just secured the wiring, and - since I only fly my CJ in day VFR - >> that system inop until further notice. >> If your wiring is disconnected and not properly capped/secured, there may >> be a very minor short that shows a weak electrical discharge? >> >> If I recall correctly, the pitot heat cockpit switch is the type with an >> inherent circuit breaker/fuse in the switch itself. >> Such heater elements are available, so one day after all the other >> gremlins are dealt with, I may re-install one. >> >> Maybe these insights help... ? >> >> Justin Drafts >> N280NC >> >> >> On Sat, May 25, 2019 at 12:19 PM Rob Rowe <yak-list@robrowe.plus.com> >> wrote: >> >>> >>> The following topic link is for a -52, but may assist your fault finding. >>> >>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?t=16770072 >>> >>> For a -52 ... it could be the (parallel) chronometer heaters are causing >>> the observed voltage change. >>> >>> Key check is if the 'pitot heat on' warning light isn't illuminating >>> then the pitot heater is open circuit. >>> >>> Suggesting a heater element, or more likely a wiring connection, failure. >>> >>> Hope this helps. >>> >>> Rob R. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Read this topic online here: >>> >>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=489358#489358 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ========== >>> List" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"> >>> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List >>> ========== >>> FORUMS - >>> eferrer" target="_blank">http://forums.matronics.com >>> ========== >>> WIKI - >>> errer" target="_blank">http://wiki.matronics.com >>> ========== >>> b Site - >>> -Matt Dralle, List Admin. >>> rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution >>> ========== >>> >>> >>> >>>




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