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Fri 06/21/19


Total Messages Posted: 2



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     1. 02:00 AM - Re: Performance Charts for Yak-52 (Mike Beresford)
     2. 05:44 AM - Re: Re: What is the cylinder torque value for the nuts at the base. (George Coy)
 
 
 


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    Time: 02:00:49 AM PST US
    From: Mike Beresford <mike_beresford@yahoo.co.uk>
    Subject: Re: Performance Charts for Yak-52
    I'd be interested in seeing if there is something available. I've thought of doing one myself, but my aircraft spends too much of its time in mainten ance since coming to Australia. On Friday, 21 June 2019, 04:03:12 GMT+3, HawkerPilot2015 <timsmiscaz@gm ail.com> wrote: Anyone have or know of old school "spaghetti" charts for performance for th e -52? Looking at hot and high performance. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=489752#489752 S - WIKI - - =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- -Matt Dralle, List Admin.


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    Time: 05:44:16 AM PST US
    From: "George Coy" <george.coy@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: What is the cylinder torque value for the nuts at the
    base. OI have confirmed with the factory that the tightening torque of the nuts that holds the cylinders to crankcase is 3.5 Kgf-m or 304 lbf-in. The threads have to be clean and dry. George Coy From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Cliff Coy Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2019 12:57 PM Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: What is the cylinder torque value for the nuts at the base. The torques are for clean and dry threads. Please reference the M14-P Overhaul Manual Pg.142-143. The Manual is available here: http://motorstarna.com/m-14p-overhaul-manual Overtorque of the nuts will increase the chance of the studs pulling from the crankcase leading to further leakage. Cliff On Tue, Jun 18, 2019 at 2:33 PM doug sapp <dougsappllc@gmail.com <mailto:dougsappllc@gmail.com> > wrote: Also, from Mark Pennington, this is interesting: https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?tab=rm <https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?tab=rm&zx=vl5ywvgzpugl#inbox/FMfcg xwChJkxdFPJVWFSFZcLkGTCcGrW?compose=DmwnWrRnXVSjzwCjrftdqMTFtpZNSfCdPxQ gNrBwDsFKJDZfWGgpgdvcrDhTRrHnqLgLwBlQDDDL&projector=1> &zx=vl5ywvgzpugl#inbox/FMfcgxwChJkxdFPJVWFSFZcLkGTCcGrW?compose=DmwnW rRnXVSjzwCjrftdqMTFtpZNSfCdPxQgNrBwDsFKJDZfWGgpgdvcrDhTRrHnqLgLwBlQDDDL&p rojector=1 On Tue, Jun 18, 2019 at 10:52 AM doug sapp <dougsappllc@gmail.com <mailto:dougsappllc@gmail.com> > wrote: I do believe the question was asked but maybe missed by some of us. What is "wet" torque? What exactly does this mean? If I interpret the cut n past from the net correctly then torquing the cly base studs to 304 to 330 inch pounds WET is way excessive. >From :https://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/torque-lubrication-effects-d_1693.htm l When a bolt is lubricated - less torque is required to achieve bolt axial load or tension. Reduction of torques for lubricated vs. dry bolts are indicated in the table below. Lubricant Torque Reduction (%) No lube 0 Graphite 50 - 55 White Grease 35 - 45 SAE 30 oil 35 - 45 SAE 40 oil 30 - 40 On Tue, Jun 18, 2019 at 3:56 AM A. Dennis Savarese <dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net <mailto:dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net> > wrote: Matt, A torque spec is there for a reason. The "feels about right" spec is not in the spec sheet. Over-torquing is definitely not a good thing. You may want to reconsider your torquing technique in the future. The M14 torque specs are no where near 35 ft/lbs. That is actually 25% more than the high end of the spec. The torque specs are as posted on this subject. Dennis On Tuesday, June 18, 2019, 1:57:39 AM EDT, woodja51 <mwuillemin@mac.com <mailto:mwuillemin@mac.com> > wrote: <mailto:mwuillemin@mac.com> > I bought an electronic torque wrench that beeps when you get close to and the again when at the correct torque. And used the Chinese spanner with it attached. I took my nuts up on paper gaskets ( there are aluminium ones there it seems as standard ?) to 35 =C3=A2=82=AC=CB=9C lbs which is closer to the values on the m14 I think. They should always be wet/ lubed for torque setting I believe. I might have slightly over torqued them but would rather be a little in the high side. Matt Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=489701#489701 Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, http://ww================= http://forums.matronics.com http://www.matronics.com/contr=============== ======== -- Clifford Coy Border Air Ltd. C-Parts Inc. 629 Airport Rd. Swanton, VT 05488 802-868-2822 TEL 802-868-0035 FAX (MANUAL RECEIVE) Skype: Cliff.Coy




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