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1. 01:13 AM - Yak 52 Primer issue (ZUDSJ)
2. 10:07 AM - Re: Yak 52 Primer issue (Walter Lannon)
3. 10:25 AM - Re: Yak 52 Primer issue (Walter Lannon)
4. 11:08 AM - Re: Yak 52 Primer issue (Anthony Savarese)
5. 02:31 PM - Re: Yak 52 Primer issue (mark bitterlich)
6. 04:17 PM - Re: Yak 52 Primer issue (Anthony Savarese)
7. 04:31 PM - Re: Yak 52 Primer issue (ZUDSJ)
8. 04:57 PM - Re: Re: Yak 52 Primer issue (Anthony Savarese)
9. 06:21 PM - Re: Re: Yak 52 Primer issue (Peter Scott)
10. 09:33 PM - Re: Re: Yak 52 Primer issue (Walter Lannon)
11. 09:52 PM - Re: Re: Yak 52 Primer issue (Walter Lannon)
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| Subject: | Yak 52 Primer issue |
Perplexed by the primer and hoping to get some info if possible. Does anyone have
a diagram of the Yak 52 primer?
It was quite tight and when we attempted to prime the system no pressure appeared
on the fuel pressure gauge. We loosened the friction nut to the point that
it was removed completely When we put it back it would prime the system and the
cylinder but we could not rotate it to the centred position. Even though no
fuel pressure was showing while priming, there was fuel going to the cylinders
because it flowed out when we opened the manifold valve at the bottom of the
engine. If we tighten the friction nut it does not move at all. When we loosen
the friction nut again it can rotate left and right but not go back to the centre.
Anyone had this experience?
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=490372#490372
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| Subject: | Re: Yak 52 Primer issue |
Where to begin!
The Yak 52 "primer" is a dual unit with a central OFF position. One side
when selected is a hand pump delivering fuel through the by-pass in the
engine driven fuel pump to the carb. It is an emergency pump in the event
of primary (engine driven) pump failure.
The other side is a primer delivering fuel to the top of the blower chamber
through a nozzle where (in theory) it is atomized and delivered by blower
(supercharger) rotation to the cylinders. In fact (IMHO) it mostly just
flows down the chamber walls to the #5 cylinder where (if you have your head
up your ass) it will give you a hydraulic lock.
Since I have a CJ I don't know which side is which! (Dennis?) The CJ uses
exactly the same unit however it is modified to act as a primer only on
either side. Very simple, short by-pass tube. The hand (emerg.) fuel pump
is a separate unit (wobble pump).
Presumably you have removed the pump handle and on re-installing it have
filed to align the drive for the valve control. Find a 1/2" or so wood
dowel and file a notch in one end so you can correct that.
Walt
-----Original Message-----
From: ZUDSJ
Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2019 1:13 AM
Subject: Yak-List: Yak 52 Primer issue
Perplexed by the primer and hoping to get some info if possible. Does anyone
have a diagram of the Yak 52 primer?
It was quite tight and when we attempted to prime the system no pressure
appeared on the fuel pressure gauge. We loosened the friction nut to the
point that it was removed completely When we put it back it would prime
the system and the cylinder but we could not rotate it to the centred
position. Even though no fuel pressure was showing while priming, there was
fuel going to the cylinders because it flowed out when we opened the
manifold valve at the bottom of the engine. If we tighten the friction nut
it does not move at all. When we loosen the friction nut again it can rotate
left and right but not go back to the centre. Anyone had this experience?
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=490372#490372
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| Subject: | Re: Yak 52 Primer issue |
Typo in my last - "filed" should read "failed".
Also should have noted there is no fuel pressure indication for the "prime"
operation.
Walt
-----Original Message-----
From: ZUDSJ
Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2019 1:13 AM
Subject: Yak-List: Yak 52 Primer issue
Perplexed by the primer and hoping to get some info if possible. Does anyone
have a diagram of the Yak 52 primer?
It was quite tight and when we attempted to prime the system no pressure
appeared on the fuel pressure gauge. We loosened the friction nut to the
point that it was removed completely When we put it back it would prime
the system and the cylinder but we could not rotate it to the centred
position. Even though no fuel pressure was showing while priming, there was
fuel going to the cylinders because it flowed out when we opened the
manifold valve at the bottom of the engine. If we tighten the friction nut
it does not move at all. When we loosen the friction nut again it can rotate
left and right but not go back to the centre. Anyone had this experience?
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=490372#490372
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| Subject: | Re: Yak 52 Primer issue |
Primer left is the system side. Primer right is cylinder side. Up/center is off.
Dennis
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> On Jul 18, 2019, at 12:24 PM, Walter Lannon <wlannon@shaw.ca> wrote:
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> Typo in my last - "filed" should read "failed".
>
> Also should have noted there is no fuel pressure indication for the "prime" operation.
>
> Walt
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> -----Original Message----- From: ZUDSJ
> Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2019 1:13 AM
> To: yak-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Yak-List: Yak 52 Primer issue
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>
> Perplexed by the primer and hoping to get some info if possible. Does anyone
have a diagram of the Yak 52 primer?
> It was quite tight and when we attempted to prime the system no pressure appeared
on the fuel pressure gauge. We loosened the friction nut to the point that
it was removed completely When we put it back it would prime the system and
the cylinder but we could not rotate it to the centred position. Even though no
fuel pressure was showing while priming, there was fuel going to the cylinders
because it flowed out when we opened the manifold valve at the bottom of the
engine. If we tighten the friction nut it does not move at all. When we loosen
the friction nut again it can rotate left and right but not go back to the
centre. Anyone had this experience?
>
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> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=490372#490372
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| Subject: | Re: Yak 52 Primer issue |
Very true.
Dennis
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> On Jul 18, 2019, at 4:30 PM, mark bitterlich <markbitterlich@embarqmail.co
m> wrote:
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> Unless you own a YAK-50 and then it's reversed! (Hi Dennis!)
>
> Mark
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Anthony Savarese <dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net>
> Date: 7/18/19 14:07 (GMT-05:00)
> To: yak-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Yak 52 Primer issue
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net>
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> Primer left is the system side. Primer right is cylinder side. Up/center i
s off.
> Dennis
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Jul 18, 2019, at 12:24 PM, Walter Lannon <wlannon@shaw.ca> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Typo in my last - "filed" should read "failed".
> >
> > Also should have noted there is no fuel pressure indication for the "pri
me" operation.
> >
> > Walt
> >
> > -----Original Message----- From: ZUDSJ
> > Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2019 1:13 AM
> > To: yak-list@matronics.com
> > Subject: Yak-List: Yak 52 Primer issue
> >
> >
> > Perplexed by the primer and hoping to get some info if possible. Does an
yone have a diagram of the Yak 52 primer?
> > It was quite tight and when we attempted to prime the system no pressure
appeared on the fuel pressure gauge. We loosened the friction nut to the po
int that it was removed completely=C3=A2=82=AC=C2 When we put it back i
t would prime the system and the cylinder but we could not rotate it to the c
entred position. Even though no fuel pressure was showing while priming, the
re was fuel going to the cylinders because it flowed out when we opened the m
anifold valve at the bottom of the engine. If we tighten the friction nut it
does not move at all. When we loosen the friction nut again it can rotate l
eft and right but not go back to the centre. Anyone had this experience?
> >
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> > Read this topic online here:
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> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=490372#490372
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| Subject: | Re: Yak 52 Primer issue |
Thanks guys for your feedback. My question was more around how I could get it back
to the centre as somethings stopping that. Could you give me more detail on
what I should do with the dowel Walt? I dont understand the mechanics of the
primer hence I was looking for a diagram. Thanks guys!
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| Subject: | Re: Yak 52 Primer issue |
If you removed it completel it could be upside down ou youve got the knurled ring
to loose and it wont bottom out.
Dennis
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> On Jul 18, 2019, at 6:30 PM, ZUDSJ <waferflex@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Thanks guys for your feedback. My question was more around how I could get it
back to the centre as somethings stopping that. Could you give me more detail
on what I should do with the dowel Walt? I dont understand the mechanics of the
primer hence I was looking for a diagram. Thanks guys!
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| Subject: | Re: Yak 52 Primer issue |
When my primer has resisted turning back to centre from cylinder priming,
pushing the handle in hard while turning has released it. But I note
Anthony's cautionary advice that if plunger has been replaced upside down
pushing would not help. if the knurled ring is loose, maybe also? Peter.
Peter Scott
On Fri, Jul 19, 2019 at 10:07 AM Anthony Savarese <
dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net>
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> If you removed it completel it could be upside down ou you=99ve got
the
> knurled ring to loose and it won=99t bottom out.
> Dennis
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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> > On Jul 18, 2019, at 6:30 PM, ZUDSJ <waferflex@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Thanks guys for your feedback. My question was more around how I could
> get it back to the centre as somethings stopping that. Could you give me
> more detail on what I should do with the dowel Walt? I don=99t unde
rstand the
> mechanics of the primer hence I was looking for a diagram. Thanks guys!
> >
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| Subject: | Re: Yak 52 Primer issue |
Hi;
With the plunger handle in the center position remove the complete plunger
assy. Note the position of the slot at the bottom of the plunger relative
to the position of the handle. Note the position of the mating tang at the
bottom of the primer body. If not in alignment with the plunger slot use
the slotted dowel to press downwards and rotate the tang to line up with the
plunger slot.
Re-install the plunger being careful not to damage the seal. You should be
able to feel slot/tang engagement with slight rotation of the handle. Once
positively engaged ensure the knurled nut is fully down. Press downwards on
the handle and check for proper rotation in each direction.
There is the possibility that the slot/tang engagement is perfectly OK but
does not operate properly due to the knurled nut being too loose. Check
that out first.
Walt
-----Original Message-----
From: ZUDSJ
Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2019 4:30 PM
Subject: Yak-List: Re: Yak 52 Primer issue
Thanks guys for your feedback. My question was more around how I could get
it back to the centre as somethings stopping that. Could you give me more
detail on what I should do with the dowel Walt? I dont understand the
mechanics of the primer hence I was looking for a diagram. Thanks guys!
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=490409#490409
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| Subject: | Re: Yak 52 Primer issue |
If you cannot get to the center position remove the plunger where it is.
The object is to ensure the the slot & tang are properly engaged throughout
the
required travel.
Walt
-----Original Message-----
From: ZUDSJ
Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2019 4:30 PM
Subject: Yak-List: Re: Yak 52 Primer issue
Thanks guys for your feedback. My question was more around how I could get
it back to the centre as somethings stopping that. Could you give me more
detail on what I should do with the dowel Walt? I dont understand the
mechanics of the primer hence I was looking for a diagram. Thanks guys!
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=490409#490409
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