---------------------------------------------------------- Yak-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 08/05/19: 7 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 06:49 AM - Why is the T34 so overpriced? (motoadve) 2. 07:04 AM - Re: Why is the T34 so overpriced? (William Geipel) 3. 07:11 AM - Re: Why is the T34 so overpriced? (Todd McCutchan) 4. 07:18 AM - Re: Why is the T34 so overpriced? (motoadve) 5. 07:19 AM - Re: Why is the T34 so overpriced? (JAMES JOHNSON) 6. 01:05 PM - Re: Why is the T34 so overpriced? (Warren Hill) 7. 07:23 PM - Re: longest pneumatic line (AlaskaChang801) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 06:49:21 AM PST US Subject: Yak-List: Why is the T34 so overpriced? From: "motoadve" A CJ6 costs a third of the price, gives the same performance, is better looking, has more warbird feel. A Yak 52 is a 4th of the price. Even some T28s and AT 6s are cheaper than T 34s. Is it because it has a Continental engine and are easier to replace, get parts than all the other planes I mentioned? -------- www.Backcountry182.com Cessna 182 P CJ -6 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=490697#490697 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 07:04:07 AM PST US Subject: Re: Yak-List: Why is the T34 so overpriced? From: William Geipel Its because they all had to spend a fortune to make them airworthy. Go Cj/Yak > On Aug 5, 2019, at 08:48, motoadve wrote: > > > A CJ6 costs a third of the price, gives the same performance, is better looking, has more warbird feel. > A Yak 52 is a 4th of the price. > Even some T28s and AT 6s are cheaper than T 34s. > > Is it because it has a Continental engine and are easier to replace, get parts than all the other planes I mentioned? > > -------- > www.Backcountry182.com > Cessna 182 P > CJ -6 > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=490697#490697 > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:11:48 AM PST US From: Todd McCutchan Subject: Re: Yak-List: Why is the T34 so overpriced? Its 20 knots faster than a CJ and 40 knots faster than a Yak 52. It has American military heritage (and was used by numerous other countries). Cockpits are much more comfortable and roomy. Parts are easy to find and no metric tools, screws, etc. The T-34 is very reliable with a very low mx per flight hour requirement. Any GA mechanic will be familiar with and comfortable working on it. Baggage compartment is about twice the size. Its certified so no restrictions on operations. I have owned T-34s since 2009. I have owned a Yak 50 since 2011. I regularly operate and maintain both experimental and certified aircraft. The Yak 52 is a steal and the CJ-6 is very good value. They are both very good airplanes. In the end it comes down to mission, maintenance, and preferences. Its a bit like asking the why the A-36 Bonanza costs more than a B-55 Baron. Todd Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 5, 2019, at 6:48 AM, motoadve wrote: > > > A CJ6 costs a third of the price, gives the same performance, is better looking, has more warbird feel. > A Yak 52 is a 4th of the price. > Even some T28s and AT 6s are cheaper than T 34s. > > Is it because it has a Continental engine and are easier to replace, get parts than all the other planes I mentioned? > > -------- > www.Backcountry182.com > Cessna 182 P > CJ -6 > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=490697#490697 > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 07:18:33 AM PST US Subject: Yak-List: Re: Why is the T34 so overpriced? From: "motoadve" I have a friend who have had many warbirds, P47, P40, P51s, Hellcat, T 28s,. Showed him my CJ6 and he loved it, said is as much warbird as any of the ones mentioned. This is when the T 34 conversation about why is so overpriced started, and we couldnt figure it out, most T34s are even a lot older than most of the CJ6s out there. -------- www.Backcountry182.com Cessna 182 P CJ -6 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=490700#490700 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 07:19:00 AM PST US From: JAMES JOHNSON Subject: Re: Yak-List: Why is the T34 so overpriced? If T-34s were over priced they would not sell. In fact the market going price now is $200k and rising because aviators like the US iron. Also, Yaks and Changs used to be a GREAT deal! In the late 90s and early 2000s we were buying M14Ps for $5k and Chang motors were being given away. Current M14P prices rival Lycoming/Continental prices and are getting to be very limited. The T34 is a great plane and parts are plentiful. Having owned a nice T34B I was always scared of the ADs and Beechcrafts hatred of the plane but it sure was EASY in daily MX compared to my YAK in about every way. But my new Epsilon trumps them all Dos Centavos Jj Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 5, 2019, at 8:48 AM, motoadve wrote: > > > A CJ6 costs a third of the price, gives the same performance, is better looking, has more warbird feel. > A Yak 52 is a 4th of the price. > Even some T28s and AT 6s are cheaper than T 34s. > > Is it because it has a Continental engine and are easier to replace, get parts than all the other planes I mentioned? > > -------- > www.Backcountry182.com > Cessna 182 P > CJ -6 > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=490697#490697 > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 01:05:12 PM PST US From: Warren Hill Subject: Re: Yak-List: Why is the T34 so overpriced? Agree with Todd. The CJ is a great airplane and may be one of the best overall values in aviation. Mine stated out as a sad project back in 2009 and was awarded the rubber chicken in 2010 at Porterville for the ugliest airplane. It's slowly evolved into something nice with the help of the CJ community here in central Arizona. Attached are some before and after images. The only downside is the amount of maintenance it takes to stay on top of things. Without Jill and Doug, it=99s certain that I=99d be flying something different. Love the CJ, but wish that I could fly it as much as I work on it. Warren Hill N464TW Mesa, AZ > On Aug 5, 2019, at 7:10 AM, Todd McCutchan wrote: > > > It=99s 20 knots faster than a CJ and 40 knots faster than a Yak 52. > > It has American military heritage (and was used by numerous other countries). > > Cockpit=99s are much more comfortable and roomy. > > Parts are easy to find and no metric tools, screws, etc. > > The T-34 is very reliable with a very low mx per flight hour requirement. Any GA mechanic will be familiar with and comfortable working on it. > > Baggage compartment is about twice the size. > > It=99s certified so no restrictions on operations. > > I have owned T-34=99s since 2009. I have owned a Yak 50 since 2011. I regularly operate and maintain both experimental and certified aircraft. > > The Yak 52 is a steal and the CJ-6 is very good value. They are both very good airplanes. > > In the end it comes down to mission, maintenance, and preferences. It=99s a bit like asking the why the A-36 Bonanza costs more than a B-55 Baron. > > Todd > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Aug 5, 2019, at 6:48 AM, motoadve wrote: >> >> >> A CJ6 costs a third of the price, gives the same performance, is better looking, has more warbird feel. >> A Yak 52 is a 4th of the price. >> Even some T28s and AT 6s are cheaper than T 34s. >> >> Is it because it has a Continental engine and are easier to replace, get parts than all the other planes I mentioned? >> >> -------- >> www.Backcountry182.com >> Cessna 182 P >> CJ -6 >> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=490697#490697 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 07:23:03 PM PST US Subject: Yak-List: Re: longest pneumatic line From: "AlaskaChang801" dougsappllc(at)gmail.com wrote: > I normally carry a full line of CJ air fittings, plugs, and nipples. > > Doug > > Thanks Doug. Ill be in touch. > > > > On Tue, Jul 30, 2019 at 8:28 PM AlaskaChang801 wrote: > > > > > > Somewhat new to my CJ and loved reading the comments on all this. One thing I will want to tackle in the future and I'm paying close attention to all the opinions. BUT, I have to ask for my education into this, where does one obtain new B-nuts. Is this something Doug sells or where do I get them? > > > > > > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=490617#490617 (http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=490617#490617) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ========== > > List" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List > > ========== > > FORUMS - > > eferrer" target="_blank">http://forums.matronics.com > > ========== > > WIKI - > > errer" target="_blank">http://wiki.matronics.com > > ========== > > b Site - > > -Matt Dralle, List Admin. > > rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution > > ========== > > > > > > > > > Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=490714#490714 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message yak-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Yak-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/yak-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/yak-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.