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1. 07:35 AM - Re: Why is the T34 so overpriced? (William Geipel)
2. 09:07 AM - Are front and rear gear selectors interchangeable? (CJ6) (jay-dub)
3. 09:23 AM - Re: Are front and rear gear selectors interchangeable? (CJ6) (Byron Fox)
4. 09:26 AM - Re: Are front and rear gear selectors interchangeable? (CJ6) (jay-dub)
5. 09:36 AM - Re: Re: Are front and rear gear selectors interchangeable? (CJ6) (Anthony Savarese)
6. 09:42 AM - Re: Are front and rear gear selectors interchangeable? (CJ6) (jay-dub)
7. 09:43 AM - Re: Marvel Mystery oil (stephen.hayne)
8. 09:47 AM - Re: Re: Are front and rear gear selectors interchangeable? (CJ6) (doug sapp)
9. 09:51 AM - Re: Are front and rear gear selectors interchangeable? (CJ6) (jay-dub)
10. 10:08 AM - Re: Are front and rear gear selectors interchangeable? (CJ6) (doug sapp)
11. 10:44 AM - Re: Are front and rear gear selectors interchangeable? (CJ6) (jay-dub)
12. 10:58 AM - Re: Re: Are front and rear gear selectors interchangeable? (CJ6) (doug sapp)
13. 11:06 AM - Re: Are front and rear gear selectors interchangeable? (CJ6) (jay-dub)
14. 08:13 PM - Re: Why is the T34 so overpriced? (Roger Kemp)
15. 08:20 PM - Electrical issue (bmchambers)
16. 09:27 PM - Re: Electrical issue (Walter Lannon)
17. 10:26 PM - Re: Electrical issue (Mark Bitterlich)
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| Subject: | Re: Why is the T34 so overpriced? |
Its because they all had to spend a fortune to make them airworthy. Go Cj/Yak
> On Aug 5, 2019, at 08:48, motoadve <motoadve@racsa.co.cr> wrote:
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> A CJ6 costs a third of the price, gives the same performance, is better looking,
has more warbird feel.
> A Yak 52 is a 4th of the price.
> Even some T28s and AT 6s are cheaper than T 34s.
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> Is it because it has a Continental engine and are easier to replace, get parts
than all the other planes I mentioned?
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| Subject: | Are front and rear gear selectors interchangeable? (CJ6) |
As per the title, please. Can they be swapped? Our front one has failed and we
removed and blanked the rear a couple of years ago.
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| Subject: | Re: Are front and rear gear selectors interchangeable? (CJ6) |
Sorry, the gear selectors cannot be swapped. Give Doug Sapp a call, and he
=99ll provide you with a replacement for the front gear valve.
Blitz Fox
415-307-2405
> On Aug 6, 2019, at 9:07 AM, jay-dub <flyjnw@gmail.com> wrote:
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| Subject: | Re: Are front and rear gear selectors interchangeable? (CJ6) |
Thanks, I thought that was the case. We have one available on our field as we need
it in a hurry so we'll stick that on and get the other refurbed.
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| Subject: | Re: Are front and rear gear selectors interchangeable? (CJ6) |
No. The rear is significantly different. The front and the two flap selectors are
identical.
Dennis
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> On Aug 6, 2019, at 12:26 PM, jay-dub <flyjnw@gmail.com> wrote:
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| Subject: | Re: Are front and rear gear selectors interchangeable? (CJ6) |
Thanks, Dennis. Have I misunderstood or are you saying the rear flap selector is
the same as the front gear selector?
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| Subject: | Re: Marvel Mystery oil |
markbitterlich(at)embarqm wrote:
> ...immediately
> draining it all out and adding brand new clean oil. You're draining all
> that bad crap out of the engine.
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> Doing this the first time with an engine that has lots and lots of hours on
> it should be approached with caution. Kind of like adding High Thermal
> Stability oil to a turbine for the first time.
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As I've written here before, this is my issue/concern. With my sortof unknown
but seems to be first run based on case stamp, well-pickled from China, Housai
(no logbooks), I had lots of carbon clog the sump screen about 20 hours into
first flying (I installed a oil filter that had almost NO carbon flecks, and the
other screens were clear). Yes, I know now that I should have been watching
that sump screen like a hawk - it is easy to check/clean just about anytime.
For the last 100 hours, I've checked the sump screen every 10-15 hours, and started
out with about 1 teaspoon of carbon, now down to about 1/2 teaspoon. And
before anyone gets bent about the photo - that is less than 1/2 teaspoon at the
bottom of a 100 micron paint filter. :)
I am reluctant to add MMO, in case it shakes loose even more carbon, "quickly".
But, before this next oil change, I will probably add a couple quarts and fly
for 1-2 hours. Boroscopes of valves, etc., all look good, btw.
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Stephen Hayne, Professor, CIS, Colorado State University
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| Subject: | Re: Are front and rear gear selectors interchangeable? (CJ6) |
In a CJ6A the QSF-2A (3 port valve) are used in the following positions:
Front gear valve
Front flap valve
Rear flap valve
12-5522-00 (5 port valve) is used:
Only in the rear gear valve position
The 5 port valve and the 3 port valves are interchangeable with those used
in the Yak 52.
Hope this helps,
Doug
On Tue, Aug 6, 2019 at 9:34 AM jay-dub <flyjnw@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Thanks, I thought that was the case. We have one available on our field as
> we need it in a hurry so we'll stick that on and get the other refurbed.
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| Subject: | Re: Are front and rear gear selectors interchangeable? (CJ6) |
Certainly does. Many thanks.
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| Subject: | Re: Are front and rear gear selectors interchangeable? (CJ6) |
Byron is correct, they are not interchangeable.
We highly recommend that anyone changing their QSF-2A or the 12-5522-00 (3
or 5 port valve) add the new "Final Filter" when installing the new valve.
There are basically only two things which kill these valves-- water and
grit. This is NOT a desiccant filter so it will not stop moisture, you
should already have a desiccant filter installed to do that job.
This new stainless steel filter is attached directly to the valve body in
the air IN port, and will stop 100% of any junk (rust or grit) from getting
into the new valve. As many of you have noticed, the price of these valves
has risen considerably in the past year and if you pay attention to the
daily news about Trump and his trade war it should give us all the
encouragement we need to be a bit proactive in extending the useful life
of these valves. Keeping the air DRY and CLEAN is the very important, that
being done will assure that these valves will last for many years.
Best,
Doug
On Tue, Aug 6, 2019 at 9:29 AM Byron Fox <byronmfox@gmail.com> wrote:
> Sorry, the gear selectors cannot be swapped. Give Doug Sapp a call, and
> he=99ll provide you with a replacement for the front gear valve.
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> Blitz Fox
> 415-307-2405
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> On Aug 6, 2019, at 9:07 AM, jay-dub <flyjnw@gmail.com> wrote:
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> As per the title, please. Can they be swapped? Our front one has failed
> and we removed and blanked the rear a couple of years ago.
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| Subject: | Re: Are front and rear gear selectors interchangeable? (CJ6) |
Doug,
Are you able to supply the final filters separately?
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| Subject: | Re: Are front and rear gear selectors interchangeable? (CJ6) |
Yes, of course, I did not mean to imply otherwise.
Doug
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| Subject: | Re: Are front and rear gear selectors interchangeable? (CJ6) |
No implication suggested. Will contact you off list.
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| Subject: | Re: Why is the T34 so overpriced? |
Same for the YAK.
Doc
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> On Aug 5, 2019, at 2:37 PM, Warren Hill <hill@doctor-hill.com> wrote:
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> Agree with Todd. The CJ is a great airplane and may be one of the best ove
rall values in aviation. Mine stated out as a sad project back in 2009 and w
as awarded the rubber chicken in 2010 at Porterville for the ugliest airplan
e. It's slowly evolved into something nice with the help of the CJ community
here in central Arizona. Attached are some before and after images.
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> The only downside is the amount of maintenance it takes to stay on top of t
hings. Without Jill and Doug, it=99s certain that I=99d be flyin
g something different. Love the CJ, but wish that I could fly it as much as I
work on it.
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> Warren Hill
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>> On Aug 5, 2019, at 7:10 AM, Todd McCutchan <todd@fastaircraft.com> wrote:
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>> It=99s 20 knots faster than a CJ and 40 knots faster than a Yak 52.
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>> It has American military heritage (and was used by numerous other countri
es).
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>> Cockpit=99s are much more comfortable and roomy.
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>> Parts are easy to find and no metric tools, screws, etc.
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>> The T-34 is very reliable with a very low mx per flight hour requirement.
Any GA mechanic will be familiar with and comfortable working on it.
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>> Baggage compartment is about twice the size.
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>> It=99s certified so no restrictions on operations.
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>> I have owned T-34=99s since 2009. I have owned a Yak 50 since 2011.
I regularly operate and maintain both experimental and certified aircraft.
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>> The Yak 52 is a steal and the CJ-6 is very good value. They are both very
good airplanes.
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>> In the end it comes down to mission, maintenance, and preferences. It
=99s a bit like asking the why the A-36 Bonanza costs more than a B-55 Baron
.
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>> Todd
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>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>> On Aug 5, 2019, at 6:48 AM, motoadve <motoadve@racsa.co.cr> wrote:
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>>> A CJ6 costs a third of the price, gives the same performance, is better
looking, has more warbird feel.
>>> A Yak 52 is a 4th of the price.
>>> Even some T28s and AT 6s are cheaper than T 34s.
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>>> Is it because it has a Continental engine and are easier to replace, get
parts than all the other planes I mentioned?
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>>> Cessna 182 P
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| Subject: | Electrical issue |
Flying the yak today and after I land on the first leg, the batt switch on no power.
Hook up ext power and everything comes on. Get the engine started, generator
takes over. At low RPM with the gen cutout, no Gen warning light. Test the
battery, full charge.
Thoughts?
Thanks
Bryan
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| Subject: | Re: Electrical issue |
Bryan;
Check the continuity of the wiring of the battery master switch circuit from
the battery to the master relay. If OK check the switch and the battery
master relay.
I had exactly the same problem about 30 years ago with my Harvard 4. Turned
out to be a 40 year old wire buried in a 1" bundle that just had enough!
Walt
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Sent: Tuesday, August 06, 2019 8:19 PM
Subject: Yak-List: Electrical issue
Flying the yak today and after I land on the first leg, the batt switch on
no power. Hook up ext power and everything comes on. Get the engine started,
generator takes over. At low RPM with the gen cutout, no Gen warning light.
Test the battery, full charge.
Thoughts?
Thanks
Bryan
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| Subject: | Electrical issue |
Walt, in the YAK-50 and 52, there are two Master Power relays. One for
ground power and one for battery power. I am not sure what model Yak that
Bryan has, so I will go on the assumption it is not a 55. Both of these
relays are located in the main electrical panel which I assume Bryan knows
about. If not, on the 52 it is located on the right side, forward of the
cockpit, remove access panel and look for blue box with a cover held on by
two knurled knobs. On the 50, it is located in the hell hole on the
firewall. Same box.
I have a picture of this box, and the relays in question and am sending it,
but don't know if it will post to the list server. Bryan and Walt, I am
sending it to you both personally. On the bottom right are two relays
arranged vertically. . These are your ground and battery master relays.
These two relays are identical and in an emergency, the battery relay can
with switched with the ground power relay restoring operation until you can
get a new one.
All that said, you might get lucky. In the middle of the picture, located
underneath a metal bus bar strip is a big black bus fuse. This fuse is on
the bottom middle, just to the right of the DMR-200 Combined Relay. If this
fuse blows, it will cause your exact problem. The fuse has terminal lugs
soldered to each end, and you can remove those and put on a new fuse you can
find at Lowes, or you can replace the fuse with a circuit breaker. This is
a very old style bus fuse and can fail simply by mechanical vibration, so it
is the first thing to check.
Good luck,
Mark
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[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Walter Lannon
Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2019 12:25 AM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Electrical issue
Bryan;
Check the continuity of the wiring of the battery master switch circuit from
the battery to the master relay. If OK check the switch and the battery
master relay.
I had exactly the same problem about 30 years ago with my Harvard 4. Turned
out to be a 40 year old wire buried in a 1" bundle that just had enough!
Walt
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From: bmchambers
Sent: Tuesday, August 06, 2019 8:19 PM
Subject: Yak-List: Electrical issue
Flying the yak today and after I land on the first leg, the batt switch on
no power. Hook up ext power and everything comes on. Get the engine started,
generator takes over. At low RPM with the gen cutout, no Gen warning light.
Test the battery, full charge.
Thoughts?
Thanks
Bryan
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