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| Subject: | Re: Electrical issue |
Thanks all! Great info and definitely jut saved me hours of trying to figure this
thing out as a new yak owner.
Bryan
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| Subject: | Re: Marvel Mystery oil |
Marvel Mystery Oil logo
Marvel Mystery Oil is a product of the Marvel Oil Company, founded by Burt P
ierce.[1] It is used as a fuel additive, oil additive, corrosion inhibitor, p
enetrating oil, and transmission leak stopper and seal relubricator.
It is composed primarily of petroleum distillates, including mineral oil (60
-100%), mineral spirits {10-30%}, tricresyl phosphate (an antiwear and extre
me pressure additive in lubricants, 0.1-1.0%), ortho dichlorobenzene (a soft
ening and removing agent for carbon-based contamination on metal surfaces, 0
.1-1.0%), and para dichlorobenzene (a precursor used in the production of ch
emically and thermally resistant polymers, <0.1%).
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Origin
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After World War I, the Marvel Carburetor Company (Marvel-Schebler Carburetor
s since 1928) produced carburetors for automobiles and aircraft. Some of the
se encountered problems with clogged jets, prompting Pierce to formulate a b
lend of chemicals and petroleum to clean and maintain them. Marvel claims th
e oil creates a top ring seal producing higher compression, preventing blow-
by on power strokes, resulting in more power.[1] Supporting evidence is not p
rovided.
The Marvel Oil Company was initially based in Chicago, moved to New York in 1
941 and was purchased by Turtle Wax Inc. in 1999, returning to Chicago.[1]
According to the company, the name Mystery Oil comes from Pierce's answer to
the question, "what kind of oil is this?" to which Pierce would respond, "I
t's a mystery!"[1]
Composition
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According to the company's 2015 safety data sheet Marvel Mystery Oil is comp
osed of:[2]
Petroleum Distillates (Hydrotreated Heavy Naphthenic) also known as mineral o
il, 60-100%[2]
Petroleum Distillates (Stoddard Solvent) also known as white spirit, 10-30%[
2]
Tricresyl phosphate, an antiwear and extreme pressure additive in lubricants
0.1-1.0%[2]
Ortho Dichlorobenzene, a softening and removing agent for carbon-based conta
mination on metal surfaces, 0.1-1.0%[2]
Para Dichlorobenzene, a precursor used in the production of chemically and t
hermally resistant polymers, <0.1%[2]
In an NTSB post aircraft accident investigation published in 2003, it was re
ported that Marvel Mystery Oil was composed of 74 percent mineral oil, 25 pe
rcent stoddard solvent, and 1 percent lard.[3], but failed to mention any ot
her trace chemical components.
Claims
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Marvel Mystery Oil marketing literature claims benefits which include improv
ed lubricating qualities, primarily cleaning and friction reduction capabili
ties. The product has previously been marketed as a fuel additive in all kin
ds of engines, including aircraft (although the company no longer markets it
for the latter application on their website). It has also been used as an o
il additive, corrosion inhibitor, penetrating oil, and in automatic transmis
sions as a leak stopper and seal relubricator.[4]Supporting evidence for cla
imed benefits is not provided by the manufacturer.
The lubricant was used as a fuel additive in a Lycoming aircraft engine whic
h was specifically cautioned against oil additives (Service Instruction No. 1
014M, which also stated its use would void the warranty) which suffered cata
strophic damage during take-off. The NTSB listed the probable cause of the a
ccident as "The improper use of [a] fuel additive which resulted in a power l
oss."[3][5]
Auto manufacturers Ford[6] and GM[7] recommend against using engine oil addi
tives, stating they are unnecessary in their contemporary engine designs and
may void their warranties.
Ortho dichlorobenzene is the agent that binds the carbon deposited on the va
lve guides.
I have used it since 2001 in my YAKs. Without it the engine does run rougher
.
Doc
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> On Jul 30, 2019, at 4:42 PM, Justin Drafts <draftsjust417@gmail.com> wrote
:
>
> Ya, if anyone has good experiences with MMO, I'm def interested & open to h
ear the positive reports... I can't say one way or another from personal exp
erience.
> J
>
>> On Tue, Jul 30, 2019, 2:33 PM William Geipel <l129bs@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Can=99t hurt. I like wintergreen!
>> It=99s like many things, everybody has an opinion.
>> Thanks for the info.
>>
>>
>>> On Jul 30, 2019, at 15:43, Justin Drafts <draftsjust417@gmail.com> wrote
:
>>>
>>> Hey so, just back from Oshkosh and the many forums on engine maintenance
.
>>> I asked the very same question of one engine maintenance lecturer and ra
dial-engine owner (see pic); he replied that MMO is nothing more than 20-wei
ght sewing machine oil with wintergreen fragrance added. Hence, he meant the
re is little value added by using it.
>>> Some may say it's great, I personally don't plan to use it in my CJ6.
>>>
>>> Justin
>>> N280NC
>>>
>>>> On Tue, Jul 30, 2019, 1:19 PM motoadve <motoadve@racsa.co.cr> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Some like it some say its a waste.
>>>> Never tried it.
>>>>
>>>> Bought some, for the ones who use it.
>>>> How much to put in the oil, how much to put in the fuel?
>>>>
>>>> What are the benefits?
>>>> Cons? Apart from money wasted? :D
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