---------------------------------------------------------- Yak-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 10/11/19: 12 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 02:00 AM - Re: Oil Temp/Oil Press/Fuel Press Triple gauge (727gs) 2. 03:22 AM - Re: Oil Temp/Oil Press/Fuel Press Triple gauge (Harv) 3. 07:09 AM - Re: CJ6 prop blade leakage (Paul Lewis) 4. 09:01 AM - Re: CJ6 prop blade leakage (Larry Pine) 5. 10:57 AM - Re: Oil Temp/Oil Press/Fuel Press Triple gauge (727gs) 6. 11:21 AM - Re: CJ6 prop blade leakage (A. Dennis Savarese) 7. 11:38 AM - Re: CJ6 prop blade leakage (Paul Lewis) 8. 02:26 PM - Re: Re: Oil Temp/Oil Press/Fuel Press Triple gauge (Warren Hill) 9. 02:48 PM - Re: Re: Oil Temp/Oil Press/Fuel Press Triple gauge (Richard Kelley) 10. 05:05 PM - Re: CJ6 prop blade leakage (Paul Lewis) 11. 06:09 PM - Re: CJ6 prop blade leakage (Anthony Savarese) 12. 07:38 PM - Re: CJ6 prop blade leakage (Paul Lewis) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 02:00:29 AM PST US Subject: Yak-List: Re: Oil Temp/Oil Press/Fuel Press Triple gauge From: "727gs" <727gs@att.net> This is a CJ. I forgot to mention it. I swapped the rear triple gauge with the front and the problem stayed with the gauge so I'm satisfied that it is the rear gauge. As for the carb temp, I had an old spare but was unsure if it was any good. Both maxed out high. Couldn't find the temp probe on the carb, either. Steve -------- Steve near Chicago Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=491766#491766 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 03:22:56 AM PST US Subject: Yak-List: Re: Oil Temp/Oil Press/Fuel Press Triple gauge From: "Harv" The air temp probe isn't really part of the carb, is located on the airbox ducting just behind the air intake mesh filter screen. If you drop the lower engine cowling you should see it mounted horizontally from the left hand side in the airbox (as viewed standing in front of the AC) Rgs Harv Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=491767#491767 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:09:23 AM PST US From: Paul Lewis Subject: Re: Yak-List: CJ6 prop blade leakage Thanks Dennis, do the blades have to be removed to install the seals? My A&P has no idea. On Thu, Oct 10, 2019 at 5:42 PM Anthony Savarese < dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net> wrote: > dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net> > > First determine if there is oil inside the hub when you pull the prop hum > dome and piston. If there is, replace both the inner and outer seal on th e > piston. > > Oil inside the hub will spew out on to the blade roots when the prop is > spinning. Oil inside the hub is caused by a weak inner piston seal. > > Check your log books for the last time the hub was disassembled, cleaned > and all bearings and races regreased. If it hasn=99t been done in t he last > 200 hours, it would be a good idea to do so. > > Also check the log book to see if the collet seals have been replaced in > the last 600-750 hours. Again, if there is no record of it being done, it > would be recommended they be replaced as well. > > Dennis > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Oct 10, 2019, at 10:05 AM, Okanogan Lew > wrote: > > ity.org> > > > > Guys, I have noticed a heavy grease seeping from the propeller hub onto > the blades of on my CJ6. I assume there is a seal that needs to be > replaced. Any info would be greatly appreciated. > > > > > > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=491734#491734 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > =========== =========== =========== =========== =========== > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 09:01:19 AM PST US From: Larry Pine Subject: Re: Yak-List: CJ6 prop blade leakage Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 11, 2019, at 7:07 AM, Paul Lewis wrote: > > Thanks Dennis, do the blades have to be removed to install the seals? My A &P has no idea. > >> On Thu, Oct 10, 2019 at 5:42 PM Anthony Savarese wrote: .net> >> >> First determine if there is oil inside the hub when you pull the prop hum dome and piston. If there is, replace both the inner and outer seal on the p iston. >> >> Oil inside the hub will spew out on to the blade roots when the prop is s pinning. Oil inside the hub is caused by a weak inner piston seal. >> >> Check your log books for the last time the hub was disassembled, cleaned a nd all bearings and races regreased. If it hasn=99t been done in the l ast 200 hours, it would be a good idea to do so. >> >> Also check the log book to see if the collet seals have been replaced in t he last 600-750 hours. Again, if there is no record of it being done, it wou ld be recommended they be replaced as well. >> >> Dennis >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> > On Oct 10, 2019, at 10:05 AM, Okanogan Lew wrot e: >> > ity.org> >> > >> > Guys, I have noticed a heavy grease seeping from the propeller hub onto the blades of on my CJ6. I assume there is a seal that needs to be replaced . Any info would be greatly appreciated. >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > Read this topic online here: >> > >> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=491734#491734 >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >> >> ========== >> List" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navig ator?Yak-List >> ========== >> FORUMS - >> eferrer" target="_blank">http://forums.matronics.com >> ========== >> WIKI - >> errer" target="_blank">http://wiki.matronics.com >> ========== >> b Site - >> -Matt Dralle, List Admin. >> rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contributio n >> ========== >> >> >> ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 10:57:27 AM PST US Subject: Yak-List: Re: Oil Temp/Oil Press/Fuel Press Triple gauge From: "727gs" <727gs@att.net> Are the Chinese and Russian gauges interchangeable? -------- Steve near Chicago Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=491774#491774 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 11:21:57 AM PST US From: "A. Dennis Savarese" Subject: Re: Yak-List: CJ6 prop blade leakage If you're talking about the collet seals, yes.=C2- Then the blade angles have to be reset.=C2- If you're talking about the seals in the prop hub piston, no.=C2- To grease the bearings, you loosen the large castellated nuts on each side and remove the entire assembly from the hub.=C2- What r emains in the hub is one flat bearing, one race and a slider.=C2- Each si de is the same.=C2- The other flat bearing is on the assembly you removed .Dennis On Friday, October 11, 2019, 10:11:01 AM EDT, Paul Lewis wrote: Thanks Dennis, do the blades have to be removed to install the seals?=C2 - My A&P has no idea. On Thu, Oct 10, 2019 at 5:42 PM Anthony Savarese wrote: et> First determine if there is oil inside the hub when you pull the prop hum d ome and piston. If there is, replace both the inner and outer seal on the p iston. Oil inside the hub will spew out on to the blade roots when the prop is spi nning. Oil inside the hub is caused by a weak inner piston seal.=C2- Check your log books for the last time the hub was disassembled, cleaned an d all bearings and races regreased. If it hasn=99t been done in the l ast 200 hours, it would be a good idea to do so. Also check the log book to see if the collet seals have been replaced in th e last 600-750 hours. Again, if there is no record of it being done, it wou ld be recommended they be replaced as well. Dennis Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 10, 2019, at 10:05 AM, Okanogan Lew wrote: > y.org> > > Guys, I have noticed a heavy grease seeping from the propeller hub onto t he blades of on my CJ6. I assume there is a seal that needs to be replaced. Any info would be greatly appreciated. > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=491734#491734 > > > > > > > > > List" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigat or?Yak-List FORUMS - eferrer" target="_blank">http://forums.matronics.com WIKI - errer" target="_blank">http://wiki.matronics.com b Site - =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- -Matt Dralle, List Admin. rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 11:38:30 AM PST US From: Paul Lewis Subject: Re: Yak-List: CJ6 prop blade leakage Very helpful, thanks. On Fri, Oct 11, 2019 at 11:26 AM A. Dennis Savarese < dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net> wrote: > If you're talking about the collet seals, yes. Then the blade angles hav e > to be reset. If you're talking about the seals in the prop hub piston, > no. To grease the bearings, you loosen the large castellated nuts on eac h > side and remove the entire assembly from the hub. What remains in the hu b > is one flat bearing, one race and a slider. Each side is the same. The > other flat bearing is on the assembly you removed. > Dennis > > On Friday, October 11, 2019, 10:11:01 AM EDT, Paul Lewis < > okanoganlew@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Thanks Dennis, do the blades have to be removed to install the seals? My > A&P has no idea. > > On Thu, Oct 10, 2019 at 5:42 PM Anthony Savarese < > dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net> wrote: > > dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net> > > First determine if there is oil inside the hub when you pull the prop hum > dome and piston. If there is, replace both the inner and outer seal on th e > piston. > > Oil inside the hub will spew out on to the blade roots when the prop is > spinning. Oil inside the hub is caused by a weak inner piston seal. > > Check your log books for the last time the hub was disassembled, cleaned > and all bearings and races regreased. If it hasn=99t been done in t he last > 200 hours, it would be a good idea to do so. > > Also check the log book to see if the collet seals have been replaced in > the last 600-750 hours. Again, if there is no record of it being done, it > would be recommended they be replaced as well. > > Dennis > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Oct 10, 2019, at 10:05 AM, Okanogan Lew > wrote: > > ity.org> > > > > Guys, I have noticed a heavy grease seeping from the propeller hub onto > the blades of on my CJ6. I assume there is a seal that needs to be > replaced. Any info would be greatly appreciated. > > > > > > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=491734#491734 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ========== > List" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"> > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List > ========== > FORUMS - > eferrer" target="_blank">http://forums.matronics.com > ========== > WIKI - > errer" target="_blank">http://wiki.matronics.com > ========== > b Site - > -Matt Dralle, List Admin. > rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contributio n > ========== > > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 02:26:38 PM PST US From: Warren Hill Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: Oil Temp/Oil Press/Fuel Press Triple gauge If you are referring to the triple gauges yes. I have Russian triple gauges in my CJ and they work fine. > On Oct 11, 2019, at 10:57 AM, 727gs <727gs@att.net> wrote: > > > Are the Chinese and Russian gauges interchangeable? > > -------- > Steve near Chicago > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=491774#491774 > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 02:48:26 PM PST US From: Richard Kelley Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: Oil Temp/Oil Press/Fuel Press Triple gauge I have a couple of those gauges at home from my CJ. If you need one call 210-787-0327 Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 11, 2019, at 3:32 PM, Warren Hill wrote: > > > If you are referring to the triple gauges yes. I have Russian triple gauges in my CJ and they work fine. > > >> On Oct 11, 2019, at 10:57 AM, 727gs <727gs@att.net> wrote: >> >> >> Are the Chinese and Russian gauges interchangeable? >> >> -------- >> Steve near Chicago >> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=491774#491774 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 05:05:50 PM PST US From: Paul Lewis Subject: Re: Yak-List: CJ6 prop blade leakage I have removed one blade. What do you recommend for grease? On Fri, Oct 11, 2019 at 11:36 AM Paul Lewis wrote: > Very helpful, thanks. > > On Fri, Oct 11, 2019 at 11:26 AM A. Dennis Savarese < > dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net> wrote: > >> If you're talking about the collet seals, yes. Then the blade angles >> have to be reset. If you're talking about the seals in the prop hub >> piston, no. To grease the bearings, you loosen the large castellated nu ts >> on each side and remove the entire assembly from the hub. What remains in >> the hub is one flat bearing, one race and a slider. Each side is the >> same. The other flat bearing is on the assembly you removed. >> Dennis >> >> On Friday, October 11, 2019, 10:11:01 AM EDT, Paul Lewis < >> okanoganlew@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> Thanks Dennis, do the blades have to be removed to install the seals? M y >> A&P has no idea. >> >> On Thu, Oct 10, 2019 at 5:42 PM Anthony Savarese < >> dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net> wrote: >> >> dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net> >> >> First determine if there is oil inside the hub when you pull the prop hu m >> dome and piston. If there is, replace both the inner and outer seal on t he >> piston. >> >> Oil inside the hub will spew out on to the blade roots when the prop is >> spinning. Oil inside the hub is caused by a weak inner piston seal. >> >> Check your log books for the last time the hub was disassembled, cleaned >> and all bearings and races regreased. If it hasn=99t been done in the last >> 200 hours, it would be a good idea to do so. >> >> Also check the log book to see if the collet seals have been replaced in >> the last 600-750 hours. Again, if there is no record of it being done, i t >> would be recommended they be replaced as well. >> >> Dennis >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> > On Oct 10, 2019, at 10:05 AM, Okanogan Lew >> wrote: >> > nity.org> >> > >> > Guys, I have noticed a heavy grease seeping from the propeller hub ont o >> the blades of on my CJ6. I assume there is a seal that needs to be >> replaced. Any info would be greatly appreciated. >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > Read this topic online here: >> > >> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=491734#491734 >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >> >> ========== >> List" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"> >> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List >> ========== >> FORUMS - >> eferrer" target="_blank">http://forums.matronics.com >> ========== >> WIKI - >> errer" target="_blank">http://wiki.matronics.com >> ========== >> b Site - >> -Matt Dralle, List Admin. >> rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contributi on >> ========== >> >> >> >> ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 06:09:24 PM PST US From: Anthony Savarese Subject: Re: Yak-List: CJ6 prop blade leakage Aeroshell #5 is good. Dennis Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 11, 2019, at 8:07 PM, Paul Lewis wrote: > > =EF=BB > I have removed one blade. What do you recommend for grease? > >> On Fri, Oct 11, 2019 at 11:36 AM Paul Lewis wrote : >> Very helpful, thanks. >> >>> On Fri, Oct 11, 2019 at 11:26 AM A. Dennis Savarese wrote: >>> If you're talking about the collet seals, yes. Then the blade angles ha ve to be reset. If you're talking about the seals in the prop hub piston, n o. To grease the bearings, you loosen the large castellated nuts on each si de and remove the entire assembly from the hub. What remains in the hub is o ne flat bearing, one race and a slider. Each side is the same. The other f lat bearing is on the assembly you removed. >>> Dennis >>> >>> On Friday, October 11, 2019, 10:11:01 AM EDT, Paul Lewis wrote: >>> >>> >>> Thanks Dennis, do the blades have to be removed to install the seals? M y A&P has no idea. >>> >>> On Thu, Oct 10, 2019 at 5:42 PM Anthony Savarese wrote: h.net> >>> >>> First determine if there is oil inside the hub when you pull the prop hu m dome and piston. If there is, replace both the inner and outer seal on the piston. >>> >>> Oil inside the hub will spew out on to the blade roots when the prop is s pinning. Oil inside the hub is caused by a weak inner piston seal. >>> >>> Check your log books for the last time the hub was disassembled, cleaned and all bearings and races regreased. If it hasn=99t been done in the last 200 hours, it would be a good idea to do so. >>> >>> Also check the log book to see if the collet seals have been replaced in the last 600-750 hours. Again, if there is no record of it being done, it w ould be recommended they be replaced as well. >>> >>> Dennis >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> > On Oct 10, 2019, at 10:05 AM, Okanogan Lew wro te: >>> > nity.org> >>> > >>> > Guys, I have noticed a heavy grease seeping from the propeller hub ont o the blades of on my CJ6. I assume there is a seal that needs to be replace d. Any info would be greatly appreciated. >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > Read this topic online here: >>> > >>> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=491734#491734 >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> >>> >>> ========== >>> List" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navi gator?Yak-List >>> ========== >>> FORUMS - >>> eferrer" target="_blank">http://forums.matronics.com >>> ========== >>> WIKI - >>> errer" target="_blank">http://wiki.matronics.com >>> ========== >>> b Site - >>> -Matt Dralle, List Admin. >>> rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contributi on >>> ========== >>> >>> >>> ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 07:38:52 PM PST US From: Paul Lewis Subject: Re: Yak-List: CJ6 prop blade leakage I noticed that the castle nuts on my prop have rows of drilled & tapped holes, but no screws installed. Photo's of other Housai props show screws installed & safety wired. Is my CJ missing a prop piece? Thanks. Paul On Fri, Oct 11, 2019 at 6:13 PM Anthony Savarese < dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net> wrote: > Aeroshell #5 is good. > Dennis > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Oct 11, 2019, at 8:07 PM, Paul Lewis wrote: > > =EF=BB > I have removed one blade. What do you recommend for grease? > > On Fri, Oct 11, 2019 at 11:36 AM Paul Lewis wrote : > >> Very helpful, thanks. >> >> On Fri, Oct 11, 2019 at 11:26 AM A. Dennis Savarese < >> dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net> wrote: >> >>> If you're talking about the collet seals, yes. Then the blade angles >>> have to be reset. If you're talking about the seals in the prop hub >>> piston, no. To grease the bearings, you loosen the large castellated n uts >>> on each side and remove the entire assembly from the hub. What remains in >>> the hub is one flat bearing, one race and a slider. Each side is the >>> same. The other flat bearing is on the assembly you removed. >>> Dennis >>> >>> On Friday, October 11, 2019, 10:11:01 AM EDT, Paul Lewis < >>> okanoganlew@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> >>> Thanks Dennis, do the blades have to be removed to install the seals? >>> My A&P has no idea. >>> >>> On Thu, Oct 10, 2019 at 5:42 PM Anthony Savarese < >>> dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net> wrote: >>> >>> dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net> >>> >>> First determine if there is oil inside the hub when you pull the prop >>> hum dome and piston. If there is, replace both the inner and outer seal on >>> the piston. >>> >>> Oil inside the hub will spew out on to the blade roots when the prop is >>> spinning. Oil inside the hub is caused by a weak inner piston seal. >>> >>> Check your log books for the last time the hub was disassembled, cleane d >>> and all bearings and races regreased. If it hasn=99t been done in the last >>> 200 hours, it would be a good idea to do so. >>> >>> Also check the log book to see if the collet seals have been replaced i n >>> the last 600-750 hours. Again, if there is no record of it being done, it >>> would be recommended they be replaced as well. >>> >>> Dennis >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> > On Oct 10, 2019, at 10:05 AM, Okanogan Lew >>> wrote: >>> > unity.org >>> > >>> > >>> > Guys, I have noticed a heavy grease seeping from the propeller hub >>> onto the blades of on my CJ6. I assume there is a seal that needs to be >>> replaced. Any info would be greatly appreciated. >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > Read this topic online here: >>> > >>> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=491734#491734 >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> >>> >>> ========== >>> List" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"> >>> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List >>> ========== >>> FORUMS - >>> eferrer" target="_blank">http://forums.matronics.com >>> ========== >>> WIKI - >>> errer" target="_blank">http://wiki.matronics.com >>> ========== >>> b Site - >>> -Matt Dralle, List Admin. >>> rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribut ion >>> ========== >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message yak-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Yak-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/yak-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/yak-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.