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     1. 11:07 AM - Re: Yak-List Digest: 12 Msgs - 10/11/19 (BILL TILEY)
     2. 11:07 AM - Re: Yak-List Digest: 12 Msgs - 10/11/19 (BILL TILEY)
     3. 12:30 PM - Re: CJ6 prop blade leakage (stephen.hayne)
     4. 12:36 PM - Re: Prolonged idling/taxiing (stephen.hayne)
     5. 02:07 PM - Re: Re: Prolonged idling/taxiing (Mark Bitterlich)
     6. 02:27 PM - Re: Prolonged idling/taxiing (stephen.hayne)
 
 
 


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    Time: 11:07:23 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Yak-List Digest: 12 Msgs - 10/11/19
    From: BILL TILEY <yakflyer@aol.com>
    Has anyone seen Yak 52TW N57AZ? Letters to the registered owner returned as Unknown - Incorrect Address. I bought this Yak new in 2003. Registered it at my resident Airpark... N57AZ. Interested in buying it back. Bill Tiley (Tylee) yakflyer@aol.com Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 11, 2019, at 11:51 PM, Yak-List Digest Server <yak-list@matronics.com> wrote: > > * > > ================================================= > Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive > ================================================= > > Today's complete Yak-List Digest can also be found in either of the > two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted > in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes > and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version > of the Yak-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor > such as Notepad or with a web browser. > > HTML Version: > > http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=html&Chapter 19-10-11&Archive=Yak > > Text Version: > > http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=txt&Chapter 19-10-11&Archive=Yak > > > =============================================== > EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive > =============================================== > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > Yak-List Digest Archive > --- > Total Messages Posted Fri 10/11/19: 12 > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > > Today's Message Index: > ---------------------- > > 1. 02:00 AM - Re: Oil Temp/Oil Press/Fuel Press Triple gauge (727gs) > 2. 03:22 AM - Re: Oil Temp/Oil Press/Fuel Press Triple gauge (Harv) > 3. 07:09 AM - Re: CJ6 prop blade leakage (Paul Lewis) > 4. 09:01 AM - Re: CJ6 prop blade leakage (Larry Pine) > 5. 10:57 AM - Re: Oil Temp/Oil Press/Fuel Press Triple gauge (727gs) > 6. 11:21 AM - Re: CJ6 prop blade leakage (A. Dennis Savarese) > 7. 11:38 AM - Re: CJ6 prop blade leakage (Paul Lewis) > 8. 02:26 PM - Re: Re: Oil Temp/Oil Press/Fuel Press Triple gauge (Warren Hill) > 9. 02:48 PM - Re: Re: Oil Temp/Oil Press/Fuel Press Triple gauge (Richard Kelley) > 10. 05:05 PM - Re: CJ6 prop blade leakage (Paul Lewis) > 11. 06:09 PM - Re: CJ6 prop blade leakage (Anthony Savarese) > 12. 07:38 PM - Re: CJ6 prop blade leakage (Paul Lewis) > > > > ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ > > > Time: 02:00:29 AM PST US > Subject: Yak-List: Re: Oil Temp/Oil Press/Fuel Press Triple gauge > From: "727gs" <727gs@att.net> > > > This is a CJ. I forgot to mention it. > > I swapped the rear triple gauge with the front and the problem stayed with the > gauge so I'm satisfied that it is the rear gauge. As for the carb temp, I had > an old spare but was unsure if it was any good. Both maxed out high. Couldn't > find the temp probe on the carb, either. > > Steve > > -------- > Steve near Chicago > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=491766#491766 > > > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ > > > Time: 03:22:56 AM PST US > Subject: Yak-List: Re: Oil Temp/Oil Press/Fuel Press Triple gauge > From: "Harv" <martin.harvey@kbr.com> > > > The air temp probe isn't really part of the carb, is located on the airbox ducting > just behind the air intake mesh filter screen. If you drop the lower engine > cowling you should see it mounted horizontally from the left hand side in the > airbox (as viewed standing in front of the AC) > > Rgs > Harv > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=491767#491767 > > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ > > > Time: 07:09:23 AM PST US > From: Paul Lewis <okanoganlew@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: Yak-List: CJ6 prop blade leakage > > Thanks Dennis, do the blades have to be removed to install the seals? My > A&P has no idea. > >> On Thu, Oct 10, 2019 at 5:42 PM Anthony Savarese < >> dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net> wrote: >> >> dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net> >> >> First determine if there is oil inside the hub when you pull the prop hum >> dome and piston. If there is, replace both the inner and outer seal on th > e >> piston. >> >> Oil inside the hub will spew out on to the blade roots when the prop is >> spinning. Oil inside the hub is caused by a weak inner piston seal. >> >> Check your log books for the last time the hub was disassembled, cleaned >> and all bearings and races regreased. If it hasn=99t been done in t > he last >> 200 hours, it would be a good idea to do so. >> >> Also check the log book to see if the collet seals have been replaced in >> the last 600-750 hours. Again, if there is no record of it being done, it >> would be recommended they be replaced as well. >> >> Dennis >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Oct 10, 2019, at 10:05 AM, Okanogan Lew <vplewis@community.org> >> wrote: >>> > ity.org> >>> >>> Guys, I have noticed a heavy grease seeping from the propeller hub onto >> the blades of on my CJ6. I assume there is a seal that needs to be >> replaced. Any info would be greatly appreciated. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Read this topic online here: >>> >>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=491734#491734 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> > ========== > ========== > ========== > ========== > ========== >> >> > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ > > > Time: 09:01:19 AM PST US > From: Larry Pine <threein60@yahoo.com> > Subject: Re: Yak-List: CJ6 prop blade leakage > > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Oct 11, 2019, at 7:07 AM, Paul Lewis <okanoganlew@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Thanks Dennis, do the blades have to be removed to install the seals? My A > &P has no idea. >> >>> On Thu, Oct 10, 2019 at 5:42 PM Anthony Savarese <dsavarese0812@bellsouth > .net> wrote: > .net> >>> >>> First determine if there is oil inside the hub when you pull the prop hum > dome and piston. If there is, replace both the inner and outer seal on the p > iston. >>> >>> Oil inside the hub will spew out on to the blade roots when the prop is s > pinning. Oil inside the hub is caused by a weak inner piston seal. >>> >>> Check your log books for the last time the hub was disassembled, cleaned a > nd all bearings and races regreased. If it hasn=99t been done in the l > ast 200 hours, it would be a good idea to do so. >>> >>> Also check the log book to see if the collet seals have been replaced in t > he last 600-750 hours. Again, if there is no record of it being done, it wou > ld be recommended they be replaced as well. >>> >>> Dennis >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>> On Oct 10, 2019, at 10:05 AM, Okanogan Lew <vplewis@community.org> wrot > e: >>>> > ity.org> >>>> >>>> Guys, I have noticed a heavy grease seeping from the propeller hub onto > the blades of on my CJ6. I assume there is a seal that needs to be replaced > . Any info would be greatly appreciated. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Read this topic online here: >>>> >>>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=491734#491734 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> ========= >>> List" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navig > ator?Yak-List >>> ========= >>> FORUMS - >>> eferrer" target="_blank">http://forums.matronics.com >>> ========= >>> WIKI - >>> errer" target="_blank">http://wiki.matronics.com >>> ========= >>> b Site - >>> -Matt Dralle, List Admin. >>> rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contributio > n >>> ========= >>> >>> >>> > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ > > > Time: 10:57:27 AM PST US > Subject: Yak-List: Re: Oil Temp/Oil Press/Fuel Press Triple gauge > From: "727gs" <727gs@att.net> > > > Are the Chinese and Russian gauges interchangeable? > > -------- > Steve near Chicago > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=491774#491774 > > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ > > > Time: 11:21:57 AM PST US > From: "A. Dennis Savarese" <dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net> > Subject: Re: Yak-List: CJ6 prop blade leakage > > If you're talking about the collet seals, yes.=C2- Then the blade angles > have to be reset.=C2- If you're talking about the seals in the prop hub > piston, no.=C2- To grease the bearings, you loosen the large castellated > nuts on each side and remove the entire assembly from the hub.=C2- What r > emains in the hub is one flat bearing, one race and a slider.=C2- Each si > de is the same.=C2- The other flat bearing is on the assembly you removed > .Dennis > > On Friday, October 11, 2019, 10:11:01 AM EDT, Paul Lewis <okanoganlew@g > mail.com> wrote: > > Thanks Dennis, do the blades have to be removed to install the seals?=C2 > - My A&P has no idea. > On Thu, Oct 10, 2019 at 5:42 PM Anthony Savarese <dsavarese0812@bellsouth.n > et> wrote: > > et> > > First determine if there is oil inside the hub when you pull the prop hum d > ome and piston. If there is, replace both the inner and outer seal on the p > iston. > > Oil inside the hub will spew out on to the blade roots when the prop is spi > nning. Oil inside the hub is caused by a weak inner piston seal.=C2- > > Check your log books for the last time the hub was disassembled, cleaned an > d all bearings and races regreased. If it hasn=99t been done in the l > ast 200 hours, it would be a good idea to do so. > > Also check the log book to see if the collet seals have been replaced in th > e last 600-750 hours. Again, if there is no record of it being done, it wou > ld be recommended they be replaced as well. > > Dennis > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Oct 10, 2019, at 10:05 AM, Okanogan Lew <vplewis@community.org> wrote: >> > y.org> >> >> Guys, I have noticed a heavy grease seeping from the propeller hub onto t > he blades of on my CJ6. I assume there is a seal that needs to be replaced. > Any info would be greatly appreciated. >> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=491734#491734 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > List" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigat > or?Yak-List > FORUMS - > eferrer" target="_blank">http://forums.matronics.com > WIKI - > errer" target="_blank">http://wiki.matronics.com > b Site - > =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- -Matt Dralle, List Admin. > rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution > > > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ > > > Time: 11:38:30 AM PST US > From: Paul Lewis <okanoganlew@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: Yak-List: CJ6 prop blade leakage > > Very helpful, thanks. > > On Fri, Oct 11, 2019 at 11:26 AM A. Dennis Savarese < > dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net> wrote: > >> If you're talking about the collet seals, yes. Then the blade angles hav > e >> to be reset. If you're talking about the seals in the prop hub piston, >> no. To grease the bearings, you loosen the large castellated nuts on eac > h >> side and remove the entire assembly from the hub. What remains in the hu > b >> is one flat bearing, one race and a slider. Each side is the same. The >> other flat bearing is on the assembly you removed. >> Dennis >> >> On Friday, October 11, 2019, 10:11:01 AM EDT, Paul Lewis < >> okanoganlew@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> Thanks Dennis, do the blades have to be removed to install the seals? My >> A&P has no idea. >> >> On Thu, Oct 10, 2019 at 5:42 PM Anthony Savarese < >> dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net> wrote: >> >> dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net> >> >> First determine if there is oil inside the hub when you pull the prop hum >> dome and piston. If there is, replace both the inner and outer seal on th > e >> piston. >> >> Oil inside the hub will spew out on to the blade roots when the prop is >> spinning. Oil inside the hub is caused by a weak inner piston seal. >> >> Check your log books for the last time the hub was disassembled, cleaned >> and all bearings and races regreased. If it hasn=99t been done in t > he last >> 200 hours, it would be a good idea to do so. >> >> Also check the log book to see if the collet seals have been replaced in >> the last 600-750 hours. Again, if there is no record of it being done, it >> would be recommended they be replaced as well. >> >> Dennis >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Oct 10, 2019, at 10:05 AM, Okanogan Lew <vplewis@community.org> >> wrote: >>> > ity.org> >>> >>> Guys, I have noticed a heavy grease seeping from the propeller hub onto >> the blades of on my CJ6. I assume there is a seal that needs to be >> replaced. Any info would be greatly appreciated. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Read this topic online here: >>> >>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=491734#491734 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> ========= >> List" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"> >> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List >> ========= >> FORUMS - >> eferrer" target="_blank">http://forums.matronics.com >> ========= >> WIKI - >> errer" target="_blank">http://wiki.matronics.com >> ========= >> b Site - >> -Matt Dralle, List Admin. >> rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contributio > n >> ========= >> >> > > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ > > > Time: 02:26:38 PM PST US > From: Warren Hill <hill@doctor-hill.com> > Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: Oil Temp/Oil Press/Fuel Press Triple gauge > > > If you are referring to the triple gauges yes. I have Russian triple gauges in > my CJ and they work fine. > > >> On Oct 11, 2019, at 10:57 AM, 727gs <727gs@att.net> wrote: >> >> >> Are the Chinese and Russian gauges interchangeable? >> >> -------- >> Steve near Chicago >> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=491774#491774 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ > > > Time: 02:48:26 PM PST US > From: Richard Kelley <rickkelleyfly@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: Oil Temp/Oil Press/Fuel Press Triple gauge > > > I have a couple of those gauges at home from my CJ. If you need one call 210-787-0327 > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Oct 11, 2019, at 3:32 PM, Warren Hill <hill@doctor-hill.com> wrote: >> >> >> If you are referring to the triple gauges yes. I have Russian triple gauges in > my CJ and they work fine. >> >> >>>> On Oct 11, 2019, at 10:57 AM, 727gs <727gs@att.net> wrote: >>> >>> >>> Are the Chinese and Russian gauges interchangeable? >>> >>> -------- >>> Steve near Chicago >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Read this topic online here: >>> >>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=491774#491774 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > > > ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ > > > Time: 05:05:50 PM PST US > From: Paul Lewis <okanoganlew@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: Yak-List: CJ6 prop blade leakage > > I have removed one blade. What do you recommend for grease? > >> On Fri, Oct 11, 2019 at 11:36 AM Paul Lewis <okanoganlew@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Very helpful, thanks. >> >> On Fri, Oct 11, 2019 at 11:26 AM A. Dennis Savarese < >> dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net> wrote: >> >>> If you're talking about the collet seals, yes. Then the blade angles >>> have to be reset. If you're talking about the seals in the prop hub >>> piston, no. To grease the bearings, you loosen the large castellated nu > ts >>> on each side and remove the entire assembly from the hub. What remains > in >>> the hub is one flat bearing, one race and a slider. Each side is the >>> same. The other flat bearing is on the assembly you removed. >>> Dennis >>> >>> On Friday, October 11, 2019, 10:11:01 AM EDT, Paul Lewis < >>> okanoganlew@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> >>> Thanks Dennis, do the blades have to be removed to install the seals? M > y >>> A&P has no idea. >>> >>> On Thu, Oct 10, 2019 at 5:42 PM Anthony Savarese < >>> dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net> wrote: >>> >>> dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net> >>> >>> First determine if there is oil inside the hub when you pull the prop hu > m >>> dome and piston. If there is, replace both the inner and outer seal on t > he >>> piston. >>> >>> Oil inside the hub will spew out on to the blade roots when the prop is >>> spinning. Oil inside the hub is caused by a weak inner piston seal. >>> >>> Check your log books for the last time the hub was disassembled, cleaned >>> and all bearings and races regreased. If it hasn=99t been done in > the last >>> 200 hours, it would be a good idea to do so. >>> >>> Also check the log book to see if the collet seals have been replaced in >>> the last 600-750 hours. Again, if there is no record of it being done, i > t >>> would be recommended they be replaced as well. >>> >>> Dennis >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>> On Oct 10, 2019, at 10:05 AM, Okanogan Lew <vplewis@community.org> >>> wrote: >>>> > nity.org> >>>> >>>> Guys, I have noticed a heavy grease seeping from the propeller hub ont > o >>> the blades of on my CJ6. I assume there is a seal that needs to be >>> replaced. Any info would be greatly appreciated. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Read this topic online here: >>>> >>>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=491734#491734 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> ========= >>> List" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"> >>> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List >>> ========= >>> FORUMS - >>> eferrer" target="_blank">http://forums.matronics.com >>> ========= >>> WIKI - >>> errer" target="_blank">http://wiki.matronics.com >>> ========= >>> b Site - >>> -Matt Dralle, List Admin. >>> rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contributi > on >>> ========= >>> >>> >>> >>> > > ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ > > > Time: 06:09:24 PM PST US > From: Anthony Savarese <dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net> > Subject: Re: Yak-List: CJ6 prop blade leakage > > Aeroshell #5 is good. > Dennis > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Oct 11, 2019, at 8:07 PM, Paul Lewis <okanoganlew@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> =EF=BB >> I have removed one blade. What do you recommend for grease? >> >>> On Fri, Oct 11, 2019 at 11:36 AM Paul Lewis <okanoganlew@gmail.com> wrote > : >>> Very helpful, thanks. >>> >>>> On Fri, Oct 11, 2019 at 11:26 AM A. Dennis Savarese <dsavarese0812@bells > outh.net> wrote: >>>> If you're talking about the collet seals, yes. Then the blade angles ha > ve to be reset. If you're talking about the seals in the prop hub piston, n > o. To grease the bearings, you loosen the large castellated nuts on each si > de and remove the entire assembly from the hub. What remains in the hub is o > ne flat bearing, one race and a slider. Each side is the same. The other f > lat bearing is on the assembly you removed. >>>> Dennis >>>> >>>> On Friday, October 11, 2019, 10:11:01 AM EDT, Paul Lewis <okanoganlew@gm > ail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> Thanks Dennis, do the blades have to be removed to install the seals? M > y A&P has no idea. >>>> >>>> On Thu, Oct 10, 2019 at 5:42 PM Anthony Savarese <dsavarese0812@bellsout > h.net> wrote: > h.net> >>>> >>>> First determine if there is oil inside the hub when you pull the prop hu > m dome and piston. If there is, replace both the inner and outer seal on the > piston. >>>> >>>> Oil inside the hub will spew out on to the blade roots when the prop is s > pinning. Oil inside the hub is caused by a weak inner piston seal. >>>> >>>> Check your log books for the last time the hub was disassembled, cleaned > and all bearings and races regreased. If it hasn=99t been done in the > last 200 hours, it would be a good idea to do so. >>>> >>>> Also check the log book to see if the collet seals have been replaced in > the last 600-750 hours. Again, if there is no record of it being done, it w > ould be recommended they be replaced as well. >>>> >>>> Dennis >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>>> On Oct 10, 2019, at 10:05 AM, Okanogan Lew <vplewis@community.org> wro > te: >>>>> > nity.org> >>>>> >>>>> Guys, I have noticed a heavy grease seeping from the propeller hub ont > o the blades of on my CJ6. I assume there is a seal that needs to be replace > d. Any info would be greatly appreciated. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Read this topic online here: >>>>> >>>>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=491734#491734 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ========= >>>> List" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navi > gator?Yak-List >>>> ========= >>>> FORUMS - >>>> eferrer" target="_blank">http://forums.matronics.com >>>> ========= >>>> WIKI - >>>> errer" target="_blank">http://wiki.matronics.com >>>> ========= >>>> b Site - >>>> -Matt Dralle, List Admin. >>>> rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contributi > on >>>> ========= >>>> >>>> >>>> > > ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ > > > Time: 07:38:52 PM PST US > From: Paul Lewis <okanoganlew@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: Yak-List: CJ6 prop blade leakage > > I noticed that the castle nuts on my prop have rows of drilled & tapped > holes, but no screws installed. Photo's of other Housai props show screws > installed & safety wired. Is my CJ missing a prop piece? Thanks. > > Paul > > On Fri, Oct 11, 2019 at 6:13 PM Anthony Savarese < > dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net> wrote: > >> Aeroshell #5 is good. >> Dennis >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Oct 11, 2019, at 8:07 PM, Paul Lewis <okanoganlew@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> =EF=BB >> I have removed one blade. What do you recommend for grease? >> >>> On Fri, Oct 11, 2019 at 11:36 AM Paul Lewis <okanoganlew@gmail.com> wrote >> : >> >>> Very helpful, thanks. >>> >>> On Fri, Oct 11, 2019 at 11:26 AM A. Dennis Savarese < >>> dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net> wrote: >>> >>>> If you're talking about the collet seals, yes. Then the blade angles >>>> have to be reset. If you're talking about the seals in the prop hub >>>> piston, no. To grease the bearings, you loosen the large castellated n > uts >>>> on each side and remove the entire assembly from the hub. What remains > in >>>> the hub is one flat bearing, one race and a slider. Each side is the >>>> same. The other flat bearing is on the assembly you removed. >>>> Dennis >>>> >>>> On Friday, October 11, 2019, 10:11:01 AM EDT, Paul Lewis < >>>> okanoganlew@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> Thanks Dennis, do the blades have to be removed to install the seals? >>>> My A&P has no idea. >>>> >>>> On Thu, Oct 10, 2019 at 5:42 PM Anthony Savarese < >>>> dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net> wrote: >>>> >>>> dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net> >>>> >>>> First determine if there is oil inside the hub when you pull the prop >>>> hum dome and piston. If there is, replace both the inner and outer seal > on >>>> the piston. >>>> >>>> Oil inside the hub will spew out on to the blade roots when the prop is >>>> spinning. Oil inside the hub is caused by a weak inner piston seal. >>>> >>>> Check your log books for the last time the hub was disassembled, cleane > d >>>> and all bearings and races regreased. If it hasn=99t been done in > the last >>>> 200 hours, it would be a good idea to do so. >>>> >>>> Also check the log book to see if the collet seals have been replaced i > n >>>> the last 600-750 hours. Again, if there is no record of it being done, > it >>>> would be recommended they be replaced as well. >>>> >>>> Dennis >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>>> On Oct 10, 2019, at 10:05 AM, Okanogan Lew <vplewis@community.org> >>>> wrote: >>>>> > unity.org >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Guys, I have noticed a heavy grease seeping from the propeller hub >>>> onto the blades of on my CJ6. I assume there is a seal that needs to be >>>> replaced. Any info would be greatly appreciated. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Read this topic online here: >>>>> >>>>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=491734#491734 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ========= >>>> List" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"> >>>> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List >>>> ========= >>>> FORUMS - >>>> eferrer" target="_blank">http://forums.matronics.com >>>> ========= >>>> WIKI - >>>> errer" target="_blank">http://wiki.matronics.com >>>> ========= >>>> b Site - >>>> -Matt Dralle, List Admin. >>>> rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribut > ion >>>> ========= >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> > > > > > > >


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    Time: 11:07:29 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Yak-List Digest: 12 Msgs - 10/11/19
    From: BILL TILEY <yakflyer@aol.com>
    Has anyone seen Yak 52TW N57AZ? Letters to the registered owner returned as Unknown - Incorrect Address. I bought this Yak new in 2003. Registered it at my resident Airpark... N57AZ. Interested in buying it back. Bill Tiley (Tylee) yakflyer@aol.com Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 11, 2019, at 11:51 PM, Yak-List Digest Server <yak-list@matronics.com> wrote: > > * > > ================================================= > Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive > ================================================= > > Today's complete Yak-List Digest can also be found in either of the > two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted > in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes > and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version > of the Yak-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor > such as Notepad or with a web browser. > > HTML Version: > > http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=html&Chapter 19-10-11&Archive=Yak > > Text Version: > > http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=txt&Chapter 19-10-11&Archive=Yak > > > =============================================== > EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive > =============================================== > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > Yak-List Digest Archive > --- > Total Messages Posted Fri 10/11/19: 12 > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > > Today's Message Index: > ---------------------- > > 1. 02:00 AM - Re: Oil Temp/Oil Press/Fuel Press Triple gauge (727gs) > 2. 03:22 AM - Re: Oil Temp/Oil Press/Fuel Press Triple gauge (Harv) > 3. 07:09 AM - Re: CJ6 prop blade leakage (Paul Lewis) > 4. 09:01 AM - Re: CJ6 prop blade leakage (Larry Pine) > 5. 10:57 AM - Re: Oil Temp/Oil Press/Fuel Press Triple gauge (727gs) > 6. 11:21 AM - Re: CJ6 prop blade leakage (A. Dennis Savarese) > 7. 11:38 AM - Re: CJ6 prop blade leakage (Paul Lewis) > 8. 02:26 PM - Re: Re: Oil Temp/Oil Press/Fuel Press Triple gauge (Warren Hill) > 9. 02:48 PM - Re: Re: Oil Temp/Oil Press/Fuel Press Triple gauge (Richard Kelley) > 10. 05:05 PM - Re: CJ6 prop blade leakage (Paul Lewis) > 11. 06:09 PM - Re: CJ6 prop blade leakage (Anthony Savarese) > 12. 07:38 PM - Re: CJ6 prop blade leakage (Paul Lewis) > > > > ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ > > > Time: 02:00:29 AM PST US > Subject: Yak-List: Re: Oil Temp/Oil Press/Fuel Press Triple gauge > From: "727gs" <727gs@att.net> > > > This is a CJ. I forgot to mention it. > > I swapped the rear triple gauge with the front and the problem stayed with the > gauge so I'm satisfied that it is the rear gauge. As for the carb temp, I had > an old spare but was unsure if it was any good. Both maxed out high. Couldn't > find the temp probe on the carb, either. > > Steve > > -------- > Steve near Chicago > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=491766#491766 > > > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ > > > Time: 03:22:56 AM PST US > Subject: Yak-List: Re: Oil Temp/Oil Press/Fuel Press Triple gauge > From: "Harv" <martin.harvey@kbr.com> > > > The air temp probe isn't really part of the carb, is located on the airbox ducting > just behind the air intake mesh filter screen. If you drop the lower engine > cowling you should see it mounted horizontally from the left hand side in the > airbox (as viewed standing in front of the AC) > > Rgs > Harv > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=491767#491767 > > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ > > > Time: 07:09:23 AM PST US > From: Paul Lewis <okanoganlew@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: Yak-List: CJ6 prop blade leakage > > Thanks Dennis, do the blades have to be removed to install the seals? My > A&P has no idea. > >> On Thu, Oct 10, 2019 at 5:42 PM Anthony Savarese < >> dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net> wrote: >> >> dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net> >> >> First determine if there is oil inside the hub when you pull the prop hum >> dome and piston. If there is, replace both the inner and outer seal on th > e >> piston. >> >> Oil inside the hub will spew out on to the blade roots when the prop is >> spinning. Oil inside the hub is caused by a weak inner piston seal. >> >> Check your log books for the last time the hub was disassembled, cleaned >> and all bearings and races regreased. If it hasn=99t been done in t > he last >> 200 hours, it would be a good idea to do so. >> >> Also check the log book to see if the collet seals have been replaced in >> the last 600-750 hours. Again, if there is no record of it being done, it >> would be recommended they be replaced as well. >> >> Dennis >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Oct 10, 2019, at 10:05 AM, Okanogan Lew <vplewis@community.org> >> wrote: >>> > ity.org> >>> >>> Guys, I have noticed a heavy grease seeping from the propeller hub onto >> the blades of on my CJ6. I assume there is a seal that needs to be >> replaced. Any info would be greatly appreciated. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Read this topic online here: >>> >>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=491734#491734 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> > ========== > ========== > ========== > ========== > ========== >> >> > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ > > > Time: 09:01:19 AM PST US > From: Larry Pine <threein60@yahoo.com> > Subject: Re: Yak-List: CJ6 prop blade leakage > > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Oct 11, 2019, at 7:07 AM, Paul Lewis <okanoganlew@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Thanks Dennis, do the blades have to be removed to install the seals? My A > &P has no idea. >> >>> On Thu, Oct 10, 2019 at 5:42 PM Anthony Savarese <dsavarese0812@bellsouth > .net> wrote: > .net> >>> >>> First determine if there is oil inside the hub when you pull the prop hum > dome and piston. If there is, replace both the inner and outer seal on the p > iston. >>> >>> Oil inside the hub will spew out on to the blade roots when the prop is s > pinning. Oil inside the hub is caused by a weak inner piston seal. >>> >>> Check your log books for the last time the hub was disassembled, cleaned a > nd all bearings and races regreased. If it hasn=99t been done in the l > ast 200 hours, it would be a good idea to do so. >>> >>> Also check the log book to see if the collet seals have been replaced in t > he last 600-750 hours. Again, if there is no record of it being done, it wou > ld be recommended they be replaced as well. >>> >>> Dennis >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>> On Oct 10, 2019, at 10:05 AM, Okanogan Lew <vplewis@community.org> wrot > e: >>>> > ity.org> >>>> >>>> Guys, I have noticed a heavy grease seeping from the propeller hub onto > the blades of on my CJ6. I assume there is a seal that needs to be replaced > . Any info would be greatly appreciated. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Read this topic online here: >>>> >>>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=491734#491734 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> ========= >>> List" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navig > ator?Yak-List >>> ========= >>> FORUMS - >>> eferrer" target="_blank">http://forums.matronics.com >>> ========= >>> WIKI - >>> errer" target="_blank">http://wiki.matronics.com >>> ========= >>> b Site - >>> -Matt Dralle, List Admin. >>> rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contributio > n >>> ========= >>> >>> >>> > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ > > > Time: 10:57:27 AM PST US > Subject: Yak-List: Re: Oil Temp/Oil Press/Fuel Press Triple gauge > From: "727gs" <727gs@att.net> > > > Are the Chinese and Russian gauges interchangeable? > > -------- > Steve near Chicago > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=491774#491774 > > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ > > > Time: 11:21:57 AM PST US > From: "A. Dennis Savarese" <dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net> > Subject: Re: Yak-List: CJ6 prop blade leakage > > If you're talking about the collet seals, yes.=C2- Then the blade angles > have to be reset.=C2- If you're talking about the seals in the prop hub > piston, no.=C2- To grease the bearings, you loosen the large castellated > nuts on each side and remove the entire assembly from the hub.=C2- What r > emains in the hub is one flat bearing, one race and a slider.=C2- Each si > de is the same.=C2- The other flat bearing is on the assembly you removed > .Dennis > > On Friday, October 11, 2019, 10:11:01 AM EDT, Paul Lewis <okanoganlew@g > mail.com> wrote: > > Thanks Dennis, do the blades have to be removed to install the seals?=C2 > - My A&P has no idea. > On Thu, Oct 10, 2019 at 5:42 PM Anthony Savarese <dsavarese0812@bellsouth.n > et> wrote: > > et> > > First determine if there is oil inside the hub when you pull the prop hum d > ome and piston. If there is, replace both the inner and outer seal on the p > iston. > > Oil inside the hub will spew out on to the blade roots when the prop is spi > nning. Oil inside the hub is caused by a weak inner piston seal.=C2- > > Check your log books for the last time the hub was disassembled, cleaned an > d all bearings and races regreased. If it hasn=99t been done in the l > ast 200 hours, it would be a good idea to do so. > > Also check the log book to see if the collet seals have been replaced in th > e last 600-750 hours. Again, if there is no record of it being done, it wou > ld be recommended they be replaced as well. > > Dennis > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Oct 10, 2019, at 10:05 AM, Okanogan Lew <vplewis@community.org> wrote: >> > y.org> >> >> Guys, I have noticed a heavy grease seeping from the propeller hub onto t > he blades of on my CJ6. I assume there is a seal that needs to be replaced. > Any info would be greatly appreciated. >> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=491734#491734 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > List" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigat > or?Yak-List > FORUMS - > eferrer" target="_blank">http://forums.matronics.com > WIKI - > errer" target="_blank">http://wiki.matronics.com > b Site - > =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- -Matt Dralle, List Admin. > rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution > > > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ > > > Time: 11:38:30 AM PST US > From: Paul Lewis <okanoganlew@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: Yak-List: CJ6 prop blade leakage > > Very helpful, thanks. > > On Fri, Oct 11, 2019 at 11:26 AM A. Dennis Savarese < > dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net> wrote: > >> If you're talking about the collet seals, yes. Then the blade angles hav > e >> to be reset. If you're talking about the seals in the prop hub piston, >> no. To grease the bearings, you loosen the large castellated nuts on eac > h >> side and remove the entire assembly from the hub. What remains in the hu > b >> is one flat bearing, one race and a slider. Each side is the same. The >> other flat bearing is on the assembly you removed. >> Dennis >> >> On Friday, October 11, 2019, 10:11:01 AM EDT, Paul Lewis < >> okanoganlew@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> Thanks Dennis, do the blades have to be removed to install the seals? My >> A&P has no idea. >> >> On Thu, Oct 10, 2019 at 5:42 PM Anthony Savarese < >> dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net> wrote: >> >> dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net> >> >> First determine if there is oil inside the hub when you pull the prop hum >> dome and piston. If there is, replace both the inner and outer seal on th > e >> piston. >> >> Oil inside the hub will spew out on to the blade roots when the prop is >> spinning. Oil inside the hub is caused by a weak inner piston seal. >> >> Check your log books for the last time the hub was disassembled, cleaned >> and all bearings and races regreased. If it hasn=99t been done in t > he last >> 200 hours, it would be a good idea to do so. >> >> Also check the log book to see if the collet seals have been replaced in >> the last 600-750 hours. Again, if there is no record of it being done, it >> would be recommended they be replaced as well. >> >> Dennis >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Oct 10, 2019, at 10:05 AM, Okanogan Lew <vplewis@community.org> >> wrote: >>> > ity.org> >>> >>> Guys, I have noticed a heavy grease seeping from the propeller hub onto >> the blades of on my CJ6. I assume there is a seal that needs to be >> replaced. Any info would be greatly appreciated. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Read this topic online here: >>> >>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=491734#491734 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> ========= >> List" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"> >> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List >> ========= >> FORUMS - >> eferrer" target="_blank">http://forums.matronics.com >> ========= >> WIKI - >> errer" target="_blank">http://wiki.matronics.com >> ========= >> b Site - >> -Matt Dralle, List Admin. >> rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contributio > n >> ========= >> >> > > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ > > > Time: 02:26:38 PM PST US > From: Warren Hill <hill@doctor-hill.com> > Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: Oil Temp/Oil Press/Fuel Press Triple gauge > > > If you are referring to the triple gauges yes. I have Russian triple gauges in > my CJ and they work fine. > > >> On Oct 11, 2019, at 10:57 AM, 727gs <727gs@att.net> wrote: >> >> >> Are the Chinese and Russian gauges interchangeable? >> >> -------- >> Steve near Chicago >> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=491774#491774 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ > > > Time: 02:48:26 PM PST US > From: Richard Kelley <rickkelleyfly@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: Oil Temp/Oil Press/Fuel Press Triple gauge > > > I have a couple of those gauges at home from my CJ. If you need one call 210-787-0327 > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Oct 11, 2019, at 3:32 PM, Warren Hill <hill@doctor-hill.com> wrote: >> >> >> If you are referring to the triple gauges yes. I have Russian triple gauges in > my CJ and they work fine. >> >> >>>> On Oct 11, 2019, at 10:57 AM, 727gs <727gs@att.net> wrote: >>> >>> >>> Are the Chinese and Russian gauges interchangeable? >>> >>> -------- >>> Steve near Chicago >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Read this topic online here: >>> >>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=491774#491774 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > > > ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ > > > Time: 05:05:50 PM PST US > From: Paul Lewis <okanoganlew@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: Yak-List: CJ6 prop blade leakage > > I have removed one blade. What do you recommend for grease? > >> On Fri, Oct 11, 2019 at 11:36 AM Paul Lewis <okanoganlew@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Very helpful, thanks. >> >> On Fri, Oct 11, 2019 at 11:26 AM A. Dennis Savarese < >> dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net> wrote: >> >>> If you're talking about the collet seals, yes. Then the blade angles >>> have to be reset. If you're talking about the seals in the prop hub >>> piston, no. To grease the bearings, you loosen the large castellated nu > ts >>> on each side and remove the entire assembly from the hub. What remains > in >>> the hub is one flat bearing, one race and a slider. Each side is the >>> same. The other flat bearing is on the assembly you removed. >>> Dennis >>> >>> On Friday, October 11, 2019, 10:11:01 AM EDT, Paul Lewis < >>> okanoganlew@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> >>> Thanks Dennis, do the blades have to be removed to install the seals? M > y >>> A&P has no idea. >>> >>> On Thu, Oct 10, 2019 at 5:42 PM Anthony Savarese < >>> dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net> wrote: >>> >>> dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net> >>> >>> First determine if there is oil inside the hub when you pull the prop hu > m >>> dome and piston. If there is, replace both the inner and outer seal on t > he >>> piston. >>> >>> Oil inside the hub will spew out on to the blade roots when the prop is >>> spinning. Oil inside the hub is caused by a weak inner piston seal. >>> >>> Check your log books for the last time the hub was disassembled, cleaned >>> and all bearings and races regreased. If it hasn=99t been done in > the last >>> 200 hours, it would be a good idea to do so. >>> >>> Also check the log book to see if the collet seals have been replaced in >>> the last 600-750 hours. Again, if there is no record of it being done, i > t >>> would be recommended they be replaced as well. >>> >>> Dennis >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>> On Oct 10, 2019, at 10:05 AM, Okanogan Lew <vplewis@community.org> >>> wrote: >>>> > nity.org> >>>> >>>> Guys, I have noticed a heavy grease seeping from the propeller hub ont > o >>> the blades of on my CJ6. I assume there is a seal that needs to be >>> replaced. Any info would be greatly appreciated. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Read this topic online here: >>>> >>>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=491734#491734 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> ========= >>> List" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"> >>> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List >>> ========= >>> FORUMS - >>> eferrer" target="_blank">http://forums.matronics.com >>> ========= >>> WIKI - >>> errer" target="_blank">http://wiki.matronics.com >>> ========= >>> b Site - >>> -Matt Dralle, List Admin. >>> rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contributi > on >>> ========= >>> >>> >>> >>> > > ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ > > > Time: 06:09:24 PM PST US > From: Anthony Savarese <dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net> > Subject: Re: Yak-List: CJ6 prop blade leakage > > Aeroshell #5 is good. > Dennis > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Oct 11, 2019, at 8:07 PM, Paul Lewis <okanoganlew@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> =EF=BB >> I have removed one blade. What do you recommend for grease? >> >>> On Fri, Oct 11, 2019 at 11:36 AM Paul Lewis <okanoganlew@gmail.com> wrote > : >>> Very helpful, thanks. >>> >>>> On Fri, Oct 11, 2019 at 11:26 AM A. Dennis Savarese <dsavarese0812@bells > outh.net> wrote: >>>> If you're talking about the collet seals, yes. Then the blade angles ha > ve to be reset. If you're talking about the seals in the prop hub piston, n > o. To grease the bearings, you loosen the large castellated nuts on each si > de and remove the entire assembly from the hub. What remains in the hub is o > ne flat bearing, one race and a slider. Each side is the same. The other f > lat bearing is on the assembly you removed. >>>> Dennis >>>> >>>> On Friday, October 11, 2019, 10:11:01 AM EDT, Paul Lewis <okanoganlew@gm > ail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> Thanks Dennis, do the blades have to be removed to install the seals? M > y A&P has no idea. >>>> >>>> On Thu, Oct 10, 2019 at 5:42 PM Anthony Savarese <dsavarese0812@bellsout > h.net> wrote: > h.net> >>>> >>>> First determine if there is oil inside the hub when you pull the prop hu > m dome and piston. If there is, replace both the inner and outer seal on the > piston. >>>> >>>> Oil inside the hub will spew out on to the blade roots when the prop is s > pinning. Oil inside the hub is caused by a weak inner piston seal. >>>> >>>> Check your log books for the last time the hub was disassembled, cleaned > and all bearings and races regreased. If it hasn=99t been done in the > last 200 hours, it would be a good idea to do so. >>>> >>>> Also check the log book to see if the collet seals have been replaced in > the last 600-750 hours. Again, if there is no record of it being done, it w > ould be recommended they be replaced as well. >>>> >>>> Dennis >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>>> On Oct 10, 2019, at 10:05 AM, Okanogan Lew <vplewis@community.org> wro > te: >>>>> > nity.org> >>>>> >>>>> Guys, I have noticed a heavy grease seeping from the propeller hub ont > o the blades of on my CJ6. I assume there is a seal that needs to be replace > d. Any info would be greatly appreciated. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Read this topic online here: >>>>> >>>>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=491734#491734 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ========= >>>> List" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navi > gator?Yak-List >>>> ========= >>>> FORUMS - >>>> eferrer" target="_blank">http://forums.matronics.com >>>> ========= >>>> WIKI - >>>> errer" target="_blank">http://wiki.matronics.com >>>> ========= >>>> b Site - >>>> -Matt Dralle, List Admin. >>>> rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contributi > on >>>> ========= >>>> >>>> >>>> > > ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ > > > Time: 07:38:52 PM PST US > From: Paul Lewis <okanoganlew@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: Yak-List: CJ6 prop blade leakage > > I noticed that the castle nuts on my prop have rows of drilled & tapped > holes, but no screws installed. Photo's of other Housai props show screws > installed & safety wired. Is my CJ missing a prop piece? Thanks. > > Paul > > On Fri, Oct 11, 2019 at 6:13 PM Anthony Savarese < > dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net> wrote: > >> Aeroshell #5 is good. >> Dennis >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Oct 11, 2019, at 8:07 PM, Paul Lewis <okanoganlew@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> =EF=BB >> I have removed one blade. What do you recommend for grease? >> >>> On Fri, Oct 11, 2019 at 11:36 AM Paul Lewis <okanoganlew@gmail.com> wrote >> : >> >>> Very helpful, thanks. >>> >>> On Fri, Oct 11, 2019 at 11:26 AM A. Dennis Savarese < >>> dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net> wrote: >>> >>>> If you're talking about the collet seals, yes. Then the blade angles >>>> have to be reset. If you're talking about the seals in the prop hub >>>> piston, no. To grease the bearings, you loosen the large castellated n > uts >>>> on each side and remove the entire assembly from the hub. What remains > in >>>> the hub is one flat bearing, one race and a slider. Each side is the >>>> same. The other flat bearing is on the assembly you removed. >>>> Dennis >>>> >>>> On Friday, October 11, 2019, 10:11:01 AM EDT, Paul Lewis < >>>> okanoganlew@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> Thanks Dennis, do the blades have to be removed to install the seals? >>>> My A&P has no idea. >>>> >>>> On Thu, Oct 10, 2019 at 5:42 PM Anthony Savarese < >>>> dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net> wrote: >>>> >>>> dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net> >>>> >>>> First determine if there is oil inside the hub when you pull the prop >>>> hum dome and piston. If there is, replace both the inner and outer seal > on >>>> the piston. >>>> >>>> Oil inside the hub will spew out on to the blade roots when the prop is >>>> spinning. Oil inside the hub is caused by a weak inner piston seal. >>>> >>>> Check your log books for the last time the hub was disassembled, cleane > d >>>> and all bearings and races regreased. If it hasn=99t been done in > the last >>>> 200 hours, it would be a good idea to do so. >>>> >>>> Also check the log book to see if the collet seals have been replaced i > n >>>> the last 600-750 hours. Again, if there is no record of it being done, > it >>>> would be recommended they be replaced as well. >>>> >>>> Dennis >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>>> On Oct 10, 2019, at 10:05 AM, Okanogan Lew <vplewis@community.org> >>>> wrote: >>>>> > unity.org >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Guys, I have noticed a heavy grease seeping from the propeller hub >>>> onto the blades of on my CJ6. I assume there is a seal that needs to be >>>> replaced. Any info would be greatly appreciated. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Read this topic online here: >>>>> >>>>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=491734#491734 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ========= >>>> List" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"> >>>> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List >>>> ========= >>>> FORUMS - >>>> eferrer" target="_blank">http://forums.matronics.com >>>> ========= >>>> WIKI - >>>> errer" target="_blank">http://wiki.matronics.com >>>> ========= >>>> b Site - >>>> -Matt Dralle, List Admin. >>>> rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribut > ion >>>> ========= >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> > > > > > > >


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    Time: 12:30:50 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: CJ6 prop blade leakage
    From: "stephen.hayne" <stephen.hayne@gmail.com>
    Those "screws" hold balance weights. Best to start by leaving them off (unless you have an exact pic of how you took them off and marked the blades, etc.). Then, get a prop balancer and go for it. It will likely take many tries to get it under .04ips, which is what my buddy shoots for... Good article: https://www.aopa.org/news-and-media/all-news/2018/january/22/propeller-maintenance-balancing -------- - Stephen Hayne, Professor, CIS, Colorado State University 666CJA http://selfsynchronize.com/hayne/plane/cj6.asp Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=491786#491786


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    Time: 12:36:43 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Prolonged idling/taxiing
    From: "stephen.hayne" <stephen.hayne@gmail.com>
    If plug fouling is the concern, this can be "fixed" by decoupling the mixture from the throttle, and leaning aggressively on the ground. Takes about an hour, and some people reverse the arm on the carb so that it operates like a US mixture. After 80 hours unreversed, and making one almost mistake on a go-around (pushing everything forward), I think I going to do mine that way. -------- - Stephen Hayne, Professor, CIS, Colorado State University 666CJA http://selfsynchronize.com/hayne/plane/cj6.asp Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=491787#491787


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    From: "Mark Bitterlich" <markbitterlich@embarqmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Prolonged idling/taxiing
    Good advice, but M14P's do not generally come equipped with a manual mixture control. Mark -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com <owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com> On Behalf Of stephen.hayne Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2019 3:36 PM Subject: Yak-List: Re: Prolonged idling/taxiing --> <stephen.hayne@gmail.com> If plug fouling is the concern, this can be "fixed" by decoupling the mixture from the throttle, and leaning aggressively on the ground. Takes about an hour, and some people reverse the arm on the carb so that it operates like a US mixture. After 80 hours unreversed, and making one almost mistake on a go-around (pushing everything forward), I think I going to do mine that way. -------- - Stephen Hayne, Professor, CIS, Colorado State University 666CJA http://selfsynchronize.com/hayne/plane/cj6.asp Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=491787#491787


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    Time: 02:27:44 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Prolonged idling/taxiing
    From: "stephen.hayne" <stephen.hayne@gmail.com>
    Sorry! I had CJ and Housai on the brain... -------- - Stephen Hayne, Professor, CIS, Colorado State University 666CJA http://selfsynchronize.com/hayne/plane/cj6.asp Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=491789#491789




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