---------------------------------------------------------- Yak-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 12/31/19: 5 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 01:33 PM - Program Letter (HawkerPilot2015) 2. 02:27 PM - Re: Program Letter (World Aviation Museum) 3. 03:00 PM - Re: Program Letter (A. Dennis Savarese) 4. 05:04 PM - Re: Program Letter (Larry Pine) 5. 05:15 PM - Re: Program Letter (Tom Elliott) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 01:33:35 PM PST US Subject: Yak-List: Program Letter From: "HawkerPilot2015" So someone at the local FSDO is reading the regs and being a stickler. They want routes to and from events as well as "areas" used for training. What are you all doing and what about XC flights? Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=494126#494126 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 02:27:08 PM PST US From: World Aviation Museum Subject: Re: Yak-List: Program Letter GPS DIRECT > On Dec 31, 2019, at 3:38 PM, HawkerPilot2015 wrote: > > > So someone at the local FSDO is reading the regs and being a stickler. They want routes to and from events as well as "areas" used for training. What are you all doing and what about XC flights? > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=494126#494126 > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 03:00:24 PM PST US From: "A. Dennis Savarese" Subject: Re: Yak-List: Program Letter Absolujtely correct - GPS direct In 8130.2J, which governs the operation of experimental aircraft, including exhibition category, Appendix C,=C2- paragraph C-2, b.=C2- says:"b. Ex hibition. The program letter SHOULD - (the word "should" does not mean "mus t") (1) Provide event names and dates for the events at which the aircraft will be exhibited. (ENTER THE EVENTS YOU PLAN TO ATTEND) (2) Propose route(s) of flight to and from the events. GPS DIRECT (3)For proficiency and/or maintenance flights, include the estimated number of flight hours (ENTER HOW MANY HOURS PER YEAR YOU THINK YOU'LL FLY) and t he intended area (SELF EXPLANATORY IE: STATES OF XX, XX, XX, XX) and airpor ts in which the aircraft will be operated.(ANY PUBLIC OR PRIVATE AIRPORT WI THIN THE STATES INDICATED WITH A 2000 FT OR LONGER RUNWAY) Dennis On Tuesday, December 31, 2019, 5:28:58 PM EST, World Aviation Museum wrote: > =9CGPS DIRECT=9D > On Dec 31, 2019, at 3:38 PM, HawkerPilot2015 wrote : > ail.com> > > So someone at the local FSDO is reading the regs and being a stickler. Th ey want routes to and from events as well as "areas" used for training. Wha t are you all doing and what about XC flights? > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=494126#494126 > > > > > > > > > =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- -Matt Dralle, List Admin. S - WIKI - - =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- -Matt Dralle, List Admin. ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 05:04:24 PM PST US From: Larry Pine Subject: Re: Yak-List: Program Letter Remove the operating restriction from you operating limits. Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Tuesday, December 31, 2019, 14:58, A. Dennis Savarese wrote: Absolujtely correct - GPS direct In 8130.2J, which governs the operation of experimental aircraft, including exhibition category, Appendix C,=C2- paragraph C-2, b.=C2- says:"b. Ex hibition. The program letter SHOULD - (the word "should" does not mean "mus t") (1) Provide event names and dates for the events at which the aircraft will be exhibited. (ENTER THE EVENTS YOU PLAN TO ATTEND) (2) Propose route(s) of flight to and from the events. GPS DIRECT (3)For proficiency and/or maintenance flights, include the estimated number of flight hours (ENTER HOW MANY HOURS PER YEAR YOU THINK YOU'LL FLY) and t he intended area (SELF EXPLANATORY IE: STATES OF XX, XX, XX, XX) and airpor ts in which the aircraft will be operated.(ANY PUBLIC OR PRIVATE AIRPORT WI THIN THE STATES INDICATED WITH A 2000 FT OR LONGER RUNWAY) Dennis On Tuesday, December 31, 2019, 5:28:58 PM EST, World Aviation Museum wrote: > =9CGPS DIRECT=9D > On Dec 31, 2019, at 3:38 PM, HawkerPilot2015 wrote : > ail.com> > > So someone at the local FSDO is reading the regs and being a stickler. Th ey want routes to and from events as well as "areas" used for training. Wha t are you all doing and what about XC flights? > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=494126#494126 > > > > > > > > > ttp://www.matronics.co=C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2 - =C2- =C2- -Matt=C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- - The Yak-List Email For um - http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List Same great content also available via the Web Forums! http://forums.mat =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- - NEW MATRONICS LIST W IKI - http://wiki.matronics.com ======== ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 05:15:48 PM PST US From: "Tom Elliott" Subject: RE: Yak-List: Program Letter I do not understand this continuous rehash on program letters on where you can fly? The below is what I have put on my letter for many years. I only detail any actual air shows that I attend and or participate in as an unpaid performer. Never have I said what route I was taking. CJ6=99s and all versions of Yak 52=99s and many other experimental exhibition class aircraft fall in the category and class referred to in the attached info have NO area restrictions! You can fly anywhere at any time in the United States of America that any certified aircraft can. cid:image001.png@01D5BFFB.40E147E0 Tom Elliott CJ-6A NX63727 777 Quartz Ave PMB 7004 Sandy Valley NV. 89019 Cell 541-297-5497 N13472@AOL.COM From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of A. Dennis Savarese Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2019 2:59 PM Subject: Re: Yak-List: Program Letter Absolujtely correct - GPS direct In 8130.2J, which governs the operation of experimental aircraft, including exhibition category, Appendix C, paragraph C-2, b. says: "b. Exhibition. The program letter SHOULD - (the word "should" does not mean "must") (1) Provide event names and dates for the events at which the aircraft will be exhibited. (ENTER THE EVENTS YOU PLAN TO ATTEND) (2) Propose route(s) of flight to and from the events. GPS DIRECT (3)For proficiency and/or maintenance flights, include the estimated number of flight hours (ENTER HOW MANY HOURS PER YEAR YOU THINK YOU'LL FLY) and the intended area (SELF EXPLANATORY IE: STATES OF XX, XX, XX, XX) and airports in which the aircraft will be operated.(ANY PUBLIC OR PRIVATE AIRPORT WITHIN THE STATES INDICATED WITH A 2000 FT OR LONGER RUNWAY) Dennis On Tuesday, December 31, 2019, 5:28:58 PM EST, World Aviation Museum wrote: =9CGPS DIRECT=9D > On Dec 31, 2019, at 3:38 PM, HawkerPilot2015 wrote: > > > So someone at the local FSDO is reading the regs and being a stickler. They want routes to and from events as well as "areas" used for training. What are you all doing and what about XC flights? > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=494126#494126 > > > > > > > > > http://www.matronics.co -Matt - The Yak-List Email Forum - http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List Same great content also available via the Web Forums! http://forums.mat - NEW MATRONICS LIST WIKI - http://wiki.matronics.com ======== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message yak-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Yak-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/yak-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/yak-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.