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1. 04:33 AM - Re: Cleaning the engine (Justin Drafts)
2. 09:44 AM - Re: Cleaning the engine (Greg Wrobel)
3. 10:16 AM - Re: CJ6 aileron bearings (AlaskaChang801)
4. 11:33 AM - CJ project (Richard Kelley)
5. 11:46 AM - Re: Cleaning the engine (Walter Lannon)
6. 01:10 PM - Re: Re: CJ6 aileron bearings (Anthony Savarese)
7. 01:34 PM - Re: Re: CJ6 aileron bearings (William Geipel)
8. 01:54 PM - Re: Re: CJ6 aileron bearings (Mark Pennington)
9. 02:09 PM - Re: Re: CJ6 aileron bearings (Anthony Savarese)
10. 02:28 PM - Re: Re: CJ6 aileron bearings (Walter Lannon)
11. 03:55 PM - Re: Re: CJ6 aileron bearings (doug sapp)
12. 09:31 PM - Re: Cleaning the engine (Royden Heays)
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| Subject: | Re: Cleaning the engine |
I've had success with simple stoddard solvent, but that's just me.
Justin
N280NC
On Tue, Aug 25, 2020 at 7:36 AM 1906 <zmadwolf@gmail.com> wrote:
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> What is the preferred way to clean the engine, specifically
> cylinder/exhaust manifold/sump area? Given the leather/cloth in the area,
> are mineral spirits OK?
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> Thanks.
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| Subject: | Re: Cleaning the engine |
I use 100LL through a wand that has a pickup tube and use 80-90 psi from my
compressor that is part if the pickup tube system. Available at Harbor
Freigh. It melts the grease and evaporates before it hits the ground.
Water, and solvents can get into electical stuff and creates issues. So far
no issues with 100LL and have been using it for years. But remember, there
are a lot of opinions and you will need to listen to them and decide.
Greg "Clouddog" Wrobel
On Tue, Aug 25, 2020, 06:36 Justin Drafts <draftsjust417@gmail.com> wrote:
> I've had success with simple stoddard solvent, but that's just me.
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> Justin
> N280NC
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> On Tue, Aug 25, 2020 at 7:36 AM 1906 <zmadwolf@gmail.com> wrote:
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>> What is the preferred way to clean the engine, specifically
>> cylinder/exhaust manifold/sump area? Given the leather/cloth in the area,
>> are mineral spirits OK?
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>> Thanks.
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| Subject: | Re: CJ6 aileron bearings |
I just replaced my elevator bearings and from what I know they are the same as
the rudder and ailerons. I don't know the spec size, but I can tell you this!
They are the same bearings in the canopy rollers and therefore you can buy a set
of them fairly cheap from Todd Bohlman, you can find him on Ebay as that's
where he sells them or search for him on the Red Star Facebook page.
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CJ6 project. Complete aircraft. Striped ready for Assembly. Call Rick 210-787-0327
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| Subject: | Re: Cleaning the engine |
Greg;
I find that hard to believe.
You are one spark away from complete disaster. That spark could come from
a dropped wrench or a thousand other sources.
Please do a small experiment: Cut two small pieces of cloth. Soak one in
solvent (Stoddard, Varsol etc). In a safe location hold it up and light
one end. Well damn! It burns! with a whole lot of black smoke; ho hum!
Now do the same with the other soaked in avgas but this time hold it with
a pair of pliers. =9C Explodes=9D would probably be much bette
r way to describe the result.
I lost a friend many years ago who was fueling an aircraft by bucket in the
hangar. He, the aircraft and the hangar were very shortly gone!
Best;
Walt
Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2020 9:42 AM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Cleaning the engine
I use 100LL through a wand that has a pickup tube and use 80-90 psi from my
compressor that is part if the pickup tube system. Available at Harbor Fre
igh. It melts the grease and evaporates before it hits the ground. Water, a
nd solvents can get into electical stuff and creates issues. So far no issu
es with 100LL and have been using it for years. But remember, there are a l
ot of opinions and you will need to listen to them and decide.
Greg "Clouddog" Wrobel
On Tue, Aug 25, 2020, 06:36 Justin Drafts <draftsjust417@gmail.com> wrote:
I've had success with simple stoddard solvent, but that's just me.
Justin
N280NC
On Tue, Aug 25, 2020 at 7:36 AM 1906 <zmadwolf@gmail.com> wrote:
What is the preferred way to clean the engine, specifically cylinder/ex
haust manifold/sump area? Given the leather/cloth in the area, are mineral
spirits OK?
Thanks.
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| Subject: | Re: CJ6 aileron bearings |
The bearings are 6x19x6 mm self aligning bearings. They are available all over
the internet. Be sure to include self aligning bearing in your search.
Dennis
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> On Aug 25, 2020, at 1:18 PM, AlaskaChang801 <themilnes95@gmail.com> wrote:
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> I just replaced my elevator bearings and from what I know they are the same as
the rudder and ailerons. I don't know the spec size, but I can tell you this!
They are the same bearings in the canopy rollers and therefore you can buy a
set of them fairly cheap from Todd Bohlman, you can find him on Ebay as that's
where he sells them or search for him on the Red Star Facebook page.
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| Subject: | Re: CJ6 aileron bearings |
typed: 6x19x6 mm self aligning bearings- into google. Anywhere from $4
to $26 for the same thing.
> On Aug 25, 2020, at 3:07 PM, Anthony Savarese
<dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net> wrote:
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> The bearings are 6x19x6 mm self aligning bearings. They are available
all over the internet. Be sure to include =9Cself aligning
bearing=9D in your search.
> Dennis
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>> On Aug 25, 2020, at 1:18 PM, AlaskaChang801 <themilnes95@gmail.com>
wrote:
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>> I just replaced my elevator bearings and from what I know they are
the same as the rudder and ailerons. I don't know the spec size, but I
can tell you this! They are the same bearings in the canopy rollers and
therefore you can buy a set of them fairly cheap from Todd Bohlman, you
can find him on Ebay as that's where he sells them or search for him on
the Red Star Facebook page.
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>> Read this topic online here:
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>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=497975#497975
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| Subject: | Re: CJ6 aileron bearings |
Dennis makes a real good point. He gave me this information some time
ago. I wasn=99t sure why self aligning was so important.
Found out you are pretty much guaranteed a smooth non binding rotation.
Probably important. That is what the literature and the tech support
person at 123 bearing shared with me. He also suggested as many balls as
possible. (There is a joke in there for sure)
Those bearings are all over the plane.
The rigid bearing may be a mistake.
Mark
On Tue, Aug 25, 2020 at 4:15 PM Anthony Savarese <
dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net> wrote:
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| Subject: | Re: CJ6 aileron bearings |
No rigid bearing unless the original is rigid.
Dennis
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| Subject: | Re: CJ6 aileron bearings |
The rigid bearing is a mistake for the control surface hinges.
The correct self aligning bearing is a double row probably utilizing 14 (?)
1/8=9D balls. I may have the P/N in the hangar but not there right
now.
The self-aligning bearing is a mistake when utilized as a canopy roller.
Walt
From: Mark Pennington
Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2020 1:50 PM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: CJ6 aileron bearings
Dennis makes a real good point. He gave me this information some time ago.
I wasn=99t sure why self aligning was so important.
Found out you are pretty much guaranteed a smooth non binding rotation. Pr
obably important. That is what the literature and the tech support person
at 123 bearing shared with me. He also suggested as many balls as possibl
e. (There is a joke in there for sure)
Those bearings are all over the plane.
The rigid bearing may be a mistake.
Mark
On Tue, Aug 25, 2020 at 4:15 PM Anthony Savarese <dsavarese0812@bellsouth.n
et> wrote:
=2Enet>
The bearings are 6x19x6 mm self aligning bearings. They are available all
over the internet. Be sure to include =9Cself aligning bearing
=9D in your search.
Dennis
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> I just replaced my elevator bearings and from what I know they are the
same as the rudder and ailerons. I don't know the spec size, but I can tell
you this! They are the same bearings in the canopy rollers and therefore y
ou can buy a set of them fairly cheap from Todd Bohlman, you can find him o
n Ebay as that's where he sells them or search for him on the Red Star Face
book page.
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=497975#497975
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| Subject: | Re: CJ6 aileron bearings |
There are basically two sizes of self aligning bearings used in the CJ. I
normally have good stock on both.
Doug
On Tue, Aug 25, 2020 at 1:39 PM William Geipel <wamflight@gmail.com> wrote:
> typed: 6x19x6 mm self aligning bearings- into google. Anywhere from $4
> to $26 for the same thing.
>
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> On Aug 25, 2020, at 3:07 PM, Anthony Savarese <dsavarese0812@bellsouth.ne
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> The bearings are 6x19x6 mm self aligning bearings. They are available all
> over the internet. Be sure to include =9Cself aligning bearing
=9D in your
> search.
> Dennis
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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> On Aug 25, 2020, at 1:18 PM, AlaskaChang801 <themilnes95@gmail.com> wrote
:
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ail.com>
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> I just replaced my elevator bearings and from what I know they are the
> same as the rudder and ailerons. I don't know the spec size, but I can te
ll
> you this! They are the same bearings in the canopy rollers and therefore
> you can buy a set of them fairly cheap from Todd Bohlman, you can find hi
m
> on Ebay as that's where he sells them or search for him on the Red Star
> Facebook page.
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> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=497975#497975
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| Subject: | Cleaning the engine |
That's the scariest thing I have read on the list to date - sends shivers up
my spine.
Count yourself very lucky that you, your aircraft and hangar still exist.
The a/c maintenance shops who annual my Yak use Varsol - a practice which I
adopt for any DIY cleaning.
Be safe and switch to Varsol.
Royden
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[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Greg Wrobel
Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2020 9:43 AM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Cleaning the engine
I use 100LL through a wand that has a pickup tube and use 80-90 psi from my
compressor that is part if the pickup tube system. Available at Harbor
Freigh. It melts the grease and evaporates before it hits the ground. Water,
and solvents can get into electical stuff and creates issues. So far no
issues with 100LL and have been using it for years. But remember, there are
a lot of opinions and you will need to listen to them and decide.
Greg "Clouddog" Wrobel
On Tue, Aug 25, 2020, 06:36 Justin Drafts <draftsjust417@gmail.com
<mailto:draftsjust417@gmail.com> > wrote:
I've had success with simple stoddard solvent, but that's just me.
Justin
N280NC
On Tue, Aug 25, 2020 at 7:36 AM 1906 <zmadwolf@gmail.com
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What is the preferred way to clean the engine, specifically cylinder/exhaust
manifold/sump area? Given the leather/cloth in the area, are mineral spirits
OK?
Thanks.
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