---------------------------------------------------------- Yak-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 12/14/20: 6 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 12:15 PM - Re: Artificial horizon staying tilted after aerobatics. (easy_driver) 2. 03:02 PM - Re: Artificial horizon staying tilted after aerobatics. (Ttail) 3. 03:17 PM - Re: Artificial horizon staying tilted after aerobatics. (easy_driver) 4. 04:16 PM - Re: Re: Artificial horizon staying tilted after aerobatics. (Mark Bitterlich) 5. 05:18 PM - Re: Artificial horizon staying tilted after aerobatics. (easy_driver) 6. 05:24 PM - Re: Re: Artificial horizon staying tilted after aerobatics. (Anthony Savarese) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 12:15:19 PM PST US Subject: Yak-List: Re: Artificial horizon staying tilted after aerobatics. From: "easy_driver" something in that box went TU. could be electrolytic "vertical" sensor, correction mechanism switch or driving motor - to name a few. or you naughty boy exceeded 120d/s max roll rate Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=499666#499666 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 03:02:05 PM PST US Subject: Yak-List: Re: Artificial horizon staying tilted after aerobatics. From: "Ttail" "or you naughty boy exceeded 120d/s max roll rate" How do you get a Chang to do that ? -------- Sean Trestrail ttail[at]internode.on.net Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=499668#499668 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 03:17:56 PM PST US Subject: Yak-List: Re: Artificial horizon staying tilted after aerobatics. From: "easy_driver" let me guess - a snap roll at maneuvering speed ? Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=499669#499669 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 04:16:34 PM PST US Subject: RE: Yak-List: Re: Artificial horizon staying tilted after aerobatics. 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From: "easy_driver" this AGI-1 thing is not an average gyro. it was built for MiG-15 , that's why it is called "Avia Horizon for Fighter". but obviously like everything else has its age and design limits Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=499673#499673 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 05:24:58 PM PST US From: Anthony Savarese Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: Artificial horizon staying tilted after aerobatics. The Chinese gyro is virtually identical to the Russian gyro used in the 50 a nd 52. Dennis Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 14, 2020, at 7:18 PM, Mark Bitterlich wrote: > > =EF=BBI've never seen a mechanical gyro hold up to prolonged or repeate d aerobatics and be 100% accurate when finished. > > Solid state accelerometer based systems, or laser ring INS systems yes. Bu g Ole free spinning gyros not so much. > > But possibly the Chinese have a better model. Admittedly I have never flow n a CJ. But if it has a 4 gimbal gyro, maybe so. > > > > Mark > > -------- Original message -------- > From: easy_driver > Date: 12/14/20 6:21 PM (GMT-05:00) > To: yak-list@matronics.com > Subject: Yak-List: Re: Artificial horizon staying tilted after aerobatics. > > > let me guess - a snap roll at maneuvering speed ? > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=499669#499669 > > > > > > ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message yak-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Yak-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/yak-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/yak-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.