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1. 04:06 AM - Re: Re: intake/exhaust stack-to-cylinder rings... ? (Mark Pennington)
2. 05:47 AM - Re: Re: intake/exhaust stack-to-cylinder rings... ? (Richard Goode)
3. 06:45 AM - Re: Re: intake/exhaust stack-to-cylinder rings... ? (George)
4. 08:15 AM - Re: Re: intake/exhaust stack-to-cylinder rings... ? (Justin Drafts)
5. 09:34 AM - Re: Re: intake/exhaust stack-to-cylinder rings... ? (Walter Lannon)
6. 09:44 AM - Re: Re: intake/exhaust stack-to-cylinder rings... ? (Justin Drafts)
7. 09:48 AM - Re: Re: intake/exhaust stack-to-cylinder rings... ? (Mark Pennington)
8. 09:50 AM - Re: Re: intake/exhaust stack-to-cylinder rings... ? (Mark Pennington)
9. 10:04 AM - Re: Re: intake/exhaust stack-to-cylinder rings... ? (Walter Lannon)
10. 11:13 AM - Re: Re: intake/exhaust stack-to-cylinder rings... ? (Richard Goode)
11. 11:46 AM - Re: Re: intake/exhaust stack-to-cylinder rings... ? (Mark Pennington)
12. 07:53 PM - Re: Re: intake/exhaust stack-to-cylinder rings... ? (Walter Lannon)
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| Subject: | Re: intake/exhaust stack-to-cylinder rings... ? |
Justin
I am sure there are part numbers. But I have purchased those from Doug
and Richard.
The exhaust are called exhaust donuts in the US.
I think, correct me if I am wrong across the pond they call them exhaust
olive gaskets.
The seals for the intake side are paper from the factory. There is an
upgrade to a red viton Oring seal that I installed 2 years ago. Zero
problems since then. I completely cleaned out the gasket channel and
installed two of the new paper gaskets then the viton ORing. It seals
perfectly. I took one of the orings out this last condition inspection and
the paper gaskets were still clean and like new. No oil seepage around the
Oring.
I am sure Doug has all of this stuff. I am running an M14P on my CJ. The
parts could be the same.
Reach out to Doug and Richard if need be.
Mark
N621CJ.
On Sun, May 16, 2021 at 6:57 PM Justin Drafts <draftsjust417@gmail.com>
wrote:
> All-
> Do we have the part number for
> the metal rings/donuts that fit between
> the intake/exhaust stacks and the back if the cylinder heads?
> I can't find it in the parts catalogs...
> ???
> Thanks--
> Justin/N280NC
>
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| Subject: | Re: intake/exhaust stack-to-cylinder rings... ? |
Yes, in Europe we call them exhaust "olives". The standard size is 10 mm
thickness, but we realised that a certain number of people fail to
tighten the exhaust nuts on a regular basis; the exhaust plus olive then
"fret" against the cylinder head and wear it away, and in these cases we
manufacture thick olives to any size people might want. So the standard
olives are Euro 28 each and the thicker ones in any dimension (to order,
since we manufacture them) are Euro 38 each.
And the intake tube gaskets are of course different =93 it is a
rubber ring at the supercharger end, for which we charge Euro 4 per ring
and at the cylinder end it is a paper gasket, but in order to get the
appropriate thickness one needs three of them per intake tube. Cost is
Euro 2 per gasket, so Euro 6 for the three and so a total of Euro 10 per
intake tube!
All are in stock with Aerometal in Hungary, so let us know if anyone
needs them.
Richard
RICHARD GOODE AEROBATICS
Rhodds Farm, Lyonshall, Hereford, HR5 3LW, UK
Tel: +44 (0)1544 340120 Fax: +44 (0)1544 340129
e-mail: <mailto:richard.goode@russianaeros.com>
richard.goode@russianaeros.com
<http://www.russianaeros.com> www.russianaeros.com
WORLD LEADERS IN RUSSIAN SPORTING AIRCRAFT & ENGINES
In partnership with Aerometal Kft, Hungary.
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
<mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com>
<owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
<mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com> > On Behalf Of Mark
Pennington
Sent: 17 May 2021 12:05
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: intake/exhaust stack-to-cylinder rings... ?
Justin
I am sure there are part numbers. But I have purchased those from Doug
and Richard.
The exhaust are called exhaust donuts in the US.
I think, correct me if I am wrong across the pond they call them exhaust
olive gaskets.
The seals for the intake side are paper from the factory. There is an
upgrade to a red viton Oring seal that I installed 2 years ago. Zero
problems since then. I completely cleaned out the gasket channel and
installed two of the new paper gaskets then the viton ORing. It seals
perfectly. I took one of the orings out this last condition inspection
and the paper gaskets were still clean and like new. No oil seepage
around the Oring.
I am sure Doug has all of this stuff. I am running an M14P on my CJ.
The parts could be the same.
Reach out to Doug and Richard if need be.
Mark
N621CJ.
On Sun, May 16, 2021 at 6:57 PM Justin Drafts <draftsjust417@gmail.com
<mailto:draftsjust417@gmail.com> > wrote:
All-
Do we have the part number for
the metal rings/donuts that fit between
the intake/exhaust stacks and the back if the cylinder heads?
I can't find it in the parts catalogs...
???
Thanks--
Justin/N280NC
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| Subject: | Re: intake/exhaust stack-to-cylinder rings... ? |
The M14 part numbers are:
10-04-46 Intake gasket upper pipe to cylinder 3 per cylinder
14-04-542 Exhaust Gasket (doughnut)
10-04-26 Intake gasket lower pipe to supercharger case
George Coy
MotorstarNA
714 Airport Rd.
Swanton VT 05488
802-868-5633 off
802-363-5782 cell
george.coy@gmail.com <mailto:george.coy@gmail.com>
http://motorstarna.com/
SKYPE george.coy
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
<owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com> On Behalf Of Richard Goode
Sent: Monday, May 17, 2021 8:47 AM
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Re: intake/exhaust stack-to-cylinder rings... ?
Yes, in Europe we call them exhaust "olives". The standard size is 10 mm
thickness, but we realised that a certain number of people fail to
tighten the exhaust nuts on a regular basis; the exhaust plus olive then
"fret" against the cylinder head and wear it away, and in these cases we
manufacture thick olives to any size people might want. So the standard
olives are Euro 28 each and the thicker ones in any dimension (to order,
since we manufacture them) are Euro 38 each.
And the intake tube gaskets are of course different =93 it is a
rubber ring at the supercharger end, for which we charge Euro 4 per ring
and at the cylinder end it is a paper gasket, but in order to get the
appropriate thickness one needs three of them per intake tube. Cost is
Euro 2 per gasket, so Euro 6 for the three and so a total of Euro 10 per
intake tube!
All are in stock with Aerometal in Hungary, so let us know if anyone
needs them.
Richard
RICHARD GOODE AEROBATICS
Rhodds Farm, Lyonshall, Hereford, HR5 3LW, UK
Tel: +44 (0)1544 340120 Fax: +44 (0)1544 340129
e-mail: <mailto:richard.goode@russianaeros.com>
richard.goode@russianaeros.com
<http://www.russianaeros.com> www.russianaeros.com
WORLD LEADERS IN RUSSIAN SPORTING AIRCRAFT & ENGINES
In partnership with Aerometal Kft, Hungary.
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
<mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com>
<owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
<mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com> > On Behalf Of Mark
Pennington
Sent: 17 May 2021 12:05
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: intake/exhaust stack-to-cylinder rings... ?
Justin
I am sure there are part numbers. But I have purchased those from Doug
and Richard.
The exhaust are called exhaust donuts in the US.
I think, correct me if I am wrong across the pond they call them exhaust
olive gaskets.
The seals for the intake side are paper from the factory. There is an
upgrade to a red viton Oring seal that I installed 2 years ago. Zero
problems since then. I completely cleaned out the gasket channel and
installed two of the new paper gaskets then the viton ORing. It seals
perfectly. I took one of the orings out this last condition inspection
and the paper gaskets were still clean and like new. No oil seepage
around the Oring.
I am sure Doug has all of this stuff. I am running an M14P on my CJ.
The parts could be the same.
Reach out to Doug and Richard if need be.
Mark
N621CJ.
On Sun, May 16, 2021 at 6:57 PM Justin Drafts <
<mailto:draftsjust417@gmail.com> draftsjust417@gmail.com> wrote:
All-
Do we have the part number for
the metal rings/donuts that fit between
the intake/exhaust stacks and the back if the cylinder heads?
I can't find it in the parts catalogs...
???
Thanks--
Justin/N280NC
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| Subject: | Re: intake/exhaust stack-to-cylinder rings... ? |
Great info all, thanks-
I learn something every time I open the cowls.
Thought there were olives/rings on both intakes *&* exhausts, good to know
just exhaust stacks and fewer req'd.
I'm running a Chinese Housai, any info on those ring p/n's?
Thanks again- Justin
On Mon, May 17, 2021, 6:49 AM George <george.coy@gmail.com> wrote:
> The M14 part numbers are:
>
>
> 10-04-46 Intake gasket upper pipe to cylinder 3 per cylinder
>
> 14-04-542 Exhaust Gasket (doughnut)
>
> 10-04-26 Intake gasket lower pipe to supercharger case
>
>
> *George Coy*
>
> *MotorstarNA*
>
> *714 Airport Rd.*
>
> *Swanton VT 05488*
>
> *802-868-5633 off*
>
> *802-363-5782 cell*
>
> *george.coy@gmail.com <george.coy@gmail.com>*
>
> *http://motorstarna.com/ <http://motorstarna.com/>*
>
> *SKYPE george.coy*
>
>
> *From:* owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com <
> owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com> *On Behalf Of *Richard Goode
> *Sent:* Monday, May 17, 2021 8:47 AM
> *To:* yak-list@matronics.com
> *Subject:* RE: Yak-List: Re: intake/exhaust stack-to-cylinder rings... ?
>
>
> Yes, in Europe we call them exhaust "olives". The standard size is 10 mm
> thickness, but we realised that a certain number of people fail to tighte
n
> the exhaust nuts on a regular basis; the exhaust plus olive then "fret"
> against the cylinder head and wear it away, and in these cases we
> manufacture thick olives to any size people might want. So the standard
> olives are Euro 28 each and the thicker ones in any dimension (to order,
> since we manufacture them) are Euro 38 each.
>
>
> And the intake tube gaskets are of course different =93 it is a rub
ber ring
> at the supercharger end, for which we charge Euro 4 per ring and at the
> cylinder end it is a paper gasket, but in order to get the appropriate
> thickness one needs three of them per intake tube. Cost is Euro 2 per
> gasket, so Euro 6 for the three and so a total of Euro 10 per intake tube
!
>
>
> All are in stock with Aerometal in Hungary, so let us know if anyone need
s
> them.
>
>
> Richard
>
> *RICHARD GOODE AEROBATICS*
>
> *Rhodds Farm, Lyonshall, Hereford, HR5 3LW, UK*
>
> Tel: +44 (0)1544 340120 Fax: +44 (0)1544 340129
>
> e-mail: richard.goode@russianaeros.com
>
> www.russianaeros.com
>
> *W**ORLD LEADERS IN RUSSIAN SPORTING AIRCRAFT & ENGINES*
>
> *In partnership with Aerometal Kft, Hungary.*
>
>
> *From:* owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com <
> owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com> *On Behalf Of *Mark Pennington
> *Sent:* 17 May 2021 12:05
> *To:* yak-list@matronics.com
> *Subject:* Re: Yak-List: Re: intake/exhaust stack-to-cylinder rings... ?
>
>
> Justin
>
>
> I am sure there are part numbers. But I have purchased those from Doug
> and Richard.
>
>
> The exhaust are called exhaust donuts in the US.
>
> I think, correct me if I am wrong across the pond they call them exhaust
> olive gaskets.
>
>
> The seals for the intake side are paper from the factory. There is an
> upgrade to a red viton Oring seal that I installed 2 years ago. Zero
> problems since then. I completely cleaned out the gasket channel and
> installed two of the new paper gaskets then the viton ORing. It seals
> perfectly. I took one of the orings out this last condition inspection an
d
> the paper gaskets were still clean and like new. No oil seepage around t
he
> Oring.
>
>
> I am sure Doug has all of this stuff. I am running an M14P on my CJ. Th
e
> parts could be the same.
>
>
> Reach out to Doug and Richard if need be.
>
>
> Mark
>
> N621CJ.
>
>
> On Sun, May 16, 2021 at 6:57 PM Justin Drafts <draftsjust417@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> All-
>
> Do we have the part number for
>
> the metal rings/donuts that fit between
>
> the intake/exhaust stacks and the back if the cylinder heads?
>
> I can't find it in the parts catalogs...
>
> ???
>
> Thanks--
>
> Justin/N280NC
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: intake/exhaust stack-to-cylinder rings... ? |
Hi Justin:
The exhaust seals are identical for both the HS and M14 engines.
There are stainless steel units manufactured by one of the US exhaust
manufacturers. I have those on my engine but would caution any one
considering same to be aware of the fact that as theses units are
pressed in manufacture they leave a sharp protruding edge that will
destroy the aluminum alloy cylinder seat.
If they are perfectly centered they will work however I have yet to see
an exhaust system made to perfectly align with all of the cylinder
seats.
I have modified these for my own use but it is an extremely dangerous
hand grinding operation.
Walt
From: Justin Drafts r
Sent: Monday, May 17, 2021 8:14 AM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: intake/exhaust stack-to-cylinder rings... ?
Great info all, thanks-
I learn something every time I open the cowls.
Thought there were olives/rings on both intakes & exhausts, good to know
just exhaust stacks and fewer req'd.
I'm running a Chinese Housai, any info on those ring p/n's?
Thanks again- Justin
On Mon, May 17, 2021, 6:49 AM George <george.coy@gmail.com> wrote:
The M14 part numbers are:
10-04-46 Intake gasket upper pipe to cylinder 3 per cylinder
14-04-542 Exhaust Gasket (doughnut)
10-04-26 Intake gasket lower pipe to supercharger case
George Coy
MotorstarNA
714 Airport Rd.
Swanton VT 05488
802-868-5633 off
802-363-5782 cell
george.coy@gmail.com
http://motorstarna.com/
SKYPE george.coy
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
<owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com> On Behalf Of Richard Goode
Sent: Monday, May 17, 2021 8:47 AM
To: yak-list@matronics.com
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Re: intake/exhaust stack-to-cylinder rings... ?
Yes, in Europe we call them exhaust "olives". The standard size is 10
mm thickness, but we realised that a certain number of people fail to
tighten the exhaust nuts on a regular basis; the exhaust plus olive then
"fret" against the cylinder head and wear it away, and in these cases we
manufacture thick olives to any size people might want. So the standard
olives are Euro 28 each and the thicker ones in any dimension (to order,
since we manufacture them) are Euro 38 each.
And the intake tube gaskets are of course different =93 it is a
rubber ring at the supercharger end, for which we charge Euro 4 per ring
and at the cylinder end it is a paper gasket, but in order to get the
appropriate thickness one needs three of them per intake tube. Cost is
Euro 2 per gasket, so Euro 6 for the three and so a total of Euro 10 per
intake tube!
All are in stock with Aerometal in Hungary, so let us know if anyone
needs them.
Richard
RICHARD GOODE AEROBATICS
Rhodds Farm, Lyonshall, Hereford, HR5 3LW, UK
Tel: +44 (0)1544 340120 Fax: +44 (0)1544 340129
e-mail: richard.goode@russianaeros.com
www.russianaeros.com
WORLD LEADERS IN RUSSIAN SPORTING AIRCRAFT & ENGINES
In partnership with Aerometal Kft, Hungary.
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
<owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com> On Behalf Of Mark Pennington
Sent: 17 May 2021 12:05
To: yak-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: intake/exhaust stack-to-cylinder rings... ?
Justin
I am sure there are part numbers. But I have purchased those from
Doug and Richard.
The exhaust are called exhaust donuts in the US.
I think, correct me if I am wrong across the pond they call them
exhaust olive gaskets.
The seals for the intake side are paper from the factory. There is an
upgrade to a red viton Oring seal that I installed 2 years ago. Zero
problems since then. I completely cleaned out the gasket channel and
installed two of the new paper gaskets then the viton ORing. It seals
perfectly. I took one of the orings out this last condition inspection
and the paper gaskets were still clean and like new. No oil seepage
around the Oring.
I am sure Doug has all of this stuff. I am running an M14P on my CJ.
The parts could be the same.
Reach out to Doug and Richard if need be.
Mark
N621CJ.
On Sun, May 16, 2021 at 6:57 PM Justin Drafts
<draftsjust417@gmail.com> wrote:
All-
Do we have the part number for
the metal rings/donuts that fit between
the intake/exhaust stacks and the back if the cylinder heads?
I can't find it in the parts catalogs...
???
Thanks--
Justin/N280NC
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| Subject: | Re: intake/exhaust stack-to-cylinder rings... ? |
Excellent info, thanks Walt!
Justin
On Mon, May 17, 2021, 9:39 AM Walter Lannon <wlannon@shaw.ca> wrote:
> Hi Justin:
>
> The exhaust seals are identical for both the HS and M14 engines.
>
> There are stainless steel units manufactured by one of the US exhaust
> manufacturers. I have those on my engine but would caution any one
> considering same to be aware of the fact that as theses units are pressed
> in manufacture they leave a sharp protruding edge that will destroy the
> aluminum alloy cylinder seat.
>
> If they are perfectly centered they will work however I have yet to see
> an exhaust system made to perfectly align with all of the cylinder seats.
>
> I have modified these for my own use but it is an extremely dangerous han
d
> grinding operation.
>
> Walt
>
>
> *From:* Justin Drafts <draftsjust417@gmail.com> r
> *Sent:* Monday, May 17, 2021 8:14 AM
> *To:* yak-list@matronics.com
> *Subject:* Re: Yak-List: Re: intake/exhaust stack-to-cylinder rings... ?
>
> Great info all, thanks-
> I learn something every time I open the cowls.
> Thought there were olives/rings on both intakes *&* exhausts, good to
> know just exhaust stacks and fewer req'd.
>
> I'm running a Chinese Housai, any info on those ring p/n's?
>
> Thanks again- Justin
>
> On Mon, May 17, 2021, 6:49 AM George <george.coy@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> The M14 part numbers are:
>>
>>
>>
>> 10-04-46 Intake gasket upper pipe to cylinder 3 per cylinder
>>
>> 14-04-542 Exhaust Gasket (doughnut)
>>
>> 10-04-26 Intake gasket lower pipe to supercharger case
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *George Coy*
>>
>> *MotorstarNA*
>>
>> *714 Airport Rd.*
>>
>> *Swanton VT 05488*
>>
>> *802-868-5633 off*
>>
>> *802-363-5782 cell*
>>
>> *george.coy@gmail.com <george.coy@gmail.com>*
>>
>> *http://motorstarna.com/ <http://motorstarna.com/>*
>>
>> *SKYPE george.coy*
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com <
>> owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com> *On Behalf Of *Richard Goode
>> *Sent:* Monday, May 17, 2021 8:47 AM
>> *To:* yak-list@matronics.com
>> *Subject:* RE: Yak-List: Re: intake/exhaust stack-to-cylinder rings... ?
>>
>>
>>
>> Yes, in Europe we call them exhaust "olives". The standard size is 10 mm
>> thickness, but we realised that a certain number of people fail to tight
en
>> the exhaust nuts on a regular basis; the exhaust plus olive then "fret"
>> against the cylinder head and wear it away, and in these cases we
>> manufacture thick olives to any size people might want. So the standard
>> olives are Euro 28 each and the thicker ones in any dimension (to order,
>> since we manufacture them) are Euro 38 each.
>>
>>
>>
>> And the intake tube gaskets are of course different =93 it is a ru
bber ring
>> at the supercharger end, for which we charge Euro 4 per ring and at the
>> cylinder end it is a paper gasket, but in order to get the appropriate
>> thickness one needs three of them per intake tube. Cost is Euro 2 per
>> gasket, so Euro 6 for the three and so a total of Euro 10 per intake tub
e!
>>
>>
>>
>> All are in stock with Aerometal in Hungary, so let us know if anyone
>> needs them.
>>
>>
>>
>> Richard
>>
>> *RICHARD GOODE AEROBATICS*
>>
>> *Rhodds Farm, Lyonshall, Hereford, HR5 3LW, UK*
>>
>> Tel: +44 (0)1544 340120 Fax: +44 (0)1544 340129
>>
>> e-mail: richard.goode@russianaeros.com
>>
>> www.russianaeros.com
>>
>> *W**ORLD LEADERS IN RUSSIAN SPORTING AIRCRAFT & ENGINES*
>>
>> *In partnership with Aerometal Kft, Hungary.*
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com <
>> owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com> *On Behalf Of *Mark Pennington
>> *Sent:* 17 May 2021 12:05
>> *To:* yak-list@matronics.com
>> *Subject:* Re: Yak-List: Re: intake/exhaust stack-to-cylinder rings... ?
>>
>>
>>
>> Justin
>>
>>
>>
>> I am sure there are part numbers. But I have purchased those from Doug
>> and Richard.
>>
>>
>>
>> The exhaust are called exhaust donuts in the US.
>>
>> I think, correct me if I am wrong across the pond they call them exhaust
>> olive gaskets.
>>
>>
>>
>> The seals for the intake side are paper from the factory. There is an
>> upgrade to a red viton Oring seal that I installed 2 years ago. Zero
>> problems since then. I completely cleaned out the gasket channel and
>> installed two of the new paper gaskets then the viton ORing. It seals
>> perfectly. I took one of the orings out this last condition inspection a
nd
>> the paper gaskets were still clean and like new. No oil seepage around
the
>> Oring.
>>
>>
>>
>> I am sure Doug has all of this stuff. I am running an M14P on my CJ.
>> The parts could be the same.
>>
>>
>>
>> Reach out to Doug and Richard if need be.
>>
>>
>>
>> Mark
>>
>> N621CJ.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, May 16, 2021 at 6:57 PM Justin Drafts <draftsjust417@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> All-
>>
>> Do we have the part number for
>>
>> the metal rings/donuts that fit between
>>
>> the intake/exhaust stacks and the back if the cylinder heads?
>>
>> I can't find it in the parts catalogs...
>>
>> ???
>>
>> Thanks--
>>
>> Justin/N280NC
>>
>>
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| Subject: | Re: intake/exhaust stack-to-cylinder rings... ? |
Walt.
I just had this education recently from Richard.
They make the exhaust olives in three thickness.
10, 12 and 14mm to help fit the flanges better.
Since I used these my exhaust fits very well and stays tight. Grinding
those would be difficult at best.
I have attached a photo of what Richard supplies. I understand Richard
uses these on a regular basis
On his side of the pond
On Mon, May 17, 2021 at 12:39 PM Walter Lannon <wlannon@shaw.ca> wrote:
> Hi Justin:
>
> The exhaust seals are identical for both the HS and M14 engines.
>
> There are stainless steel units manufactured by one of the US exhaust
> manufacturers. I have those on my engine but would caution any one
> considering same to be aware of the fact that as theses units are pressed
> in manufacture they leave a sharp protruding edge that will destroy the
> aluminum alloy cylinder seat.
>
> If they are perfectly centered they will work however I have yet to see
> an exhaust system made to perfectly align with all of the cylinder seats.
>
> I have modified these for my own use but it is an extremely dangerous han
d
> grinding operation.
>
> Walt
>
>
> *From:* Justin Drafts <draftsjust417@gmail.com> r
> *Sent:* Monday, May 17, 2021 8:14 AM
> *To:* yak-list@matronics.com
> *Subject:* Re: Yak-List: Re: intake/exhaust stack-to-cylinder rings... ?
>
> Great info all, thanks-
> I learn something every time I open the cowls.
> Thought there were olives/rings on both intakes *&* exhausts, good to
> know just exhaust stacks and fewer req'd.
>
> I'm running a Chinese Housai, any info on those ring p/n's?
>
> Thanks again- Justin
>
> On Mon, May 17, 2021, 6:49 AM George <george.coy@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> The M14 part numbers are:
>>
>>
>>
>> 10-04-46 Intake gasket upper pipe to cylinder 3 per cylinder
>>
>> 14-04-542 Exhaust Gasket (doughnut)
>>
>> 10-04-26 Intake gasket lower pipe to supercharger case
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *George Coy*
>>
>> *MotorstarNA*
>>
>> *714 Airport Rd.
>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/714+%0D%0A++Airport+Rd.+%0D%0A+++Swa
nton+%0D%0A++VT+05488?entry=gmail&source=g>*
>>
>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/714+%0D%0A++Airport+Rd.+%0D%0A+++Swa
nton+%0D%0A++VT+05488?entry=gmail&source=g>
>>
>> *Swanton VT 05488
>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/714+%0D%0A++Airport+Rd.+%0D%0A+++Swa
nton+%0D%0A++VT+05488?entry=gmail&source=g>*
>>
>> *802-868-5633 off*
>>
>> *802-363-5782 cell*
>>
>> *george.coy@gmail.com <george.coy@gmail.com>*
>>
>> *http://motorstarna.com/ <http://motorstarna.com/>*
>>
>> *SKYPE george.coy*
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com <
>> owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com> *On Behalf Of *Richard Goode
>> *Sent:* Monday, May 17, 2021 8:47 AM
>> *To:* yak-list@matronics.com
>> *Subject:* RE: Yak-List: Re: intake/exhaust stack-to-cylinder rings... ?
>>
>>
>>
>> Yes, in Europe we call them exhaust "olives". The standard size is 10 mm
>> thickness, but we realised that a certain number of people fail to tight
en
>> the exhaust nuts on a regular basis; the exhaust plus olive then "fret"
>> against the cylinder head and wear it away, and in these cases we
>> manufacture thick olives to any size people might want. So the standard
>> olives are Euro 28 each and the thicker ones in any dimension (to order,
>> since we manufacture them) are Euro 38 each.
>>
>>
>>
>> And the intake tube gaskets are of course different =93 it is a ru
bber ring
>> at the supercharger end, for which we charge Euro 4 per ring and at the
>> cylinder end it is a paper gasket, but in order to get the appropriate
>> thickness one needs three of them per intake tube. Cost is Euro 2 per
>> gasket, so Euro 6 for the three and so a total of Euro 10 per intake tub
e!
>>
>>
>>
>> All are in stock with Aerometal in Hungary, so let us know if anyone
>> needs them.
>>
>>
>>
>> Richard
>>
>> *RICHARD GOODE AEROBATICS*
>>
>> *Rhodds Farm, Lyonshall, Hereford, HR5 3LW, UK*
>>
>> Tel: +44 (0)1544 340120 Fax: +44 (0)1544 340129
>>
>> e-mail: richard.goode@russianaeros.com
>>
>> www.russianaeros.com
>>
>> *W**ORLD LEADERS IN RUSSIAN SPORTING AIRCRAFT & ENGINES*
>>
>> *In partnership with Aerometal Kft, Hungary.*
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com <
>> owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com> *On Behalf Of *Mark Pennington
>> *Sent:* 17 May 2021 12:05
>> *To:* yak-list@matronics.com
>> *Subject:* Re: Yak-List: Re: intake/exhaust stack-to-cylinder rings... ?
>>
>>
>>
>> Justin
>>
>>
>>
>> I am sure there are part numbers. But I have purchased those from Doug
>> and Richard.
>>
>>
>>
>> The exhaust are called exhaust donuts in the US.
>>
>> I think, correct me if I am wrong across the pond they call them exhaust
>> olive gaskets.
>>
>>
>>
>> The seals for the intake side are paper from the factory. There is an
>> upgrade to a red viton Oring seal that I installed 2 years ago. Zero
>> problems since then. I completely cleaned out the gasket channel and
>> installed two of the new paper gaskets then the viton ORing. It seals
>> perfectly. I took one of the orings out this last condition inspection a
nd
>> the paper gaskets were still clean and like new. No oil seepage around
the
>> Oring.
>>
>>
>>
>> I am sure Doug has all of this stuff. I am running an M14P on my CJ.
>> The parts could be the same.
>>
>>
>>
>> Reach out to Doug and Richard if need be.
>>
>>
>>
>> Mark
>>
>> N621CJ.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, May 16, 2021 at 6:57 PM Justin Drafts <draftsjust417@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> All-
>>
>> Do we have the part number for
>>
>> the metal rings/donuts that fit between
>>
>> the intake/exhaust stacks and the back if the cylinder heads?
>>
>> I can't find it in the parts catalogs...
>>
>> ???
>>
>> Thanks--
>>
>> Justin/N280NC
>>
>>
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Walt.
I just had this education recently from Richard.
They make the exhaust olives in three thickness.
10, 12 and 14mm to help fit the flanges better.
Since I used these my exhaust fits very well and stays tight. Grinding
those would be difficult at best.
I have attached a photo of what Richard supplies. I understand Richard
uses these on a regular basis
On his side of the pond
Mark
N621CJ
On Mon, May 17, 2021 at 12:39 PM Walter Lannon <wlannon@shaw.ca> wrote:
> Hi Justin:
>
> The exhaust seals are identical for both the HS and M14 engines.
>
> There are stainless steel units manufactured by one of the US exhaust
> manufacturers. I have those on my engine but would caution any one
> considering same to be aware of the fact that as theses units are pressed
> in manufacture they leave a sharp protruding edge that will destroy the
> aluminum alloy cylinder seat.
>
> If they are perfectly centered they will work however I have yet to see
> an exhaust system made to perfectly align with all of the cylinder seats.
>
> I have modified these for my own use but it is an extremely dangerous han
d
> grinding operation.
>
> Walt
>
>
> *From:* Justin Drafts <draftsjust417@gmail.com> r
> *Sent:* Monday, May 17, 2021 8:14 AM
> *To:* yak-list@matronics.com
> *Subject:* Re: Yak-List: Re: intake/exhaust stack-to-cylinder rings... ?
>
> Great info all, thanks-
> I learn something every time I open the cowls.
> Thought there were olives/rings on both intakes *&* exhausts, good to
> know just exhaust stacks and fewer req'd.
>
> I'm running a Chinese Housai, any info on those ring p/n's?
>
> Thanks again- Justin
>
> On Mon, May 17, 2021, 6:49 AM George <george.coy@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> The M14 part numbers are:
>>
>>
>>
>> 10-04-46 Intake gasket upper pipe to cylinder 3 per cylinder
>>
>> 14-04-542 Exhaust Gasket (doughnut)
>>
>> 10-04-26 Intake gasket lower pipe to supercharger case
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *George Coy*
>>
>> *MotorstarNA*
>>
>> *714 Airport Rd.
>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/714+%0D%0A++Airport+Rd.+%0D%0A+++Swa
nton+%0D%0A++VT+05488?entry=gmail&source=g>*
>>
>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/714+%0D%0A++Airport+Rd.+%0D%0A+++Swa
nton+%0D%0A++VT+05488?entry=gmail&source=g>
>>
>> *Swanton VT 05488
>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/714+%0D%0A++Airport+Rd.+%0D%0A+++Swa
nton+%0D%0A++VT+05488?entry=gmail&source=g>*
>>
>> *802-868-5633 off*
>>
>> *802-363-5782 cell*
>>
>> *george.coy@gmail.com <george.coy@gmail.com>*
>>
>> *http://motorstarna.com/ <http://motorstarna.com/>*
>>
>> *SKYPE george.coy*
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com <
>> owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com> *On Behalf Of *Richard Goode
>> *Sent:* Monday, May 17, 2021 8:47 AM
>> *To:* yak-list@matronics.com
>> *Subject:* RE: Yak-List: Re: intake/exhaust stack-to-cylinder rings... ?
>>
>>
>>
>> Yes, in Europe we call them exhaust "olives". The standard size is 10 mm
>> thickness, but we realised that a certain number of people fail to tight
en
>> the exhaust nuts on a regular basis; the exhaust plus olive then "fret"
>> against the cylinder head and wear it away, and in these cases we
>> manufacture thick olives to any size people might want. So the standard
>> olives are Euro 28 each and the thicker ones in any dimension (to order,
>> since we manufacture them) are Euro 38 each.
>>
>>
>>
>> And the intake tube gaskets are of course different =93 it is a ru
bber ring
>> at the supercharger end, for which we charge Euro 4 per ring and at the
>> cylinder end it is a paper gasket, but in order to get the appropriate
>> thickness one needs three of them per intake tube. Cost is Euro 2 per
>> gasket, so Euro 6 for the three and so a total of Euro 10 per intake tub
e!
>>
>>
>>
>> All are in stock with Aerometal in Hungary, so let us know if anyone
>> needs them.
>>
>>
>>
>> Richard
>>
>> *RICHARD GOODE AEROBATICS*
>>
>> *Rhodds Farm, Lyonshall, Hereford, HR5 3LW, UK*
>>
>> Tel: +44 (0)1544 340120 Fax: +44 (0)1544 340129
>>
>> e-mail: richard.goode@russianaeros.com
>>
>> www.russianaeros.com
>>
>> *W**ORLD LEADERS IN RUSSIAN SPORTING AIRCRAFT & ENGINES*
>>
>> *In partnership with Aerometal Kft, Hungary.*
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com <
>> owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com> *On Behalf Of *Mark Pennington
>> *Sent:* 17 May 2021 12:05
>> *To:* yak-list@matronics.com
>> *Subject:* Re: Yak-List: Re: intake/exhaust stack-to-cylinder rings... ?
>>
>>
>>
>> Justin
>>
>>
>>
>> I am sure there are part numbers. But I have purchased those from Doug
>> and Richard.
>>
>>
>>
>> The exhaust are called exhaust donuts in the US.
>>
>> I think, correct me if I am wrong across the pond they call them exhaust
>> olive gaskets.
>>
>>
>>
>> The seals for the intake side are paper from the factory. There is an
>> upgrade to a red viton Oring seal that I installed 2 years ago. Zero
>> problems since then. I completely cleaned out the gasket channel and
>> installed two of the new paper gaskets then the viton ORing. It seals
>> perfectly. I took one of the orings out this last condition inspection a
nd
>> the paper gaskets were still clean and like new. No oil seepage around
the
>> Oring.
>>
>>
>>
>> I am sure Doug has all of this stuff. I am running an M14P on my CJ.
>> The parts could be the same.
>>
>>
>>
>> Reach out to Doug and Richard if need be.
>>
>>
>>
>> Mark
>>
>> N621CJ.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, May 16, 2021 at 6:57 PM Justin Drafts <draftsjust417@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> All-
>>
>> Do we have the part number for
>>
>> the metal rings/donuts that fit between
>>
>> the intake/exhaust stacks and the back if the cylinder heads?
>>
>> I can't find it in the parts catalogs...
>>
>> ???
>>
>> Thanks--
>>
>> Justin/N280NC
>>
>>
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I should have added that once modified to remove the offending sharp
edge that can destroy the the cylinder seat the stainless unit will seal
perfectly and last forever. Unlike the factory carbon steel that will
also destroy the cyl. seat unless replaced on a regular basis.
Walt
From: Justin Drafts
Sent: Monday, May 17, 2021 8:14 AM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: intake/exhaust stack-to-cylinder rings... ?
Great info all, thanks-
I learn something every time I open the cowls.
Thought there were olives/rings on both intakes & exhausts, good to know
just exhaust stacks and fewer req'd.
I'm running a Chinese Housai, any info on those ring p/n's?
Thanks again- Justin
On Mon, May 17, 2021, 6:49 AM George <george.coy@gmail.com> wrote:
The M14 part numbers are:
10-04-46 Intake gasket upper pipe to cylinder 3 per cylinder
14-04-542 Exhaust Gasket (doughnut)
10-04-26 Intake gasket lower pipe to supercharger case
George Coy
MotorstarNA
714 Airport Rd.
Swanton VT 05488
802-868-5633 off
802-363-5782 cell
george.coy@gmail.com
http://motorstarna.com/
SKYPE george.coy
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
<owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com> On Behalf Of Richard Goode
Sent: Monday, May 17, 2021 8:47 AM
To: yak-list@matronics.com
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Re: intake/exhaust stack-to-cylinder rings... ?
Yes, in Europe we call them exhaust "olives". The standard size is 10
mm thickness, but we realised that a certain number of people fail to
tighten the exhaust nuts on a regular basis; the exhaust plus olive then
"fret" against the cylinder head and wear it away, and in these cases we
manufacture thick olives to any size people might want. So the standard
olives are Euro 28 each and the thicker ones in any dimension (to order,
since we manufacture them) are Euro 38 each.
And the intake tube gaskets are of course different =93 it is a
rubber ring at the supercharger end, for which we charge Euro 4 per ring
and at the cylinder end it is a paper gasket, but in order to get the
appropriate thickness one needs three of them per intake tube. Cost is
Euro 2 per gasket, so Euro 6 for the three and so a total of Euro 10 per
intake tube!
All are in stock with Aerometal in Hungary, so let us know if anyone
needs them.
Richard
RICHARD GOODE AEROBATICS
Rhodds Farm, Lyonshall, Hereford, HR5 3LW, UK
Tel: +44 (0)1544 340120 Fax: +44 (0)1544 340129
e-mail: richard.goode@russianaeros.com
www.russianaeros.com
WORLD LEADERS IN RUSSIAN SPORTING AIRCRAFT & ENGINES
In partnership with Aerometal Kft, Hungary.
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
<owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com> On Behalf Of Mark Pennington
Sent: 17 May 2021 12:05
To: yak-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: intake/exhaust stack-to-cylinder rings... ?
Justin
I am sure there are part numbers. But I have purchased those from
Doug and Richard.
The exhaust are called exhaust donuts in the US.
I think, correct me if I am wrong across the pond they call them
exhaust olive gaskets.
The seals for the intake side are paper from the factory. There is an
upgrade to a red viton Oring seal that I installed 2 years ago. Zero
problems since then. I completely cleaned out the gasket channel and
installed two of the new paper gaskets then the viton ORing. It seals
perfectly. I took one of the orings out this last condition inspection
and the paper gaskets were still clean and like new. No oil seepage
around the Oring.
I am sure Doug has all of this stuff. I am running an M14P on my CJ.
The parts could be the same.
Reach out to Doug and Richard if need be.
Mark
N621CJ.
On Sun, May 16, 2021 at 6:57 PM Justin Drafts
<draftsjust417@gmail.com> wrote:
All-
Do we have the part number for
the metal rings/donuts that fit between
the intake/exhaust stacks and the back if the cylinder heads?
I can't find it in the parts catalogs...
???
Thanks--
Justin/N280NC
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I'm sorry if I haven't been clear =93 the standard size is 10 mm
thickness and then we will make them in exactly any other size according
to a customer=99s requirements. So you are not stuck with 10/12/14
mm!
Richard
RICHARD GOODE AEROBATICS
Rhodds Farm, Lyonshall, Hereford, HR5 3LW, UK
Tel: +44 (0)1544 340120 Fax: +44 (0)1544 340129
e-mail: richard.goode@russianaeros.com
<mailto:richard.goode@russianaeros.com>
<http://www.russianaeros.com> www.russianaeros.com
WORLD LEADERS IN RUSSIAN SPORTING AIRCRAFT & ENGINES
In partnership with Aerometal Kft, Hungary.
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
<owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com> On Behalf Of Mark Pennington
Sent: 17 May 2021 17:50
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: intake/exhaust stack-to-cylinder rings... ?
Walt.
I just had this education recently from Richard.
They make the exhaust olives in three thickness.
10, 12 and 14mm to help fit the flanges better.
Since I used these my exhaust fits very well and stays tight. Grinding
those would be difficult at best.
I have attached a photo of what Richard supplies. I understand Richard
uses these on a regular basis
On his side of the pond
Mark
N621CJ
On Mon, May 17, 2021 at 12:39 PM Walter Lannon <wlannon@shaw.ca
<mailto:wlannon@shaw.ca> > wrote:
Hi Justin:
The exhaust seals are identical for both the HS and M14 engines.
There are stainless steel units manufactured by one of the US exhaust
manufacturers. I have those on my engine but would caution any one
considering same to be aware of the fact that as theses units are
pressed in manufacture they leave a sharp protruding edge that will
destroy the aluminum alloy cylinder seat.
If they are perfectly centered they will work however I have yet to see
an exhaust system made to perfectly align with all of the cylinder
seats.
I have modified these for my own use but it is an extremely dangerous
hand grinding operation.
Walt
From: Justin Drafts <mailto:draftsjust417@gmail.com> r
Sent: Monday, May 17, 2021 8:14 AM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: intake/exhaust stack-to-cylinder rings... ?
Great info all, thanks-
I learn something every time I open the cowls.
Thought there were olives/rings on both intakes & exhausts, good to know
just exhaust stacks and fewer req'd.
I'm running a Chinese Housai, any info on those ring p/n's?
Thanks again- Justin
On Mon, May 17, 2021, 6:49 AM George <george.coy@gmail.com
<mailto:george.coy@gmail.com> > wrote:
The M14 part numbers are:
10-04-46 Intake gasket upper pipe to cylinder 3 per cylinder
14-04-542 Exhaust Gasket (doughnut)
10-04-26 Intake gasket lower pipe to supercharger case
George Coy
MotorstarNA
714 Airport Rd.
<https://www.google.com/maps/search/714+%0D%0A++Airport+Rd.+%0D%0A+++Swan
ton+%0D%0A++VT+05488?entry=gmail&source=g>
Swanton VT 05488
<https://www.google.com/maps/search/714+%0D%0A++Airport+Rd.+%0D%0A+++Swan
ton+%0D%0A++VT+05488?entry=gmail&source=g>
802-868-5633 off
802-363-5782 cell
george.coy@gmail.com <mailto:george.coy@gmail.com>
http://motorstarna.com/
SKYPE george.coy
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
<mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com>
<owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
<mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com> > On Behalf Of Richard
Goode
Sent: Monday, May 17, 2021 8:47 AM
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Re: intake/exhaust stack-to-cylinder rings... ?
Yes, in Europe we call them exhaust "olives". The standard size is 10 mm
thickness, but we realised that a certain number of people fail to
tighten the exhaust nuts on a regular basis; the exhaust plus olive then
"fret" against the cylinder head and wear it away, and in these cases we
manufacture thick olives to any size people might want. So the standard
olives are Euro 28 each and the thicker ones in any dimension (to order,
since we manufacture them) are Euro 38 each.
And the intake tube gaskets are of course different =93 it is a
rubber ring at the supercharger end, for which we charge Euro 4 per ring
and at the cylinder end it is a paper gasket, but in order to get the
appropriate thickness one needs three of them per intake tube. Cost is
Euro 2 per gasket, so Euro 6 for the three and so a total of Euro 10 per
intake tube!
All are in stock with Aerometal in Hungary, so let us know if anyone
needs them.
Richard
RICHARD GOODE AEROBATICS
Rhodds Farm, Lyonshall, Hereford, HR5 3LW, UK
Tel: +44 (0)1544 340120 Fax: +44 (0)1544 340129
e-mail: <mailto:richard.goode@russianaeros.com>
richard.goode@russianaeros.com
<http://www.russianaeros.com> www.russianaeros.com
WORLD LEADERS IN RUSSIAN SPORTING AIRCRAFT & ENGINES
In partnership with Aerometal Kft, Hungary.
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
<mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com>
<owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
<mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com> > On Behalf Of Mark
Pennington
Sent: 17 May 2021 12:05
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: intake/exhaust stack-to-cylinder rings... ?
Justin
I am sure there are part numbers. But I have purchased those from Doug
and Richard.
The exhaust are called exhaust donuts in the US.
I think, correct me if I am wrong across the pond they call them exhaust
olive gaskets.
The seals for the intake side are paper from the factory. There is an
upgrade to a red viton Oring seal that I installed 2 years ago. Zero
problems since then. I completely cleaned out the gasket channel and
installed two of the new paper gaskets then the viton ORing. It seals
perfectly. I took one of the orings out this last condition inspection
and the paper gaskets were still clean and like new. No oil seepage
around the Oring.
I am sure Doug has all of this stuff. I am running an M14P on my CJ.
The parts could be the same.
Reach out to Doug and Richard if need be.
Mark
N621CJ.
On Sun, May 16, 2021 at 6:57 PM Justin Drafts <
<mailto:draftsjust417@gmail.com> draftsjust417@gmail.com> wrote:
All-
Do we have the part number for
the metal rings/donuts that fit between
the intake/exhaust stacks and the back if the cylinder heads?
I can't find it in the parts catalogs...
???
Thanks--
Justin/N280NC
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Richard
I apologize. That was my error. I thought what you did for me last year
was a standard thing.
Glad to know how flexible you are with these.
It fixed all of my problems
Mark
N621CJ
On Mon, May 17, 2021 at 2:41 PM Richard Goode <
richard.goode@russianaeros.com> wrote:
> I'm sorry if I haven't been clear =93 the standard size is 10 mm th
ickness
> and then we will make them in exactly any other size according to a
> customer=99s requirements. So you are not stuck with 10/12/14 mm!
>
>
> Richard
>
>
> *RICHARD GOODE AEROBATICS*
>
> *Rhodds Farm, Lyonshall, Hereford, HR5 3LW, UK*
>
> Tel: +44 (0)1544 340120 Fax: +44 (0)1544 340129
>
> e-mail: richard.goode@russianaeros.com
>
> www.russianaeros.com
>
> *W**ORLD LEADERS IN RUSSIAN SPORTING AIRCRAFT & ENGINES*
>
> *In partnership with Aerometal Kft, Hungary.*
>
>
> *From:* owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com <
> owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com> *On Behalf Of *Mark Pennington
> *Sent:* 17 May 2021 17:50
> *To:* yak-list@matronics.com
> *Subject:* Re: Yak-List: Re: intake/exhaust stack-to-cylinder rings... ?
>
>
> Walt.
>
>
> I just had this education recently from Richard.
>
>
> They make the exhaust olives in three thickness.
>
>
> 10, 12 and 14mm to help fit the flanges better.
>
>
> Since I used these my exhaust fits very well and stays tight. Grinding
> those would be difficult at best.
>
>
> I have attached a photo of what Richard supplies. I understand Richard
> uses these on a regular basis
>
> On his side of the pond
>
>
> Mark
>
> N621CJ
>
>
> On Mon, May 17, 2021 at 12:39 PM Walter Lannon <wlannon@shaw.ca> wrote:
>
> Hi Justin:
>
>
> The exhaust seals are identical for both the HS and M14 engines.
>
>
> There are stainless steel units manufactured by one of the US exhaust
> manufacturers. I have those on my engine but would caution any one
> considering same to be aware of the fact that as theses units are pressed
> in manufacture they leave a sharp protruding edge that will destroy the
> aluminum alloy cylinder seat.
>
>
> If they are perfectly centered they will work however I have yet to see
> an exhaust system made to perfectly align with all of the cylinder seats.
>
>
> I have modified these for my own use but it is an extremely dangerous han
d
> grinding operation.
>
>
> Walt
>
>
> *From:* Justin Drafts <draftsjust417@gmail.com> r
>
> *Sent:* Monday, May 17, 2021 8:14 AM
>
> *To:* yak-list@matronics.com
>
> *Subject:* Re: Yak-List: Re: intake/exhaust stack-to-cylinder rings... ?
>
>
> Great info all, thanks-
>
> I learn something every time I open the cowls.
>
> Thought there were olives/rings on both intakes *&* exhausts, good to
> know just exhaust stacks and fewer req'd.
>
>
> I'm running a Chinese Housai, any info on those ring p/n's?
>
>
> Thanks again- Justin
>
>
> On Mon, May 17, 2021, 6:49 AM George <george.coy@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> The M14 part numbers are:
>
>
> 10-04-46 Intake gasket upper pipe to cylinder 3 per cylinder
>
> 14-04-542 Exhaust Gasket (doughnut)
>
> 10-04-26 Intake gasket lower pipe to supercharger case
>
>
> *George Coy*
>
> *MotorstarNA*
>
> *714 Airport Rd.
> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/714+%0D%0A++Airport+Rd.+%0D%0A+++Swan
ton+%0D%0A++VT+05488?entry=gmail&source=g>*
>
> *Swanton VT 05488
> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/714+%0D%0A++Airport+Rd.+%0D%0A+++Swan
ton+%0D%0A++VT+05488?entry=gmail&source=g>*
>
> *802-868-5633 off*
>
> *802-363-5782 cell*
>
> *george.coy@gmail.com <george.coy@gmail.com>*
>
> *http://motorstarna.com/ <http://motorstarna.com/>*
>
> *SKYPE george.coy*
>
>
> *From:* owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com <
> owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com> *On Behalf Of *Richard Goode
> *Sent:* Monday, May 17, 2021 8:47 AM
> *To:* yak-list@matronics.com
> *Subject:* RE: Yak-List: Re: intake/exhaust stack-to-cylinder rings... ?
>
>
> Yes, in Europe we call them exhaust "olives". The standard size is 10 mm
> thickness, but we realised that a certain number of people fail to tighte
n
> the exhaust nuts on a regular basis; the exhaust plus olive then "fret"
> against the cylinder head and wear it away, and in these cases we
> manufacture thick olives to any size people might want. So the standard
> olives are Euro 28 each and the thicker ones in any dimension (to order,
> since we manufacture them) are Euro 38 each.
>
>
> And the intake tube gaskets are of course different =93 it is a rub
ber ring
> at the supercharger end, for which we charge Euro 4 per ring and at the
> cylinder end it is a paper gasket, but in order to get the appropriate
> thickness one needs three of them per intake tube. Cost is Euro 2 per
> gasket, so Euro 6 for the three and so a total of Euro 10 per intake tube
!
>
>
> All are in stock with Aerometal in Hungary, so let us know if anyone need
s
> them.
>
>
> Richard
>
> *RICHARD GOODE AEROBATICS*
>
> *Rhodds Farm, Lyonshall, Hereford, HR5 3LW, UK*
>
> Tel: +44 (0)1544 340120 Fax: +44 (0)1544 340129
>
> e-mail: richard.goode@russianaeros.com
>
> www.russianaeros.com
>
> *WORLD LEADERS IN RUSSIAN SPORTING AIRCRAFT & ENGINES*
>
> *In partnership with Aerometal Kft, Hungary.*
>
>
> *From:* owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com <
> owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com> *On Behalf Of *Mark Pennington
> *Sent:* 17 May 2021 12:05
> *To:* yak-list@matronics.com
> *Subject:* Re: Yak-List: Re: intake/exhaust stack-to-cylinder rings... ?
>
>
> Justin
>
>
> I am sure there are part numbers. But I have purchased those from Doug
> and Richard.
>
>
> The exhaust are called exhaust donuts in the US.
>
> I think, correct me if I am wrong across the pond they call them exhaust
> olive gaskets.
>
>
> The seals for the intake side are paper from the factory. There is an
> upgrade to a red viton Oring seal that I installed 2 years ago. Zero
> problems since then. I completely cleaned out the gasket channel and
> installed two of the new paper gaskets then the viton ORing. It seals
> perfectly. I took one of the orings out this last condition inspection an
d
> the paper gaskets were still clean and like new. No oil seepage around t
he
> Oring.
>
>
> I am sure Doug has all of this stuff. I am running an M14P on my CJ. Th
e
> parts could be the same.
>
>
> Reach out to Doug and Richard if need be.
>
>
> Mark
>
> N621CJ.
>
>
> On Sun, May 16, 2021 at 6:57 PM Justin Drafts <draftsjust417@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> All-
>
> Do we have the part number for
>
> the metal rings/donuts that fit between
>
> the intake/exhaust stacks and the back if the cylinder heads?
>
> I can't find it in the parts catalogs...
>
> ???
>
> Thanks--
>
> Justin/N280NC
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: intake/exhaust stack-to-cylinder rings... ? |
Am I correct in assuming you are referring to the overall width of the
unit rather than the thickness of the steel used in manufacture. Or
are these manufactured from a solid block of material? If so what is
the material?
Thanks;
Walt
From: Richard Goode
Sent: Monday, May 17, 2021 11:12 AM
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Re: intake/exhaust stack-to-cylinder rings... ?
I'm sorry if I haven't been clear =93 the standard size is 10 mm
thickness and then we will make them in exactly any other size according
to a customer=99s requirements. So you are not stuck with 10/12/14
mm!
Richard
RICHARD GOODE AEROBATICS
Rhodds Farm, Lyonshall, Hereford, HR5 3LW, UK
Tel: +44 (0)1544 340120 Fax: +44 (0)1544 340129
e-mail: richard.goode@russianaeros.com
www.russianaeros.com
WORLD LEADERS IN RUSSIAN SPORTING AIRCRAFT & ENGINES
In partnership with Aerometal Kft, Hungary.
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
<owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com> On Behalf Of Mark Pennington
Sent: 17 May 2021 17:50
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: intake/exhaust stack-to-cylinder rings... ?
Walt.
I just had this education recently from Richard.
They make the exhaust olives in three thickness.
10, 12 and 14mm to help fit the flanges better.
Since I used these my exhaust fits very well and stays tight. Grinding
those would be difficult at best.
I have attached a photo of what Richard supplies. I understand Richard
uses these on a regular basis
On his side of the pond
Mark
N621CJ
On Mon, May 17, 2021 at 12:39 PM Walter Lannon <wlannon@shaw.ca> wrote:
Hi Justin:
The exhaust seals are identical for both the HS and M14 engines.
There are stainless steel units manufactured by one of the US exhaust
manufacturers. I have those on my engine but would caution any one
considering same to be aware of the fact that as theses units are
pressed in manufacture they leave a sharp protruding edge that will
destroy the aluminum alloy cylinder seat.
If they are perfectly centered they will work however I have yet to
see an exhaust system made to perfectly align with all of the cylinder
seats.
I have modified these for my own use but it is an extremely dangerous
hand grinding operation.
Walt
From: Justin Drafts r
Sent: Monday, May 17, 2021 8:14 AM
To: yak-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: intake/exhaust stack-to-cylinder rings... ?
Great info all, thanks-
I learn something every time I open the cowls.
Thought there were olives/rings on both intakes & exhausts, good to
know just exhaust stacks and fewer req'd.
I'm running a Chinese Housai, any info on those ring p/n's?
Thanks again- Justin
On Mon, May 17, 2021, 6:49 AM George <george.coy@gmail.com> wrote:
The M14 part numbers are:
10-04-46 Intake gasket upper pipe to cylinder 3 per cylinder
14-04-542 Exhaust Gasket (doughnut)
10-04-26 Intake gasket lower pipe to supercharger case
George Coy
MotorstarNA
714 Airport Rd.
Swanton VT 05488
802-868-5633 off
802-363-5782 cell
george.coy@gmail.com
http://motorstarna.com/
SKYPE george.coy
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
<owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com> On Behalf Of Richard Goode
Sent: Monday, May 17, 2021 8:47 AM
To: yak-list@matronics.com
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Re: intake/exhaust stack-to-cylinder rings...
?
Yes, in Europe we call them exhaust "olives". The standard size is
10 mm thickness, but we realised that a certain number of people fail to
tighten the exhaust nuts on a regular basis; the exhaust plus olive then
"fret" against the cylinder head and wear it away, and in these cases we
manufacture thick olives to any size people might want. So the standard
olives are Euro 28 each and the thicker ones in any dimension (to order,
since we manufacture them) are Euro 38 each.
And the intake tube gaskets are of course different =93 it is
a rubber ring at the supercharger end, for which we charge Euro 4 per
ring and at the cylinder end it is a paper gasket, but in order to get
the appropriate thickness one needs three of them per intake tube. Cost
is Euro 2 per gasket, so Euro 6 for the three and so a total of Euro 10
per intake tube!
All are in stock with Aerometal in Hungary, so let us know if anyone
needs them.
Richard
RICHARD GOODE AEROBATICS
Rhodds Farm, Lyonshall, Hereford, HR5 3LW, UK
Tel: +44 (0)1544 340120 Fax: +44 (0)1544 340129
e-mail: richard.goode@russianaeros.com
www.russianaeros.com
WORLD LEADERS IN RUSSIAN SPORTING AIRCRAFT & ENGINES
In partnership with Aerometal Kft, Hungary.
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
<owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com> On Behalf Of Mark Pennington
Sent: 17 May 2021 12:05
To: yak-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: intake/exhaust stack-to-cylinder rings...
?
Justin
I am sure there are part numbers. But I have purchased those from
Doug and Richard.
The exhaust are called exhaust donuts in the US.
I think, correct me if I am wrong across the pond they call them
exhaust olive gaskets.
The seals for the intake side are paper from the factory. There is
an upgrade to a red viton Oring seal that I installed 2 years ago. Zero
problems since then. I completely cleaned out the gasket channel and
installed two of the new paper gaskets then the viton ORing. It seals
perfectly. I took one of the orings out this last condition inspection
and the paper gaskets were still clean and like new. No oil seepage
around the Oring.
I am sure Doug has all of this stuff. I am running an M14P on my
CJ. The parts could be the same.
Reach out to Doug and Richard if need be.
Mark
N621CJ.
On Sun, May 16, 2021 at 6:57 PM Justin Drafts
<draftsjust417@gmail.com> wrote:
All-
Do we have the part number for
the metal rings/donuts that fit between
the intake/exhaust stacks and the back if the cylinder heads?
I can't find it in the parts catalogs...
???
Thanks--
Justin/N280NC
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