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1. 07:34 AM - Re: Pneumatic Rigid Line Replacement (bill wade)
2. 08:42 AM - Oil Pressure Adjustment (Jon Boede)
3. 08:52 AM - Re: Oil Pressure Adjustment (A. Dennis Savarese)
4. 10:27 AM - Re: Oil Pressure Adjustment (Terry Calloway)
5. 11:07 AM - Re: Pneumatic Rigid Line Replacement (Rico Jaeger)
6. 01:42 PM - Re: Pneumatic Rigid Line Replacement (Mark Bitterlich)
7. 01:52 PM - Re: Pneumatic Rigid Line Replacement (Todd Bohlman)
8. 01:59 PM - Re: Pneumatic Rigid Line Replacement (Mark Bitterlich)
9. 02:47 PM - Re: Pneumatic Rigid Line Replacement (Anthony Savarese)
10. 02:51 PM - Re: Pneumatic Rigid Line Replacement (Rico Jaeger)
11. 02:55 PM - Re: Pneumatic Rigid Line Replacement (Rico Jaeger)
12. 03:00 PM - Re: Pneumatic Rigid Line Replacement (Rico Jaeger)
13. 03:14 PM - Re: Pneumatic Rigid Line Replacement (Todd Bohlman)
14. 03:35 PM - Re: Pneumatic Rigid Line Replacement (Mark Pennington)
15. 05:20 PM - Re: Pneumatic Rigid Line Replacement (Anthony Savarese)
16. 05:22 PM - Re: Pneumatic Rigid Line Replacement (W LANNON)
17. 06:08 PM - Re: Pneumatic Rigid Line Replacement (Anthony Savarese)
18. 06:15 PM - Re: Oil Pressure Adjustment (Jon Boede)
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| Subject: | Re: Pneumatic Rigid Line Replacement |
Rico I remember a guy using=C2-Stainless Steel Braided Hose with AN fitt
ings
On Saturday, June 26, 2021, 02:51:46 PM EDT, Rico Jaeger <rocknpilot@ho
tmail.com> wrote:
Hey, All!
I need to replace some problematic original Russian =C2-rigid air lines.
I would like to do that with a more flexible aluminum tubing. Has anyone el
se done this? And do you have any recommendations on what to use and where
to get it? Thanks so much Fly safe!
Rico Jaeger
915 S 11th Ave
Wausau, WI 54401
715. 529.7426
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Yak 52 / N21YK. ^/---//-X
Hangar 21 / AUW. //
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Ryan PT-22. ^/---//-X
Hangar 35 / AUW. //
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| Subject: | Oil Pressure Adjustment |
If I want to adjust the oil pressure from 4 to 5, Ive found the screw to turn,
but:
What direction and how much?
Jon
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| Subject: | Re: Oil Pressure Adjustment |
Clockwise to increase. Counter clockwise to decrease. Try 1/4 turn at
at time and read the oil pressure instrument.
A. Dennis Savarese
334-546-8182
www.yak-52.com
On 6/27/2021 11:41 AM, Jon Boede wrote:
>
> If I want to adjust the oil pressure from 4 to 5, Ive found the screw to turn,
but:
>
> What direction and how much?
>
> Jon
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Oil Pressure Adjustment |
As a mechanics tip, when making fine adjustments I always mark an index li
ne on my screw driver with a Sharpie so I am sure to measure the results o
f the adjusting turn.=0A=0A=0APumper=0A=0AOn June 27, 2021 at 10:57 AM, "A
. Dennis Savarese" <dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net> wrote:=0A=0A=0A--> Yak-Li
st message posted by: "A. Dennis Savarese" <dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net>=0A
=0AClockwise to increase.=C2- Counter clockwise to decrease.=C2- Try 1
/4 turn at=0Aat time and read the oil pressure instrument.=0A=0AA. Dennis
Savarese=0A334-546-8182=0Awww.yak-52.com=0A=0AOn 6/27/2021 11:41 AM, Jon B
il.com>=0A=0A=0AIf I want to adjust the oil pressure from 4 to 5, I=99
ve found the screw to turn, but:=0A=0A=0AWhat direction and how much?=0A=0A
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| Subject: | Re: Pneumatic Rigid Line Replacement |
That sounds awesome! Does anyone have specks for that swap?? Assuming the o
riginal B nut is retained=85? Thanks, Bill!!!
Rico Jaeger
915 S 11th Ave
Wausau, WI 54401
715. 529.7426
//
Yak 52 / N21YK. ^/---//-X
Hangar 21 / AUW. //
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Ryan PT-22. ^/---//-X
Hangar 35 / AUW. //
EAA #345804
Warbird #13705
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From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com <owner-yak-list-server@matronics.
com> on behalf of bill wade <bwade154@yahoo.com>
Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2021 9:31 AM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Pneumatic Rigid Line Replacement
Rico I remember a guy using Stainless Steel Braided Hose with AN fittings
On Saturday, June 26, 2021, 02:51:46 PM EDT, Rico Jaeger <rocknpilot@hotmai
l.com> wrote:
Hey, All!
I need to replace some problematic original Russian rigid air lines. I wou
ld like to do that with a more flexible aluminum tubing. Has anyone else do
ne this? And do you have any recommendations on what to use and where to ge
t it? Thanks so much=85 Fly safe!
Rico Jaeger
915 S 11th Ave
Wausau, WI 54401
715. 529.7426
//
Yak 52 / N21YK. ^/---//-X
Hangar 21 / AUW. //
//
Ryan PT-22. ^/---//-X
Hangar 35 / AUW. //
EAA #345804
Warbird #13705
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| Subject: | Re: Pneumatic Rigid Line Replacement |
https://www.92ndwestaviation.com/m14p-radial-engine
On Sun, Jun 27, 2021 at 1:47 PM Mark Bitterlich <
markbitterlich@embarqmail.com> wrote:
> Rico. I'm quite surprised no one has made this clear. AN fitting thread
s
> will not go on Russian threaded fittings. You can make a kind of lashup
> using standard Teflon core stainless steel flex hose, if you can assemble
> it with the Russian fitting on top of the flare end, but I am not aware o
f
> anyone selling that pre-assembled. And.... it is kind of a huge deal to
> convert the whole airplane over to "AN" standard.
>
> What would be way cool is if someone made cross series adapters. Seems
> to me I remember someone selling such an animal years ago for the engine
> fittings. I think it was the Pitts Model 12. You might look into that.
>
> It is possible to use the Russian nuts on American pipe, with the proper
> flare, but I believe someone already explained that.
>
> AN fittings will not fit on Russian metric B nuts.
>
> Good Luck!
>
> MGB
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Rico Jaeger <rocknpilot@hotmail.com>
> Date: 6/27/21 2:12 PM (GMT-05:00)
> To: yak-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Pneumatic Rigid Line Replacement
>
> That sounds awesome! Does anyone have specks for that swap?? Assuming the
> original B nut is retained? Thanks, Bill!!!
>
>
> Rico Jaeger
> 915 S 11th Ave
> Wausau, WI 54401
> 715. 529.7426
> //
> Yak 52 / N21YK. ^/---//-X
> Hangar 21 / AUW. //
> //
> Ryan PT-22. ^/---//-X
> Hangar 35 / AUW. //
>
> EAA #345804
> Warbird #13705
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com <
> owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com> on behalf of bill wade <
> bwade154@yahoo.com>
> *Sent:* Sunday, June 27, 2021 9:31 AM
> *To:* yak-list@matronics.com <yak-list@matronics.com>
> *Subject:* Re: Yak-List: Pneumatic Rigid Line Replacement
>
> Rico I remember a guy using Stainless Steel Braided Hose with AN fittings
>
> On Saturday, June 26, 2021, 02:51:46 PM EDT, Rico Jaeger <
> rocknpilot@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Hey, All!
>
> I need to replace some problematic original Russian rigid air lines. I
> would like to do that with a more flexible aluminum tubing. Has anyone el
se
> done this? And do you have any recommendations on what to use and where t
o
> get it? Thanks so much Fly safe!
>
> Rico Jaeger
> 915 S 11th Ave
> Wausau, WI 54401
> 715. 529.7426
> //
> Yak 52 / N21YK. ^/---//-X
> Hangar 21 / AUW. //
> //
> Ryan PT-22. ^/---//-X
> Hangar 35 / AUW. //
>
> EAA #345804
> Warbird #13705
>
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| Subject: | Re: Pneumatic Rigid Line Replacement |
The only AN part that applies here is an AN 4 sleeve that fits over the Amer
ican 1/4=9D 5052 tubing and inside of the metric B nut. ie: slide th
e metric B nut over the tubing, then the AN4 sleeve. Then flare the tubing.
5052 aluminum is soft enough to =9Cform=9D over the metric male f
lare even if the 5052 tubing is flared with the standard AN flaring tool.
Dennis
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> On Jun 27, 2021, at 5:00 PM, Mark Bitterlich <markbitterlich@embarqmail.co
m> wrote:
>
> =EF=BBThanks Todd! That is EXACTLY what I remember seeing!
>
> You're da shit dude.
>
> Mark
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Todd Bohlman <tbohlman@gmail.com>
> Date: 6/27/21 4:55 PM (GMT-05:00)
> To: yak-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Pneumatic Rigid Line Replacement
>
> https://www.92ndwestaviation.com/m14p-radial-engine
>
>> On Sun, Jun 27, 2021 at 1:47 PM Mark Bitterlich <markbitterlich@embarqmai
l.com> wrote:
>> Rico. I'm quite surprised no one has made this clear. AN fitting thread
s will not go on Russian threaded fittings. You can make a kind of lashup u
sing standard Teflon core stainless steel flex hose, if you can assemble it w
ith the Russian fitting on top of the flare end, but I am not aware of anyon
e selling that pre-assembled. And.... it is kind of a huge deal to convert t
he whole airplane over to "AN" standard.
>>
>> What would be way cool is if someone made cross series adapters. Seems t
o me I remember someone selling such an animal years ago for the engine fitt
ings. I think it was the Pitts Model 12. You might look into that.
>>
>> It is possible to use the Russian nuts on American pipe, with the proper f
lare, but I believe someone already explained that.
>>
>> AN fittings will not fit on Russian metric B nuts.
>>
>> Good Luck!
>>
>> MGB
>>
>> -------- Original message --------
>> From: Rico Jaeger <rocknpilot@hotmail.com>
>> Date: 6/27/21 2:12 PM (GMT-05:00)
>> To: yak-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Pneumatic Rigid Line Replacement
>>
>> That sounds awesome! Does anyone have specks for that swap?? Assuming the
original B nut is retained? Thanks, Bill!!!
>>
>>
>> Rico Jaeger
>> 915 S 11th Ave
>> Wausau, WI 54401
>> 715. 529.7426
>> //
>> Yak 52 / N21YK. ^/---//-X
>> Hangar 21 / AUW. //
>> //
>> Ryan PT-22. ^/---//-X
>> Hangar 35 / AUW. //
>>
>> EAA #345804
>> Warbird #13705
>>
>> From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com <owner-yak-list-server@matronic
s.com> on behalf of bill wade <bwade154@yahoo.com>
>> Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2021 9:31 AM
>> To: yak-list@matronics.com <yak-list@matronics.com>
>> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Pneumatic Rigid Line Replacement
>>
>> Rico I remember a guy using Stainless Steel Braided Hose with AN fittings
>>
>> On Saturday, June 26, 2021, 02:51:46 PM EDT, Rico Jaeger <rocknpilot@hotm
ail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Hey, All!
>>
>> I need to replace some problematic original Russian rigid air lines. I w
ould like to do that with a more flexible aluminum tubing. Has anyone else d
one this? And do you have any recommendations on what to use and where to ge
t it? Thanks so much Fly safe!
>>
>> Rico Jaeger
>> 915 S 11th Ave
>> Wausau, WI 54401
>> 715. 529.7426
>> //
>> Yak 52 / N21YK. ^/---//-X
>> Hangar 21 / AUW. //
>> //
>> Ryan PT-22. ^/---//-X
>> Hangar 35 / AUW. //
>>
>> EAA #345804
>> Warbird #13705
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| Subject: | Re: Pneumatic Rigid Line Replacement |
I get that, Mark. Was planning on swapping the line only, (newly flared) bu
t reusing the B nut. I have a metric flaring kit, so it sounds simple enoug
h=85? I think it=92s just a 6mm OD that is crucial=85 Or am I missing somet
hing? Either way, THANK YOU for your input, Guys!!!
Rico Jaeger
915 S 11th Ave
Wausau, WI 54401
715. 529.7426
//
Yak 52 / N21YK. ^/---//-X
Hangar 21 / AUW. //
//
Ryan PT-22. ^/---//-X
Hangar 35 / AUW. //
EAA #345804
Warbird #13705
________________________________
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com <owner-yak-list-server@matronics.
com> on behalf of Mark Bitterlich <markbitterlich@embarqmail.com>
Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2021 3:58 PM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Pneumatic Rigid Line Replacement
Thanks Todd! That is EXACTLY what I remember seeing!
You're da shit dude.
Mark
-------- Original message --------
From: Todd Bohlman <tbohlman@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Pneumatic Rigid Line Replacement
https://www.92ndwestaviation.com/m14p-radial-engine
On Sun, Jun 27, 2021 at 1:47 PM Mark Bitterlich <markbitterlich@embarqmail.
com<mailto:markbitterlich@embarqmail.com>> wrote:
Rico. I'm quite surprised no one has made this clear. AN fitting threads
will not go on Russian threaded fittings. You can make a kind of lashup us
ing standard Teflon core stainless steel flex hose, if you can assemble it
with the Russian fitting on top of the flare end, but I am not aware of any
one selling that pre-assembled. And.... it is kind of a huge deal to conve
rt the whole airplane over to "AN" standard.
What would be way cool is if someone made cross series adapters. Seems to
me I remember someone selling such an animal years ago for the engine fitt
ings. I think it was the Pitts Model 12. You might look into that.
It is possible to use the Russian nuts on American pipe, with the proper fl
are, but I believe someone already explained that.
AN fittings will not fit on Russian metric B nuts.
Good Luck!
MGB
-------- Original message --------
From: Rico Jaeger <rocknpilot@hotmail.com<mailto:rocknpilot@hotmail.com>>
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Pneumatic Rigid Line Replacement
That sounds awesome! Does anyone have specks for that swap?? Assuming the o
riginal B nut is retained=85? Thanks, Bill!!!
Rico Jaeger
915 S 11th Ave
Wausau, WI 54401
715. 529.7426
//
Yak 52 / N21YK. ^/---//-X
Hangar 21 / AUW. //
//
Ryan PT-22. ^/---//-X
Hangar 35 / AUW. //
EAA #345804
Warbird #13705
________________________________
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com<mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matr
onics.com> <owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com<mailto:owner-yak-list-serve
r@matronics.com>> on behalf of bill wade <bwade154@yahoo.com<mailto:bwade15
4@yahoo.com>>
Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2021 9:31 AM
cs.com<mailto:yak-list@matronics.com>>
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Pneumatic Rigid Line Replacement
Rico I remember a guy using Stainless Steel Braided Hose with AN fittings
On Saturday, June 26, 2021, 02:51:46 PM EDT, Rico Jaeger <rocknpilot@hotmai
l.com<mailto:rocknpilot@hotmail.com>> wrote:
Hey, All!
I need to replace some problematic original Russian rigid air lines. I wou
ld like to do that with a more flexible aluminum tubing. Has anyone else do
ne this? And do you have any recommendations on what to use and where to ge
t it? Thanks so much=85 Fly safe!
Rico Jaeger
915 S 11th Ave
Wausau, WI 54401
715. 529.7426
//
Yak 52 / N21YK. ^/---//-X
Hangar 21 / AUW. //
//
Ryan PT-22. ^/---//-X
Hangar 35 / AUW. //
EAA #345804
Warbird #13705
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| Subject: | Re: Pneumatic Rigid Line Replacement |
<<Metric to AN adapters>>Mark, you can thank Dr. Curtiss "Tater" Stinis for
that link.
-Todd
On Sun, Jun 27, 2021 at 3:05 PM Rico Jaeger <rocknpilot@hotmail.com> wrote:
> HEARgood grief.
>
>
> Rico Jaeger
> 915 S 11th Ave
> Wausau, WI 54401
> 715. 529.7426
> //
> Yak 52 / N21YK. ^/---//-X
> Hangar 21 / AUW. //
> //
> Ryan PT-22. ^/---//-X
> Hangar 35 / AUW. //
>
> EAA #345804
> Warbird #13705
> ------------------------------
> *From:* owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com <
> owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com> on behalf of Rico Jaeger <
> rocknpilot@hotmail.com>
> *Sent:* Sunday, June 27, 2021 4:54 PM
> *To:* Anthony Savarese <dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net>;
> yak-list@matronics.com <yak-list@matronics.com>
> *Subject:* Re: Yak-List: Pneumatic Rigid Line Replacement
>
> THAT is what I needed to here! Thank you, Dennis!!
>
>
> Rico Jaeger
> 915 S 11th Ave
> Wausau, WI 54401
> 715. 529.7426
> //
> Yak 52 / N21YK. ^/---//-X
> Hangar 21 / AUW. //
> //
> Ryan PT-22. ^/---//-X
> Hangar 35 / AUW. //
>
> EAA #345804
> Warbird #13705
> ------------------------------
> *From:* owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com <
> owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com> on behalf of Anthony Savarese <
> dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net>
> *Sent:* Sunday, June 27, 2021 4:46 PM
> *To:* yak-list@matronics.com <yak-list@matronics.com>
> *Subject:* Re: Yak-List: Pneumatic Rigid Line Replacement
>
> The only AN part that applies here is an AN 4 sleeve that fits over the
> American 1/4=9D 5052 tubing and inside of the metric B nut. ie: s
lide the
> metric B nut over the tubing, then the AN4 sleeve. Then flare the tubing.
>
> 5052 aluminum is soft enough to =9Cform=9D over the metric ma
le flare even if
> the 5052 tubing is flared with the standard AN flaring tool.
>
> Dennis
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jun 27, 2021, at 5:00 PM, Mark Bitterlich <
> markbitterlich@embarqmail.com> wrote:
>
> =EF=BBThanks Todd! That is EXACTLY what I remember seeing!
>
> You're da shit dude.
>
> Mark
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Todd Bohlman <tbohlman@gmail.com>
> Date: 6/27/21 4:55 PM (GMT-05:00)
> To: yak-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Pneumatic Rigid Line Replacement
>
> https://www.92ndwestaviation.com/m14p-radial-engine
>
> On Sun, Jun 27, 2021 at 1:47 PM Mark Bitterlich <
> markbitterlich@embarqmail.com> wrote:
>
> Rico. I'm quite surprised no one has made this clear. AN fitting thread
s
> will not go on Russian threaded fittings. You can make a kind of lashup
> using standard Teflon core stainless steel flex hose, if you can assemble
> it with the Russian fitting on top of the flare end, but I am not aware o
f
> anyone selling that pre-assembled. And.... it is kind of a huge deal to
> convert the whole airplane over to "AN" standard.
>
> What would be way cool is if someone made cross series adapters. Seems
> to me I remember someone selling such an animal years ago for the engine
> fittings. I think it was the Pitts Model 12. You might look into that.
>
> It is possible to use the Russian nuts on American pipe, with the proper
> flare, but I believe someone already explained that.
>
> AN fittings will not fit on Russian metric B nuts.
>
> Good Luck!
>
> MGB
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Rico Jaeger <rocknpilot@hotmail.com>
> Date: 6/27/21 2:12 PM (GMT-05:00)
> To: yak-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Pneumatic Rigid Line Replacement
>
> That sounds awesome! Does anyone have specks for that swap?? Assuming the
> original B nut is retained? Thanks, Bill!!!
>
>
> Rico Jaeger
> 915 S 11th Ave
> Wausau, WI 54401
> 715. 529.7426
> //
> Yak 52 / N21YK. ^/---//-X
> Hangar 21 / AUW. //
> //
> Ryan PT-22. ^/---//-X
> Hangar 35 / AUW. //
>
> EAA #345804
> Warbird #13705
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com <
> owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com> on behalf of bill wade <
> bwade154@yahoo.com>
> *Sent:* Sunday, June 27, 2021 9:31 AM
> *To:* yak-list@matronics.com <yak-list@matronics.com>
> *Subject:* Re: Yak-List: Pneumatic Rigid Line Replacement
>
> Rico I remember a guy using Stainless Steel Braided Hose with AN fittings
>
> On Saturday, June 26, 2021, 02:51:46 PM EDT, Rico Jaeger <
> rocknpilot@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Hey, All!
>
> I need to replace some problematic original Russian rigid air lines. I
> would like to do that with a more flexible aluminum tubing. Has anyone el
se
> done this? And do you have any recommendations on what to use and where t
o
> get it? Thanks so much Fly safe!
>
> Rico Jaeger
> 915 S 11th Ave
> Wausau, WI 54401
> 715. 529.7426
> //
> Yak 52 / N21YK. ^/---//-X
> Hangar 21 / AUW. //
> //
> Ryan PT-22. ^/---//-X
> Hangar 35 / AUW. //
>
> EAA #345804
> Warbird #13705
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Pneumatic Rigid Line Replacement |
Dennis is right as usual. I have had this conversation with him and Doug
many times. The only thing I would add is I have found that sometimes you
have to drill the B nut out to slide over the new tubing. Also, make sure
you use a 37 degree flaring tool. The flaring tool in your tool box for
American brake lines is a 34 degree flare.
You can get the 1/4" 37 degree sleeves at Aircraft spruce.
Clean up your metric B nuts and possibly drill them out. Some of my B nuts
go right over the new tubing and others don't.
Mark Pennington
N621CJ
On Sun, Jun 27, 2021 at 6:05 PM Rico Jaeger <rocknpilot@hotmail.com> wrote:
> HEARgood grief.
>
>
> Rico Jaeger
> 915 S 11th Ave
> Wausau, WI 54401
> 715. 529.7426
> //
> Yak 52 / N21YK. ^/---//-X
> Hangar 21 / AUW. //
> //
> Ryan PT-22. ^/---//-X
> Hangar 35 / AUW. //
>
> EAA #345804
> Warbird #13705
> ------------------------------
> *From:* owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com <
> owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com> on behalf of Rico Jaeger <
> rocknpilot@hotmail.com>
> *Sent:* Sunday, June 27, 2021 4:54 PM
> *To:* Anthony Savarese <dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net>;
> yak-list@matronics.com <yak-list@matronics.com>
> *Subject:* Re: Yak-List: Pneumatic Rigid Line Replacement
>
> THAT is what I needed to here! Thank you, Dennis!!
>
>
> Rico Jaeger
> 915 S 11th Ave
> Wausau, WI 54401
> 715. 529.7426
> //
> Yak 52 / N21YK. ^/---//-X
> Hangar 21 / AUW. //
> //
> Ryan PT-22. ^/---//-X
> Hangar 35 / AUW. //
>
> EAA #345804
> Warbird #13705
> ------------------------------
> *From:* owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com <
> owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com> on behalf of Anthony Savarese <
> dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net>
> *Sent:* Sunday, June 27, 2021 4:46 PM
> *To:* yak-list@matronics.com <yak-list@matronics.com>
> *Subject:* Re: Yak-List: Pneumatic Rigid Line Replacement
>
> The only AN part that applies here is an AN 4 sleeve that fits over the
> American 1/4=9D 5052 tubing and inside of the metric B nut. ie: s
lide the
> metric B nut over the tubing, then the AN4 sleeve. Then flare the tubing.
>
> 5052 aluminum is soft enough to =9Cform=9D over the metric ma
le flare even if
> the 5052 tubing is flared with the standard AN flaring tool.
>
> Dennis
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jun 27, 2021, at 5:00 PM, Mark Bitterlich <
> markbitterlich@embarqmail.com> wrote:
>
> =EF=BBThanks Todd! That is EXACTLY what I remember seeing!
>
> You're da shit dude.
>
> Mark
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Todd Bohlman <tbohlman@gmail.com>
> Date: 6/27/21 4:55 PM (GMT-05:00)
> To: yak-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Pneumatic Rigid Line Replacement
>
> https://www.92ndwestaviation.com/m14p-radial-engine
>
> On Sun, Jun 27, 2021 at 1:47 PM Mark Bitterlich <
> markbitterlich@embarqmail.com> wrote:
>
> Rico. I'm quite surprised no one has made this clear. AN fitting thread
s
> will not go on Russian threaded fittings. You can make a kind of lashup
> using standard Teflon core stainless steel flex hose, if you can assemble
> it with the Russian fitting on top of the flare end, but I am not aware o
f
> anyone selling that pre-assembled. And.... it is kind of a huge deal to
> convert the whole airplane over to "AN" standard.
>
> What would be way cool is if someone made cross series adapters. Seems
> to me I remember someone selling such an animal years ago for the engine
> fittings. I think it was the Pitts Model 12. You might look into that.
>
> It is possible to use the Russian nuts on American pipe, with the proper
> flare, but I believe someone already explained that.
>
> AN fittings will not fit on Russian metric B nuts.
>
> Good Luck!
>
> MGB
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Rico Jaeger <rocknpilot@hotmail.com>
> Date: 6/27/21 2:12 PM (GMT-05:00)
> To: yak-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Pneumatic Rigid Line Replacement
>
> That sounds awesome! Does anyone have specks for that swap?? Assuming the
> original B nut is retained? Thanks, Bill!!!
>
>
> Rico Jaeger
> 915 S 11th Ave
> Wausau, WI 54401
> 715. 529.7426
> //
> Yak 52 / N21YK. ^/---//-X
> Hangar 21 / AUW. //
> //
> Ryan PT-22. ^/---//-X
> Hangar 35 / AUW. //
>
> EAA #345804
> Warbird #13705
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com <
> owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com> on behalf of bill wade <
> bwade154@yahoo.com>
> *Sent:* Sunday, June 27, 2021 9:31 AM
> *To:* yak-list@matronics.com <yak-list@matronics.com>
> *Subject:* Re: Yak-List: Pneumatic Rigid Line Replacement
>
> Rico I remember a guy using Stainless Steel Braided Hose with AN fittings
>
> On Saturday, June 26, 2021, 02:51:46 PM EDT, Rico Jaeger <
> rocknpilot@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Hey, All!
>
> I need to replace some problematic original Russian rigid air lines. I
> would like to do that with a more flexible aluminum tubing. Has anyone el
se
> done this? And do you have any recommendations on what to use and where t
o
> get it? Thanks so much Fly safe!
>
> Rico Jaeger
> 915 S 11th Ave
> Wausau, WI 54401
> 715. 529.7426
> //
> Yak 52 / N21YK. ^/---//-X
> Hangar 21 / AUW. //
> //
> Ryan PT-22. ^/---//-X
> Hangar 35 / AUW. //
>
> EAA #345804
> Warbird #13705
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Pneumatic Rigid Line Replacement |
Rico,
If you do use 6mm tubing, reuse the metric sleeve from the section of tubing
you=99re replacing.
Dennis
Sent from my iPhone
> On Jun 27, 2021, at 5:53 PM, Rico Jaeger <rocknpilot@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> =EF=BB
> I get that, Mark. Was planning on swapping the line only, (newly flared) b
ut reusing the B nut. I have a metric flaring kit, so it sounds simple enoug
h? I think it=99s just a 6mm OD that is crucial Or a
m I missing something? Either way, THANK YOU for your input, Guys!!!
>
>
> Rico Jaeger
> 915 S 11th Ave
> Wausau, WI 54401
> 715. 529.7426
> //
> Yak 52 / N21YK. ^/---//-X
> Hangar 21 / AUW. //
> //
> Ryan PT-22. ^/---//-X
> Hangar 35 / AUW. //
>
> EAA #345804
> Warbird #13705
> From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com <owner-yak-list-server@matronics
.com> on behalf of Mark Bitterlich <markbitterlich@embarqmail.com>
> Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2021 3:58 PM
> To: yak-list@matronics.com <yak-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Pneumatic Rigid Line Replacement
>
> Thanks Todd! That is EXACTLY what I remember seeing!
>
> You're da shit dude.
>
> Mark
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Todd Bohlman <tbohlman@gmail.com>
> Date: 6/27/21 4:55 PM (GMT-05:00)
> To: yak-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Pneumatic Rigid Line Replacement
>
> https://www.92ndwestaviation.com/m14p-radial-engine
>
> On Sun, Jun 27, 2021 at 1:47 PM Mark Bitterlich <markbitterlich@embarqmail
.com> wrote:
> Rico. I'm quite surprised no one has made this clear. AN fitting threads
will not go on Russian threaded fittings. You can make a kind of lashup us
ing standard Teflon core stainless steel flex hose, if you can assemble it w
ith the Russian fitting on top of the flare end, but I am not aware of anyon
e selling that pre-assembled. And.... it is kind of a huge deal to convert t
he whole airplane over to "AN" standard.
>
> What would be way cool is if someone made cross series adapters. Seems t
o me I remember someone selling such an animal years ago for the engine fitt
ings. I think it was the Pitts Model 12. You might look into that.
>
> It is possible to use the Russian nuts on American pipe, with the proper f
lare, but I believe someone already explained that.
>
> AN fittings will not fit on Russian metric B nuts.
>
> Good Luck!
>
> MGB
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Rico Jaeger <rocknpilot@hotmail.com>
> Date: 6/27/21 2:12 PM (GMT-05:00)
> To: yak-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Pneumatic Rigid Line Replacement
>
> That sounds awesome! Does anyone have specks for that swap?? Assuming the o
riginal B nut is retained? Thanks, Bill!!!
>
>
> Rico Jaeger
> 915 S 11th Ave
> Wausau, WI 54401
> 715. 529.7426
> //
> Yak 52 / N21YK. ^/---//-X
> Hangar 21 / AUW. //
> //
> Ryan PT-22. ^/---//-X
> Hangar 35 / AUW. //
>
> EAA #345804
> Warbird #13705
>
> From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com <owner-yak-list-server@matronics
.com> on behalf of bill wade <bwade154@yahoo.com>
> Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2021 9:31 AM
> To: yak-list@matronics.com <yak-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Pneumatic Rigid Line Replacement
>
> Rico I remember a guy using Stainless Steel Braided Hose with AN fittings
>
> On Saturday, June 26, 2021, 02:51:46 PM EDT, Rico Jaeger <rocknpilot@hotma
il.com> wrote:
>
>
> Hey, All!
>
> I need to replace some problematic original Russian rigid air lines. I wo
uld like to do that with a more flexible aluminum tubing. Has anyone else do
ne this? And do you have any recommendations on what to use and where to get
it? Thanks so much Fly safe!
>
> Rico Jaeger
> 915 S 11th Ave
> Wausau, WI 54401
> 715. 529.7426
> //
> Yak 52 / N21YK. ^/---//-X
> Hangar 21 / AUW. //
> //
> Ryan PT-22. ^/---//-X
> Hangar 35 / AUW. //
>
> EAA #345804
> Warbird #13705
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| Subject: | Re: Pneumatic Rigid Line Replacement |
Hi Dennis; I made note of this process in my previous to Rico. What I have
found over the years in the conversion of 6 mm tube to 1/4" is the fitting
of the metric "B" nut over the AN4 Sleeve. It is necessary to increase the
shoulder dia. of the "B" nut a relatively small amount but enough to give s
ome consideration to the remaining axial bearing area of the nut shoulder w
hich must carry the full pressure load.
This area should be carefully examined for any existing discrepancies befor
e putting into service.
From: "Anthony Savarese" <dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net>
Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2021 2:46:34 PM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Pneumatic Rigid Line Replacement
The only AN part that applies here is an AN 4 sleeve that fits over the Ame
rican 1/4=9D 5052 tubing and inside of the metric B nut. ie: slide th
e metric B nut over the tubing, then the AN4 sleeve. Then flare the tubing.
5052 aluminum is soft enough to =9Cform=9D over the metric male
flare even if the 5052 tubing is flared with the standard AN flaring tool.
Dennis
Sent from my iPhone
On Jun 27, 2021, at 5:00 PM, Mark Bitterlich <markbitterlich@embarqmail.com
> wrote:
BQ_BEGIN
Thanks Todd! That is EXACTLY what I remember seeing!
You're da shit dude.
Mark
-------- Original message --------
From: Todd Bohlman <tbohlman@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Pneumatic Rigid Line Replacement
[ https://www.92ndwestaviation.com/m14p-radial-engine | https://www.92ndwes
taviation.com/m14p-radial-engine ]
On Sun, Jun 27, 2021 at 1:47 PM Mark Bitterlich < [ mailto:markbitterlich@e
mbarqmail.com | markbitterlich@embarqmail.com ] > wrote:
BQ_BEGIN
Rico. I'm quite surprised no one has made this clear. AN fitting threads wi
ll not go on Russian threaded fittings. You can make a kind of lashup using
standard Teflon core stainless steel flex hose, if you can assemble it wit
h the Russian fitting on top of the flare end, but I am not aware of anyone
selling that pre-assembled. And.... it is kind of a huge deal to convert t
he whole airplane over to "AN" standard.
What would be way cool is if someone made cross series adapters. Seems to m
e I remember someone selling such an animal years ago for the engine fittin
gs. I think it was the Pitts Model 12. You might look into that.
It is possible to use the Russian nuts on American pipe, with the proper fl
are, but I believe someone already explained that.
AN fittings will not fit on Russian metric B nuts.
Good Luck!
MGB
-------- Original message --------
From: Rico Jaeger < [ mailto:rocknpilot@hotmail.com | rocknpilot@hotmail.co
m ] >
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Pneumatic Rigid Line Replacement
That sounds awesome! Does anyone have specks for that swap?? Assuming the o
riginal B nut is retained? Thanks, Bill!!!
Rico Jaeger
915 S 11th Ave
Wausau, WI 54401
715. 529.7426
//
Yak 52 / N21YK. ^/---//-X
Hangar 21 / AUW. //
//
Ryan PT-22. ^/---//-X
Hangar 35 / AUW. //
EAA #345804
Warbird #13705
From: [ mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com | owner-yak-list-server@
matronics.com ] < [ mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com | owner-yak-
list-server@matronics.com ] > on behalf of bill wade < [ mailto:bwade154@ya
hoo.com | bwade154@yahoo.com ] >
Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2021 9:31 AM
ak-list@matronics.com | yak-list@matronics.com ] >
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Pneumatic Rigid Line Replacement
Rico I remember a guy using Stainless Steel Braided Hose with AN fittings
On Saturday, June 26, 2021, 02:51:46 PM EDT, Rico Jaeger < [ mailto:rocknpi
lot@hotmail.com | rocknpilot@hotmail.com ] > wrote:
Hey, All!
I need to replace some problematic original Russian rigid air lines. I woul
d like to do that with a more flexible aluminum tubing. Has anyone else don
e this? And do you have any recommendations on what to use and where to get
it? Thanks so much Fly safe!
Rico Jaeger
915 S 11th Ave
Wausau, WI 54401
715. 529.7426
//
Yak 52 / N21YK. ^/---//-X
Hangar 21 / AUW. //
//
Ryan PT-22. ^/---//-X
Hangar 35 / AUW. //
EAA #345804
Warbird #13705
BQ_END
BQ_END
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| Subject: | Re: Pneumatic Rigid Line Replacement |
Once again, Walt inevitably fills in the blanks. Both Walt and Mark mentione
d increasing the ID of the metric B nut, which I failed to mention in my pos
ts. Thank you Walt and Mark for putting the finishing touch on my post.
Dennis
Sent from my iPhone
> On Jun 27, 2021, at 8:24 PM, W LANNON <wlannon@shaw.ca> wrote:
>
> =EF=BB
> Hi Dennis; I made note of this process in my previous to Rico. What I ha
ve found over the years in the conversion of 6 mm tube to 1/4" is the fittin
g of the metric "B" nut over the AN4 Sleeve. It is necessary to increase the
shoulder dia. of the "B" nut a relatively small amount but enough to give s
ome consideration to the remaining axial bearing area of the nut shoulder wh
ich must carry the full pressure load.
>
> This area should be carefully examined for any existing discrepancies befo
re putting into service.
>
>
> From: "Anthony Savarese" <dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net>
> To: yak-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2021 2:46:34 PM
> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Pneumatic Rigid Line Replacement
>
> The only AN part that applies here is an AN 4 sleeve that fits over the Am
erican 1/4=9D 5052 tubing and inside of the metric B nut. ie: slide t
he metric B nut over the tubing, then the AN4 sleeve. Then flare the tubing.
> 5052 aluminum is soft enough to =9Cform=9D over the metric mal
e flare even if the 5052 tubing is flared with the standard AN flaring tool.
>
> Dennis
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jun 27, 2021, at 5:00 PM, Mark Bitterlich <markbitterlich@embarqmail.co
m> wrote:
>
> Thanks Todd! That is EXACTLY what I remember seeing!
>
> You're da shit dude.
>
> Mark
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Todd Bohlman <tbohlman@gmail.com>
> Date: 6/27/21 4:55 PM (GMT-05:00)
> To: yak-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Pneumatic Rigid Line Replacement
>
> https://www.92ndwestaviation.com/m14p-radial-engine
>
>> On Sun, Jun 27, 2021 at 1:47 PM Mark Bitterlich <markbitterlich@embarqmai
l.com> wrote:
>> Rico. I'm quite surprised no one has made this clear. AN fitting thread
s will not go on Russian threaded fittings. You can make a kind of lashup u
sing standard Teflon core stainless steel flex hose, if you can assemble it w
ith the Russian fitting on top of the flare end, but I am not aware of anyon
e selling that pre-assembled. And.... it is kind of a huge deal to convert t
he whole airplane over to "AN" standard.
>>
>> What would be way cool is if someone made cross series adapters. Seems t
o me I remember someone selling such an animal years ago for the engine fitt
ings. I think it was the Pitts Model 12. You might look into that.
>>
>> It is possible to use the Russian nuts on American pipe, with the proper f
lare, but I believe someone already explained that.
>>
>> AN fittings will not fit on Russian metric B nuts.
>>
>> Good Luck!
>>
>> MGB
>>
>> -------- Original message --------
>> From: Rico Jaeger <rocknpilot@hotmail.com>
>> Date: 6/27/21 2:12 PM (GMT-05:00)
>> To: yak-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Pneumatic Rigid Line Replacement
>>
>> That sounds awesome! Does anyone have specks for that swap?? Assuming the
original B nut is retained? Thanks, Bill!!!
>>
>>
>> Rico Jaeger
>> 915 S 11th Ave
>> Wausau, WI 54401
>> 715. 529.7426
>> //
>> Yak 52 / N21YK. ^/---//-X
>> Hangar 21 / AUW. //
>> //
>> Ryan PT-22. ^/---//-X
>> Hangar 35 / AUW. //
>>
>> EAA #345804
>> Warbird #13705
>>
>> From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com <owner-yak-list-server@matronic
s.com> on behalf of bill wade <bwade154@yahoo.com>
>> Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2021 9:31 AM
>> To: yak-list@matronics.com <yak-list@matronics.com>
>> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Pneumatic Rigid Line Replacement
>>
>> Rico I remember a guy using Stainless Steel Braided Hose with AN fittings
>>
>> On Saturday, June 26, 2021, 02:51:46 PM EDT, Rico Jaeger <rocknpilot@hotm
ail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Hey, All!
>>
>> I need to replace some problematic original Russian rigid air lines. I w
ould like to do that with a more flexible aluminum tubing. Has anyone else d
one this? And do you have any recommendations on what to use and where to ge
t it? Thanks so much Fly safe!
>>
>> Rico Jaeger
>> 915 S 11th Ave
>> Wausau, WI 54401
>> 715. 529.7426
>> //
>> Yak 52 / N21YK. ^/---//-X
>> Hangar 21 / AUW. //
>> //
>> Ryan PT-22. ^/---//-X
>> Hangar 35 / AUW. //
>>
>> EAA #345804
>> Warbird #13705
>
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| Subject: | Re: Oil Pressure Adjustment |
1/4 turn put me into heat balance at cruise power, albeit at 67C.
Oil pressure now 4.2 kg/cm^2. Will keep adjusting until I see no more than 6 at
T/O and see what pressure I get in cruise. Should be about 5.2+.
Thanks Dennis!
Jon
PS. Pumper: Im taking photos of the screw setting and drawing on them on my phone.
New School.
> On Jun 27, 2021, at 10:56 AM, A. Dennis Savarese <dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net>
wrote:
>
>
> Clockwise to increase. Counter clockwise to decrease. Try 1/4 turn at at time
and read the oil pressure instrument.
>
> A. Dennis Savarese
> 334-546-8182
> www.yak-52.com
>
>> On 6/27/2021 11:41 AM, Jon Boede wrote:
>>
>> If I want to adjust the oil pressure from 4 to 5, Ive found the screw to turn,
but:
>>
>> What direction and how much?
>>
>> Jon
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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