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1. 03:37 AM - Re: Yak-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 02/02/24 (Craig Payne)
2. 03:44 AM - Re: Mag Timing CD5 (Richard Goode)
3. 12:55 PM - Parachutes (Bill)
4. 10:22 PM - Re: Mag Timing CD5 (Justin Drafts)
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Subject: | Re: Yak-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 02/02/24 |
Reading through my old document from 2014 and CJ Maint. Vol I, Appendix
VII, the CD-5 mag setting resulted in total advance applicable to the
octane rating of the fuel the Chinese had at the time.
The M-14P total advance is a lower value, using the fixed magneto that
limits advance to 22-24 degrees by piston. ADJUSTING the setting of the
CD-5 to achieve the 24 degrees resulted in about a two degree retarded
value from what the Chinese used on a slower turning engine, using lower
octane.
These are conservative numbers, given the wide range of altitudes and air
density encountered during flight. Using manual leaning, the Huosai engine
can be adjusted to conditions by the pilot. On the M-14P, the carb settings
do the adjustments... how accurately was the carb was set?? Leaning for max
efficiency on flat engines differs from radials because radials distribute
the mixture more evenly to each cylinder. Pays your money, takes your
chances.
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> 1. 09:52 AM - Mag Timing CD5 (glipaz)
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> Subject: Yak-List: Mag Timing CD5
> From: "glipaz" <glipaz@yahoo.com>
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> Brain trust:
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> I know that on an M-14p with a Russian M9F magneto, timing on the prop is
> set at
> 14-16* BTDC. This translates to around 22-24* BTDC on the crank.
>
> Assuming an M-14p motor with CD-5 (Chinese)magnetos stamped 25*, what is
> the proper
> angle on the prop BTDC?
>
> According to Craig Paynes chart for this configuration it suggests 8.8*
> BTDC on
> the crank and 5.8* BTDC on the prop. I dont understand this figure.
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> Gil
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It is not quite so simple =93 but the attached paper might help!
Richard
RICHARD GOODE AEROBATICS
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Subject: Yak-List: Mag Timing CD5
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Brain trust:
I know that on an M-14p with a Russian M9F magneto, timing on the prop
is set at 14-16* BTDC. This translates to around 22-24* BTDC on the
crank.
Assuming an M-14p motor with CD-5 (Chinese)magnetos stamped 25*, what is
the proper angle on the prop BTDC?
According to Craig Payne=C3=A2=82=AC=84=A2s chart for this
configuration it suggests 8.8* BTDC on the crank and 5.8* BTDC on the
prop. I don=C3=A2=82=AC=84=A2t understand this figure.
Gil
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How much are used seat- pack chutes? Older but good condition.
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Subject: | Re: Mag Timing CD5 |
Very good document Richard, thanks!
Do you have such a document for the Chinese Housai?
Thanks,
Justin Drafts
N280NC
On Sat, Feb 3, 2024 at 3:50=AFAM Richard Goode <richard.goode@russian
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> It is not quite so simple =93 but the attached paper might help!
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> Richard
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> owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com> On Behalf Of glipaz
> Sent: 02 February 2024 17:52
> To: yak-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Yak-List: Mag Timing CD5
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> Brain trust:
>
>
> I know that on an M-14p with a Russian M9F magneto, timing on the prop is
> set at 14-16* BTDC. This translates to around 22-24* BTDC on the crank.
>
>
> Assuming an M-14p motor with CD-5 (Chinese)magnetos stamped 25*, what is
> the proper angle on the prop BTDC?
>
>
> According to Craig Payne=C3=A2=82=AC=84=A2s chart for this configur
ation it suggests 8.8*
> BTDC on the crank and 5.8* BTDC on the prop. I don=C3=A2=82=AC=84
=A2t understand this
> figure.
>
>
> Gil
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=513186#513186
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