---------------------------------------------------------- Zenith-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 12/26/02: 7 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 05:36 AM - mail to the net (Mac Wood) 2. 06:30 AM - Re: Rudder deflection (Grant Corriveau) 3. 10:44 AM - Re: Re: (reineros) 4. 12:02 PM - Re: lengthening 701 wings (reineros) 5. 02:40 PM - Holiday website pics (Paul Hartl) 6. 03:36 PM - Re: Rudder deflection (Larry C. McFarland) 7. 03:45 PM - Flash player (Larry C. McFarland) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 05:36:39 AM PST US From: "Mac Wood" Subject: Zenith-List: mail to the net --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Mac Wood" I just can't understand what you're on about Eric - If you belong to the PFA that's where you should be getting your info from.,not the CAA. If you want to get a qualified welder they have a list . I can recommend Paul Grellier from the Andover strut for one. But to go mouthing off about Chris Heintz who is probably the best ultralight designer in the west, is ridiculous,-where else can you get an all metal designed ultralight that is approved by the PFA and through them the CAA? As one who has built and flown my own KR with the endless help and a trial flight from American homebuilders I am embarrassed that you sent an email like that . If you have problems go to the PFA engineering site. Avoid the beurocracy -join the PFA Mac McConnell-Wood Southampton UK (weld inspector -Vulcan crew chief- retired) ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:30:53 AM PST US Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Rudder deflection From: Grant Corriveau --> Zenith-List message posted by: Grant Corriveau > From: "Dave Alberti" > To: >> >> I'm interested in the actual numbers any current 601 builders have for the > angular deflection on their finished planes. I don't recall offhand, but I think it's in the archives, along with some others, Grant ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 10:44:25 AM PST US From: "reineros" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: --> Zenith-List message posted by: "reineros" It is the considerate and level headed thinkers like Larry McFarland that make this hobby worth putting up with all the chafe that is so prevalent on lists like this one. Pleas continue to print all comments with out editing, it proves the value of the few who have valuable comments to make and makes it very clear who to pay attention to. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry C. McFarland" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: > --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Larry C. McFarland" > > Eric, > ZAC will sell a drawing for any engine mount they have > supported, (Subaru or 912). It's not their business to provide > engineering services for all engines that fit the envelope. > > Others preceed you in using the Continental and they may > have the drawings that have worked ,, if you ask. > > Documentation that would prove a safe mount would be unreadable > because most people are numerically challenged to this extent. > > Building a mount is not rocket science. There are a lot of articles that > show > the general approach to this. The key is to arm yourself with the knowlege > to accomplish the task. It's not a freebe just because a kit was purchased. > > Take a deep breath and have another go at it. > > Larry C. McFarland - 601hds and just studying the Soob mount. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Eric Mchugh" > To: > Subject: Zenith-List: Re: > > > > --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Eric Mchugh" > > > > I am one of the builders who cannot complete thier aircraft after been > > conned by chris hentz who is incapable of designing a mount. It will be > > quicker to do it yourself, you will get no sense or help from zenair . I > can > > prove that from there corespondance . I have built a jig and ready to > > produce a mount i am just looking for a CAA welder a qualified person that > > is .Thats something else zenair won't tel you .They cannot produce the > > documentation to confirm there welds/design are safe. > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 12:02:09 PM PST US From: "reineros" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: lengthening 701 wings --> Zenith-List message posted by: "reineros" I am interested in the French mods to the wings and how they stop the oil canning of the fuselage. How has your research on a English web site gone? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Victor Philip du Preez" Subject: Zenith-List: lengthening 701 wings > --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Victor Philip du Preez" > > I hope you can help me. In September 1999 CLAUDE posted this on the Zenith List. > At that time his e-mail address was claude.plathey@wanadoo.fr but is redundant now. > > 7. THE modification I should have made Build a 9.80m span wing instead of 8.22m. > Due to old UL regs now obsolete here, most 701s built in France had to have this > span. They fly MUCH better, I know a 701 with a Hirth F30 which is a HELL of STOL > and lands (in clean) within a handkerchief. > > Could you please elaborate on this comment regarding what should be done to the wing structure > to accommodate the lengthening of the wing. Where can I get more information? Anybody still > have contact with Claude? > > Thank you, > > Victor du Preez > 701 plans build, Pretoria, South Africa > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 02:40:26 PM PST US From: "Paul Hartl" Subject: Zenith-List: Holiday website pics --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Paul Hartl" Hey Bill, Thanks for the continuing inspiration - as well as Stratus engine mount info. You've just about got me convinced that silver is the best color for a Zodiac. BTW, is that blue sky reflecting off the top of your wings and fuselage in a couple of those shots? It's gorgeous! Happy New Year and soft landings always! Paul Paul Hartl, 601HDS Stratus Subaru Tail, rear fuse, central and outer wing panels completed; getting there! FS2002 Aircraft Website: http://home.mindspring.com/~pdhartl/ email: pdhartl@mindspring.com or paul_hartl@communityschool.org Sun Valley, Idaho 208-788-9147 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 03:36:15 PM PST US From: "Larry C. McFarland" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Rudder deflection --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Larry C. McFarland" Grant, My rudder gets 28 degrees each way, stabilizer, up 32 degrees and down 25. Not sure about ailerons right now. Larry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Grant Corriveau" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Rudder deflection > --> Zenith-List message posted by: Grant Corriveau > > > From: "Dave Alberti" > > To: > >> > >> I'm interested in the actual numbers any current 601 builders have for the > > angular deflection on their finished planes. > > I don't recall offhand, but I think it's in the archives, along with some > others, > > Grant > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 03:45:30 PM PST US From: "Larry C. McFarland" Subject: Zenith-List: Flash player --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Larry C. McFarland" Fellow builders, Recently my website menu was revised by a newer version of Flash player and some people were unable to see the menu to navigate the site. Sorry about that. A short download which is a legitimate freebe, is available below which will resolve that problem. http://www.macromedia.com/shockwave/download/download.cgi?P1_Prod_VersionSh Thanks Larry C McFarland - 601hds @ macsmachine.com