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1. 04:07 AM - Undercarriage..... (Benford2@aol.com)
2. 11:53 AM - tail dragger on floats? (Martin Nackman)
3. 02:48 PM - Re: Undercarriage..... (Phil Maxson)
4. 02:54 PM - Re: tail dragger on floats? (Bryan Martin)
5. 03:36 PM - Re: tail dragger on floats? (Larry C. McFarland)
6. 05:29 PM - CH-640 Assembly CD (Jeff Paden)
7. 07:09 PM - Re: tail dragger on floats? (Darryl West)
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| Subject: | Undercarriage..... |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Benford2@aol.com
On my 801 kit it is apparent that the gear was bent using a brake press. At
each bend station there is writing on the material of the angle needed and
there are slight marks on the surface where the shoes sat while the bend was
made. I would have LOVED to have gun drilled brake lines in my gear. Being a
Bush plane I am betting sooner then later those external lines are gonna get
hooked on sagebrush. Ben Haas. N801BH.
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| Subject: | tail dragger on floats? |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Martin Nackman" <mnackzzz@hotmail.com>
I am considering the 601 HD kit and plan on building
it as a tail dragger. At some future date I'd like to put
it on amphi- floats.
I have only seen pictures of it on floats in the tricycle (nose wheel) configuration
is this just a coincidence? Is it possible to convert from tail wheel to
amphi floats or is there some weight and balance issue I am overlooking?
Thanks for any info, impressions or links.
Sincerely,
Martin Nackman
601HD in 23 months
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| Subject: | Re: Undercarriage..... |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Phil Maxson" <pmaxpmax@hotmail.com>
>I would have LOVED to have gun drilled brake lines in my gear. Being a
>Bush plane I am betting sooner then later those external lines are gonna
>get
>hooked on sagebrush.
What are "gun drilled" brake lines? What are other people doing for the
brake lines on the spring aluminum gear? I'm working on the main gear now.
Phil Maxson
601XL
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| Subject: | Re: tail dragger on floats? |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Bryan Martin <bryanmmartin@comcast.net>
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Martin Nackman" <mnackzzz@hotmail.com>
>
> I am considering the 601 HD kit and plan on building
> it as a tail dragger. At some future date I'd like to put
> it on amphi- floats.
> I have only seen pictures of it on floats in the tricycle (nose wheel)
> configuration is this just a coincidence? Is it possible to convert from tail
> wheel to amphi floats or is there some weight and balance issue I am
> overlooking?
> Thanks for any info, impressions or links.
>
> Sincerely,
> Martin Nackman
I don't think it's a weight and balance issue, it would seem to be a
structural issue. Where would you attach floats to a tail wheel airplane? It
seems to me you would need a fairly sturdy structure up front to attach to.
A tail wheel isn't designed to carry much weight, a nose wheel is. You would
also want a more level attitude for an airplane on floats since you fly a
floatplane all the way to touchdown without flaring.
I suppose you could build a tail wheel airplane with extra hard points for
later conversion to floats but it's probably easier to convert a nose wheel
airplane to floats simply by removing the land gear and attaching the floats
to the same points.
I'm no expert on floatplanes, I don't even have the rating, so don't take
this as gospel, just my opinion.
--
Bryan Martin
N61BM, CH 601 XL, Stratus Subaru.
Airframe construction complete.
Working on instrument panel, electrical and interior.
do not archive.
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| Subject: | Re: tail dragger on floats? |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Larry C. McFarland" <larrymc@qconline.com>
> I am considering the 601 HD kit and plan on building
> it as a tail dragger. At some future date I'd like to put
> it on amphi- floats.
> I have only seen pictures of it on floats in the tricycle (nose wheel)
configuration is this just a coincidence? Is it possible to convert from
tail wheel to amphi floats or is there some weight and balance issue I am
overlooking?
> Thanks for any info, impressions or links.
>
> Sincerely,
> Martin Nackman
>
> 601HD in 23 months
Martin,
The tri-gear is intended to support both water and land operations and I
doubt the taildragger would be able to structurally support the same
attitudinal requirements. You could make the transition but you'd only have
a float plane after it was a tail dragger.
Larry - 601hds
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| Subject: | CH-640 Assembly CD |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Jeff Paden" <jeffpaden@madbbs.com>
A few of the list members here have contacted me about the CD for the
CH-640.
I am finishing up the fixes to it tonight and will zip it up to send to
Zenith. I have asked them for permission to make the fixed CD available for
download in ZIP format. If they give me permission to do so then I will
post a link to the file in this list. If not then I will post a message so
that you know they have the working version and you can then request that
they send it to you.
Jeff Paden
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| Subject: | tail dragger on floats? |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Darryl West <rdwest@shaw.ca>
Yes, you can do it. I was told that the newer dual-nosewheel floats shown on
these websites were developed specifically for taildraggers. I believe Chip
Irwin is on this list sometimes, and would be the guy to ask at CZAW.
http://www.czaw.cz/
http://czechsportplanes.com/FLOATS.htm
Darryl West
rdwest@shaw.ca
http://members.shaw.ca/rdwest/
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Martin
> Nackman
> Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2003 12:49 PM
> To: zenith-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Zenith-List: tail dragger on floats?
>
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> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Martin Nackman" <mnackzzz@hotmail.com>
>
> I am considering the 601 HD kit and plan on building
> it as a tail dragger. At some future date I'd like to put
> it on amphi- floats.
> I have only seen pictures of it on floats in the tricycle (nose
> wheel) configuration is this just a coincidence? Is it possible
> to convert from tail wheel to amphi floats or is there some
> weight and balance issue I am overlooking?
> Thanks for any info, impressions or links.
>
> Sincerely,
> Martin Nackman
>
> 601HD in 23 months
>
>
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