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1. 03:40 AM - Re: Steering rods doors. (Dr. Perry Morrison)
2. 05:54 AM - Re: Stol 801 dual controls (Carlson, Dale)
3. 06:53 AM - Re: Steering rods doors. (Ed)
4. 07:26 AM - Re: Steering rods doors. (Matthew Mucker)
5. 09:24 AM - Re: Steering rods doors. (Gary Gower)
6. 02:25 PM - Fw: Want to buy 701..... (louis girard)
7. 03:50 PM - jabiru engine XL (barry mayne)
8. 04:40 PM - Re: Steering rods doors. (Ed)
9. 06:07 PM - Re: Steering rods doors. (David Witt)
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| Subject: | Re: Steering rods doors. |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Dr. Perry Morrison" <prm@softhome.net>
Am I missing something here?
I've looked at these photos and wondered if there was sufficient clearance
for the vertical movement of the steering rods. I currently fly with
no covers at all- and after flights of 3 hrs have experienced no effects.
However I have appreciated the depth of travel available on some rough
strips. Indeed, I've often heard the rods "chatter" on takeoff on rough
strips as they vibrate against the cutout edges. I think brushes or
overlapping
rubber is a better solution.
Just my 1/2 cent (with the Oz exchange range)
Perry Morrison
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gary Gower" <ggower_99@yahoo.com>
Subject: Zenith-List: Steering rods doors.
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: Gary Gower <ggower_99@yahoo.com>
>
> Hello Tim (Shankland),
>
>
> Your steering doors design in the photo share are GREAT!
>
> There will be in our 701. We appreciate very much the photos.
>
> Any year (not this one, we will not be able to go) if we ever meet in
> person at S&F or Oskosh, I will invite you a (Corona) beer and
> dinner...
>
> This was something we were going around thinking how to close these
> gaps, easy, light and secure (not jam the steering or shocking
> movement).
>
> It is important for us, here climate is hot in summer so we didnt want
> this "heater blower" in our feet when flying.
>
> Saludos
> Gary Gower
> 701 912S
> Guadalajara, Jalisco, Mexico. (where the Corona Beer factory is)
>
>
> http://taxes.yahoo.com/
>
>
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| Subject: | Stol 801 dual controls |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Carlson, Dale" <DCarlson@mail.dese.state.mo.us>
I believe Chris indicated that he would consider a dual control arrangement similar
to the 640 (control yokes). Adrian Nobel (in Australia) built an 801 with
dual sticks and has had a pictures of it on the Zenith website. Adrian's 801
is green and white if you can remember seeing that aircraft out there. I am
building dual sticks in my 801 using sketches provided by Adrian. It certainly
makes the control installation more complex. Adrian is pretty satisfied with
the dual stick system.
It makes entry and exit of the aircraft a little more difficult and is slightly
heavier than the center stick but certainly makes writing clearances easier for
us right handed folks and seems as though it would be more comfortable on longer
flights.
Dale Carlson
N128DC
-----Original Message-----
From: Dirk Andrepont [mailto:dandrepont@charter.net]
Subject: Zenith-List: Stol 801 dual controls
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Dirk Andrepont" <dandrepont@charter.net>
Hello All,
An article on this website:
http://www.homebuilt-plane.com/stolch801/update.html ( go to the very
end) stated that there Chris would provide plans for those who may
want dual controls in the 801. I thought I once saw a photo of this on
some website (may have been a 701) . Has anyone considered dual controls
(stick) .pros? cons?
Thanks
Dirk Andrepont
Louisiana
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| Subject: | Re: Steering rods doors. |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Ed" <orion@silcom.com>
I can't comment on the doors for the steering rods. But in my first few
flights with a thin rubber covering blocking the holes we experienced CO in
the cockpit after about an hour (indicator went dark) Replaced the thin
rubber with two pieces of 'engine baffle material' (each side) and solved
the CO problem...no sign since...although longest flight to date is only
about 2 hrs.
Also no noise of vibration heard from the rods during takeoff or landing
(which didn't suprise me)
fwiw
Ed (601hds/lyc235)
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| Subject: | Steering rods doors. |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Matthew Mucker" <matthew@mucker.net>
Ed,
I certainly hope you don't consider that action a true solution to your CO
problem.
Please, for your life's sake, find the source of the CO leak from the engine
and repair it there. There are too many other possible routes for the gas
to get into the cockpit and kill you for you to be satisfied with this
workaround.
-Matt
> I can't comment on the doors for the steering rods. But in my first few
> flights with a thin rubber covering blocking the holes we
> experienced CO in
> the cockpit after about an hour (indicator went dark) Replaced the thin
> rubber with two pieces of 'engine baffle material' (each side) and solved
> the CO problem...no sign since...although longest flight to date is only
> about 2 hrs.
> Also no noise of vibration heard from the rods during takeoff or landing
> (which didn't suprise me)
> fwiw
>
> Ed (601hds/lyc235)
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| Subject: | Steering rods doors. |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Gary Gower <ggower_99@yahoo.com>
We are using black window caulk (the one used on cars) to seal
carefully all around the edges of the firewall and the fuselage skin,
there was almost an accident with CO involved with a local Kitfox pilot
just a few months ago, he landed very dizi but safe, he had a head ache
for several days. There was two cracks (dificult to see in "normal"
preflight inspection) in the muffler inside the engine compartment.
Saludos
Gary Gower
--- Matthew Mucker <matthew@mucker.net> wrote:
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Matthew Mucker"
> <matthew@mucker.net>
>
> Ed,
>
> I certainly hope you don't consider that action a true solution to
> your CO
> problem.
>
> Please, for your life's sake, find the source of the CO leak from the
> engine
> and repair it there. There are too many other possible routes for
> the gas
> to get into the cockpit and kill you for you to be satisfied with
> this
> workaround.
>
> -Matt
>
> > I can't comment on the doors for the steering rods. But in my
> first few
> > flights with a thin rubber covering blocking the holes we
> > experienced CO in
> > the cockpit after about an hour (indicator went dark) Replaced the
> thin
> > rubber with two pieces of 'engine baffle material' (each side) and
> solved
> > the CO problem...no sign since...although longest flight to date is
> only
> > about 2 hrs.
> > Also no noise of vibration heard from the rods during takeoff or
> landing
> > (which didn't suprise me)
> > fwiw
> >
> > Ed (601hds/lyc235)
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
http://taxes.yahoo.com/
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| Subject: | Fw: Want to buy 701..... |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "louis girard" <lgirard3@cvtv.net>
----- Original Message -----
From: louis girard
Subject: Want to buy 701.....
I have done my research and have decided..............
Looking to buy FLYING 701. Would like to locate one in the USA only. I prefer Tx.
or surrounding states, but if the price is right I would transport.
If you have one, or know of one forsale...email lgirard3@cvtv.net please include
info and a pic if possible.
Thank's,
Louis G.
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| Subject: | jabiru engine XL |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "barry mayne" <bazmay@bigpond.com>
G'day list,
I had a call last night from a guy down here in Australia. He wants to find anyone
down here who is building or has built an XL Zodiac especially with the Jabiru
3300 engine. I have a HDS with the Jab 3300 and Jabiru refered him to me.
If there is any aussies out there on the list could you please contact me and
I will patch him through to you for a bit of a chat.
Cheers guys
Barry Mayne
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| Subject: | Re: Steering rods doors. |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Ed" <orion@silcom.com>
Hi Matt,
Thanks for your concerns. I did check to find the leakage and there is a
small amount around the exhaust connections in the engine compt. I suspect
this was the source and the heavier rubber around the steering rods did
prevent it from entering the cockpit. Talking with better qualified persons
than myself it appears this design on the 0-235 is prone to a small leakage
and nothing can be done about it. I have redesigned the cooling for the
engine and I think this will also help remove any CO from the engine compt.
As with any 'experimental' these small modifications take time to prove
themselves and I have been very careful to monitor the detector...so far
without any indication of CO in the cockpit since fitting the rubber around
the steering rods.
Ed
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| Subject: | Steering rods doors. |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "David Witt" <david@davidwitt.com>
Hi Folks,
I've been lurking here for a while. I recently recieved the plans for the
640 I plan to build and as I was reviewing them tonight I noticed they
include an optional firewall steering box that has sliding covers over the
steering rod slots. The plans show the contruction of a 4 sided box that is
placed against the inside of the fire wall and is attached the floor. The
box has slots for the steering rods and has covers that have a matching
slot. Between the cover and the box is a steering box slide. The part
numbers for the components are:
640-F-7-3 Firewall Steering Box
640-F-7-5 Steering Box Slide (2 required)
640-F-7-6 Slide Cover (2 required)
I don't know if these could be adapted to the 701 but thought you might be
interested.
Dave Witt
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