---------------------------------------------------------- Zenith-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 02/28/03: 10 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 06:32 AM - Re: Zenith-List Digest: 15 Msgs - 02/27/03 (William Nichelson) 2. 06:32 AM - Re: Zenith-List Digest: 15 Msgs - 02/27/03 (William Nichelson) 3. 07:05 AM - PSS AOA Port Location for 601XL Wing (nhulin) 4. 07:30 AM - Re: EAA homebuilders page (Gary Gower) 5. 07:33 AM - Re: Fuel shut-off valve for CH601 (Mike Fothergill) 6. 07:58 AM - 701 wing strut fairings? (Mileski William J CONT NPRI) 7. 08:11 AM - Re: Fuel shut-off valve for CH601 (Mark A. Wood) 8. 08:17 AM - Re: Zenith-List Digest: 15 Msgs - 02/27/03 (nhulin) 9. 11:29 AM - Re: 701 wing strut fairings? (Winston Ellis) 10. 11:39 AM - Re: Fuel shut-off valve for CH601 (Larry C. McFarland) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 06:32:57 AM PST US From: William Nichelson Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Zenith-List Digest: 15 Msgs - 02/27/03 --> Zenith-List message posted by: William Nichelson George, I used two small universal joints and a piece of 1/4" aluminum rod to connect the shut-off form the bottom of the 8 gallon header tank to the instrument panel right in front of the pilot's seat. It works very well, is right in front of me and is easy to operate. I think I got the universal joints from McMaster Carr and they were about $5 each. I took the handle off the valve and drilled through the shaft and universal joint for a roll pin. I made a small bearing to mount in the panel. Hope this helps. Bill Nichelson Bellefontaine, Ohio USA Zodiac 601HDS S/N 6-3556 - N132BN - "Casual Passion" 3300 Jabiru Engine, Prince Prop At 11:58 PM 2/27/2003 -0800, you wrote: >Time: 08:12:23 PM PST US >From: "George Swinford" >Subject: Zenith-List: Fuel shut-off valve for CH601 >--> Zenith-List message posted by: "George Swinford" > >I need a recommendation for a simple on-off fuel shut-off valve which can >be operated >by a remote handle. This valve will be located on the bottom of my 8 gallon >fuselage tank with the operating handle on a sub-panel below the center of >the instrument panel. The valve will be connected to the handle by a shaft, >probably a length of small diameter steel tubing. > >The valve furnished by Zenith is quite stiff to turn and has a short stub of a >shaft holding a handle made of metal with a 90 degree twist. I'm hoping for a >valve with a longer shaft and less resistance to turning. Your ideas and >suggestions >will be appreciated. > >George Swinford ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:32:57 AM PST US From: William Nichelson Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Zenith-List Digest: 15 Msgs - 02/27/03 --> Zenith-List message posted by: William Nichelson Don, I mounted my ELT behind the passenger seat like others have done. I did not want it up high at the baggage floor level. In case of a crash, I did not want it acting as a projectile aimed at the passenger's back. I put my antenna inside the canopy, out of the slip stream. The base is right beside the hoops at the front of the baggage shelf. I made two clips and formed the antenna to match the shape of the hoop. I was a little concerned if it would pass inspection, but the FAA guy had no problem with the location. The antenna is open to the sky, just under the canopy. I did the same with my GPS antenna. With all the inherent drag on the 601, we need all the help we can get. Bill Nichelson Bellefontaine, Ohio USA Zodiac 601HDS S/N 6-3556 - N132BN - "Casual Passion" 3300 Jabiru Engine, Prince Prop >From: "Larry C. McFarland" >Subject: Re: Zenith-List: ELT - Location & Suggestion > >--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Larry C. McFarland" > > > > I'm getting ready to purchase an ELT for my 601 and was hoping for some > > recommendations on the location for both the antenna and unit itself, > > and which models have worked for others. > > Thanks! > > Don Honabach > > Tempe, AZ - 601HDS ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:05:04 AM PST US From: "nhulin" Subject: Zenith-List: PSS AOA Port Location for 601XL Wing --> Zenith-List message posted by: "nhulin" Listers, I am installing a PSS AOA indicator in my 601XL. The last time AOA was discussed on this list was April 2000 and there were no actual installations flying at that time. The PSS web site and installation manual lists port locations for a number of "common" aircraft but doesn't have any info on the Zodiacs. (They obviously aren't "common" in at least one sense of the word, but we all knew that ;-). ) I'm looking for feedback from any builder who is flying with one of these indicators installed or a builder who has already investigated possible port locations and discounted various locations for whatever reason. I haven't installed my landing/taxi lights yet so I have the option of moving the landing lights to the I/B side of NR8 so that the AOA port hardware can be accessed with the fibreglass tip removed. If I install the landing lights per the diagrams on the O/B side of NR8 I would have to install the AOA port I/B of NR8 to keep the wingtip clearance distance and could probably access the port hardware with the landing light removed, through the lightening hole in NR8. Note that I'm installing landing/taxi lights in both wings so it isn't that I could just put the AOA port in one wing and the lights in the other. Thanks, ...neil 601XL (still working on the wings) Cincinnati, Ohio ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 07:30:27 AM PST US From: Gary Gower Subject: Re: Zenith-List: EAA homebuilders page --> Zenith-List message posted by: Gary Gower --- Gary Liming wrote: > --> Zenith-List message posted by: Gary Liming > > At 04:07 PM 2/27/2003 -0800, you wrote: > >--> Zenith-List message posted by: Gary Gower > > > >Did you noticed that the cabin in the EAA page is a 701? > >Makes us proud... > > > >Saludos > >Gary Gower > >Do not archive > > Actually, its the panel of the demo 801. > > Gary Liming ; > ) > Well, very dificult to notice the diference... :-) Saludos Gary Gower http://taxes.yahoo.com/ ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 07:33:26 AM PST US From: Mike Fothergill Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Fuel shut-off valve for CH601 --> Zenith-List message posted by: Mike Fothergill Hi; I adapted a universal from a 1/4" socket wrench to attach to the valve and extended it up to the sub-panel with 3/8" dia aluminum tube. Mike UHS Spinners CH-601HDS George Swinford wrote: > --> Zenith-List message posted by: "George Swinford" > > I need a recommendation for a simple on-off fuel shut-off valve which can be operated by a remote handle. This valve will be located on the bottom of my 8 gallon fuselage tank with the operating handle on a sub-panel below the center of the instrument panel. The valve will be connected to the handle by a shaft, probably a length of small diameter steel tubing. > > The valve furnished by Zenith is quite stiff to turn and has a short stub of a shaft holding a handle made of metal with a 90 degree twist. I'm hoping for a valve with a longer shaft and less resistance to turning. Your ideas and suggestions will be appreciated. > > George Swinford ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 07:58:59 AM PST US From: Mileski William J CONT NPRI Subject: Zenith-List: 701 wing strut fairings? <1F1D28572ECAD211BC490008C75D71F5034E0112@NPRI54EXC18.NPT.NUWC.NAVY.MIL> --> Zenith-List message posted by: Mileski William J CONT NPRI Does anyone have any opinions on wing strut fairings on the 701.. talking about formed alu sheet ones, intended to be riveted to the steel struts. I'm a little concerned that the steel struts become hard to inspect with these in place, or maybe all the rivet holes provide excessive opportunity for moisture to invade the strut interior. Thoughts? Bill Mileski Middletown, RI 701 75% Bill Mileski Sonalysts, Incorporated 2 Corporate Place Middletown, Rhode Island 02842 mileski@sonalysts.com ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 08:11:19 AM PST US From: "Mark A. Wood" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Fuel shut-off valve for CH601 --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Mark A. Wood" While the ideas expressed so far about universal joints and tubing for an extension are good, I see something in George's statement that I have also questioned. I am using an after market brass valve attached to my 8gal header tank. The force needed to open or close it is normal for this kind of valve, but high enough to cause a flex in the Al around the attachment point to the tank when operating the valve. Anyone have input on this? Mark Wood > > >> The valve furnished by Zenith is quite stiff to turn and has a >>short stub of a shaft holding a handle made of metal with a 90 >>degree twist. I'm hoping for a valve with a longer shaft and less >>resistance to turning. Your ideas and suggestions will be >>appreciated. >> > > George Swinford ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 08:17:44 AM PST US From: "nhulin" Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Zenith-List Digest: 15 Msgs - 02/27/03 --> Zenith-List message posted by: "nhulin" Bill, Good to see that you are continuing to bring your vast experience to ground-bound builders even though your aircraft has been flying for some time. This is of great benefit to all of us, since if all the builders with completed aircraft withdraw for this list, then we loose the lessons and knowledge of those who have gone before. Thank you. Are you and your aircraft likely to be at Sun'n'Fun or Oshkosh this year? Listers, I'd recommend to any Zenith builder to have a close look at Bill's workmanship and original ideas that he has incorporated into his aircraft. A beautiful example to all of us. ...neil Neil Hulin Cincinnati, Ohio 601XL ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 11:29:26 AM PST US From: Winston Ellis Subject: Re: Zenith-List: 701 wing strut fairings? --> Zenith-List message posted by: Winston Ellis I have been thinking about making the struts out of 4130 streamline tubing that AS&S has on page 64 of my catalog. I haven't gotten ZAC's opinion on this mod though. Winston Ellis 701/Suzuki Ketchum, Idaho Mileski William J CONT NPRI wrote: > --> Zenith-List message posted by: Mileski William J CONT NPRI > > Does anyone have any opinions on wing strut fairings on the 701.. talking about formed alu sheet ones, intended to be riveted to the steel struts. I'm a little concerned that the steel struts become hard to inspect with these in place, or maybe all the rivet holes provide excessive opportunity for moisture to invade the strut interior. Thoughts? > > Bill Mileski > Middletown, RI > 701 75% > > Bill Mileski > Sonalysts, Incorporated > 2 Corporate Place > Middletown, Rhode Island 02842 > mileski@sonalysts.com > ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 11:39:23 AM PST US From: "Larry C. McFarland" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Fuel shut-off valve for CH601 --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Larry C. McFarland" Subject: Zenith-List: Fuel shut-off valve for CH601 > --> Zenith-List message posted by: "George Swinford" > > I need a recommendation for a simple on-off fuel shut-off valve which can be operated by a remote handle. This valve will be located on the bottom of my 8 gallon fuselage tank with the operating handle on a sub-panel below the center of the instrument panel. The valve will be connected to the handle by a shaft, probably a length of small diameter steel tubing. > > The valve furnished by Zenith is quite stiff to turn and has a short stub of a shaft holding a handle made of metal with a 90 degree twist. I'm hoping for a valve with a longer shaft and less resistance to turning. Your ideas and suggestions will be appreciated. > > George Swinford George, I used a piece of rod bent at each end and bolted thru the valve handle. The other end is set in a small angle with a grommet for pivot riveted to the console. It's a little stiff, but it works. An image of it is on my site at "controls" page link. Larry C. McFarland @ http://www.macsmachine.com