Today's Message Index:
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1. 12:11 PM - Ordered Plans (Clifton J. Bardwell)
2. 03:16 PM - Re: Ordered Plans (g t)
3. 05:55 PM - Roto-Zip to cut thin AL sheet? (Ihab A Awad (CCGB))
4. 06:30 PM - CH2000 as a transition aircraft (Hodges, Mitch)
5. 06:36 PM - Local Builder? (thomas hobbes)
6. 07:11 PM - Re: Roto-Zip to cut thin AL sheet? (Scott Laughlin)
7. 07:34 PM - CH701 Door Questions (Walt Cannon)
8. 07:34 PM - Re: Roto-Zip to cut thin AL sheet? (Jon Croke)
9. 08:03 PM - Re: Ordered Plans (Matthew Mucker)
10. 08:06 PM - Re: Local Builder? (Matthew Mucker)
11. 08:13 PM - Re: CH2000 as a transition aircraft (Philip Polstra)
12. 08:15 PM - Re: Local Builder? (Philip Polstra)
13. 09:33 PM - Pressure PSI for Pitot Tube... (Don Honabach)
14. 09:39 PM - Re: Roto-Zip to cut thin AL sheet? (Don Honabach)
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Clifton J. Bardwell" <clif@duck.org>
Hi all.
For some reason, I just had to tell someone.
I just put the check in the mail this morning for the CH-640 plans.
Yep, soon* I will be the proud owner/pilot of a Zodiac CH-640!!!
Thanks for listening. :)
Clif
http://homebuilt.duck.org
* Yes, I realize that "soon" is a relative term. Compared with the age
of the universe, I should have this thing done in no time. :)
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| Subject: | Re: Ordered Plans |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: g t <wauwis2002@yahoo.com>
Congratulations,
I just came back from the rudder workshop. I would love to put a check in the
mail (STOL 701), but I have not yet gotten the wife to this stage yet.
Good Luck to you
Tom
"Clifton J. Bardwell" <clif@duck.org> wrote:--> Zenith-List message posted by:
"Clifton J. Bardwell"
Hi all.
For some reason, I just had to tell someone.
I just put the check in the mail this morning for the CH-640 plans.
Yep, soon* I will be the proud owner/pilot of a Zodiac CH-640!!!
Thanks for listening. :)
Clif
http://homebuilt.duck.org
* Yes, I realize that "soon" is a relative term. Compared with the age
of the universe, I should have this thing done in no time. :)
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| Subject: | Roto-Zip to cut thin AL sheet? |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Ihab A Awad (CCGB)" <ihab@mail.ahc.umn.edu>
(by way of Ihab Awad <ihab@ahc.umn.edu>)
Hi folks,
Has anyone tried to use a Roto-Zip saw to cut thin aluminum sheet (.025"
to .050" 2024 or 6061)? Are there any reasons why or why not to use it? In
theory, it should be ideal for cutting irregular shapes to the accuracy
required for aircraft sheetmetal, right...?
Thanks a lot for any and all info. Peace,
Ihab
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| Subject: | CH2000 as a transition aircraft |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Hodges, Mitch" <n601mh@bellsouth.net>
Phil,
You mentioned in another thread you are flying a CH2000 now. In your CFI
opinion, is the CH2000 a good transition aircraft for building time towards
the 601 in the hopefully inevitable event I manage to ever finish mine?
Also, which school in the ATL area is flying it if I was interested in
renting it.
Mitch Hodges
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: thomas hobbes <doublecheckvalve@yahoo.com>
Any builders near Ft. Rucker, Alabama? Ok, well
then, who's the nearEST builder, and I'll just
have to make a weekend of it?
I'm interested in building a Zenith, although I
haven't picked a model or decided on plans vs
kit. I'd really like to hear about people's
experiences with different models in regards to
performance, utility, construction and costs.
Please speak out about things you don't like as
well as the benefits--I need to make an informed
decision, and the best way is to hear other ideas
and experiences (and a flight might not hurt
either!).
Thanks in advance for your help.
Tim
http://taxes.yahoo.com/
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| Subject: | Re: Roto-Zip to cut thin AL sheet? |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Scott Laughlin" <cookwithgas@hotmail.com>
Ihab:
It's a good idea. I have one I used recently on sheetrock. The only
drawback is that you would have to first make a "negative" of what you want
to create whereas with a router, you make a copy of what you want. Thanks
for the idea, I'll try to use it if the chance arises.
Good luck,
Scott Laughlin
Nebraska 601XL
Scratchbuilding Tailfeathers
----Original Message Follows----
From: "Ihab A Awad (CCGB)" <ihab@mail.ahc.umn.edu> (by way of Ihab Awad
<ihab@ahc.umn.edu>)
Subject: Zenith-List: Roto-Zip to cut thin AL sheet?
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Ihab A Awad (CCGB)"
<ihab@mail.ahc.umn.edu> (by way of Ihab Awad <ihab@ahc.umn.edu>)
Hi folks,
Has anyone tried to use a Roto-Zip saw to cut thin aluminum sheet (.025"
to .050" 2024 or 6061)? Are there any reasons why or why not to use it? In
theory, it should be ideal for cutting irregular shapes to the accuracy
required for aircraft sheetmetal, right...?
Thanks a lot for any and all info. Peace,
Ihab
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| Subject: | CH701 Door Questions |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Walt Cannon" <grnlake@earthlink.net>
I am looking for some help and suggestions on the doors for the 701. I have
studied the drawings and the manual and still have a few questions about the
best methods. Please feel free to contact me even if you didn't build your
plane but think how yours was done works well.
1) Did people use gussets on the inside and the outside of the tubes at all
corners and intersections...or did you just use the two gussets at the upper
corners where the lexan window was on the outside? At the other locations
where there was a aluminum skin, did you allow that to be the outer gusset?
2) Is the lower portion of the piano hinge along the top of the door riveted
outside of or underneath the lexan window?
3) Does the door skin and the window overlap the door frame all the way
around, or is there any area where it is trimmed flush with the door
opening?
4) Where the door skin overlaps the opening, did you use and kind of weather
seal?
5) Any other special tricks anybody wants to offer up?
Best Wishes,
Walt Cannon
CH701 / 912S
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| Subject: | Re: Roto-Zip to cut thin AL sheet? |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Jon Croke" <Jon@joncroke.com>
I hab,
It does work, BUT, you must practice on some scrap first! The thing can
bounce and get away from you and make a quick ruin of your work! Also, I
have found that the bit can load up with shavings that will hinder the
cutting (if cutting thicker stock). I always wear eye protection when doing
this, you can imagine if something broke at those high rpms!
Good luck
Jon
www.joncroke.com
701 75% and 75% to go!
> Has anyone tried to use a Roto-Zip saw to cut thin aluminum sheet (.025"
> to .050" 2024 or 6061)? Are there any reasons why or why not to use it? In
> theory, it should be ideal for cutting irregular shapes to the accuracy
> required for aircraft sheetmetal, right...?
>
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Matthew Mucker" <matthew@mucker.net>
Clif, that's you and me both! And there's two or three more of us around.
The log of my "soon" is at www.matthewmucker.com.
Welcome aboard!
-Matt
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Clifton J.
> Bardwell
> Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 2:11 PM
> To: zenith-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Zenith-List: Ordered Plans
>
>
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Clifton J. Bardwell" <clif@duck.org>
>
> Hi all.
>
> For some reason, I just had to tell someone.
>
> I just put the check in the mail this morning for the CH-640 plans.
>
> Yep, soon* I will be the proud owner/pilot of a Zodiac CH-640!!!
>
> Thanks for listening. :)
>
> Clif
> http://homebuilt.duck.org
>
>
> * Yes, I realize that "soon" is a relative term. Compared with the age
> of the universe, I should have this thing done in no time. :)
>
>
>
>
>
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Matthew Mucker" <matthew@mucker.net>
Why, Thomas, that's an EXCELLENT use for my homebuilder's directory!
Everyone head over and sign yourself in, so that when Thomas goes to
http://www.matthewmucker.com/builder_directory.asp
There are currently 113 builders registered. Are YOU one of them? If not, go
sign up RIGHT NOW!
-Matt
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of thomas
> hobbes
> Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 8:35 PM
> To: zenith-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Zenith-List: Local Builder?
>
>
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: thomas hobbes
> <doublecheckvalve@yahoo.com>
>
> Any builders near Ft. Rucker, Alabama? Ok, well
> then, who's the nearEST builder, and I'll just
> have to make a weekend of it?
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| Subject: | CH2000 as a transition aircraft |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Philip Polstra" <ppolstra@mindspring.com>
The CH2000 would be a great transition plane for anyone who doesn't have
access to a Zodiac especially. The planes fly very simularly. I was able
to jump right into the CH2000 with 67 hours of CH601HDS time.
The new CH2000 is available through my flight school, see
http://www.philsflying.com.
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Hodges, Mitch" <n601mh@bellsouth.net>
You mentioned in another thread you are flying a CH2000 now. In your CFI
opinion, is the CH2000 a good transition aircraft for building time towards
the 601 in the hopefully inevitable event I manage to ever finish mine?
Also, which school in the ATL area is flying it if I was interested in
renting it.
---
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Philip Polstra" <ppolstra@mindspring.com>
As Matthew said, good use of the directory. I do know over numerous Zenith
builders in Georgia. In my EAA chapter there is me with a 601HDS and
someone else with a 701. There are at least 5 flying 601's in Georgia that
I know of.
--> Zenith-List message posted by: thomas hobbes
<doublecheckvalve@yahoo.com>
Any builders near Ft. Rucker, Alabama? Ok, well
then, who's the nearEST builder, and I'll just
have to make a weekend of it?
---
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| Subject: | Pressure PSI for Pitot Tube... |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Don Honabach" <don@pcperfect.com>
Hey Everyone,
I'm thinking about using some quick disconnect valves on the outboard
wing section for the Pitot tube, but I'm not sure how well they'll hold
up to the ram air pressure and was going to do a quick pressure test.
Does any one know the typical PSI that the pitot tube is exposed to?
Thanks!
Don Honabach
Tempe, AZ
601HDS
http://zodiac.pcperfect.com
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| Subject: | Roto-Zip to cut thin AL sheet? |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Don Honabach" <don@pcperfect.com>
Ihab-
I've done some parts using a router and had in general good success.
Just be careful of all the pieces that may be thrown at you during the
process (safety goggles are a must). Also, if memory servers me right,
it's important to properly support the AL as the router bit tends to
grab it while being cut.
I also recently ordered a circle jig for my router to help make the
particle board templates for inspection places (hallow inner support
ring and inspection plate circle).
Regards,
Don Honabach
-----Original Message-----
From: Scott Laughlin [mailto:cookwithgas@hotmail.com]
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Roto-Zip to cut thin AL sheet?
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Scott Laughlin"
--> <cookwithgas@hotmail.com>
Ihab:
It's a good idea. I have one I used recently on sheetrock. The only
drawback is that you would have to first make a "negative" of what you
want
to create whereas with a router, you make a copy of what you want.
Thanks
for the idea, I'll try to use it if the chance arises.
Good luck,
Scott Laughlin
Nebraska 601XL
Scratchbuilding Tailfeathers
----Original Message Follows----
From: "Ihab A Awad (CCGB)" <ihab@mail.ahc.umn.edu> (by way of Ihab Awad
<ihab@ahc.umn.edu>)
Subject: Zenith-List: Roto-Zip to cut thin AL sheet?
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Ihab A Awad (CCGB)"
<ihab@mail.ahc.umn.edu> (by way of Ihab Awad <ihab@ahc.umn.edu>)
Hi folks,
Has anyone tried to use a Roto-Zip saw to cut thin aluminum sheet (.025"
to .050" 2024 or 6061)? Are there any reasons why or why not to use it?
In
theory, it should be ideal for cutting irregular shapes to the accuracy
required for aircraft sheetmetal, right...?
Thanks a lot for any and all info. Peace,
Ihab
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