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1. 02:27 AM - Re: Throttle - Subaru - Push Pull (Bryan Martin)
2. 05:18 AM - Re: Throttle - Subaru - Push Pull (Don Honabach)
3. 06:10 AM - Re: Request Info regarding Engine Configs for 601s (Dr. Perry Morrison)
4. 06:41 AM - Re: Pics of the steering boots and 801 Accident (Garrou, Douglas)
5. 11:53 AM - Re: 601 wing walkway/ thank you (nhulin)
6. 12:21 PM - 912UL Exhaust (John Hartlen)
7. 12:45 PM - Re: Re: 601 wing walkway (Fred or Sandy Hulen)
8. 03:43 PM - Brake Line - Bulkhead Question (Don Honabach)
9. 03:53 PM - Re: Throttle - Subaru - Push Pull (Bill Morelli)
10. 04:15 PM - Re: Brake Line - Bulkhead Question (Pinneo, George)
11. 04:32 PM - Seating adjustablity in the 601... (Gene Z. Ragan)
12. 04:35 PM - 601 model clarification (Gene Z. Ragan)
13. 04:38 PM - Cockpit and glare issues... (Gene Z. Ragan)
14. 04:54 PM - Re: Re: 601 wing walkway (prm@softhome.net)
15. 05:06 PM - Re: Seating adjustablity in the 601... (Philip Polstra)
16. 05:09 PM - Re: Request Info regarding Engine Configs for 601s (Oswaldo P Silva Filho)
17. 05:33 PM - Re: Seating adjustablity in the 601... (Mike Fothergill)
18. 08:32 PM - Re: Cockpit and glare issues... (Cleone Markwell)
19. 09:41 PM - Rotax 912S cooling problem. "Boiling over"; looking for suggestions? (royt.or)
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| Subject: | Re: Throttle - Subaru - Push Pull |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Bryan Martin <bryanmmartin@comcast.net>
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Don Honabach" <don@pcperfect.com>
>
> Hey Guys,
>
> I have one of the newer Stratus converted Subaru EA-81s (longer starter
> and reverse throttle springs - pulls to idle instead of pulling to full
> throttle).
>
> The way that ZAC does the throttle linkage will mean that I will end up
> pulling back to increase the RPM and pushing forward to decrease the
> RPM. I'd like it to work in the standard way (push forward for RPM
> increase), but haven't been able to figure out any easy way. Has anyone
> run into this already and found any good solutions?
>
> Thanks!
> Don Honabach
> Tempe, AZ
> 601HDS
>
On my Stratus I thought I had the same condition until I looked carefully
and realized that the springs on the carbs actually pull the throttles to
wide open so you have to pull against the spring tension to close the
throttles. With the Bing carburetors it's hard to see the throttle plate.
--
Bryan Martin
N61BM, CH 601 XL, Stratus Subaru.
Airframe construction complete.
Working on instrument panel, electrical and interior.
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| Subject: | Throttle - Subaru - Push Pull |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Don Honabach" <don@pcperfect.com>
Bryan,
>> On my Stratus I thought I had the same condition until I looked
carefully and realized that the springs on the carbs actually pull the
throttles to wide open so you have to pull against the spring tension to
close the throttles. With the Bing carburetors it's hard to see the
throttle plate.
I thought I was going insane at first because another builder said that
he didn't understand what the heck I was talking about, but I finally
figured out that his bing carbs had the carb throttle linkage closer to
the front of the plane where mine is closer to the firewall on the
plane. From what I've been told, Stratus had to move the throttle
linkage because they could no longer get the smaller starters and the
new ones interfered with the throttle linkage.
I've also test fired the engine without any throttle cables and it sits
at idle. Another local builder that has his plane setup with the smaller
starter and forward throttle linkages goes to full throttle unless you
pull back against the throttle linkage spring.
Thanks!
Don
-----Original Message-----
From: Bryan Martin [mailto:bryanmmartin@comcast.net]
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Throttle - Subaru - Push Pull
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Bryan Martin
--> <bryanmmartin@comcast.net>
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Don Honabach" <don@pcperfect.com>
>
> Hey Guys,
>
> I have one of the newer Stratus converted Subaru EA-81s (longer
> starter and reverse throttle springs - pulls to idle instead of
> pulling to full throttle).
>
> The way that ZAC does the throttle linkage will mean that I will end
> up pulling back to increase the RPM and pushing forward to decrease
> the RPM. I'd like it to work in the standard way (push forward for RPM
> increase), but haven't been able to figure out any easy way. Has
> anyone run into this already and found any good solutions?
>
> Thanks!
> Don Honabach
> Tempe, AZ
> 601HDS
>
On my Stratus I thought I had the same condition until I looked
carefully and realized that the springs on the carbs actually pull the
throttles to wide open so you have to pull against the spring tension to
close the throttles. With the Bing carburetors it's hard to see the
throttle plate.
--
Bryan Martin
N61BM, CH 601 XL, Stratus Subaru.
Airframe construction complete.
Working on instrument panel, electrical and interior.
direct advertising on the Matronics Forums.
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| Subject: | Re: Request Info regarding Engine Configs for 601s |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Dr. Perry Morrison" <prm@softhome.net>
Terry,
My experience is limited to a sample of 1- my own 912 engine. Without
diminishing the merits of other engines, in the end I was impressed by the
ability of the 912 to complete a number of recording breaking flights
including around the world (by trike) and 2 trikes from Sth America to
Sth Africa. Colin Boddill (sp?) also flew a 912 powered trike from the UK
to Sydney. The engines performed magically on varying quality fuel and in
extreme conditions.
Many other engines are fine for our needs, but when an engine has this
kind of record, I think it excels.
I've also seen some convincing evidence showing that despite the cost
of 912 parts, the 1200-1500 hr TBO, reliability and fuel burn make
it a cost effective option in the long run.
However, having said that, the upfront price is hard to swallow.
Perry Morrison
----- Original Message -----
From: "Terry Ladouceur" <tladouce@canthaisoftware.com>
Subject: Zenith-List: Request Info regarding Engine Configs for 601s
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Terry Ladouceur"
<tladouce@canthaisoftware.com>
>
> Hi my name is Terry Ladouceur, I have been lurking on this mailing list
for
> about 10 months now and I must say that the assistance I have seen between
> builders and flyers is absolutely fantastic.
>
> For myself I have always known that I could not/did not want to build an
> aircraft as I do not have the skill nor the patience for such work, so I
> applaud those of you that are taking up the challenge and those that have
> already completed your project.
>
> So now after the intro to the point of my message. I have always wanted to
> own and fly a Zodiac 601. When they first came out in the early 80's I was
> totally inspired by them, but of course in the 80's I could not afford
such
> a luxury. but now a little later in life and I have just received my
Private
> Pilot Ultralight and want to make my dream complete by getting a Zodiac
601.
>
> I just sold my Pelican Club, which I purchased to learn how to fly and it
is
> a great plane, but not really a good plane for my personal mission of
cross
> country flying as mine was powered with a Rotax 582.
>
> So my question is, can you provide some data regarding the different types
> of engines that are available/installed currently on Zodiac 601's? As I am
> looking to possibly purchase a partially completed kit, I will need to
make
> a decision on what to use as a power plant. I am looking for total
installed
> weight, horsepower and for those who may have actual flying experience
with
> the different types of engine, performance data on max speed and cruise.
If
> you could provide any insight on the following engines that would greatly
> appreciated, as I am looking for a good cruise speed without having to
break
> the bank to install the engine:
>
> Rotax 912
> Rotax 912S
> Rotax 914
> Jabiru 2200
> Jabiru 3300
> Subaru EA-81
> Corvair
>
> Or any other engines that may be in use. Also if you could point me in the
> direction of where I might be able to get a decent deal on purchasing one
of
> these engines (either new or rebuild or low hours is fine), that would be
> greatly appreciated as well.
>
> Thanks in advance for your assistance.
> Terry Ladouceur, MCT, MCSE, MCSD, MCDBA, CNA, A+
> Can-Thai Software Solutions Incorporated
> 605 Manly Street
> Midland, Ontario
> Canada L4R 3G4
> 1-705-527-1717
> www.canthaisoftware.com
>
>
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| Subject: | RE: Pics of the steering boots and 801 Accident |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Garrou, Douglas" <dgarrou@hunton.com>
Rank speculation alert: I'm not an engineer or NTSB investigator, and I
don't play one on TV. So the following obviously isn't worth much. But,
having looked at the video of the crashed 801, I cannot help but believe
that this airplane exceeded VNE and/or structural load limits. The impact
forces on the fuselage appear to have been EXTREME, far worse than I would
guesstimate for a fuselage falling to the ground after some kid of
structural failure at cruise speed.
My further wild guesstimate is that we are looking at a misjudged recovery
from a dive, with parts lost trying to pull out before impact. Langewiesche
describes precisely this kind of accident in "Stick and Rudder," and
mentions the likelihood that the aircraft will experience structural failure
prior to the impact itself.
An awful thing. The human tragedy is enormous, and obviously the technical
issues are a matter of great concern to the 801 building community as well.
I'm confident that ZAC feels the same way and that we will see responsible
action and assistance on their part.
Doug Garrou
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Time: 10:15:40 AM PST US
From: Benford2@aol.com
Subject: Zenith-List: Pics of the steering boots and 801 Accident
[snip] He told me the Wings, Rudder, Horizontal
Stabilizer and Elevator were 1/2 to 5/8 of a mile away from the wreckage of
the fuselage. Guys, this is disturbing to say the least.
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| Subject: | Re: 601 wing walkway/ thank you |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "nhulin" <nhulin@hotmail.com>
Fred,
Since you're still assembling the wing, why not put the .040 under the skin?
I've been thinking about this since your post and don't see why it wouldn't
work. It would look a lot neater. I plan to have a close look before I
complete the upper skin and will likely follow your example.
...neil
Zodiac 601XL
Cincinnati Ohio
Wings and stuff
>
> Time: 06:38:30 PM PST US
> From: Fred Poor <fredspoor2002@yahoo.com>
> Subject: Zenith-List: 601 wing walkway/ thank you
>
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: Fred Poor <fredspoor2002@yahoo.com>
>
> Awhile back there was a post concerning the 601 wing
> walkway, it didn't seem to get much attention, but
> stuck out " like a sore thumb" to me.--- it said the
> walkway should be beefed up, as the .025 didn't seem
> to be holding up on the factory airplane------- I
> heeded this important note and am now at that phase of
> construction, so I added an additional piece ( on my
> 601 XL ) of .040 on top of the .025 and what a
> difference it makes in strength. It is now .065 vs.
> the .025 the plans call for......
> My point---- I want to take the time to thank the
> person wthat made that IMPORTANT post----
> MANY THANKS !!!!!!!! " fred " ( I hope they
> are reading this------ do not archive
>
> http://taxes.yahoo.com/
>
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: John Hartlen <john.hartlen@sw.edu>
Hi list...I'm looking for a 912UL exhaust system for a 601HD. Does anyone
have one to sell? Thanks
John
Do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: 601 wing walkway |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Fred or Sandy Hulen" <hulens61@birch.net>
Regarding reinforcement of walk-up area
It was me that posted a message a while back about my conversation with
Zenith at Oshkosh. They agreed that the "no step" area on HD and HDS models,
(don't know the thickness on the new XL) was sort of borderline, and that
they had increased the thickness on the demo planes due to the large amount
of people boarding and un-boarding. Please don't confuse this with the
entire walk-up area which to my knowledge has not been a problem. Bill
Morelli has pictures and text about beefing up this trailing edge "no step
area" on his web site.
Fred Hulen
do not archive
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| Subject: | Brake Line - Bulkhead Question |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Don Honabach" <don@pcperfect.com>
Hey Guys,
I'm looking at the semi-rigid Nylon type brake line that ZAC includeds
with the kit and the associated fittings. I'd like to install a fitting
on the bottom wing so that a heavy duty hose (or maybe even the plastic
tubing) can be used to connect to the wheels. That way, if the outside
portion gets damaged I don't have to worry about accessing the internal
wing plumbing.
I'm assuming I need some sort of bulkhead type fitting but I'm at loss
for which one and how it would install. This seems like it should be
easy, but I just don't see how to do it with the existing fittings and
none of the ones I see in the catalogs seem to make sense either.
Thanks in advance....
Confused in Brake Land,
Don Honabach
Tempe, AZ - 601HDS
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| Subject: | Throttle - Subaru - Push Pull |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Bill Morelli <billvt@together.net>
I have the so called old Stratus throttle setup where the throttle springs
pull the throttle full open (push for on, pull for off).
In my opinion, that is the only way to go. If you have a throttle linkage
break, best to have the throttles go full open. You can always then cut the
ignition when you see that a suitable landing site is in reach.
Regards,
Bill (N812BM - HDS - Tri - Stratus - Vermont - 195.7 flight hrs. - 305
landings, 1 ON ICE!!)
web site -> http://homepages.together.net/~billvt/
> >> On my Stratus I thought I had the same condition until I looked
>carefully and realized that the springs on the carbs actually pull the
>throttles to wide open so you have to pull against the spring tension to
>close the throttles. With the Bing carburetors it's hard to see the
>throttle plate.
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| Subject: | Brake Line - Bulkhead Question |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Pinneo, George" <George.Pinneo@trw.com>
You might want to find a local supplier of Swagelok fittings. They make a good
selection of fittings, in aluminum, and they make bulkhead unions that allow
you to have rigid aluminum tubing inside the airplane and flexible thick-wall
Nylon outside the wing.
GGP
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| Subject: | Seating adjustablity in the 601... |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Gene Z. Ragan" <diskzero@mac.com>
Hi all,
I am looking into a variety of kits and for obvious reason the Zodiac is
very interesting. One question
I have is concerning the adjustability of seating in the 601. My wife and I
have no problem in the 152
moving the seat back and forth to accomodate our difference in height, which
is a full 12 inches. How
would this be achieved in the 601? It appears that the seat is fixed in
position as it is structural to the
fuselage.
Thanks for your help!
Gene Z. Ragan
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| Subject: | 601 model clarification |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Gene Z. Ragan" <diskzero@mac.com>
Hi all,
Here is another prospective buyers question: Which one of the 601 models
will offer the best performance
for cross country cruise speed? I am confused as to if the newer XL model
and its wing will perform better
than the older HDS model. Let's just assume both planes are powered using
the Rotax 912.
Thanks!
Gene
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| Subject: | Cockpit and glare issues... |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Gene Z. Ragan" <diskzero@mac.com>
Hi,
Here is yet another in my parade of questions: How do current fliers of the
601 deal with glare and sun issues?
I am sure owners of the Zodiac, RV and all other bubble style cockpits have
addressed this issue. I have always
flown planes with a covered roof and the ability to lower a sun visor when
the sunset or sunrise glare is right in my eyes.
Thanks!
Gene
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| Subject: | Re: 601 wing walkway |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: prm@softhome.net
To anyone who has beefed up the walkway and
REMOVED the boarding steps- what change in cruise
speed resulted?
Best
Perry Morrison
Fred or Sandy Hulen writes:
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Fred or Sandy Hulen" <hulens61@birch.net>
>
> Regarding reinforcement of walk-up area
>
> It was me that posted a message a while back about my conversation with
> Zenith at Oshkosh. They agreed that the "no step" area on HD and HDS models,
> (don't know the thickness on the new XL) was sort of borderline, and that
> they had increased the thickness on the demo planes due to the large amount
> of people boarding and un-boarding. Please don't confuse this with the
> entire walk-up area which to my knowledge has not been a problem. Bill
> Morelli has pictures and text about beefing up this trailing edge "no step
> area" on his web site.
>
> Fred Hulen
>
> do not archive
>
>
>
>
>
>
______________________________
Dr. Perry Morrison
Morrison Associates Pty Ltd
(08) 89 88 4617
prm@softhome.net
PO Box 1483 Humpty Doo, NT 0836
______________________________
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| Subject: | Seating adjustablity in the 601... |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Philip Polstra" <ppolstra@mindspring.com>
The only real way to adjust the seats is by using padding. You can also
adjust the depth of the seat bottom during construction. I saw a shorter
builder that made his seat deep, and then put styrofoam in the bottom,
because he wanted to be able to accomodate taller passengers and pilots.
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Gene Z. Ragan" <diskzero@mac.com>
I am looking into a variety of kits and for obvious reason the Zodiac is
very interesting. One question
I have is concerning the adjustability of seating in the 601. My wife and I
have no problem in the 152
moving the seat back and forth to accomodate our difference in height, which
is a full 12 inches. How
would this be achieved in the 601? It appears that the seat is fixed in
position as it is structural to the
fuselage.
---
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| Subject: | Re: Request Info regarding Engine Configs for 601s |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Oswaldo P Silva Filho" <oswaldo10@globo.com>
Folks
There is also the brazilian motor-glider (AMT-200S "Super Ximango") equipped
with a Rotax 912S, conducted by Gerard Moss for an earthround trip.
You can check the impressive adventure at :
http://www.zone.com.br/parceiros/asasdovento/ingles/
Oswaldo
Rio de Janeiro
Brazil
----- Original Message -----
From: Dr. Perry Morrison <prm@softhome.net>
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Request Info regarding Engine Configs for 601s
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Dr. Perry Morrison" <prm@softhome.net>
>
> Terry,
>
> My experience is limited to a sample of 1- my own 912 engine. Without
> diminishing the merits of other engines, in the end I was impressed by the
> ability of the 912 to complete a number of recording breaking flights
> including around the world (by trike) and 2 trikes from Sth America to
> Sth Africa. Colin Boddill (sp?) also flew a 912 powered trike from the UK
> to Sydney. The engines performed magically on varying quality fuel and in
> extreme conditions.
>
> Many other engines are fine for our needs, but when an engine has this
> kind of record, I think it excels.
>
> I've also seen some convincing evidence showing that despite the cost
> of 912 parts, the 1200-1500 hr TBO, reliability and fuel burn make
> it a cost effective option in the long run.
>
> However, having said that, the upfront price is hard to swallow.
>
> Perry Morrison
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Terry Ladouceur" <tladouce@canthaisoftware.com>
> To: <zenith-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Zenith-List: Request Info regarding Engine Configs for 601s
>
>
> > --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Terry Ladouceur"
> <tladouce@canthaisoftware.com>
> >
> > Hi my name is Terry Ladouceur, I have been lurking on this mailing list
> for
> > about 10 months now and I must say that the assistance I have seen
between
> > builders and flyers is absolutely fantastic.
> >
> > For myself I have always known that I could not/did not want to build an
> > aircraft as I do not have the skill nor the patience for such work, so I
> > applaud those of you that are taking up the challenge and those that
have
> > already completed your project.
> >
> > So now after the intro to the point of my message. I have always wanted
to
> > own and fly a Zodiac 601. When they first came out in the early 80's I
was
> > totally inspired by them, but of course in the 80's I could not afford
> such
> > a luxury. but now a little later in life and I have just received my
> Private
> > Pilot Ultralight and want to make my dream complete by getting a Zodiac
> 601.
> >
> > I just sold my Pelican Club, which I purchased to learn how to fly and
it
> is
> > a great plane, but not really a good plane for my personal mission of
> cross
> > country flying as mine was powered with a Rotax 582.
> >
> > So my question is, can you provide some data regarding the different
types
> > of engines that are available/installed currently on Zodiac 601's? As I
am
> > looking to possibly purchase a partially completed kit, I will need to
> make
> > a decision on what to use as a power plant. I am looking for total
> installed
> > weight, horsepower and for those who may have actual flying experience
> with
> > the different types of engine, performance data on max speed and cruise.
> If
> > you could provide any insight on the following engines that would
greatly
> > appreciated, as I am looking for a good cruise speed without having to
> break
> > the bank to install the engine:
> >
> > Rotax 912
> > Rotax 912S
> > Rotax 914
> > Jabiru 2200
> > Jabiru 3300
> > Subaru EA-81
> > Corvair
> >
> > Or any other engines that may be in use. Also if you could point me in
the
> > direction of where I might be able to get a decent deal on purchasing
one
> of
> > these engines (either new or rebuild or low hours is fine), that would
be
> > greatly appreciated as well.
> >
> > Thanks in advance for your assistance.
> > Terry Ladouceur, MCT, MCSE, MCSD, MCDBA, CNA, A+
> > Can-Thai Software Solutions Incorporated
> > 605 Manly Street
> > Midland, Ontario
> > Canada L4R 3G4
> > 1-705-527-1717
> > www.canthaisoftware.com
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Seating adjustablity in the 601... |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Mike Fothergill <mfothergill@sympatico.ca>
Hi;
We have that problem. I built the airplane tall to suit me. Extra booster seat
/back cushions adjust the seat for my shorter partner.
Mike
C-FRND
UHS Spinners
"Gene Z. Ragan" wrote:
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Gene Z. Ragan" <diskzero@mac.com>
>
> Hi all,
>
> I am looking into a variety of kits and for obvious reason the Zodiac is
> very interesting. One question
> I have is concerning the adjustability of seating in the 601. My wife and I
> have no problem in the 152
> moving the seat back and forth to accomodate our difference in height, which
> is a full 12 inches. How
> would this be achieved in the 601? It appears that the seat is fixed in
> position as it is structural to the
> fuselage.
>
> Thanks for your help!
>
> Gene Z. Ragan
>
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| Subject: | Re: Cockpit and glare issues... |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Cleone Markwell <cleone@rr1.net>
You can design any kind of roof you like in paint. I did. You will
probably do a better job than I did. You should stick up a masking tape
outline and sit in the plane and see how it is. I didn't.
At 04:46 PM 3/10/03 -0800, you wrote:
>--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Gene Z. Ragan" <diskzero@mac.com>
>
>Hi,
>
>Here is yet another in my parade of questions: How do current fliers of the
>601 deal with glare and sun issues?
>I am sure owners of the Zodiac, RV and all other bubble style cockpits have
>addressed this issue. I have always
>flown planes with a covered roof and the ability to lower a sun visor when
>the sunset or sunrise glare is right in my eyes.
>
>Thanks!
>
>Gene
>
>
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| Subject: | Rotax 912S cooling problem. "Boiling over"; looking for suggestions? |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "royt.or" <royt.or@netzero.net>
Hi,
I've started testing my Rotax 912S and run into a problem. I've mounted the slightly
larger 912S Rotax oil cooler in the original Zenith position, below the
PRSU. I've mounted a rotax radiator in the cowl on the right side of the engine.
I built a plenum (? box) which directs air from a 3.5 inch SCAT hose through
the radiator. The 3.5 inch SCAT hose has a funnel shaped intake at the front
of the cowling. The top of the radiator is below the expansion tank on top of
the 912S.
I have a 3 (tapered) blade Warp propeller, set to 15 degrees I think. Max RPM with
plane secured is 5000. EIS for engine instruments.
When I run the engine at 3500RPM or more, as it heats up, the radiator cap on the
expansion tank opens, over filling the coolant bottle and making LOTS of steam.
I've adapted a hose on my vent which I run to the left wing, allowing earlier
detection and reducing the mess as well as reducing the dramadramatic. The
radiator cap opens as the CHT readings reach 80C. I've installed a coolant temperature
sensor at the outlet of the radiator and it indicates 50-55C when this
happens. When the engine cools, it pulls a pint or more of coolant back into
the circuit from the coolant recovery bottle. This happened initially with
the cowl on. Most of my test since then have been with the cowl off. I believe
I've purged the system of air. I'm near Portland, Oregon where the temp's have
been around 40F.
I plan to try a new radiator cap. Any other suggestions/ideas?
Regards,
Roy Thoma
prefered email roy.thoma@intel.com
N601RT - CH601HDS, 99.44% ready to fly. Rotax 912S, external alternator, nose gear,
all electric IFR.
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