---------------------------------------------------------- Zenith-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sun 03/23/03: 4 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 03:04 AM - Re: What's with the part #'s? (Phil Maxson) 2. 01:57 PM - [ Bryan Martin ] : New Email List Photo Share Available! (Email List Photo Shares) 3. 07:35 PM - Re: Rudder Nose Skin- 601XL (Scott Laughlin) 4. 10:15 PM - Re: Rudder Nose Skin- 601XL (JERICKSON03E@aol.com) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 03:04:37 AM PST US From: "Phil Maxson" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: What's with the part #'s? --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Phil Maxson" >--> Zenith-List message posted by: CLOJAN@aol.com > >Ok, I will admit that I am easy to confuse but what is with the part #'s on >the fuselage. The instructions calls for something like a 6b4-3 and the >sticker on the part is a 6f1-7. Not even close. The F makes more sense for >"fuselage" but it is not in the manual this way. I find something that >looks >like it could be the part then I measure all the dimensions to make sure it >is the right part. I believe the reason for this is when Zenith drew the plans for a new model (such as the XL) they re-used a significant number of parts from previous models. The previous model drawing numbers on the labels. The parts-list that was shipped with the kit should have a cross reference (new drawing numbers to label numbers) and you can write the new numbers on when doing an inventory. Phil Maxson 601XL ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 01:57:09 PM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: [ Bryan Martin ] : New Email List Photo Share Available! From: Email List Photo Shares --> Zenith-List message posted by: Email List Photo Shares A new Email List Photo Share is available: Poster: Bryan Martin Subject: CH 601XL fiberglass wing tip installation http://www.matronics.com/photoshare/bryanmmartin@comcast.net.03.23.2003/index.html o Main Photo Share Index http://www.matronics.com/photoshare o Submitting a Photo Share If you wish to submit a Photo Share of your own, please include the following information along with your email message and files: 1) Email List or Lists that they are related to: 2) Your Full Name: 3) Your Email Address: 4) One line Subject description: 5) Multi-line, multi-paragraph description of topic: 6) One-line Description of each photo or file: Email the information above and your files and photos to: pictures@matronics.com ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:35:44 PM PST US From: "Scott Laughlin" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Rudder Nose Skin- 601XL --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Scott Laughlin" Sorry for the wrong post below. It was a long day of installing, removing, and re-installing clecos. Larry, I posted the exact opposite of what you should have done for the rudder nose skin. It has been a few months since I did my rudder and I was kind of tired when I typed the email! Good luck with your fix. I am going slow on the elevator right now so I don't ruin any parts I've made - especially the skin. One tip I discovered - Zenith has updated the Photo manuals for the 601XL on the web. They were much better than what Zenith mailed to me a few months ago with my plans. Take care, Scott Laughlin www.cooknwithgas.com Omaha, NE ----Original Message Follows---- From: "Scott Laughlin" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Rudder Nose Skin- 601XL --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Scott Laughlin" Larry: I'm going to take a wild guess as to what happened. Did you drill and cleco the nose skin under the rudderskin first? You are supposed to drill and cleco it on the outside of the rudder skin, then remove it, trim it, then tuck it under for the final installation. Let me know if this helps. Scott Laughlin www.cooknwithgas.com Omaha, NE ----Original Message Follows---- From: Subject: Zenith-List: Rudder Nose Skin- 601XL --> Zenith-List message posted by: Well, Ive just screwed up my rudder nose skin. I mounted it and drilled it yesterday and when I removed it, much to my horror discovered that the edge distance for the holes varied between 3mm at the top and 5mm at the bottom. Not going to work. Im trying to analyze what happened. It fits tight to the ribs. At first I thought that sliding the skin toward the top of the rudder would help, but I only gain about 2mm by doing that for a uniform 6mm edge distance with careful placement. Perplexed at this point. The part is clearly junk, but I need to figure out what happened before I go after a second attempt. Ill call Zenith on Monday. Maybe the skin is too small? Has anyone else run into this? Does anyone know the max distance along the front face of the spar from the bottom of the spar to the bottom edge of the nose skin. Larry Portouw Ft. Huachuca, AZ (FHU) ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 10:15:37 PM PST US From: JERICKSON03E@aol.com Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Rudder Nose Skin- 601XL --> Zenith-List message posted by: JERICKSON03E@aol.com Larry, Scott, I'm doing a 701, and the problem is the same, mostly. That is, how to locate reference points that are covered by skin. A useful method used by A&Ps in some cases, is to tape a piece of velum to the structure, measure, and mark it in pencil to lay out the location of future holes, edges, corners, whatever,, then fold the velum back at the tape edge, fit the skin in place,, and fold the velum back over the skin. You can see through the velum, and it helps you to transfer the needed reference points to the skin. It was a great help as the horizontal stab and elevator went together here. Velum is a stiff, strong, see through paper, used in drafting. Carried by some office supply and copy stores. Not to expensive, and a sheet or two goes a long way. Roll it up for transport. And it comes in LARGE sizes, good for our projects. Hope this will assist. Jerry Erickson, 701SP