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1. 05:59 AM - Got a good source of 4130N? (David Barth)
2. 12:34 PM - XL Top side of skin for rear stabilizer... (Gig)
3. 01:51 PM - Angle of Attack indicators (Wayne Glasser)
4. 02:57 PM - Re: Angle of Attack indicators (HINDE,FRANK (HP-Corvallis,ex1))
5. 03:57 PM - Re: Angle of Attack indicators (Bill Morelli)
6. 04:22 PM - Re: Angle of Attack indicators (Wayne Glasser)
7. 05:38 PM - Woe and Intrigue (angle of attack indicator) (Stephen Johnston)
8. 05:58 PM - Re: Woe and Intrigue (angle of attack indicator) (Wayne Glasser)
9. 05:59 PM - 640 (thomas hobbes)
10. 06:52 PM - Re: 640 (Clifton J. Bardwell)
11. 06:54 PM - Bending Brake vs. Press Brake (Clifton J. Bardwell)
12. 07:56 PM - Re: XL Top side of skin for rear stabilizer... (CLOJAN@aol.com)
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| Subject: | Got a good source of 4130N? |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: David Barth <davids601xl@yahoo.com>
Hi List. If any of you scratch builders out there
have found a good source of 4130N (preferably in
Canada since shipping over the border is expensive) I
would love to hear about it. I am looking to buy
enough for 3 - 601 XLs for the small builders group I
am a part of. Thanks for any information you can send
my way. Have a great day!
David
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David Barth
601 XL Plansbuilder
Currently making parts.
Stab and Rudder waiting for skins
http://tax.yahoo.com
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| Subject: | XL Top side of skin for rear stabilizer... |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Gig <wr.giacona@cox-internet.com>
OK.. I'm a little confused. So I don't get more confused I'm quoting the
assembly manual page T-47. Before I do though here is my question.
If in 25 you put the boards in to strap down the skin how do you then
mark the rivet lines as directed in 26.
25. Use straps to hold the Top side of the Skin on the Skeleton.
HANDLING: To push the Skin down on the skeleton, take hold of an 8 foot
2x4
along the sides, hold it up against the Skin and gently lower the Skin
down. Partially
tighten the straps. Add another 1x2 just in front of the Front Spar for
added support. 6
straps is more than adequate!
LEVEL: Block the front of the End Ribs to eliminate twist. Use a level
to check both
ends.
26. Mark the rivet lines for the front and rear Spar. Use the rib
positioning Template to layout
the position of the Ribs.
RIVETS +PITCH:
a) A4 pitch 40 through the Front Spar.
b) A4 pitch 60 through the Ribs.
c) Drill #40 Pilot holes.
27. Clamp the 6 ft (1830mm) Piano Hinge between the Skin and the Rear
Spar, centered on
aircraft center line.
RIVETS + PITCH: A4 through the Rear Spar and Piano Hinge. (Locate the
end holes at
10mm from the end of the Hinge).
DRILL: #30
RIVET: A4
END QUOTE
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| Subject: | Angle of Attack indicators |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Wayne Glasser" <ku-tec@bigpond.net.au>
Does anyone in the group have experience with Angle of Attack indicators
they can share.
Regards
Wayne Glasser
Sydney - Australia
601XL 5075
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| Subject: | Angle of Attack indicators |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "HINDE,FRANK (HP-Corvallis,ex1)" <frank.hinde@hp.com>
Lots of debate in the achives I seem to remember.
Frank
Do not archive
-----Original Message-----
From: Wayne Glasser [mailto:ku-tec@bigpond.net.au]
Subject: Zenith-List: Angle of Attack indicators
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Wayne Glasser"
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Does anyone in the group have experience with Angle of Attack indicators
they can share.
Regards
Wayne Glasser
Sydney - Australia
601XL 5075
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| Subject: | Re: Angle of Attack indicators |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Bill Morelli <billvt@together.net>
Wayne,
I have one on my HDS that works perfectly. I'll contact you directly and
give you the details.
Regards,
Bill
>Does anyone in the group have experience with Angle of Attack indicators
>they can share.
>
>Regards
>
>Wayne Glasser
>Sydney - Australia
>601XL 5075
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| Subject: | Re: Angle of Attack indicators |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Wayne Glasser" <ku-tec@bigpond.net.au>
Bill
Much appreciated.
Wayne
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill Morelli" <billvt@together.net>
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Angle of Attack indicators
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: Bill Morelli <billvt@together.net>
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> Wayne,
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> I have one on my HDS that works perfectly. I'll contact you directly and
> give you the details.
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> Regards,
> Bill
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> >Does anyone in the group have experience with Angle of Attack indicators
> >they can share.
> >
> >Regards
> >
> >Wayne Glasser
> >Sydney - Australia
> >601XL 5075
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| Subject: | Woe and Intrigue (angle of attack indicator) |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Stephen Johnston" <johnston@rrt.net>
Interested in angle of attack indicator? Check out this link.
Steve Johnston
http://www.supercub.org/woe/woe0402.php
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| Subject: | Re: Woe and Intrigue (angle of attack indicator) |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Wayne Glasser" <ku-tec@bigpond.net.au>
Steven
I had come across this site before.
Many thanks
Wayne
----- Original Message -----
From: "Stephen Johnston" <johnston@rrt.net>
Subject: Zenith-List: Woe and Intrigue (angle of attack indicator)
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Stephen Johnston" <johnston@rrt.net>
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> Interested in angle of attack indicator? Check out this link.
>
> Steve Johnston
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> http://www.supercub.org/woe/woe0402.php
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: thomas hobbes <doublecheckvalve@yahoo.com>
anyone in the southeast building a 640?
what thoughts would people have comparing a 640
to an 801?
first time builder...
Tim
http://tax.yahoo.com
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Clifton J. Bardwell" <clif@duck.org>
Building is such a subjective word. :)
I bought the plans and have been reviewing them. I'm still in the
process of making a shopping list for the rudder. I will probably be
making some rib jigs this weekend.
BTW, I live in North Carolina.
Clif
640-0039
http://homebuilt.duck.org
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of thomas
hobbes
Subject: Zenith-List: 640
--> Zenith-List message posted by: thomas hobbes
--> <doublecheckvalve@yahoo.com>
anyone in the southeast building a 640?
what thoughts would people have comparing a 640
to an 801?
first time builder...
Tim
http://tax.yahoo.com
direct advertising on the Matronics Forums.
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| Subject: | Bending Brake vs. Press Brake |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Clifton J. Bardwell" <clif@duck.org>
Just wondering...
Is one better to use over the other? Or are they pretty much used for
different types of bends completely?
It seems to me that a press brake would produce a more accurate long
bend.
Clif
640-0039
http://homebuilt.duck.org
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| Subject: | Re: XL Top side of skin for rear stabilizer... |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: CLOJAN@aol.com
In a message dated 4/11/2003 12:35:03 PM Pacific Standard Time,
wr.giacona@cox-internet.com writes:
> If in 25 you put the boards in to strap down the skin how do you then
> mark the rivet lines as directed in 26.
You will find a lot of confusing instructions as you move through the XL
manuel. First mark a center line on all of the ribs and spars flanges. I
laid out the rivet lines with the skin flat on the bench as shown in T-44,
predrilled the entire side with #40, then you can look through the holes and
line up with the center lines. Make sure to measure and re measure all the
distances on your skeleton before you drill. It worked for me.
Jack Russell Clovis-CA
Xl #5000 installing main spar in fuselage
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