---------------------------------------------------------- Zenith-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 04/14/03: 7 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 08:59 AM - Re: Hi all looking for 601 (Morgan Wadsworth) 2. 11:29 AM - Re: Piano hinge retainment (Scott Laughlin) 3. 11:44 AM - Re: Mufflers for Subaru engine (Gary Gower) 4. 01:00 PM - Re: Mufflers for Subaru engine (Aaron) 5. 04:53 PM - Re: Mufflers for Subaru engine (Michel Therrien) 6. 08:47 PM - Web site update (Michel Therrien) 7. 10:24 PM - Re: Piano hinge retainment (Gary Gower) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 08:59:40 AM PST US From: "Morgan Wadsworth" Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Hi all looking for 601 --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Morgan Wadsworth" Noel & Yoshie, If you go to www.controller.com, click on experimental aircraft, then choose zenith and zenair there was a 601 80% complete for sale, there are also some completed and flying 601's forsale as well. Hope this helps... Morgan IV -----Original Message----- From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Noel & Yoshie Simmons Subject: Zenith-List: Hi all looking for 601 --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Noel & Yoshie Simmons" Hi all, Looking for a 601 un-completed kit for sale. Must be a complete kit. Will look at kits with FWF's too. Noel Noel and Yoshie Simmons Blue Sky Aviation, Inc. "We do builder assistance!" Toll Free: 866-859-0390 info@blueskyaviation.net www.blueskyaviation.net ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 11:29:58 AM PST US From: "Scott Laughlin" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Piano hinge retainment --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Scott Laughlin" Wayne: I found something today that might be interesting to you. Check out this pin retainment idea: http://www.cooknwithgas.com/HingeSafety.jpg This is one I had not seen. Take care, Scott Laughlin www.cooknwithgas.com ----Original Message Follows---- From: "Wayne Glasser" Subject: Zenith-List: Piano hinge retainment --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Wayne Glasser" Would constructors mind enlightening me as to what methods they have used to retain the piano hinge wire on their elevators and trim tabs etc. Regards Wayne Glasser Sydney - Australia 610XL 5075 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 11:44:13 AM PST US From: Gary Gower Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Mufflers for Subaru engine --> Zenith-List message posted by: Gary Gower Michel, I made one 3 years ago for another plane (Volksplane), I used normal steel mesh and a 3" alum tube (one available), my idea was just to test it, and change it (or trow it away) a few months, well, the sound is very low and still is on the plane, I found the SS mesh a few weeks later and is still in the shop... The VP was sold and is still flying silently. Saludos Gary Gower 710 --- Michel Therrien wrote: > --> Zenith-List message posted by: Michel Therrien > > I thought seriously about that for a while, but I > can't find the SS mesh nor the 4" aluminum tube. > > > --- Larry McFarland wrote: > > --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Larry McFarland" > > > > > > Michel, > > Tony Bingilis's book Firewall Forward has a very > > interesting Swiss Muffler > > ===== > ---------------------------- > Michel Therrien CH601-HD > http://mthobby.pcperfect.com/ch601 > http://www.zenithair.com/bldrlist/profiles/mthobby > http://pages.infinit.net/mthobby > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 01:00:33 PM PST US From: "Aaron" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Mufflers for Subaru engine --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Aaron" The Subarus I have seen and heard are not very loud. In fact, one had about 15" straight pipes and even it was not objectionable. I'm using a two into one collector with a single outlet. The inlets are blocked off on the ends and enough 1/4" inch holes drilled in the side to equal the pipe ID.Hope to test run in the next 60 days. Aaron ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michel Therrien" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Mufflers for Subaru engine > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 04:53:14 PM PST US From: Michel Therrien Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Mufflers for Subaru engine --> Zenith-List message posted by: Michel Therrien One of my friends use two straight pipes (about 18" long) with a closed (but not blocked) end and holes. This approach is described in Bingelis (Firewall Forward). His engine is an EA-82 and I must say that on the ground, we can hear him coming and we instantly recognize him. Noisy. I'd prefer something quieter than that. Michel --- Aaron wrote: > --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Aaron" > > > The Subarus I have seen and heard are not very loud. > In fact, one had about > 15" straight pipes and even it was not > objectionable. I'm using a two into > one collector with a single outlet. The inlets are > blocked off on the ends > and enough 1/4" inch holes drilled in the side to > equal the pipe ID.Hope to > test run in the next 60 days. > Aaron > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Michel Therrien" > To: > Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Mufflers for Subaru engine > > > > > > Contributions > any other > Forums. > > latest messages. > List members. > > http://www.matronics.com/subscription > http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Zenith-List.htm > Digests:http://www.matronics.com/digest/zenith-list > http://www.matronics.com/archives > http://www.matronics.com/photoshare > http://www.matronics.com/emaillists > > > > > ===== ---------------------------- Michel Therrien CH601-HD http://mthobby.pcperfect.com/ch601 http://www.zenithair.com/bldrlist/profiles/mthobby http://pages.infinit.net/mthobby ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 08:47:58 PM PST US From: Michel Therrien Subject: Zenith-List: Web site update --> Zenith-List message posted by: Michel Therrien I worked on my web site a little bit yesterday and this evening. Well I'd like to thank Don again for hosting this. It is now taking 151 Mb of storage space for the 3666 files of whose, 3470 are picture files. Michel Do not archive ===== ---------------------------- Michel Therrien CH601-HD http://mthobby.pcperfect.com/ch601 http://www.zenithair.com/bldrlist/profiles/mthobby http://pages.infinit.net/mthobby http://search.yahoo.com ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 10:24:14 PM PST US From: Gary Gower Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Piano hinge retainment --> Zenith-List message posted by: Gary Gower Good idea, but MILES away from KIS... Saludos Gary Gower 701 912S GDL, Mexico Installing everything to the fuselage (gear, tail, controls...) --- Scott Laughlin wrote: > --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Scott Laughlin" > > > Wayne: > > I found something today that might be interesting to you. Check out > this > pin retainment idea: > > http://www.cooknwithgas.com/HingeSafety.jpg > > This is one I had not seen. > > Take care, > > Scott Laughlin > www.cooknwithgas.com > > > ----Original Message Follows---- > From: "Wayne Glasser" > To: > Subject: Zenith-List: Piano hinge retainment > Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2003 07:03:07 +1000 > > --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Wayne Glasser" > > > Would constructors mind enlightening me as to what methods they have > used to > retain the piano hinge wire on their elevators and trim tabs etc. > > Regards > > Wayne Glasser > Sydney - Australia > 610XL 5075 > > > > > > > > http://search.yahoo.com