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1. 03:04 AM - Re: Zenith Super Zodiac CH 601 HDS First Flight (Philip Polstra)
2. 05:52 AM - Re: Solid Flush Rivets (Grant Corriveau)
3. 05:56 AM - Re: Solid Flush Rivets ()
4. 06:14 AM - Re: First flight (Grant Corriveau)
5. 06:20 AM - Re: Zenith Super Zodiac CH 601 HDS First Flight (Grant Corriveau)
6. 08:16 AM - Re: Zenith Super Zodiac CH 601 HDS First Flight (Pinneo, George)
7. 09:04 AM - Re: Zenith Super Zodiac CH 601 HDS First Flight (Garrou, Douglas)
8. 10:37 AM - Re: Solid Flush Rivets (JNBOLDING1)
9. 10:43 AM - Re: Solid Flush Rivets (nhulin)
10. 11:42 AM - Re: Zenith Super Zodiac CH 601 HDS First Flight (g t)
11. 12:05 PM - Re: angle aluminum supplier - 701, plans (David Barth)
12. 01:57 PM - Re: Solid Flush Rivets (Monty Graves)
13. 02:02 PM - Re: angle aluminum supplier - 701, plans (Monty Graves)
14. 02:06 PM - Re: 601 HDS First Flight (Jeff Small)
15. 02:17 PM - Re: angle aluminum supplier - 701, plans (Jeff Small)
16. 02:42 PM - Re: Solid Flush Rivets (Mark Townsend)
17. 02:45 PM - Re: Zenith Super Zodiac CH 601 HDS First Flight (Larry McFarland)
18. 03:08 PM - Re: angle aluminum supplier - 701, plans (Monty Graves)
19. 04:13 PM - xl flap motor (skydvr)
20. 04:42 PM - Re: angle aluminum supplier - 701, plans (Doug Mendonca)
21. 04:42 PM - Re: angle aluminum supplier - 701, plans (Robert Hillebrand)
22. 04:52 PM - Re: Solid Flush Rivets (Dave Alberti)
23. 05:26 PM - Re: angle aluminum supplier - 701, plans (Monty Graves)
24. 05:28 PM - Re: angle aluminum supplier - 701, plans (Monty Graves)
25. 07:20 PM - 701 wing tank series wiring (LARRY BOHANNON)
26. 10:57 PM - 1/4" poly tubing for brakes (Jim Frisby)
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| Subject: | Zenith Super Zodiac CH 601 HDS First Flight |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Philip Polstra" <ppolstra@mindspring.com>
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Rick Herndon <rickherndon@erols.com>
> Just wanted to let you know that N601DH made it's maiden flight at 9:30
> this morning from Warrenton-Fauquire County Airport (W66). The flight
> was both exhilarating and uneventful.
Congratulations!!!! It is a great feeling isn't it. I just realized that
Friday marks the anniversary of my HDS receiving it's airworthiness
certificate. Now if I only had time to put more than the 75 hours I put on
it this year.
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| Subject: | Re: Solid Flush Rivets |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Grant Corriveau <grantc@ca.inter.net>
> From: "JNBOLDING1" <JNBOLDING1@mail.ev1.net>
> Reply-To: zenith-list@matronics.com
> Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2003 21:39:13 -0500
> To: <zenith-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Solid Flush Rivets
>
> The fellow will have several HUNDRED dollars in his pocket left over for gas
> in his smooth skin Zodie.
How do you figure this? Surely not due to drag reduction? The difference
will be barely measurable.
fwiw, imho
Grant C.
601HDS
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| Subject: | Re: Solid Flush Rivets |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: <zenith@portouw.com>
This thread is the best entertainment Ive had all week! Floozie pigs,
belly buttons,.... Thanks.
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Larry Portouw
Larry@portouw.com
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Time: 07:06:24 PM PST US Subject: Re: Solid Flush Rivets From:
wizard-24@juno.com
--> Zenith-List message posted by: wizard-24@juno.com
> Well, I know you know you were asking for it, so I will give you a
> little.
> Your comparisons are mostly fair until you get to the lipstick on a
> pig. lol
> Speak for your own bird!! Mine is a cutie. If you are doubtful I'll
> send you a pic. Don W
Alright, alright. Maybe the lipstick/pig analogy wasn't the most
appropriate. My apologies to Don (no pics necessary -- I trust you)
and
all the others that have built truly remarkable pieces of work. What I
meant by that statement is that it makes no sense to put lipstick on a
pig, just as it makes no sense to use solid rivets on a Zodie. Maybe I
should have used "training wheels on a tank" instead? :)
Mike
XL pig, w/o lipstick
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| Subject: | Re: First flight |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Grant Corriveau <grantc@ca.inter.net>
> From: "Don Walker" <dwalk3dw@msn.com>
> Good idea! They call it "chair flying" in the Air Force. My son did hours
> of this with a full size instrument panel posted on the wall in front of
> him.
Good for him! Glad he's safe.
just in case anyone's interested....
This kind of 'chair flying' is actually becoming a main-stay of training for
the new-generation electronic aircraft. There is an entire level of training
on the glass/magic before we even go to the Full Flight Simulator. We use a
'procedures trainer' or 'glass trainer' to learn what happens with the
'tooobs' when we push the buttons... This level of training used to be done
on the 'paper tiger' (i.e. a full-sized picture of the panels) but with the
electronic boxes, these have had to be 'upgraded'. (but the paper bombers
are still there for that very first level of panel familiarity/training on a
new aircraft).
Grant C.
my 'other airplane' is an airbus
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| Subject: | Re: Zenith Super Zodiac CH 601 HDS First Flight |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Grant Corriveau <grantc@ca.inter.net>
Congrats! Take a bow... ;-) you deserve it. well done.
Grant C.
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> From: Rick Herndon <rickherndon@erols.com>
> Reply-To: zenith-list@matronics.com
> Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2003 23:17:01 -0400
> To: zenith-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Zenith-List: Zenith Super Zodiac CH 601 HDS First Flight
>
>
> Will post more info as I collect data!
>
> Rick Herndon
> CH 601 HDS
> N601DH
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| Subject: | Zenith Super Zodiac CH 601 HDS First Flight |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Pinneo, George" <George.Pinneo@trw.com>
Congratulations!
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GGP
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| Subject: | Zenith Super Zodiac CH 601 HDS First Flight |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Garrou, Douglas" <dgarrou@hunton.com>
Congrats Rick! We're building an 801 next door to Hanover (OFP) north of
Richmond, so let me know if you come down this way as we would love to ogle
your new bird.
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Doug G.
Time: 08:21:40 PM PST US
From: Rick Herndon <rickherndon@erols.com>
Subject: Zenith-List: Zenith Super Zodiac CH 601 HDS First Flight
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Rick Herndon <rickherndon@erols.com>
Just wanted to let you know that N601DH made it's maiden flight at 9:30
this morning from Warrenton-Fauquire County Airport (W66).
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| Subject: | Re: Solid Flush Rivets |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "JNBOLDING1" <JNBOLDING1@mail.ev1.net>
---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: Grant Corriveau <grantc@ca.inter.net>
>> Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Solid Flush Rivets
>>
>> The fellow will have several HUNDRED dollars in his pocket left over for gas
>> in his smooth skin Zodie.
>
>How do you figure this? Surely not due to drag reduction? The difference
>will be barely measurable.
>
>fwiw, imho
>
>Grant C.
>601HDS
>
>NEWish !!
i assumed from the post that we were talking scratch building where you weren't
tied to what came in the kit. If so then purchase price of the rivets to build
an airplane will amount to "SEVERAL HUNDRED" dollas when comparing Avex to solid.
It could be argued that you have to have a compressor and rivet gun and
bucking bars but you only need 1/4 hp worth of compressor and used gun set up
could be bought and resold when finished.
This is kinda like argueing about Fords and Chevys. Both rivet systems work.
LOW&SLOW John
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| Subject: | Re: Solid Flush Rivets |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "nhulin" <nhulin@hotmail.com>
On Tue Apr 29 - 7:06 PM wizard-24@juno.com wrote:
> Maybe I should have used "training wheels on a tank" instead? :)
Mike,
So what is your problem with tanks?
Anyway, didn't Chris say something about "form following functionality"?
At least the Zodiac looks better than a Sonex.... ouch! ;)
...neil
601XL - wings and stuff (still...)
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| Subject: | Re: Zenith Super Zodiac CH 601 HDS First Flight |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: g t <wauwis2002@yahoo.com>
Congratulations Rick, I look forward to the day of excitement you just experienced.
You have every right to be excited, and proud of your accomplishment. TomStill
dreaming of building more the the rudder of the 701.
Rick Herndon <rickherndon@erols.com> wrote:--> Zenith-List message posted by: Rick
Herndon
Just wanted to let you know that N601DH made it's maiden flight at 9:30
this morning from Warrenton-Fauquire County Airport (W66). The flight
was both exhilarating and uneventful. I don't have much performance
data to report but was extremely pleased with stability and handling
characteristics. Controllability was excellent for the shallow 20 degree
banking turns and gentle climbs and descents. She flew straight and
level with no heavy wing tendency. Air temperature for the flight was
about 65 degrees. Oil temp stayed around 190-200 and water temp around
220. When I checked max static rpm a few days ago the oil temp
approached 280 - close to red line! Air temp was in the upper 70s. Oil
cooler is mounted below Rotax gearbox and water radiator is mounted
under fuselage per Zac design.
Prior to landing, I did a couple of slow flights to around 65 mph.
Didn't experience any buffeting or excessive mushiness. Flew approach
to landing around 80 -85 mph. Landing declared successful when aircraft
rolled away from impact area under its own power!
Aircraft info: CH 601 HDS, forward tilt canopy, Rotax 912 ULS, Warp
Drive 3 blade 70" dia prop, 12 degree pitch measured at tip, Max static
RPM - 5,300. Empty weight, 605 lbs. Flight weight 818 lbs. CG 12.6".
Header tank (16 gal) and Baggage locker wing tanks (7.5 gal ea.)
Will post more info as I collect data!
Rick Herndon
CH 601 HDS
N601DH
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| Subject: | Re: angle aluminum supplier - 701, plans |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: David Barth <davids601xl@yahoo.com>
Hi Doug.
For my money Mark T. is right. I did a really
extensive search and found one company that would
supply it on a custom order. Minimum order is 500
lengths or 12 feet each. Little too much for my
meager needs but I believe that is where ZAC gets it
from.
FWIW I am going with the 1/8"
David
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> Does anyone have a name/number for a company that
> supplies 3/4" x 3/4" x
> .093 angle aluminum?
>
> I've called several places with no luck - part of
> the problem may be
> that I've been referring to it as ".093" where I
> should have said "3/32"
> - three thirty-seconds is probably a more common
> reference when speaking
> to a phone-order-taker.
=====
David Barth
601 XL Plansbuilder
Currently making parts.
Stab and Rudder waiting for skins
__________________________________
http://search.yahoo.com
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| Subject: | Re: Solid Flush Rivets |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Monty Graves <mgraves@usmo.com>
First Zenith charges the kit buyers almost exactly what the scratch
builders pay for materials they purchase from Zenith. It is just how
Zenith prices their kits. They price each and every piece in each sub kit
then add up the the prices of all the pieces in that kit assembly. The
scratch builder can purchase any piece of the 601 or 701 for the same cost
as the kit buyer. Or one can make any or all of it themselves, saving
Zeniths overhead, labor costs, and fair profit. In this case if
purchased from Zenith rivets cost both the kit and scratch builder 8.5
cents per blind rivet. The same English made avex rivet can be purchased
in Canada and shipped to the US via UPS for about 3 cents per rivet
depending on the exchange rate at the time. Little over $500 savings for
the rivets. If you order the apox 8000 rivets needed. The phone number is
in the archives.
>
>i assumed from the post that we were talking scratch building where you
weren't tied to what came in the kit. If so then purchase price of the
rivets to build an airplane will amount to "SEVERAL HUNDRED" dollas when
comparing Avex to solid. It could be argued that you have to have a
compressor and rivet gun and bucking bars but you only need 1/4 hp worth of
compressor and used gun set up could be bought and resold when finished.
>
>This is kinda like argueing about Fords and Chevys. Both rivet systems
work. LOW&SLOW John
>
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| Subject: | Re: angle aluminum supplier - 701, plans |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Monty Graves <mgraves@usmo.com>
I didn't try Dillsburg in PA. (I don't have there phone number) They might
have the .093 extrusions. I went with the .125 also. Nick approved the
substitution in all places on the 701. I calculated increased weight of
around 2 lbs or less. There is very little .093 in the plane. spar caps
and some brackets
>--> Zenith-List message posted by: David Barth <davids601xl@yahoo.com>
>
>Hi Doug.
>For my money Mark T. is right. I did a really
>extensive search and found one company that would
>supply it on a custom order. Minimum order is 500
>lengths or 12 feet each. Little too much for my
>meager needs but I believe that is where ZAC gets it
>from.
>FWIW I am going with the 1/8"
>David
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>> Does anyone have a name/number for a company that
>> supplies 3/4" x 3/4" x
>> .093 angle aluminum?
>>
>> I've called several places with no luck - part of
>> the problem may be
>> that I've been referring to it as ".093" where I
>> should have said "3/32"
>> - three thirty-seconds is probably a more common
>> reference when speaking
>> to a phone-order-taker.
>
>
>=====
>David Barth
>601 XL Plansbuilder
>Currently making parts.
>Stab and Rudder waiting for skins
>
>__________________________________
>http://search.yahoo.com
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: 601 HDS First Flight |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Jeff Small" <zodiacjeff@msn.com>
>Just wanted to let you know that N601DH made it's maiden flight at 9:30
>this morning from Warrenton-Fauquire County Airport (W66).
Kudos Rick, kudos. May the Phase One testing come off without a hitch. Do
your Operating Limitations allow for distances that would take in OKV?
Would be nice to see it there on the 17th or 18th. Roger Kilby will
probably have his in attendance - we might have three or more there.
Congrats
jeff
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| Subject: | Re: angle aluminum supplier - 701, plans |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Jeff Small" <zodiacjeff@msn.com>
>I didn't try Dillsburg in PA. (I don't have there phone number) They might
>have the .093 extrusions.
I was just checking the DAW (Dillsburg Aeroplane Works) catalogue a minute
ago. No .093 in 6061 T-6 or 2024 T-3.
Their price for 1/8 is $1.10 a foot.
If you guys ever saw this place you would not believe it - it's a barn and
chicken coops, but they have a myriad of raw materials.
Phone is (717) 432-4589. This is also their fax number so it might be tied
up. I'm lucky, I live eight miles away.
Regards jeff
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| Subject: | Re: Solid Flush Rivets |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Mark Townsend" <601xl@sympatico.ca>
Guys , THANKS
Lipstick, pigs, tanks, training wheels! It has brought more then one chuckle
to me this week. Every once in awhile it is good to hear a few rant, and
lighten our days. Now what do you mean by a zodie looks better then a
sonnex? Surely a Sonnex must have some sex appeal?!?
Mark Townsend
601XL EA-82 MPFI Turbo
-----Original Message-----
>> Well, I know you know you were asking for it, so I will give you a
>> little.
>> Your comparisons are mostly fair until you get to the lipstick on a
>> pig. lol
>> Speak for your own bird!! Mine is a cutie. If you are doubtful I'll
>> send you a pic. Don W
>
>Alright, alright. Maybe the lipstick/pig analogy wasn't the most
>appropriate. My apologies to Don (no pics necessary -- I trust you) and
>all the others that have built truly remarkable pieces of work. What I
>meant by that statement is that it makes no sense to put lipstick on a
>pig, just as it makes no sense to use solid rivets on a Zodie. Maybe I
>should have used "training wheels on a tank" instead? :)
>
>Mike
>XL pig, w/o lipstick
>
>do not archive
>
>The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand!
>Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER!
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Zenith Super Zodiac CH 601 HDS First Flight |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Larry McFarland" <larrymc@qconline.com>
Congratulations Rick!
This has got to be a real surge for you.
Keep us up to date on your flight experience as things develop.
Very pleased to hear of a launch from the nest.
Larry C. McFarland - 601hds
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Rick Herndon" <rickherndon@erols.com>
Subject: Zenith-List: Zenith Super Zodiac CH 601 HDS First Flight
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: Rick Herndon <rickherndon@erols.com>
>
> Just wanted to let you know that N601DH made it's maiden flight at 9:30
> this morning from Warrenton-Fauquire County Airport (W66).
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| Subject: | Re: angle aluminum supplier - 701, plans |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Monty Graves <mgraves@usmo.com>
Thanks Jeff,
thats too bad on the .093 but a great price on .125
Dillsburg does not have web site that I know of. But they have been
helping homebuilders for many many years. I have been told they also have
some of the cheapest prices of all the suppliers.
.
At 05:18 PM 4/30/03 -0400, you wrote:
>--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Jeff Small" <zodiacjeff@msn.com>
>
>
>>I didn't try Dillsburg in PA. (I don't have there phone number) They might
>>have the .093 extrusions.
>
>I was just checking the DAW (Dillsburg Aeroplane Works) catalogue a minute
>ago. No .093 in 6061 T-6 or 2024 T-3.
>
>Their price for 1/8 is $1.10 a foot.
>
>If you guys ever saw this place you would not believe it - it's a barn and
>chicken coops, but they have a myriad of raw materials.
>
>Phone is (717) 432-4589. This is also their fax number so it might be tied
>up. I'm lucky, I live eight miles away.
>
>Regards jeff
>
>do not archive
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "skydvr" <airplane@skydvr.com>
I am getting close to installing the flap motor but have not been able to find
a vendor for this part,any one know of a vendor that would carry this item at
a good cost
skydvr@skydvr.com
Anchorage,Alaska
601-Xl-plans
currently working on the the control hardware
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| Subject: | angle aluminum supplier - 701, plans |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Doug Mendonca" <doug@photorola.com>
Thanks to all for the info on the .092 extrusion - looks like it's hard
to get..
A couple readers thought I was talking about the "L" angle - I should
have said "extrusion" - I'm bending the "L" myself...wish I could
extrude. :)
Monty - I thought the fuse longerons and braces were all .093 -- guess I
need to go back and check the plans. The sample materials list shows 4
20 foot lengths, which (now that I think about it) would only cover the
spar caps and some brackets, you're right..(I could have *sworn* the
longers were .093!?)
If I can't find the .093 after a few more phone calls I'll go ahead and
use .125. Will re-verify with ZAC about that..
Regardless, I'm having a awfully good time hammering this pig out...it's
such an odd experience to be pounding mercilessly on aluminum, realizing
that you're employing cave-man technique on a modern aircraft...what a
wonderful juxtaposition!
-d.
-----Original Message-----
From: Monty Graves [mailto:mgraves@usmo.com]
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: angle aluminum supplier - 701, plans
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Monty Graves <mgraves@usmo.com>
I didn't try Dillsburg in PA. (I don't have there phone number) They
might
have the .093 extrusions. I went with the .125 also. Nick approved
the
substitution in all places on the 701. I calculated increased weight of
around 2 lbs or less. There is very little .093 in the plane. spar
caps
and some brackets
>--> Zenith-List message posted by: David Barth <davids601xl@yahoo.com>
>
>Hi Doug.
>For my money Mark T. is right. I did a really
>extensive search and found one company that would
>supply it on a custom order. Minimum order is 500
>lengths or 12 feet each. Little too much for my
>meager needs but I believe that is where ZAC gets it
>from.
>FWIW I am going with the 1/8"
>David
>do not archive
>> Does anyone have a name/number for a company that
>> supplies 3/4" x 3/4" x
>> .093 angle aluminum?
>>
>> I've called several places with no luck - part of
>> the problem may be
>> that I've been referring to it as ".093" where I
>> should have said "3/32"
>> - three thirty-seconds is probably a more common
>> reference when speaking
>> to a phone-order-taker.
>
>
>=====
>David Barth
>601 XL Plansbuilder
>Currently making parts.
>Stab and Rudder waiting for skins
>
>__________________________________
>http://search.yahoo.com
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: angle aluminum supplier - 701, plans |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Robert Hillebrand <masterbogun@yahoo.com>
HelloYou don't know me but I am building a 701 also. Did you know you can get .125
in long enough lengths that you won't have to make that exstension on the
spar at the end to complete the wing. Also i don't know where you are located
but I have a good supplier of materials here in St.Louis. Nice talking to you.......Bo
Monty Graves <mgraves@usmo.com> wrote:--> Zenith-List message posted by: Monty
Graves
Thanks Jeff,
thats too bad on the .093 but a great price on .125
Dillsburg does not have web site that I know of. But they have been
helping homebuilders for many many years. I have been told they also have
some of the cheapest prices of all the suppliers.
.
At 05:18 PM 4/30/03 -0400, you wrote:
>--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Jeff Small"
>
>
>>I didn't try Dillsburg in PA. (I don't have there phone number) They might
>>have the .093 extrusions.
>
>I was just checking the DAW (Dillsburg Aeroplane Works) catalogue a minute
>ago. No .093 in 6061 T-6 or 2024 T-3.
>
>Their price for 1/8 is $1.10 a foot.
>
>If you guys ever saw this place you would not believe it - it's a barn and
>chicken coops, but they have a myriad of raw materials.
>
>Phone is (717) 432-4589. This is also their fax number so it might be tied
>up. I'm lucky, I live eight miles away.
>
>Regards jeff
>
>do not archive
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| Subject: | Solid Flush Rivets |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Dave Alberti" <daberti@execpc.com>
A pig rolled in flour ;)
Do not archive
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Mark Townsend
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Solid Flush Rivets
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Mark Townsend" <601xl@sympatico.ca>
Guys , THANKS
Lipstick, pigs, tanks, training wheels! It has brought more then one chuckle
to me this week. Every once in awhile it is good to hear a few rant, and
lighten our days. Now what do you mean by a zodie looks better then a
sonnex? Surely a Sonnex must have some sex appeal?!?
Mark Townsend
601XL EA-82 MPFI Turbo
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| Subject: | angle aluminum supplier - 701, plans |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Monty Graves <mgraves@usmo.com>
701 .093 longerons are only for the tail wheel option.. .040 longerons
for the nose wheel standard version.
Monty
At 04:41 PM 4/30/03 -0700, you wrote:
>--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Doug Mendonca" <doug@photorola.com>
>
>
>Monty - I thought the fuse longerons and braces were all .093 -- guess I
>need to go back and check the plans. The sample materials list shows 4
>20 foot lengths, which (now that I think about it) would only cover the
>spar caps and some brackets, you're right..(I could have *sworn* the
>longers were .093!?)
>
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| Subject: | Re: angle aluminum supplier - 701, plans |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Monty Graves <mgraves@usmo.com>
Hi Bo,
Nice to meet you. SHAPIRO Supply?
Monty
At 04:41 PM 4/30/03 -0700, you wrote:
>--> Zenith-List message posted by: Robert Hillebrand <masterbogun@yahoo.com>
>
>HelloYou don't know me but I am building a 701 also. Did you know you can
get .125 in long enough lengths that you won't have to make that exstension
on the spar at the end to complete the wing. Also i don't know where you
are located but I have a good supplier of materials here in St.Louis. Nice
talking to you.......Bo
>
>Monty Graves <mgraves@usmo.com> wrote:--> Zenith-List message posted by:
Monty Graves
>
>Thanks Jeff,
>
>thats too bad on the .093 but a great price on .125
>
>Dillsburg does not have web site that I know of. But they have been
>helping homebuilders for many many years. I have been told they also have
>some of the cheapest prices of all the suppliers.
>
>.
>
>At 05:18 PM 4/30/03 -0400, you wrote:
>>--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Jeff Small"
>>
>>
>>>I didn't try Dillsburg in PA. (I don't have there phone number) They might
>>>have the .093 extrusions.
>>
>>I was just checking the DAW (Dillsburg Aeroplane Works) catalogue a minute
>>ago. No .093 in 6061 T-6 or 2024 T-3.
>>
>>Their price for 1/8 is $1.10 a foot.
>>
>>If you guys ever saw this place you would not believe it - it's a barn and
>>chicken coops, but they have a myriad of raw materials.
>>
>>Phone is (717) 432-4589. This is also their fax number so it might be tied
>>up. I'm lucky, I live eight miles away.
>>
>>Regards jeff
>>
>>do not archive
>
>
>---------------------------------
>
>
>
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| Subject: | 701 wing tank series wiring |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "LARRY BOHANNON" <lbohannon1@msn.com>
I am wanting to use one of the Engine Management Systems in my 701 like is used
on a lot of ultralights.It has a fuel gauge included in the display.It says if
you have 2 gas tanks you can wire the senders "in series" and it will display
the total fuel of both tanks combined. I would rather use this than the 2 VDO
fuel gauges that were supplied by Zenith.However, as I'm not real bright when
it comes to electrical things, I'm having a hard time figuring out how to wire
this, especially with the grounding to airframe stuff which is confusing me.I
know when wiring stuff like stereo speakers etc. "in series" that you run from
positive(power) to positive on speaker,then the speaker negative to the positive
on next speaker etc. and on and on..
What I need to know is if this will work with the fuel senders on a metal airplane.Would
I just run the negative from one sender to the positive on the next
sender etc.?/ Would I then not need to ground the tank or sender to the airframe?Would
I have to guard against the metal tank touching the airframe any where
or what? Like I said , It's confusing to me with the airframe grounding and
I want to make sure I don't wire up the fuel tanks in some deadly manner.
Anybody know what to do?Help is greatly appreciated as I'm kind of stalled out
on proceeding with work on the wing until I can figure this out.Thanks .
Larry Bohannon
Stol 701 #5040
Winder, Georgia
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| Subject: | 1/4" poly tubing for brakes |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Jim Frisby" <marslander@hotmail.com>
I'm going to run short of the 1/4" brake tubing supplied in my CH801 kit. I
need to get some more, but I don't know the spec. I assume it's some kind
of "hardware stuff". Does anyone know for sure?
Thanks
Jim Frisby
N801ZA
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