Zenith-List Digest Archive

Sun 05/04/03


Total Messages Posted: 9



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 05:37 AM - Re: CG range in XL (Bill Howerton)
     2. 07:48 AM - Re: Stabilizer Skin Bending (Mark Townsend)
     3. 12:50 PM - Panel (Mark Townsend)
     4. 02:03 PM - illness causes sale of 601 HD project / 90% complete (Fred Poor)
     5. 02:17 PM - more info about 601HD for sale (Fred Poor)
     6. 04:42 PM - 701 down (David Barth)
     7. 05:25 PM - Re: 701 down (Chesterman Family)
     8. 06:58 PM - 601 Gear Legs (David Tellet)
     9. 07:22 PM - Re: 601 Gear Legs (Michel Therrien)
 
 
 


Message 1


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    Time: 05:37:54 AM PST US
    From: "Bill Howerton" <Bill@Howerton.com>
    Subject: Re: CG range in XL
    --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Bill Howerton" <Bill@Howerton.com> Let me begin Chris by offering my heartfelt congratulations on your near completion of your HD. That's quite an accomplishment -- I'm envious! To answer your question, according to my XL plans, the CG range is 300mm to 450 mm from the datum > --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Chris Weber" <chrisoz@gmx.net> > > Hello XL-builders, > > I am a week away from the first flight of my modified, scratch built HD > taildragger over here in Australia, and while I am elated and terrified at > the prospect I know from experience that I will miss building. I finished my > first Zodiac, a kit 601 UL taildragger, April last year, and in July I > started the HD. So the withdrawal symtoms are just around the corner. > I had a long hard look at the XL plans on the web yesterday, and I like what > I see. Especially the wing profile with the flaps. And here is the question > I want to pop you guys: With that profile the CG range should be wider and > further back than the HD's. Could you have a look in your plans and tell me > where it is from datum line (LE?), so I can compare? > I'd very much appreciate that. > And as far as first flight and the intense pucker-factor is concerned, once > she has been inspected and registered on Wednesday I will post my 'Hail > thee, Ceasar' with some last minute pictures before I take her up. > > Cheers, > > Chris Weber > > Zodiac 601 HD taildragger AUF 19-3891 'Brick' > EA81, Amax Redrive, Razorback with rollover protection and gullwing doors, > BRS 1050 in nose, wide tyres, longer undercarriage, 90 l in two LE-tanks, > and last not least 715 lbs empty weight including oil and coolant. > >


    Message 2


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    Time: 07:48:13 AM PST US
    From: "Mark Townsend" <601xl@sympatico.ca>
    Subject: Re: Stabilizer Skin Bending
    --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Mark Townsend" <601xl@sympatico.ca> Did you receive the message I sent you? My mail server has been acting up lately. Mark -----Original Message----- From: Scott Laughlin <cookwithgas@hotmail.com> Subject: Zenith-List: Stabilizer Skin Bending >--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Scott Laughlin" <cookwithgas@hotmail.com> > >Listers: > >I know many of you are past this stage, but if you are plans-building and >have not bent your stabilizer skin, I want to report that the ZAC drawing >suggestion of making a plywood section with a 24mm spacer and pressing down >on the sheet works GREAT! It takes two people and some care, but I was >surprised at the results. I did it last night and ended up with an >excellent bend with no wrinkles. > >I found out this is new to the drawings (6T2-4) so if you have an old set, >you may want to drop me a line and I'll explain how to do it. I have been >looking at Zodiac builder photos on web sites for months and I don't >remember seeing mention of this method. > >You can see the board I built on my website under "Stabilizer Construction." >Better yet, clicky: > >http://www.cooknwithgas.com/5_01_03Bentskin2.jpg > >You can see the board on the left and the skin clamped and bent on the >right. The spacer is the length of the board and is 24mm thick. > >My hat's off to the Zenith guys for coming up with this time-saving trick. > > >Take care, > >Scott Laughlin >601XL Plans >http://www.cooknwithgas.com > >


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    Time: 12:50:04 PM PST US
    From: "Mark Townsend" <601xl@sympatico.ca>
    Subject: Panel
    --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Mark Townsend" <601xl@sympatico.ca> Does anyone have a Composites Design Homebuilders power panel ? I need a little info on this unit. Mark


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    Time: 02:03:45 PM PST US
    From: Fred Poor <fredspoor2002@yahoo.com>
    Subject: illness causes sale of 601 HD project / 90% complete
    --> Zenith-List message posted by: Fred Poor <fredspoor2002@yahoo.com> Zenith List: Chance to save $$$ and get a plane which is almost complete--- I have a friend who has to sell his 601 HD project due to a change in his medical status. I asked him if I could post this info on this list first, before he advertised this to the general public--- after about a week this plane will be advertised to different "for sale" sites. This plane is over 90% complete. He has built the windshield, with "gull wing" doors and rear side windows style cockpit. At this time this is ready to attach to the fuselage--- if not used, a bubble canopy can still be installed at this time. The complete airframe is sitting on its' gear. Wings only need tip panels riveted on. Rudder complete, Elevator complete. Horz. Stab. Complete. He has the engine mount installed which will accept the VW engine. He has the fuel tank readt install---- plane still needs instrument panel installed. This plane has NO connections to the FAA paper trail. This plane has great workmanship throughout-- He is also going to sell his NEW, zero time VW engine which he purchased from Great Plains. 1) airplane firewall aft (to include engine mount) asking: $11,500 2)NEW zero time VW engine ( 76 HP / 2180cc, rear drive, with Ellison carb and exhaust) by Great Plains asking: $4,500 He is willing to discuss the price on either item, but ask that they be reasonable. Bob is an elderely gentleman and wishes that you please follow these guidelines: 1) no phone calls before 10 a.m. EDT 2) no phone calls after 10 p.m. EDT Location is in southern Maine-------- call Bob at (207) 721-8974 PS I would be buying this myself, except I'm building the 601XL--- "fred" do not archive __________________________________ http://search.yahoo.com


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    Time: 02:17:20 PM PST US
    From: Fred Poor <fredspoor2002@yahoo.com>
    Subject: more info about 601HD for sale
    --> Zenith-List message posted by: Fred Poor <fredspoor2002@yahoo.com> List --- I just sent a letter about my friend who wishes to sell his 601 HD--- I forgot to include one item about contacting him -- see ****** below : ....... 1) no phone calls before 10 a.m. EDT ....... 2) no phone calls after 10 p.m. EDT ******* 3) serious callers only ........... "fred" do not archive __________________________________ http://search.yahoo.com


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    Time: 04:42:04 PM PST US
    From: David Barth <davids601xl@yahoo.com>
    Subject: 701 down
    --> Zenith-List message posted by: David Barth <davids601xl@yahoo.com> Hi List. My father-in-law handed me this article today about a 701 that had an emergency crash landing near London Ontario yesterday. All we know is that Joseph (J) Davis of Komoka had an engine failure - engine type not mentioned - and had to do an energency landing. It was unclear in the article but somehow he hit a fence trying to land on a private horse training track and flipped the plane. He was out of the plane by the time help got there and is apparently unhurt. The 701 has rather extensive damage judging from the picture in the paper. He had been flying the 701 out of Woodstock for more than three years according to the paper. That is about all the detail I have for now. Glad you are OK Joseph. David ===== David Barth 601 XL Plansbuilder Currently making parts. Stab and Rudder waiting for skins __________________________________ http://search.yahoo.com


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    Time: 05:25:38 PM PST US
    From: Chesterman Family <chesterman@on.aibn.com>
    Subject: Re: 701 down
    --> Zenith-List message posted by: Chesterman Family <chesterman@on.aibn.com> I fly with Jay regularly but have not talked to him since this happened. He is on this list so I am sure when the dust settles he will comment. The plane had a 582 rotax blue head and was in it when we flew to osh (13 hrs one way) in 2001. I knew when he got his Sonex finished I would not keep up but I thought we would still have some adventures this summer with our pair of 701's I still stand my conviction that if I have to land a plane in a "bad area" the slow 701 is my choice. Dave Chesterman 582-701 188.9 hrs as of last night David Barth wrote: > --> Zenith-List message posted by: David Barth <davids601xl@yahoo.com> > > Hi List. > My father-in-law handed me this article today about a > 701 that had an emergency crash landing near London > Ontario yesterday. All we know is that Joseph (J) > Davis of Komoka had an engine failure - engine type > not mentioned - and had to do an energency landing. > It was unclom/subscription


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    Time: 06:58:18 PM PST US
    Subject: 601 Gear Legs
    From: David Tellet <telletdl@erols.com>
    --> Zenith-List message posted by: David Tellet <telletdl@erols.com> From the archives I know a lot of you guys hard chromed your gear legs. For those who didn't, what did you do to protect the gear legs? Paint or just a lot of grease? By the way, what are people using to grease the leg and guides (and keep it greased)? Thanks in advance


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    Time: 07:22:00 PM PST US
    From: Michel Therrien <mtherr@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: 601 Gear Legs
    --> Zenith-List message posted by: Michel Therrien <mtherr@yahoo.com> I primed them with Omni by PPG epoxy primer. --- David Tellet <telletdl@erols.com> wrote: what did you do to protect > the gear legs? Paint > or just a lot of grease? ===== ---------------------------- Michel Therrien CH601-HD http://mthobby.pcperfect.com/ch601 http://www.zenithair.com/bldrlist/profiles/mthobby http://pages.infinit.net/mthobby __________________________________ http://search.yahoo.com




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