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1. 03:23 AM - Re: Zenith-List Digest: 28 Msgs - 05/14/03 (Mark Weiss)
2. 05:12 AM - Re: Zenith List: Fiberglass Cowling (Aaron)
3. 07:09 AM - Re: Zenith List: Fiberglass Cowling (Grant Corriveau)
4. 07:49 AM - Re: Zenith List: Fiberglass Cowling (Mark A. Wood)
5. 08:56 AM - Re: Zenith List: Fiberglass Cowling (Dave Austin)
6. 08:58 AM - Re: Zenith List: Fiberglass Cowling (HINDE,FRANK (HP-Corvallis,ex1))
7. 09:21 AM - Re: ch701 flt sim files (Mike Fothergill)
8. 03:08 PM - Re: ch701 flt sim files (Gary Gower)
9. 03:08 PM - Re: XL wing attachment (bruce thomas)
10. 03:57 PM - What Walmart tires? (HINDE,FRANK (HP-Corvallis,ex1))
11. 05:44 PM - Re: ZAC Pneumatic Rivet Puller (caspainhower@aep.com)
12. 06:55 PM - Re: What Walmart tires? (Don Walker)
13. 07:20 PM - Re: ch701 flt sim files (Robert Hillebrand)
14. 07:20 PM - Re: ch701 flt sim files (Robert Hillebrand)
15. 07:21 PM - Re: ch701 flt sim files (Robert Hillebrand)
16. 07:47 PM - Re: What Walmart tires? (Rick)
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| Subject: | RE: Zenith-List Digest: 28 Msgs - 05/14/03 |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Mark Weiss <mkweiss@palm.net>
Hi:
You have sent Mark Weiss an email. He is on vacation and will get back
to you when he returns.
Thanks
Mark Weiss
This message was sent from my Palm wireless email account.
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| Subject: | Re: Zenith List: Fiberglass Cowling |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Aaron" <agustafson@chartermi.net>
Doesn't putting the cowl under the skin go against aerodynamic principals?
What reason would there be to do such. What am I missing
Aaron
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From: <Schallgren@aol.com>
Subject: Zenith-List: Zenith List: Fiberglass Cowling
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: Schallgren@aol.com
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> List:
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> Frank says: "One thing, do not fit the cowl under the fuse skin as it is
> almost
> impossible to remove it with the prop fitted."
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| Subject: | Re: Zenith List: Fiberglass Cowling |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Grant Corriveau <grantc@ca.inter.net>
Actually, according to Chris Heinz, this reverse overlapping of skins/cowls
etc. is aerodynamically more efficient. There may be an explanation on the
Zenith website -- maybe in the 'tutorial' lessons from C.H....?
--
Grant Corriveau
C-GHTF / HDS / CAM100
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Aaron" <agustafson@chartermi.net>
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> Doesn't putting the cowl under the skin go against aerodynamic principals?
> What reason would there be to do such. What am I missing
> Aaron
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| Subject: | Re: Zenith List: Fiberglass Cowling |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Mark A. Wood" <Mark.Wood@uvm.edu>
If you go through some of Chris's writings, (I can not remember just
witch one but I would start at the ZAC web site) he talks about the
comparison of overlap into the wind Vs overlap with the wind. He
suggests using overlap into the wind on some of the 601 parts. He
explains that while this at first sounds like it would produce more
drag, that having a sharp edge (the edge of the metal) downwind
creates more drag from the turbulence than having a small high
pressure area with smooth flow in front of the upwind facing edge.
Mark
>--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Aaron" <agustafson@chartermi.net>
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>Doesn't putting the cowl under the skin go against aerodynamic principals?
>What reason would there be to do such. What am I missing
>Aaron
>----- Original Message -----
>From: <Schallgren@aol.com>
>To: <zenith-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Zenith-List: Zenith List: Fiberglass Cowling
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>> --> Zenith-List message posted by: Schallgren@aol.com
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>> List:
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>> Frank says: "One thing, do not fit the cowl under the fuse skin as it is
>> almost
> > impossible to remove it with the prop fitted."
>
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Mark Wood
Assistive Technology Consultant, VT I-Team
Center on Disability and Community Inclusion
University of Vermont
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| Subject: | Re: Zenith List: Fiberglass Cowling |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Dave Austin" <daveaustin2@sprint.ca>
Aaron,
Chris Heintz maintains that a more rearward skin SHOULD be on top of the
more foreward one. The theory is that if the foreward skin overlaps the
rearward one, the air gets separated and causes more turbulence and drag
than the other way. One other reason why he puts the cowl inside the fuse
skin. You should see the XL at Midland. I don't argue with Chris!
Dave Austin 601HDS - 912
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| Subject: | Zenith List: Fiberglass Cowling |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "HINDE,FRANK (HP-Corvallis,ex1)" <frank.hinde@hp.com>
All of this is very amusing to me....The 601 is about as aerodynamic as a
barn door!...Overlap vs underlap is only a question builders talk about
because they don't realise how draggy this thing will be when they fly it.
The first time you chop the power to idle and thing almost drops out of the
sky (compared to swifter designs or even a 152) you will realise that most
of the easy drag reduction conversations are irrelevant.
This is not necessarily a bad thing, the 601 is awesome at getting into
short stips over tall trees and with 100hp has tremendous ability to get out
of them too.
The thick wings give a LOT of baggage room.
How you fit the cowl is simply a case of what will fit and provide easy
access, forget about drag unless you are going to spend hundreds of hours
more to get another 10mph.
Frank
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| Subject: | Re: ch701 flt sim files |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Mike Fothergill <mfothergill@sympatico.ca>
There is a readme file on the site that details how to install the new airplanes
on FS.
Mike
UHS Spinners
Robert Hillebrand wrote:
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: Robert Hillebrand <masterbogun@yahoo.com>
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> Can anyone tell me hoe to get the fltsim 2000 files to work? I dloaded from zac
to my fltsim directory and then unzipped them but still have no show in the
select an aircraft. No ch701
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| Subject: | Re: ch701 flt sim files |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Gary Gower <ggower_99@yahoo.com>
You have to copy certain files in some folders of the Flight Simulator
Is not dificult, just follow the instructions (if everything fails,
read the manual :-)
Saludos
Gary Gower
--- Mike Fothergill <mfothergill@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: Mike Fothergill
> <mfothergill@sympatico.ca>
>
> There is a readme file on the site that details how to install the
> new airplanes on FS.
> Mike
> UHS Spinners
>
> Robert Hillebrand wrote:
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> > --> Zenith-List message posted by: Robert Hillebrand
> <masterbogun@yahoo.com>
> >
> > Can anyone tell me hoe to get the fltsim 2000 files to work? I
> dloaded from zac to my fltsim directory and then unzipped them but
> still have no show in the select an aircraft. No ch701
> >
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| Subject: | Re: XL wing attachment |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: bruce thomas <bvthomas@bigpond.com>
A simpler method is, if X along the leading edge is 3 meters and Y along the centre
of the fuselage is 4 meters, then Z should be 5 meters if everything is square.Known
as the 3 4 5 method for squareing up on a building site.
Bruce Thomas 701
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| Subject: | What Walmart tires? |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "HINDE,FRANK (HP-Corvallis,ex1)" <frank.hinde@hp.com>
Hi guys,
After 300 hours my main tires (or tyres as us English say) are getting bald.
I remember from while back that Walmart had the appropriate items.
Can someone remind me of the required size and load range?
Do Walmart do tubes as well or should I re-use after 31/2 years of flying?
Thanks
Frank
601HDS Stratus (now the valve guides should stay IN the heads) 290 hours
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| Subject: | Re: ZAC Pneumatic Rivet Puller |
05/15/2003 08:43:12 PM
--> Zenith-List message posted by: caspainhower@aep.com
Steve,
I also have a pnuematic puller from ZAC and it does the same thing.
I didn't remember if the one I used at the workshop did, but it was
probably noisy enough I wouldn't have noticed. The bad thing is always
having to unplug the rivet puller if I don't want the compressor cycling.
Craig
"Steve Dixon"
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Steve Dixon" <dix39@charter.net>
I recently bought one of the rivet pullers ZAC sells, and it continually
leaks a small amount of air through the system. It produces an audible
hiss as long as it is connected to an air line. In spite of this it seems
to work just fine. I need to determine if the hiss is normal in which case
I can learn to ignore it, or if I should contact ZAC and make arrangements
to return it before too much time goes by. I previously had one of the
Harbor Freight pullers which didn't leak at all. Has anyone else had this
experience with a ZAC puller?
Thanks,
Steve Dixon
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| Subject: | Re: What Walmart tires? |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Don Walker" <dwalk3dw@msn.com>
Hey Frank,
Walmart carries a Carlyle tire that is load range C (70 lbs. pressure)
for $8.95. Of course they are marked "Not for highway service" or NHS, so
you shouldn't land on the highway with them. Other than that they are a
bargain. I got my tubes at a tire store. Don W.
>From: "HINDE,FRANK (HP-Corvallis,ex1)" <frank.hinde@hp.com>
>Reply-To: zenith-list@matronics.com
>To: "'zenith-list@matronics.com'" <zenith-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Zenith-List: What Walmart tires?
>Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 15:56:43 -0700
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>--> Zenith-List message posted by: "HINDE,FRANK (HP-Corvallis,ex1)"
><frank.hinde@hp.com>
>
>
>Hi guys,
>
>After 300 hours my main tires (or tyres as us English say) are getting
>bald.
>I remember from while back that Walmart had the appropriate items.
>
>Can someone remind me of the required size and load range?
>
>Do Walmart do tubes as well or should I re-use after 31/2 years of flying?
>
>Thanks
>
>Frank
>601HDS Stratus (now the valve guides should stay IN the heads) 290 hours
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: ch701 flt sim files |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Robert Hillebrand <masterbogun@yahoo.com>
I have read everything and still can't get it to work
Gary Gower <ggower_99@yahoo.com> wrote:--> Zenith-List message posted by: Gary
Gower
You have to copy certain files in some folders of the Flight Simulator
Is not dificult, just follow the instructions (if everything fails,
read the manual :-)
Saludos
Gary Gower
--- Mike Fothergill wrote:
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: Mike Fothergill
>
>
> There is a readme file on the site that details how to install the
> new airplanes on FS.
> Mike
> UHS Spinners
>
> Robert Hillebrand wrote:
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> > --> Zenith-List message posted by: Robert Hillebrand
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> >
> > Can anyone tell me hoe to get the fltsim 2000 files to work? I
> dloaded from zac to my fltsim directory and then unzipped them but
> still have no show in the select an aircraft. No ch701
> >
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| Subject: | Re: ch701 flt sim files |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Robert Hillebrand <masterbogun@yahoo.com>
I have read everything and still can't get it to work
Gary Gower <ggower_99@yahoo.com> wrote: --> Zenith-List message posted by: Gary
Gower
You have to copy certain files in some folders of the Flight Simulator
Is not dificult, just follow the instructions (if everything fails,
read the manual :-)
Saludos
Gary Gower
--- Mike Fothergill wrote:
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: Mike Fothergill
>
>
> There is a readme file on the site that details how to install the
> new airplanes on FS.
> Mike
> UHS Spinners
>
> Robert Hillebrand wrote:
>
> > --> Zenith-List message posted by: Robert Hillebrand
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> >
> > Can anyone tell me hoe to get the fltsim 2000 files to work? I
> dloaded from zac to my fltsim directory and then unzipped them but
> still have no show in the select an aircraft. No ch701
> >
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> >
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| Subject: | Re: ch701 flt sim files |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Robert Hillebrand <masterbogun@yahoo.com>
I have done everything the book and it still doesn't work
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| Subject: | Re: What Walmart tires? |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Rick <rick.pitcher@verizon.net>
Don Walker wrote:
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> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Don Walker" <dwalk3dw@msn.com>
>
> Hey Frank,
> Walmart carries a Carlyle tire that is load range C (70 lbs. pressure)
> for $8.95. Of course they are marked "Not for highway service" or NHS, so
> you shouldn't land on the highway with them. Other than that they are a
> bargain. I got my tubes at a tire store. Don W.
Here's those Carlyle 480-8 wheelbarrow tires. The wheelbarrow tires are
about 3 or 4 pounds:
http://www.tiresunlimited.com/carlisle_wheelbarrow_and_smooth.htm
The smooth-tread whelbarrow tire looks pretty cool:
http://www.tiresunlimited.com/images/carlisle_specialty/smooth.jpg
Here's the Carlyle 480-8 trailer tire. These 6 or 8 pounds each:
http://www.tiresunlimited.com/carlisle_usa_trail.htm
I just bought some 480-8's from America's Tire Store for about $25 each.
These weigh in at about 6 pounds each. They ordered them out of the
Greenball catalog (any tire store should have that catalog)
http://www.greenball.com/tires/biastrailer.htm#
Rick P.
installing tires and wheels tomorrow.
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