---------------------------------------------------------- Zenith-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 05/16/03: 21 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 12:09 AM - Re: Zenith-List Digest: 16 Msgs - 05/15/03 (Mark Weiss) 2. 04:58 AM - Re: Zenith List: Fiberglass Cowling (Grant Corriveau) 3. 05:28 AM - Around the world.... this time? (Grant Corriveau) 4. 07:02 AM - Re: Zenith List: Fiberglass Cowling (Don Walker) 5. 08:11 AM - Home Made AOA (angle of attack) System (Beckman, Rick) 6. 08:32 AM - Re: Zenith List: Fiberglass Cowling (HINDE,FRANK (HP-Corvallis,ex1)) 7. 08:52 AM - Re: What Walmart tires? (HINDE,FRANK (HP-Corvallis,ex1)) 8. 09:36 AM - Re: Home Made AOA (angle of attack) System (Jim and Lucy) 9. 09:43 AM - Re: What Walmart tires? (Rick) 10. 10:14 AM - Re: What Walmart tires? (HINDE,FRANK (HP-Corvallis,ex1)) 11. 10:46 AM - inspection covers (LARRY BOHANNON) 12. 11:10 AM - Re: inspection covers (Scott Laughlin) 13. 01:25 PM - Re: Zenith List: Fiberglass Cowling (Dave Austin) 14. 02:44 PM - Re: Zenith List: Fiberglass Cowling (HINDE,FRANK (HP-Corvallis,ex1)) 15. 04:45 PM - Re: Zenith List: Fiberglass Cowling (ZodiacBuilder@aol.com) 16. 04:45 PM - Re: Zenith List: Fiberglass Cowling (Dave Austin) 17. 05:15 PM - 601HD real world cruise speed (Brian Caithcart) 18. 06:43 PM - Re: What Walmart tires? (Don Walker) 19. 06:50 PM - Re: 601HD real world cruise speed (The Meiste's) 20. 07:35 PM - Re: What Walmart tires? (Wayne McIntosh) 21. 10:58 PM - Re: 601HD real world cruise speed (Brian Caithcart) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 12:09:06 AM PST US From: Mark Weiss Subject: Zenith-List: RE: Zenith-List Digest: 16 Msgs - 05/15/03 --> Zenith-List message posted by: Mark Weiss Hi: You have sent Mark Weiss an email. He is on vacation and will get back to you when he returns. Thanks Mark Weiss This message was sent from my Palm wireless email account. ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 04:58:08 AM PST US Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Zenith List: Fiberglass Cowling From: Grant Corriveau --> Zenith-List message posted by: Grant Corriveau > --> Zenith-List message posted by: "HINDE,FRANK (HP-Corvallis,ex1)" > > > All of this is very amusing to me....The 601 is about as aerodynamic as a > barn door!...Overlap vs underlap is only a question builders talk about > because they don't realise how draggy this thing will be when they fly it. ... > you will realise that most > of the easy drag reduction conversations are irrelevant. I concur! Frank 'hits the nail on the head' with this comment. -- Grant Corriveau C-GHTF / HDS / CAM100 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 05:28:51 AM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: Around the world.... this time? From: Grant Corriveau --> Zenith-List message posted by: Grant Corriveau http://www.wingsforever.com/ang/index.htm Matevz Lenarcic is ready to try again -- this time with a big detour around RUSSIA and KANADA... ;-) -- Grant Corriveau C-GHTF / HDS / CAM100 do not archive ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 07:02:53 AM PST US From: "Don Walker" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Zenith List: Fiberglass Cowling --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Don Walker" Hey guys, there really is more than one nail to swing at here. While you have been pounding away (seemingly fruitlessly) at aerodynamics, it may be genarally true that the aerodynamically efficient is also the more aesthetically pleasing. Efforts at streamlining your bird may not produce great increase in speed, but the little it does give you will go along well with having a nicer looking airplane. Don W >From: Grant Corriveau >Reply-To: zenith-list@matronics.com >To: >Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Zenith List: Fiberglass Cowling >Date: Fri, 16 May 2003 07:53:39 -0400 > >--> Zenith-List message posted by: Grant Corriveau > > > --> Zenith-List message posted by: "HINDE,FRANK (HP-Corvallis,ex1)" > > > > > > All of this is very amusing to me....The 601 is about as aerodynamic as >a > > barn door!...Overlap vs underlap is only a question builders talk about > > because they don't realise how draggy this thing will be when they fly >it. >... > > you will realise that most > > of the easy drag reduction conversations are irrelevant. > >I concur! Frank 'hits the nail on the head' with this comment. > >-- >Grant Corriveau >C-GHTF / HDS / CAM100 > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 08:11:33 AM PST US From: "Beckman, Rick" Subject: Zenith-List: Home Made AOA (angle of attack) System --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Beckman, Rick" Hi, Y'all, I have a question. Recently, someone posted a page for a home made angle of attack meter. It showed a print of the bar that extends through the wing and the type and mfg. # for the gage. I copied the print of the aluminum bar and its dimensions, but this wonderful computer system periodically purges itself, and it did away with the instructions and gage numbers,etc. Might anyone have this and would you mind posting it again? You could do it offline, if you want. I just thought maybe there were some others out there in a similar boat..... Thanks Rick XL - 3300 Windmill ordered 729 MSL and sinking ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 08:32:38 AM PST US From: "HINDE,FRANK (HP-Corvallis,ex1)" Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Zenith List: Fiberglass Cowling --> Zenith-List message posted by: "HINDE,FRANK (HP-Corvallis,ex1)" Quite right Don, and I think most of us when we were builders were very interested in having things look right. Every now and then I take a look down my rivet lines and marvel at how straight they all are. Does anyone else notice....No they don't but it was important to me at the time to achieve a certain standard of workmanship. Sadly as the cowl is such a poor fit the thing really mars the quality of the whole job. One day I will "cut and shut" the cowl to make it fit but engine problems have taken the priority in the buget of time I have to give to the bird. Frank 601 HDS Stratus (at least the redrive still is!)...Now dreaming of a Cozy with a 2.5L Soob engine...:) Do not archive -----Original Message----- From: Don Walker [mailto:dwalk3dw@msn.com] Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Zenith List: Fiberglass Cowling --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Don Walker" Hey guys, there really is more than one nail to swing at here. While you have been pounding away (seemingly fruitlessly) at aerodynamics, it may be genarally true that the aerodynamically efficient is also the more aesthetically pleasing. Efforts at streamlining your bird may not produce great increase in speed, but the little it does give you will go along well with having a nicer looking airplane. Don W >From: Grant Corriveau >Reply-To: zenith-list@matronics.com >To: >Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Zenith List: Fiberglass Cowling >Date: Fri, 16 May 2003 07:53:39 -0400 > >--> Zenith-List message posted by: Grant Corriveau >--> > > > --> Zenith-List message posted by: "HINDE,FRANK (HP-Corvallis,ex1)" > > > > > > All of this is very amusing to me....The 601 is about as aerodynamic > > as >a > > barn door!...Overlap vs underlap is only a question builders talk > > about because they don't realise how draggy this thing will be when > > they fly >it. >... > > you will realise that most > > of the easy drag reduction conversations are irrelevant. > >I concur! Frank 'hits the nail on the head' with this comment. > >-- >Grant Corriveau >C-GHTF / HDS / CAM100 > > advertising on the Matronics Forums. Share: Share photos & files with other List members. ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 08:52:48 AM PST US From: "HINDE,FRANK (HP-Corvallis,ex1)" Subject: RE: Zenith-List: What Walmart tires? --> Zenith-List message posted by: "HINDE,FRANK (HP-Corvallis,ex1)" OK...so I'm sure this has been asked before...Wheelbarrow tires...are you nuts?.....:-) Now I got that out the way, I like the idea of the wheelbarrows light weight/low cost and the smooth tread looks way cool. So what does load range C mean?...Thinking about it each pair of tyres has to withstand potententially cack-handed landings at 1300lbs at about 80mph...so that's 650lbs each. How does this compare to the C range? Thanks Frank -----Original Message----- From: Rick [mailto:rick.pitcher@verizon.net] Subject: Re: Zenith-List: What Walmart tires? --> Zenith-List message posted by: Rick Don Walker wrote: > > --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Don Walker" > > Hey Frank, > Walmart carries a Carlyle tire that is load range C (70 lbs. > pressure) for $8.95. Of course they are marked "Not for highway > service" or NHS, so you shouldn't land on the highway with them. Other > than that they are a bargain. I got my tubes at a tire store. Don W. Here's those Carlyle 480-8 wheelbarrow tires. The wheelbarrow tires are about 3 or 4 pounds: http://www.tiresunlimited.com/carlisle_wheelbarrow_and_smooth.htm The smooth-tread whelbarrow tire looks pretty cool: http://www.tiresunlimited.com/images/carlisle_specialty/smooth.jpg Here's the Carlyle 480-8 trailer tire. These 6 or 8 pounds each: http://www.tiresunlimited.com/carlisle_usa_trail.htm I just bought some 480-8's from America's Tire Store for about $25 each. These weigh in at about 6 pounds each. They ordered them out of the Greenball catalog (any tire store should have that catalog) http://www.greenball.com/tires/biastrailer.htm# Rick P. installing tires and wheels tomorrow. advertising on the Matronics Forums. Share: Share photos & files with other List members. ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 09:36:08 AM PST US From: Jim and Lucy Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Home Made AOA (angle of attack) System --> Zenith-List message posted by: Jim and Lucy http://www.snyder.on.ca/pages/lri.htm ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 09:43:53 AM PST US From: Rick Subject: Re: Zenith-List: What Walmart tires? --> Zenith-List message posted by: Rick "HINDE,FRANK (HP-Corvallis,ex1)" wrote: > > --> Zenith-List message posted by: "HINDE,FRANK (HP-Corvallis,ex1)" > > OK...so I'm sure this has been asked before...Wheelbarrow tires...are you > nuts?.....:-) > > Now I got that out the way, I like the idea of the wheelbarrows light > weight/low cost and the smooth tread looks way cool. > > So what does load range C mean?...Thinking about it each pair of tyres has > to withstand potententially cack-handed landings at 1300lbs at about > 80mph...so that's 650lbs each. > > How does this compare to the C range? > > Thanks > > Frank I dunno Frank, I betcha I could get the whole 1300 pounds on ONE tire, the way I fly ; 0 But seriously... the C range is right around 650 - 700 pounds. I talked to one of the salesman at "tiresunlimited.com" he said the smoothie wheelbarrow tire actually had a HIGHER load rating than the C range trailer tires. I doubt that load rating and durability go hand-in-hand though. He did say that the wheelbarrow tire was a lot lighter tire with thinner sidewalls. http://www.tiresunlimited.com/images/carlisle_specialty/smooth.jpg I already bought a set of the trailer tires from the Greenball catalog, but I'm thinking of ordering one of these smoothie wheelbarrow tires from my local tire store at around 10 bucks just to see what it looks like. I'll let you know ... Rick P. ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 10:14:06 AM PST US From: "HINDE,FRANK (HP-Corvallis,ex1)" Subject: RE: Zenith-List: What Walmart tires? --> Zenith-List message posted by: "HINDE,FRANK (HP-Corvallis,ex1)" Actually Rick, you did get me thinking here... I'm rather partial to landing in out of the way places on surfaces other than tarmac...but only once on a rock runway......601 is so light it just kinda bounced over the rocks. It has always concerned me... Like what in the world do ya do if you bust a tire on one of these little trips 200 miles from civilisation? There is logic here that says as the wheelbarrow tires are so light one could carry a spare in the tail behind the seats when heading to one of these places...Assuming you don't wreck the airframe if it happened you would at least be able to get home. Frank -----Original Message----- From: Rick [mailto:rick.pitcher@verizon.net] Subject: Re: Zenith-List: What Walmart tires? --> Zenith-List message posted by: Rick "HINDE,FRANK (HP-Corvallis,ex1)" wrote: > > --> Zenith-List message posted by: "HINDE,FRANK (HP-Corvallis,ex1)" > --> > > OK...so I'm sure this has been asked before...Wheelbarrow tires...are > you > nuts?.....:-) > > Now I got that out the way, I like the idea of the wheelbarrows light > weight/low cost and the smooth tread looks way cool. > > So what does load range C mean?...Thinking about it each pair of tyres > has to withstand potententially cack-handed landings at 1300lbs at > about 80mph...so that's 650lbs each. > > How does this compare to the C range? > > Thanks > > Frank I dunno Frank, I betcha I could get the whole 1300 pounds on ONE tire, the way I fly ; 0 But seriously... the C range is right around 650 - 700 pounds. I talked to one of the salesman at "tiresunlimited.com" he said the smoothie wheelbarrow tire actually had a HIGHER load rating than the C range trailer tires. I doubt that load rating and durability go hand-in-hand though. He did say that the wheelbarrow tire was a lot lighter tire with thinner sidewalls. http://www.tiresunlimited.com/images/carlisle_specialty/smooth.jpg I already bought a set of the trailer tires from the Greenball catalog, but I'm thinking of ordering one of these smoothie wheelbarrow tires from my local tire store at around 10 bucks just to see what it looks like. I'll let you know ... Rick P. advertising on the Matronics Forums. Share: Share photos & files with other List members. ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 10:46:49 AM PST US From: "LARRY BOHANNON" Subject: Zenith-List: inspection covers --> Zenith-List message posted by: "LARRY BOHANNON" I'm installing a Lift Reserve Indicator in my 701. The bracket for the probe, which is like a pitot tube,comes mounted on a fairly thick inspection cover plate. I'm thinking it's probably too thick to mount directly to the thinner .016 skin so I probably need to cut it off and mount it on a piece of .016 skin "inspection cover" and use the thicker cutoff plate as a backing plate. Does anybody know where I can find on the internet some info on how to make proper inspection covers and backing plates, etc? Larry Bohannon 701 Winder, Georgia ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 11:10:27 AM PST US From: "Scott Laughlin" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: inspection covers --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Scott Laughlin" Larry: The neatest I've seen is on Larry McFarland's web site. Look at http://www.macsmachine.com/ and click on "Wings" then "Inspection Plates." I like what he did. Maybe he can give you more details, he has been a big help to me. How is it going, by the way. I was your neighbor in the rudder building class. Keep up the good work! Scott Laughlin 601XL Omaha, NE www.cooknwithgas.com ----Original Message Follows---- From: "LARRY BOHANNON" Subject: Zenith-List: inspection covers --> Zenith-List message posted by: "LARRY BOHANNON" I'm installing a Lift Reserve Indicator in my 701. The bracket for the probe, which is like a pitot tube,comes mounted on a fairly thick inspection cover plate. I'm thinking it's probably too thick to mount directly to the thinner .016 skin so I probably need to cut it off and mount it on a piece of .016 skin "inspection cover" and use the thicker cutoff plate as a backing plate. Does anybody know where I can find on the internet some info on how to make proper inspection covers and backing plates, etc? Larry Bohannon 701 Winder, Georgia ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 01:25:53 PM PST US From: "Dave Austin" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Zenith List: Fiberglass Cowling --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Dave Austin" Hey Guys, With all respect to the vast knowledge exhibited on this site on a regular basis..including me, (tongue firmly planted in cheek) I took a 95 mph cruise 601 to a 120 mph cruise rocket with some pretty simple changes and fairings. Barn door my xxx. Watch your language!! Dave Austin 601HDS - 912 ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 02:44:43 PM PST US From: "HINDE,FRANK (HP-Corvallis,ex1)" Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Zenith List: Fiberglass Cowling --> Zenith-List message posted by: "HINDE,FRANK (HP-Corvallis,ex1)" Not saying you CAN't make it faster but.... 120mph is still barn door teritory (and remember I DID say this plane does have other desirable features) in the world of fast glass and RV's...The RV 9 with a little more power is some 50mph faster than even this rocket ship. However Dave, I would love to have details of how you got to a 120mph cruise (and hopfully its not by burning 10 gallons an hour) with your simple fairings so the rest of us could do the same. Can you tell us what you did? Frank 601 HDS barn door -----Original Message----- From: Dave Austin [mailto:daveaustin2@sprint.ca] Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Zenith List: Fiberglass Cowling --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Dave Austin" Hey Guys, With all respect to the vast knowledge exhibited on this site on a regular basis..including me, (tongue firmly planted in cheek) I took a 95 mph cruise 601 to a 120 mph cruise rocket with some pretty simple changes and fairings. Barn door my xxx. Watch your language!! Dave Austin 601HDS - 912 advertising on the Matronics Forums. Share: Share photos & files with other List members. ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 04:45:22 PM PST US From: ZodiacBuilder@aol.com Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Zenith List: Fiberglass Cowling --> Zenith-List message posted by: ZodiacBuilder@aol.com In a message dated 5/15/2003 11:59:24 AM Eastern Standard Time, frank.hinde@hp.com writes: > All of this is very amusing to me....The 601 is about as aerodynamic as a > barn door!...Overlap vs underlap is only a question builders talk about > because they don't realise how draggy this thing will be when they fly it. > > The first time you chop the power to idle and thing almost drops out of the > sky (compared to swifter designs or even a 152) you will realise that most > of the easy drag reduction conversations are irrelevant. > > This is not necessarily a bad thing, the 601 is awesome at getting into > short stips over tall trees and with 100hp has tremendous ability to get out > of them too. > > The thick wings give a LOT of baggage room. > > How you fit the cowl is simply a case of what will fit and provide easy > access, forget about drag unless you are going to spend hundreds of hours > more to get another 10mph. > Oh so true.......LOL ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 04:45:22 PM PST US From: "Dave Austin" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Zenith List: Fiberglass Cowling --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Dave Austin" Ref request how to make a barn door into a rocket, and still stall at 50 mph.. Change from HD to HDS. Put rad and oil cooler inside the cowl, Fit home-made wheel spats (only as wide as the forks) to all three legs, home-made fairings for the main gear leg boxes, Spitfire-like wing root fairings that start at the spar and extend 18 inches back along the fuselage beyond the wing trailing edge, close off all holes in the cowl except the original front shark mouth and finally, fit an ARPLAST in-flight adjustable prop. Cruises at 120 mph on 4 gall/hr. Next mod was to be aileron and elevator gap strips (claimed to give 3 or 4 mph) but decided to build something else. What is the stall speed on those glass slippers? Dave Austin 601HDS - 912 ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 05:15:38 PM PST US From: "Brian Caithcart" Subject: Zenith-List: 601HD real world cruise speed --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Brian Caithcart" What is the REALWORLD cruise speed for a CH601HD. I've heard from many sources that the published 120mph cruise speed should be more like 100mph. I need to know for when I order my prop. What are the 601HD flyers on the list getting for cruise speed? Brian Caithcart Saskatoon, Sask. CH601HD/corvair ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 06:43:55 PM PST US From: "Don Walker" Subject: RE: Zenith-List: What Walmart tires? --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Don Walker" The original wheel barrow tires which came WITH the HDS kit from Zenith were Cheng Shen load range B, but 4 ply rated. The WalMart tires are slightly heavier. Don W HDS 280 hours. >From: "HINDE,FRANK (HP-Corvallis,ex1)" >Reply-To: zenith-list@matronics.com >To: "'zenith-list@matronics.com'" >Subject: RE: Zenith-List: What Walmart tires? >Date: Fri, 16 May 2003 10:13:49 -0700 > >--> Zenith-List message posted by: "HINDE,FRANK (HP-Corvallis,ex1)" > > >Actually Rick, you did get me thinking here... > >I'm rather partial to landing in out of the way places on surfaces other >than tarmac...but only once on a rock runway......601 is so light it just >kinda bounced over the rocks. > >It has always concerned me... Like what in the world do ya do if you bust a >tire on one of these little trips 200 miles from civilisation? > >There is logic here that says as the wheelbarrow tires are so light one >could carry a spare in the tail behind the seats when heading to one of >these places...Assuming you don't wreck the airframe if it happened you >would at least be able to get home. > >Frank > >-----Original Message----- >From: Rick [mailto:rick.pitcher@verizon.net] >To: zenith-list@matronics.com >Subject: Re: Zenith-List: What Walmart tires? > > >--> Zenith-List message posted by: Rick > > >"HINDE,FRANK (HP-Corvallis,ex1)" wrote: > > > > --> Zenith-List message posted by: "HINDE,FRANK (HP-Corvallis,ex1)" > > --> > > > > OK...so I'm sure this has been asked before...Wheelbarrow tires...are > > you > > nuts?.....:-) > > > > Now I got that out the way, I like the idea of the wheelbarrows light > > weight/low cost and the smooth tread looks way cool. > > > > So what does load range C mean?...Thinking about it each pair of tyres > > has to withstand potententially cack-handed landings at 1300lbs at > > about 80mph...so that's 650lbs each. > > > > How does this compare to the C range? > > > > Thanks > > > > Frank > >I dunno Frank, I betcha I could get the whole 1300 pounds on ONE tire, the >way I fly ; 0 > >But seriously... the C range is right around 650 - 700 pounds. I talked to >one of the salesman at "tiresunlimited.com" he said the smoothie >wheelbarrow >tire actually had a HIGHER load rating than the C range trailer tires. I >doubt that load rating and durability go hand-in-hand though. He did say >that the wheelbarrow tire was a lot lighter tire with thinner sidewalls. >http://www.tiresunlimited.com/images/carlisle_specialty/smooth.jpg > >I already bought a set of the trailer tires from the Greenball catalog, but >I'm thinking of ordering one of these smoothie wheelbarrow tires from my >local tire store at around 10 bucks just to see what it looks like. > >I'll let you know ... > >Rick P. > > >advertising on the Matronics Forums. >Share: Share photos & files with other List members. > > ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 06:50:54 PM PST US From: "The Meiste's" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: 601HD real world cruise speed --> Zenith-List message posted by: "The Meiste's" What are the 601HD flyers on the list > getting for cruise speed? > > Brian Caithcart > Saskatoon, Sask. > CH601HD/corvair Brian, I was getting 95 MPH with my Stratus powered HD at 4,000 RPM when my Warp 3 blade prop was set at 12 1/2 deg. I changed my prop to 15 1/2 deg & now see around 100 MPH crusing at 4,000 RPM (110 if I add another 300 or 400 RPM). Kelly Meiste 601 HD @ 46 hours ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 07:35:07 PM PST US From: "Wayne McIntosh" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: What Walmart tires? --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Wayne McIntosh" Before you guys all go out and buy wheelbarrow tires you should know this. I use 6" wheelbarrow tires on my ultralight. I have had a flat tire from running over a thorn. They do not last long if I land on paved runways and If I ever build a 601 I would not use them on it. I use them on my ultralight because everything on an ultralight must be light otherwise it would not fly. Some ultralight pilots use lawn tractor tires but they are not very well balanced and shimmy a lot. Lawn tractor tires weigh more than wheelbarrow tires. Wayne McIntosh Lafayette IN ----- Original Message ----- From: "HINDE,FRANK (HP-Corvallis,ex1)" Subject: RE: Zenith-List: What Walmart tires? > --> Zenith-List message posted by: "HINDE,FRANK (HP-Corvallis,ex1)" > > OK...so I'm sure this has been asked before...Wheelbarrow tires...are you > nuts?.....:-) > > Now I got that out the way, I like the idea of the wheelbarrows light > weight/low cost and the smooth tread looks way cool. > > So what does load range C mean?...Thinking about it each pair of tyres has > to withstand potententially cack-handed landings at 1300lbs at about > 80mph...so that's 650lbs each. > > How does this compare to the C range? > > Thanks > > Frank > > -----Original Message----- > From: Rick [mailto:rick.pitcher@verizon.net] > To: zenith-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Zenith-List: What Walmart tires? > > > --> Zenith-List message posted by: Rick > > > Don Walker wrote: > > > > --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Don Walker" > > > > Hey Frank, > > Walmart carries a Carlyle tire that is load range C (70 lbs. > > pressure) for $8.95. Of course they are marked "Not for highway > > service" or NHS, so you shouldn't land on the highway with them. Other > > than that they are a bargain. I got my tubes at a tire store. Don W. > > Here's those Carlyle 480-8 wheelbarrow tires. The wheelbarrow tires are > about 3 or 4 pounds: > http://www.tiresunlimited.com/carlisle_wheelbarrow_and_smooth.htm > The smooth-tread whelbarrow tire looks pretty cool: > http://www.tiresunlimited.com/images/carlisle_specialty/smooth.jpg > > > Here's the Carlyle 480-8 trailer tire. These 6 or 8 pounds each: > http://www.tiresunlimited.com/carlisle_usa_trail.htm > > I just bought some 480-8's from America's Tire Store for about $25 each. > These weigh in at about 6 pounds each. They ordered them out of the > Greenball catalog (any tire store should have that catalog) > http://www.greenball.com/tires/biastrailer.htm# > > Rick P. > installing tires and wheels tomorrow. > > > advertising on the Matronics Forums. > Share: Share photos & files with other List members. > > ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 10:58:05 PM PST US From: "Brian Caithcart" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: 601HD real world cruise speed --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Brian Caithcart" Kelly, What is your propeller RPM at 100 MPH and at 110 MPH? What blade length are you using? My engine will be direct drive and I plan on using a warp drive prop. Havn't decided on 2 or 3 blade yet. Thanks, Brian Caithcart Saskatoon, Sask. CH601HD/corvair >From: "The Meiste's" >Reply-To: zenith-list@matronics.com >To: >Subject: Re: Zenith-List: 601HD real world cruise speed >Date: Fri, 16 May 2003 20:50:58 -0500 > >--> Zenith-List message posted by: "The Meiste's" > > What are the 601HD flyers on the list > > getting for cruise speed? > > > > Brian Caithcart > > Saskatoon, Sask. > > CH601HD/corvair > > >Brian, >I was getting 95 MPH with my Stratus powered HD at 4,000 RPM when my Warp 3 >blade prop was set at 12 1/2 deg. >I changed my prop to 15 1/2 deg & now see around 100 MPH crusing at 4,000 >RPM (110 if I add another 300 or 400 RPM). > >Kelly Meiste >601 HD @ 46 hours > >