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1. 08:13 AM - Re: CH-801 Wing Dihedral (Gary Gower)
2. 10:50 AM - New homepage. (Johann G.)
3. 10:58 AM - Flanging lightening holes (Carlos Sa)
4. 11:11 AM - New homepage. (Johann G.)
5. 12:58 PM - 601XL Flap Position relative to rear rib query (ac6qj@earthlink.net)
6. 01:00 PM - Re: New homepage. (Gary Gower)
7. 01:36 PM - Experimenting with prop pitch..... (ZodiacBuilder@aol.com)
8. 02:29 PM - 701 doors ()
9. 04:31 PM - Re: 701 doors (Hal Rozema)
10. 05:07 PM - Re: Experimenting with prop pitch..... (Joseph Kintz)
11. 05:10 PM - Re: Experimenting with prop pitch..... (ZodiacBuilder@aol.com)
12. 05:34 PM - Re: 701 doors/windows (Fred Poor)
13. 05:40 PM - Re: 601XL Flap Position relative to rear rib query (Fred Poor)
14. 06:04 PM - Re: Experimenting with prop pitch. Not True (Jim Frisby)
15. 06:09 PM - Re: 601XL Flap Position page 6-W-00 (Fred Poor)
16. 06:46 PM - Re: Experimenting with prop pitch..... (Cy Galley)
17. 07:25 PM - Re: Experimenting with prop pitch..... (George Swinford)
18. 08:06 PM - Re: Experimenting with prop pitch..... (ZodiacBuilder@aol.com)
19. 08:16 PM - Re: Flanging lightening holes (Randy L. Thwing)
20. 08:30 PM - Zygon Tubing and Grommets... (Don Honabach)
21. 08:48 PM - Re: 601XL Flap Position page 6-W-00 (ac6qj@earthlink.net)
22. 08:52 PM - Re: TIG welding... (Cliffsuss@aol.com)
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| Subject: | Re: CH-801 Wing Dihedral |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Gary Gower <ggower_99@yahoo.com>
Rick,
In building our 701, a few times we have found little diferences in the
messuring process. What I will advise you to do is take both
messurements and find the diference betwen both of them, if minimal
(homebuilt VS space shuttle:-) use either one, if to much will be good
you tell us what was the right value.
Saludos
Gary Gower
Do not archive.
--- Rick Campbell <rcampbell@me.vccs.edu> wrote:
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: Rick Campbell
> <rcampbell@me.vccs.edu>
>
> I am trying to set the dihedral of the wings on the 801, the drawing
> indicates
> that a string is streached accross the wings following the main spar
> rivet
> line and the string should be 148mm above rib station 1 on each wing.
> Should
> the string be streached from the 3rd rivet at the end of the sparof
> each wing
> or should the string extend from the physical end of the wing tips?
>
> Thanks,
> Rick
>
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Johann G." <johann@gi.is>
Hello list members.
If anyone is interested, here is my new homepage, where my Kolb and Zenith
projects can be seen. It is the same link, but more to see.
http://www.gi.is/fis/
Hope it can help some builders with their project.
Best wishes,
Johann G.
Iceland.
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| Subject: | Flanging lightening holes |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Carlos Sa <carlosfsa@yahoo.com>
Hello, all
For almost a month, I have been working on different items, avoiding the logical
next step in the projet:
Flanging the lightening holes. That's supposed to be a piece of cake. Just make
two
pairs of dies, sandwiche your parts in them, put them on a press or large vise,
and
away you go. Easy as finding a 8' bending brake.
I had looked at alternatives - actually, one alternative: a handle with two roller
bearings.
See pictures here: http://members.tripod.com/zodiacbuilder/ribforming.htm
AS&S sells a similar tool, which I bought. It was a waste of money: instead of
actual roller bearings (steel), it has plastic ones, like on shower doors! When
I
saw it, I knew it wouldn't last long, so off I went, looking for real roller
bearings. When I found them, I installed them on the AS&S provided handle.
The tool works fairly well, but one needs a lot of practice working with it. Very
hard to make a prefect flange, so I started looking for dies.
Eventually I found somebody in this list that, a few years ago, offered his dies
to
anyone in need.
I borrowed these dies, made of steel. The larger one is for 115 mm holes, so I'll
have to enlarge the 110 mm holes, but that's ok.
Yesterday I did the centre and outboard spar webs, and it worked nicely.
I thought for a while about building a press, just like the one Michel T built,
but
I wasn't that crazy about the idea.
For one thing, why would I buy a jack when I have one in my car's trunk?
Not to mention I'm too lazy, and will always search the path of least effort.
:o)
An old idea would keep coming back. I always thought it a bit goofy, but some time
ago one of the listers sent me a photo of this unusual setup (was it Randy
Thwing??).
So, I tried it. I placed a 4x8 piece of plywood on the driveway and parked the
car
straddling it. I put the male die on the plywood, under the car, just behind the
front wheel. Placed the spar web on it, then the female die, then the car jack.
Using an adapter I made out of a piece of aluminum rod, I used my cordless drill
to
raise the can and then lower it. Move the spar web one hole over and repeat.
Piece of cake, it did not take long to do the three spar webs.
Only problem I had was with the weather: I had to stop and bring everything inside,
but at least the spar webs are done.
Now on to spar building
Carlos
CH601 HD, plans - tail feathers done
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Johann G." <johann-g@talnet.is>
Hello list members.
If anyone is interested, here is my new homepage, where my Kolb and Zenith
aircraft projects can be seen. It is the same link, but more to see.
http://www.gi.is/fis/
Hope it can help some builders with their project.
Best wishes,
Johann G.
Iceland.
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| Subject: | 601XL Flap Position relative to rear rib query |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: ac6qj@earthlink.net
Hello XL builders,
I'm about to attach the flap on the right wing assembly and have run
into a conflict between the drawings and the instructions. Drawing
6-W-8 seems to show the intersection of the flap and aileron to be 85
mm outboard of rear rib #7. Page 14 of the 6-W-8 wing assembly
instructions indicates that the flap position is "O/B end of the flap
is 80 mm outboard of RR#7".
Unless there is a 10mm gap between the flap and aileron centered on
85 mm outboard of RR#7, I cannot reconcile this. Since it is a
holiday, I thought I'd try the list. Has anyone else encountered
this?
--
Best Regards, Ray Montagne
Cupertino, CA
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Zenith Aircraft Zodiac CH-601-XL SN #601-4939, Jabiru 3300
Construction Log & Photos: <http://home.earthlink.net/~ac6qj/zodiac>
Build Status: Rudder completed
Elevator Completed
Stabilizer Completed
Flaps Completed
Ailerons Completed
Right Wing Under Construction - 50% completed
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| Subject: | Re: New homepage. |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Gary Gower <ggower_99@yahoo.com>
Hi Johann,
Thank for sharing your page, your 701 is going fast, enjoyed the great
views, sorry climate is not so friendly, here only a few days a year
are not weather flying OK.
Climate is flyable year round. Need to work to rise the family is what
keep us grounded most of the week :-( Here we fly WWP (Wife and
Work Permited) :-)
Saludos
Gary Gower
701 912S
Guadalajara, Jalisco, Mxico
Do not archive.
--- "Johann G." <johann@gi.is> wrote:
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Johann G." <johann@gi.is>
>
> Hello list members.
>
> If anyone is interested, here is my new homepage, where my Kolb and
> Zenith
> projects can be seen. It is the same link, but more to see.
> http://www.gi.is/fis/
> Hope it can help some builders with their project.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Johann G.
> Iceland.
>
>
>
>
>
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>
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| Subject: | Experimenting with prop pitch..... |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: ZodiacBuilder@aol.com
Well, after about a week of discussion, and suggestions from list members, I
went to the airport. I was determined to do a range of prop setting and fly
each setting.
Firstly, to insure that the motor wasn't sickly, I did a compression test.
78/80 on all cylinders. Can't ask for any better than that. Checked plugs for
fouling, and checked timing. Lastly, I check the idle mixture setting. All
was in order.... I don't have the equipment necessary to test trust. So I have
to assume that the motor is producing rate power.
Atmospheric conditions:
Elev 113
Temp 90F
Alt 30:00"
Wind Light & Variable
Density 1800
Airplane:
Certified gross 1300lbs
Test weight (today) 1090lbs
No flaps for take off. (They don't help any)
Warp Drive Prop, 68" Std., 3 blade.
Prop settings:
14 degrees:
Static rpm 1900
Runway acceleration Very Sluggish
Best climb speed 80mph
Climb rpm 2150
Vertical speed 300fpm
Cruise rpm @ 1000msl
(Full throttle) 2300
Cruise spd @ 1000msl 130mph (Indicated)
12 degrees:
Static rpm 2000
Runway acceleration Sluggish
Best climb speed 80mph
Climb rpm 2200
Vertical speed 500fpm
Cruise rpm @ 1000msl
(Full throttle) 2400
Cruise spd @ 1000msl 125mph (Indicated)
10 degrees:
Static rpm 2100
Runway acceleration Good
Best climb speed 80mph
Climb rpm 2300
Vertical speed 650fpm
Cruise rpm @ 1000msl
(Full throttle) 2550
Cruise spd @ 1000msl 115mph (Indicated)
8 Degrees:
Static rpm 2250
Runway acceleration Very Strong
Best climb speed 80mph
Climb rpm 2450
Vertical speed 500fpm
Cruise rpm @ 1000msl 2600
Cruise spd @ 1000msl 100mph (Indicated)
The best prop setting seems to be 10deg. Still it isn't all that impressive,
but I did gain 15mph. So it was somewhat of a successful experiment.
My thoughts are that the prop may be too small. I would like to see a 70"
prop on it, but I would lose my ground clearance. As it is now I just have 8"
of clearance. You have to have 7" according to the standard practices manual.
The reason the airplane sits so low is that I have Cleavlands 5.00 x 5 wheel
and brakes all the way around.
Any more comments or ideas would be greatly appreciated.
John W. Tarabocchia
http://www.hometown.aol.com/zodiacbuilder/
N6042T 100hrs. flown
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: <jbirgiolas@smiletoronto.com>
I am interested in altering the gull wing doors on my 701. The previous design
had the doors swing forward on two hinges with the door lock in the lower rear
corner. The doors I have built are of the present design with the door lock
on the foreward lower corner and the doors hinging ala gullwing. I plan to build
a second pilot door with the upper half hinging upward, and the lower half
hinging forward ala old design. This way the upper half should be able to stay
open in flight if so desired. If it works the passenger gets one too.
I could use some input from the group re pros and cons of this arrangement and
if someone could email me the page in the old plans so I can fabricate the old
hinge design. I would be happy to share my progress with you on the photo share
if there aren't too many obstacles. Or perhaps this is a bad idea all together,
Thanks in advance. John Birgiolas (preparing to start instrument panel
and wiring)
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: Hal Rozema <hartist1@cox.net>
Were you aware that the 701 can be flown with the gull wing doors open (ie latched
under the wing) or off.
jbirgiolas@smiletoronto.com wrote:
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: <jbirgiolas@smiletoronto.com>
>
> I am interested in altering the gull wing doors on my 701. The previous design
had the doors swing forward on two hinges with the door lock in the lower rear
corner. The doors I have built are of the present design with the door lock
on the foreward lower corner and the doors hinging ala gullwing. I plan to
build a second pilot door with the upper half hinging upward, and the lower half
hinging forward ala old design. This way the upper half should be able to
stay open in flight if so desired. If it works the passenger gets one too.
>
> I could use some input from the group re pros and cons of this arrangement and
if someone could email me the page in the old plans so I can fabricate the
old hinge design. I would be happy to share my progress with you on the photo
share if there aren't too many obstacles. Or perhaps this is a bad idea all
together, Thanks in advance. John Birgiolas (preparing to start instrument
panel and wiring)
>
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| Subject: | Re: Experimenting with prop pitch..... |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Joseph Kintz <kintzjd@rocketmail.com>
Please excuse me if this is totally ridiculous but, could your prop be on
backwards?
Joe
--- ZodiacBuilder@aol.com wrote:
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: ZodiacBuilder@aol.com
>
> Well, after about a week of discussion, and suggestions from list members, I
> went to the airport. I was determined to do a range of prop setting and fly
> each setting.
>
> Firstly, to insure that the motor wasn't sickly, I did a compression test.
> 78/80 on all cylinders. Can't ask for any better than that. Checked plugs
> for
> fouling, and checked timing. Lastly, I check the idle mixture setting. All
> was in order.... I don't have the equipment necessary to test trust. So I
> have
> to assume that the motor is producing rate power.
>
> Atmospheric conditions:
> Elev 113
> Temp 90F
> Alt 30:00"
> Wind Light & Variable
> Density 1800
>
> Airplane:
> Certified gross 1300lbs
> Test weight (today) 1090lbs
> No flaps for take off. (They don't help any)
> Warp Drive Prop, 68" Std., 3 blade.
>
> Prop settings:
>
> 14 degrees:
> Static rpm 1900
> Runway acceleration Very Sluggish
> Best climb speed 80mph
> Climb rpm 2150
> Vertical speed 300fpm
> Cruise rpm @ 1000msl
> (Full throttle) 2300
> Cruise spd @ 1000msl 130mph (Indicated)
>
> 12 degrees:
> Static rpm 2000
> Runway acceleration Sluggish
> Best climb speed 80mph
> Climb rpm 2200
> Vertical speed 500fpm
> Cruise rpm @ 1000msl
> (Full throttle) 2400
> Cruise spd @ 1000msl 125mph (Indicated)
>
> 10 degrees:
> Static rpm 2100
> Runway acceleration Good
> Best climb speed 80mph
> Climb rpm 2300
> Vertical speed 650fpm
> Cruise rpm @ 1000msl
> (Full throttle) 2550
> Cruise spd @ 1000msl 115mph (Indicated)
>
> 8 Degrees:
> Static rpm 2250
> Runway acceleration Very Strong
> Best climb speed 80mph
> Climb rpm 2450
> Vertical speed 500fpm
> Cruise rpm @ 1000msl 2600
> Cruise spd @ 1000msl 100mph (Indicated)
>
> The best prop setting seems to be 10deg. Still it isn't all that impressive,
>
> but I did gain 15mph. So it was somewhat of a successful experiment.
>
> My thoughts are that the prop may be too small. I would like to see a 70"
> prop on it, but I would lose my ground clearance. As it is now I just have
> 8"
> of clearance. You have to have 7" according to the standard practices
> manual.
> The reason the airplane sits so low is that I have Cleavlands 5.00 x 5 wheel
> and brakes all the way around.
>
> Any more comments or ideas would be greatly appreciated.
>
>
> John W. Tarabocchia
> http://www.hometown.aol.com/zodiacbuilder/
>
> N6042T 100hrs. flown
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Experimenting with prop pitch..... |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: ZodiacBuilder@aol.com
In a message dated 5/26/2003 8:08:05 PM Eastern Standard Time,
kintzjd@rocketmail.com writes:
> Please excuse me if this is totally ridiculous but, could your prop be on
> backwards?
>
>
Good thought, but the thrust would be in the forward direction. (Reverse
thrust)
John W. Tarabocchia
http://www.hometown.aol.com/zodiacbuilder/
N6042T 100hrs. flown
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| Subject: | Re: 701 doors/windows |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Fred Poor <fredspoor2002@yahoo.com>
Also, Chris had plans available to install hinged
windows in the forward (older style) swinging
doors---- I covered my 701 doors entirely with clear
lexan with a swing open window----- what great
visibility, with the security of having the doors
closed and great ventalation with the windows open, in
flight and on the ground-- "fred" do not archive
--- Hal Rozema <hartist1@cox.net> wrote:
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: Hal Rozema
> <hartist1@cox.net>
>
> Were you aware that the 701 can be flown with the
> gull wing doors open (ie latched under the wing) or
> off.
>
> jbirgiolas@smiletoronto.com wrote:
>
> > --> Zenith-List message posted by:
> <jbirgiolas@smiletoronto.com>
> >
> > I am interested in altering the gull wing doors on
> my 701. The previous design had the doors swing
> forward on two hinges with the door lock in the
> lower rear corner. The doors I have built are of
> the present design with the door lock on the
> foreward lower corner and the doors hinging ala
> gullwing. I plan to build a second pilot door with
> the upper half hinging upward, and the lower half
> hinging forward ala old design. This way the upper
> half should be able to stay open in flight if so
> desired. If it works the passenger gets one too.
> >
> > I could use some input from the group re pros and
> cons of this arrangement and if someone could email
> me the page in the old plans so I can fabricate the
> old hinge design. I would be happy to share my
> progress with you on the photo share if there aren't
> too many obstacles. Or perhaps this is a bad idea
> all together, Thanks in advance. John Birgiolas
> (preparing to start instrument panel and wiring)
> >
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: 601XL Flap Position relative to rear rib query |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Fred Poor <fredspoor2002@yahoo.com>
you should have a 5mm gap between the aileron and flap
"fred" do not archive
--- ac6qj@earthlink.net wrote:
> --> Zenith-List message posted by:
> ac6qj@earthlink.net
>
> Hello XL builders,
>
> I'm about to attach the flap on the right wing
> assembly and have run
> into a conflict between the drawings and the
> instructions. Drawing
> 6-W-8 seems to show the intersection of the flap and
> aileron to be 85
> mm outboard of rear rib #7. Page 14 of the 6-W-8
> wing assembly
> instructions indicates that the flap position is
> "O/B end of the flap
> is 80 mm outboard of RR#7".
>
> Unless there is a 10mm gap between the flap and
> aileron centered on
> 85 mm outboard of RR#7, I cannot reconcile this.
> Since it is a
> holiday, I thought I'd try the list. Has anyone
> else encountered
> this?
> --
>
> Best Regards, Ray Montagne
> Cupertino, CA
>
>
================================================================================
>
> Zenith Aircraft Zodiac CH-601-XL SN #601-4939,
> Jabiru 3300
> Construction Log & Photos:
> <http://home.earthlink.net/~ac6qj/zodiac>
> Build Status: Rudder completed
> Elevator Completed
> Stabilizer Completed
> Flaps Completed
> Ailerons Completed
> Right Wing Under Construction - 50%
> completed
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Experimenting with prop pitch. Not True |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Jim Frisby" <marslander@hotmail.com>
not true
>Good thought, but the thrust would be in the forward direction. (Reverse
>thrust)
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| Subject: | Re: 601XL Flap Position page 6-W-00 |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Fred Poor <fredspoor2002@yahoo.com>
wanted to add----page 6-W-00 shows end of aileron
85mm outbd of rib #7 (lower right corner) , also
"inside edge of aileron horn is 5mm to the center of 1
1/2 inch hole, also shows flap is 5mm to the inbd
side of aileron (lower, center of page---- also
construction manual-- "wing assy" item 71 says outbd
end of flap is 80 mm outbd of rib #7--- both plans
and manual agree-- "fred" do not archive
--- Fred Poor <fredspoor2002@yahoo.com> wrote:
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: Fred Poor
> <fredspoor2002@yahoo.com>
>
> you should have a 5mm gap between the aileron and
> flap
> "fred" do not archive
> --- ac6qj@earthlink.net wrote:
> > --> Zenith-List message posted by:
> > ac6qj@earthlink.net
> >
> > Hello XL builders,
> >
> > I'm about to attach the flap on the right wing
> > assembly and have run
> > into a conflict between the drawings and the
> > instructions. Drawing
> > 6-W-8 seems to show the intersection of the flap
> and
> > aileron to be 85
> > mm outboard of rear rib #7. Page 14 of the 6-W-8
> > wing assembly
> > instructions indicates that the flap position is
> > "O/B end of the flap
> > is 80 mm outboard of RR#7".
> >
> > Unless there is a 10mm gap between the flap and
> > aileron centered on
> > 85 mm outboard of RR#7, I cannot reconcile this.
> > Since it is a
> > holiday, I thought I'd try the list. Has anyone
> > else encountered
> > this?
> > --
> >
> > Best Regards, Ray Montagne
> > Cupertino, CA
> >
> >
>
================================================================================
> >
> > Zenith Aircraft Zodiac CH-601-XL SN #601-4939,
> > Jabiru 3300
> > Construction Log & Photos:
> > <http://home.earthlink.net/~ac6qj/zodiac>
> > Build Status: Rudder completed
> > Elevator Completed
> > Stabilizer Completed
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> > Ailerons Completed
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| Subject: | Re: Experimenting with prop pitch..... |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Cy Galley" <cgalley@qcbc.org>
Nope! But the sharp tailing edge would now be the in-efficient leading edge.
Airfoils don't word very well when run backwards. Still it would be a
positive pitch.
Cy Galley - Bellanca Champion Club
Newsletter Editor & EAA TC
www.bellanca-championclub.com
Actively supporting Aeroncas
----- Original Message -----
From: <ZodiacBuilder@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Experimenting with prop pitch.....
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: ZodiacBuilder@aol.com
>
> In a message dated 5/26/2003 8:08:05 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> kintzjd@rocketmail.com writes:
>
>
> > Please excuse me if this is totally ridiculous but, could your prop be
on
> > backwards?
> >
> >
>
> Good thought, but the thrust would be in the forward direction. (Reverse
> thrust)
> John W. Tarabocchia
> http://www.hometown.aol.com/zodiacbuilder/
>
> N6042T 100hrs. flown
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Experimenting with prop pitch..... |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "George Swinford" <grs-pms@attbi.com>
John:
With the prop on backwards the thrust is still in the same direction but the
prop is much less efficient. The analogy is a wing flying inverted. We used
to install the prop backwards on u-control models to slow them down for new
flyers.
George Do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: <ZodiacBuilder@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Experimenting with prop pitch.....
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: ZodiacBuilder@aol.com
>
> In a message dated 5/26/2003 8:08:05 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> kintzjd@rocketmail.com writes:
>
>
> > Please excuse me if this is totally ridiculous but, could your prop be
on
> > backwards?
> >
> >
>
> Good thought, but the thrust would be in the forward direction. (Reverse
> thrust)
> John W. Tarabocchia
> http://www.hometown.aol.com/zodiacbuilder/
>
> N6042T 100hrs. flown
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Experimenting with prop pitch..... |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: ZodiacBuilder@aol.com
In a message dated 5/26/2003 10:25:51 PM Eastern Standard Time,
grs-pms@attbi.com writes:
> With the prop on backwards the thrust is still in the same direction but the
> prop is much less efficient. The analogy is a wing flying inverted. We used
> to install the prop backwards on u-control models to slow them down for new
> flyers.
>
I thought the original question was in the line of the pitch being backwards.
I'm positive that the prop is properly installed.
John W. Tarabocchia
http://www.hometown.aol.com/zodiacbuilder/
N6042T 100hrs. flown
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| Subject: | Re: Flanging lightening holes |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Randy L. Thwing" <n4546v@mindspring.com>
Hey Carlos:
It's not a bit goofy, it's a LOT GOOFY and old hat for veteran listers,
but if anyone would like to see the pics of my "gravity operated lightening
hole press" it works great and I would be glad to send them "off list" to
anyone who requests them.
Regards,
Randy L. Thwing, 701 plans, Las Vegas, NV Do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos Sa <carlosfsa@yahoo.com>
Subject: Zenith-List: Flanging lightening holes
> For almost a month, I have been working on different items, avoiding the
logical
> next step in the projet:
> Flanging the lightening holes. That's supposed to be a piece of cake. Just
make two
> pairs of dies, sandwiche your parts in them, put them on a press or large
vise, and
> away you go. Easy as finding a 8' bending brake.
> An old idea would keep coming back. I always thought it a bit goofy, but
some time
> ago one of the listers sent me a photo of this unusual setup (was it Randy
> Thwing??).
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| Subject: | Zygon Tubing and Grommets... |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Don Honabach" <don@pcperfect.com>
If anyone is or has used the rubber grommets from Aircraft Spruce to aid
in running your Tygon based tubing for your static/pitot lines, most
likely you'll want to replace this right away. I ran mine in my wing
with these grommets and the rubber grommets reacted with the Tygon
tubing and now the tubing is destoryed in any area where the tubing came
into contact with the grommet :(
For what it's worth, I've since switch to the plastic grommets and
hoping these won't react with the tubing.
Regards,
Don Honabach
Tempe, AZ - 601HDS
P.S. Totally pumped - ran my 99% of my plumbing and wiring in the plane
today. Making great progress and getting ready to wire the panel.
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| Subject: | Re: 601XL Flap Position page 6-W-00 |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: ac6qj@earthlink.net
>--> Zenith-List message posted by: Fred Poor <fredspoor2002@yahoo.com>
>
> wanted to add----page 6-W-00 shows end of aileron
>85mm outbd of rib #7 (lower right corner) , also
>"inside edge of aileron horn is 5mm to the center of 1
>1/2 inch hole, also shows flap is 5mm to the inbd
>side of aileron (lower, center of page---- also
>construction manual-- "wing assy" item 71 says outbd
>end of flap is 80 mm outbd of rib #7--- both plans
>and manual agree-- "fred" do not archive
>
>
>--- Fred Poor <fredspoor2002@yahoo.com> wrote:
Thanks Fred!
DO NOT ARCHIVE
--
Best Regards, Ray Montagne
Cupertino, CA
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Zenith Aircraft Zodiac CH-601-XL SN #601-4939, Jabiru 3300
Construction Log & Photos: <http://home.earthlink.net/~ac6qj/zodiac>
Build Status: Rudder completed
Elevator Completed
Stabilizer Completed
Flaps Completed
Ailerons Completed
Right Wing Under Construction - 50% completed
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| Subject: | Re: TIG welding... |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Cliffsuss@aol.com
In a message dated 5/25/2003 9:25:43 PM Eastern Standard Time, masterbogun@yahoo.com
writes:
> I just seen your pictures. They don't look too bad for
> starters
Jari,
I agree with Robert, no bad for starters. Get the metal as clean as possible and
keep practicing. One point that hasn't been mention so far, that I would add,
is that you need a good "ball" point at the end of the tungsten. Easiest way
to do that is put a copper penny on the welding table, switch your polarity of
the machine to DC and strike a short arc to the penny. It will put a perfect
ball on the tip of the tungsten. Don't forget to switch back to AC before you
weld!!
Cliff
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