Today's Message Index:
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1. 04:14 AM - Wanted - Prop for 801 (Rick Campbell)
2. 06:48 AM - 701 doors (Ronnie Koonce)
3. 07:37 AM - Building Question (Bill Richter)
4. 08:49 AM - Re: Building Question (George Swinford)
5. 09:28 AM - Jabiru engine info (Jeff Small)
6. 09:34 AM - Re: 701 doors (Elwood140@aol.com)
7. 10:19 AM - Re: Building Question (Bryan Martin)
8. 10:46 AM - Re: Building Question (Don Honabach)
9. 03:16 PM - Recall on some 601 Elevator Hinge Pins (W.R. \)
10. 07:04 PM - strobe light power supply access (Fred Poor)
11. 11:28 PM - Re: strobe light power supply access (Don Honabach)
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| Subject: | Wanted - Prop for 801 |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Rick Campbell <rcampbell@me.vccs.edu>
Do any of you good folks have a McCauly IC172EM 7652 prop lying around
collecting dust that you would want to part with?
Rick
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Ronnie Koonce" <rlk@granderiver.net>
It is possible to fly with the gull wing doorsopen with no ill effects? It doesn't
destroy the doors or spoil the airflow?
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| Subject: | Building Question |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Bill Richter" <wrichter@aristotle.net>
Hi List, has anyone information concerning the possibility of not riveting the
fiberglass wing tip on the HDS models, but instead using screws in order to have
access to the strobe power supply boxes?
I am interested in opinions with regards to this subject. Especially what type
of nut could be used to attach to the fiberglass tip. Surely you would not want
to use a U-type speed nut because it would create a small bumps under the
skin. And if you use an Anchor nut you would still have small bumps under the
skin with the attaching plate. The nut would have to be something that is permanently
positioned on the backside of the fiberglass tip.
Looking forward to your suggestions.
Bill 40+% HDS
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| Subject: | Re: Building Question |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "George Swinford" <grs-pms@attbi.com>
Bill:
Why not an anchor nut on the underside of the fiberglass tip? Countersink
the #3 rivets into the fiberglass and the tip skin will remain smooth.
George
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill Richter" <wrichter@aristotle.net>
Subject: Zenith-List: Building Question
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Bill Richter" <wrichter@aristotle.net>
>
> Hi List, has anyone information concerning the possibility of not riveting
the fiberglass wing tip on the HDS models, but instead using screws in order
to have access to the strobe power supply boxes?
> I am interested in opinions with regards to this subject. Especially what
type of nut could be used to attach to the fiberglass tip. Surely you would
not want to use a U-type speed nut because it would create a small bumps
under the skin. And if you use an Anchor nut you would still have small
bumps under the skin with the attaching plate. The nut would have to be
something that is permanently positioned on the backside of the fiberglass
tip.
> Looking forward to your suggestions.
>
> Bill 40+% HDS
>
> Do not Archive
>
>
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| Subject: | Jabiru engine info |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Jeff Small" <zodiacjeff@msn.com>
For present and possible Jabiru engine enthusiasts:
The info is now available on the home factory website; here's the scoop from Leo:
++ The following was excerpted from Jabiru factory April
2003 newsletter.
Leo
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++ For those of you who don't know, instead of posting
out the Newsletter to hundreds of people every few
months we have decided to post it
on our website its easy to view and you can print it
from the website [www.jabiru.net.au then click on Jaba
Chat].
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: Elwood140@aol.com
In a message dated 5/31/2003 8:48:39 AM Central Daylight Time,
rlk@granderiver.net writes:
> It is possible to fly with the gull wing doorsopen with no ill effects? It
> doesn't destroy the doors or spoil the airflow?
>
Ronnie, I was advised by Nick Heintz that it is not advisable to fly the
airplane with the doors open. Doors removed, ok.
Larry Wood
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| Subject: | Re: Building Question |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Bryan Martin <bryanmmartin@comcast.net>
on 5/31/03 10:33 AM, Bill Richter at wrichter@aristotle.net wrote:
> Hi List, has anyone information concerning the possibility of not riveting the
> fiberglass wing tip on the HDS models, but instead using screws in order to
> have access to the strobe power supply boxes?
Nutserts or rivnuts in the fiberglass?
--
Bryan Martin
N61BM, CH 601 XL, Stratus Subaru.
Airframe construction complete.
Working on instrument panel, electrical and interior.
do not archive.
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| Subject: | Building Question |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Don Honabach" <don@pcperfect.com>
Bill,
There are nut plates (Click Bond Fasteners - pg. 103 on 2003 ACS
catalog) that use glue to attach instead of rivets and were designed for
exactly what you want to do. A bit expensive though - around $5 a piece.
With that said, I would put the strobe power box at the center/outboard
wing junction point instead for easier maintenance/inspection and the
lights can be changed by unscrewing the screw that holds the
strobe/light combo together.
Regards,
Don Honabach
Tempe, AZ - 601HDS
-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Richter [mailto:wrichter@aristotle.net]
Subject: Zenith-List: Building Question
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Bill Richter"
--> <wrichter@aristotle.net>
Hi List, has anyone information concerning the possibility of not
riveting the fiberglass wing tip on the HDS models, but instead using
screws in order to have access to the strobe power supply boxes? I am
interested in opinions with regards to this subject. Especially what
type of nut could be used to attach to the fiberglass tip. Surely you
would not want to use a U-type speed nut because it would create a small
bumps under the skin. And if you use an Anchor nut you would still have
small bumps under the skin with the attaching plate. The nut would have
to be something that is permanently positioned on the backside of the
fiberglass tip. Looking forward to your suggestions.
Bill 40+% HDS
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| Subject: | Recall on some 601 Elevator Hinge Pins |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "W.R. \"Gig\" Giacona" <wr.giacona@cox-internet.com>
I just noticed this in the builders section at zenithair.com. Seems a vendor
substituted aluminum pins for the stainless steel ones that are spec.
Here's a quote:
It was recently discovered that several batches of piano hinges (for the 6
ft. elevator hinge
6T2-5) were supplied with aluminum hinge pins, despite being labeled
stainless steel (s/s).
The elevator hinge requires that a stainless steel pin be used, and the
supplier has agreed
to drop ship replacement stainless steel pins to all builders who took
delivery of a kit (with
the elevator) between January 2002 and April 2003.
/End Quote/
Here's the link to the notice
http://www.zenithair.com/zodiac/data/601-hinge-pin.pdf
This link is a PDF document thatb shows how to test to see which you have
and a form to get a replacement.
--
Gig Giacona
Visit my 601XL site at:
www.peoamerica.net/N601WR
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| Subject: | strobe light power supply access |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Fred Poor <fredspoor2002@yahoo.com>
I am doing the following on my XL-- mounting the power
supply on the forward side of the outbd spar tip
assy-- access would be through the fiberglass wing
tip EXCEPT I'm building mine out of aluminum. Puting
in an oval access panel in "what would be the
fiberglass wingtip"--- the reson for it being oval, is
so I can mount the nutplates ON THE PANEL, install the
panel UNDER the skin and secure with screws----- my
reason for this approach is: " I can bring the panel
home to change nutplates, if one should go
bad"------------ I'd never use the "glue on type"---
"fred" do not archive
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| Subject: | strobe light power supply access |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Don Honabach" <don@pcperfect.com>
Fred,
>> I'd never use the "glue on type"---
Just keep in mind that many planes flying today are held together with
'glue' :)
Don
-----Original Message-----
From: Fred Poor [mailto:fredspoor2002@yahoo.com]
Subject: Zenith-List: strobe light power supply access
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Fred Poor <fredspoor2002@yahoo.com>
I am doing the following on my XL-- mounting the power
supply on the forward side of the outbd spar tip
assy-- access would be through the fiberglass wing
tip EXCEPT I'm building mine out of aluminum. Puting
in an oval access panel in "what would be the
fiberglass wingtip"--- the reson for it being oval, is
so I can mount the nutplates ON THE PANEL, install the
panel UNDER the skin and secure with screws----- my
reason for this approach is: " I can bring the panel
home to change nutplates, if one should go
bad"------------ I'd never use the "glue on type"---
"fred" do not archive
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