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1. 06:46 AM - Rubber Canopy Trim (Larry McFarland)
2. 09:05 AM - How flat is flat (Joe Kerr)
3. 09:16 AM - Re: How flat is flat (owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com)
4. 10:26 AM - VSI Discrepancy (Schallgren@aol.com)
5. 11:50 AM - Re: How flat is flat (Pwalsh4539@aol.com)
6. 03:09 PM - Hog-Air (Don Walker)
7. 04:21 PM - Re: Hog-Air (ZSMITH3rd@aol.com)
8. 05:08 PM - Re: Hog-Air (Philip Polstra)
9. 05:18 PM - Re: VSI Discrepancy (Grant Corriveau)
10. 07:36 PM - Rudder cable fairing in the 601 rear fuselage (Jeff & Marcia Davidson)
11. 09:41 PM - [ Perry Morrison ] : New Email List Photo Share Available! (Email List Photo Shares)
12. 10:38 PM - Re: Rudder cable fairing in the 601 rear fuselage (Bryan Martin)
13. 11:04 PM - Hog Air e-mail (Brett Ray)
14. 11:28 PM - Hog Air e-mail (Brett Ray)
15. 11:37 PM - Hog Air e-mail (Brett Ray)
16. 11:48 PM - Hog Air e-mail (Brett Ray)
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| Subject: | Rubber Canopy Trim |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Larry McFarland" <larrymc@qconline.com>
601 Builders,
The ZAC canopy trim rubber is molded with the sealing flange
angled a bit up from the slot and this works fine for the front
edge of the canopy because it is a relatively sharp angle.
Have any of you found that when the flange is turned down on
the rear edge it seals the sides better? It doesn't seem to
look any different, but the trim closes on the sides better with this angle
turned inward. Is there a problem with this in closing?
I havn't glued them yet.
Larry McFarland - 601hds
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| Subject: | How flat is flat |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Joe Kerr" <jkerr@pcweb.net>
Greeting all-
How flat is your flat workbench? Right now I have my 4' x 12' table +1mm / -0mm
at various points measured with a taught string & square and was wondering if
that is flat compared to what the rest of you have, or do I have more work to
do? Thanks.
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| Subject: | Re: How flat is flat |
--> Zenith-List message posted by:
In a message dated 6/1/03 9:05:37 AM US Mountain Standard Time,
jkerr@pcweb.net writes:
> ? Right now I have my 4' x 12' table +1mm / -0mm at various points
> measured with a taught string &square and was wondering if that is flat compared
to
> what the rest of you have
I can;t remember which builder said it now but "We're not building the Space
Shuttle here" said it best. +/- 1mm should work well for you. However I know
a builder whose bench is flat, zero tolerance, without getting ridiculous and
using laser tools to determine flatness. For him, that is the acceptable
standrard. For you, you have to decide what you are comfortable with and of
course what is safe.
My table was not perfectly flat but certainly within a degree or two. I have
no visible twist in any control surfaces and everything appears to have come
together nicely. However, I haven't flown yet so I don't know if there are
any "hidden" issues that I can't see with the naked eye or have been able to
measure.
Good luck
Steve F.
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: Schallgren@aol.com
List:
I had been meaning to report the low readings on my VSI. Now Grant says:
Have you calibrated/checked the vsi?=A0 I did have a leak in my vsi glass/face
at one point that was causing it to underread by about 300 fpm...
I was getting to altitude quite rapidly but the vertical speeds shown were
anemic. After getting my Garmin GPS 196 I found out that it reported much
higher vertical speeds and in line with what I was observing in altitude changes.
So, I must have a leak in my VSI also.
Stan
601 HDS/Jabiru 3300/Sensenich prop
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| Subject: | Re: How flat is flat |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Pwalsh4539@aol.com
that is plenty flat, in my opinion
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Don Walker" <dwalk3dw@msn.com>
----- Original Message -----
From: "Brett Ray" <brett@hog-air.com>
Subject: Re: Texas Taildragger
> The motor is mounted on the plane and running. That drive is not what
> we are really using. We just put it there to throw people off. We have
> made our own drive but I won't show any pictures until the T.V. and
> Magazines get their stuff done. There are to many people wanting me to
> give them all the details so they can build one. Our final inspection
> will be in a couple of weeks. If all goes well. We will have the plane
> at Oshkosh.
> Go here http://www.hog-air.com/motor-pics.htm I put up a old picture
> without the drive so you can take a look.
> It's closer than we let on with the web site.
>
> Later
>
> > Hi Brett,
> > Well, the guys on Zenith list are intrigued by the idea of Hog
> Aire. But
> > I can tell by the pics that so far it is just a cool idea. I noticed
> that
> > the reduction unit you show is a Stratus that fits on a Subaru
> engine. Some
> > of the guys thought you were seriously in production. However, I
> think they
> > have figured it out..
> > The prop is a Warp Drive..carbon fiber.
> > Have you made any steps toward a real aircraft conversion? Don
> >
> >
> > do not archive
>
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: ZSMITH3rd@aol.com
April 1st is already gone, but lest we forget, these are the same nice
fellows who put Briggs & Stratton garden tiller engines on a DC-3.
At that time the web site was known as "bs-air.dum".
Prior to that engineering feat was the Bean Burrito-powered "FannyJet" where
all occupants were required to use oxygen masks from boarding onward. That
was on "www.whiz.wow"......................and now we are to suffer the "Low
Rider" model which won't rise above ground effect, the "SoftTail" model intended
for grass runways, and now the "Glide" series: the Electra-Glide requiring a
really long extension cord, the suction-powered Monica-Glide which is
self-rising, and lastly, the It Won't-Glide wingless version. Remember, the letters
comprising "Hog-Air" can be re-arranged to spell "Hoax, Ho-Ho-Ho, Jim Bede BD
Jet, Lossless Semi-conductor, I didn't inhale, etc"
Where do we find the "Nuclear 701" site?
Zed Smith
701/R912
do not archive
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Philip Polstra" <ppolstra@mindspring.com>
I just realized that one of the pictures on this site was snagged from my
building site. I thought that garage looked familar.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of
ZSMITH3rd@aol.com
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Hog-Air
--> Zenith-List message posted by: ZSMITH3rd@aol.com
April 1st is already gone, but lest we forget, these are the same nice
fellows who put Briggs & Stratton garden tiller engines on a DC-3.
At that time the web site was known as "bs-air.dum".
Prior to that engineering feat was the Bean Burrito-powered "FannyJet" where
all occupants were required to use oxygen masks from boarding onward. That
was on "www.whiz.wow"......................and now we are to suffer the "Low
Rider" model which won't rise above ground effect, the "SoftTail" model
intended
for grass runways, and now the "Glide" series: the Electra-Glide requiring
a
really long extension cord, the suction-powered Monica-Glide which is
self-rising, and lastly, the It Won't-Glide wingless version. Remember, the
letters
comprising "Hog-Air" can be re-arranged to spell "Hoax, Ho-Ho-Ho, Jim Bede
BD
Jet, Lossless Semi-conductor, I didn't inhale, etc"
Where do we find the "Nuclear 701" site?
Zed Smith
701/R912
do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: VSI Discrepancy |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Grant Corriveau <grantc@ca.inter.net>
> Subject: Zenith-List: VSI Discrepancy
>
> I found out that it reported much
> higher vertical speeds and in line with what I was observing in altitude
> changes.
> So, I must have a leak in my VSI also.
Someone on this list suggested a very small 'bead' of silicone sealant
around the face of the glass -- and this is what worked for me.
--
Grant Corriveau
C-GHTF / HDS / CAM100
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| Subject: | Rudder cable fairing in the 601 rear fuselage |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Jeff & Marcia Davidson" <jdavidso@fcc.net>
Listers,
I riveted most of my rear fuselage together today. The last step in the
process per the "Draft Manual" is to position the Cable Outlet Fairings on
the fuselage sides. Between the drawings and the "Draft Manual", I'm now a
bit confused about where the plastic fairlead and the aluminum fairings are
positioned. For instance, the plans seem to show the fairing immediately
next to the flange on the front HT Frame while the "Draft Manual" seems to
show it 30 mm forward of the front HT Frame centerline. For those that have
installed their cables, how my deflection will the fairlead create? How
critical is the placement of the opening? Any help would be appreciated.
Jeff Davidson
CH 601 HD
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| Subject: | [ Perry Morrison ] : New Email List Photo Share Available! |
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| Subject: | Re: Rudder cable fairing in the 601 rear fuselage |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Bryan Martin <bryanmmartin@comcast.net>
on 6/1/03 10:27 PM, Jeff & Marcia Davidson at jdavidso@fcc.net wrote:
> Listers,
> I riveted most of my rear fuselage together today. The last step in the
> process per the "Draft Manual" is to position the Cable Outlet Fairings on
> the fuselage sides....
>
> Jeff Davidson
> CH 601 HD
Looking through my photos, it looks like I mounted the aft end of the
fairing about even with the forward edge of the HT frame. I think that would
put the hole about 30mm forward of the frame. There isn't very much
deflection of the cable and I don't think the placement is too critical.
--
Bryan Martin
N61BM, CH 601 XL, Stratus Subaru.
Airframe construction complete.
Working on instrument panel, electrical and interior.
do not archive.
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Brett Ray" <brett@hog-air.com>
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us a call at 1-888-782-7676 in the U.S.A. or 1-618-937-6767 outside.
Thanks
Brett Ray
owner
Hog Air
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Brett Ray" <brett@hog-air.com>
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Brett Ray
owner
Hog Air
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Brett Ray
owner
Hog Air
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Brett Ray" <brett@hog-air.com>
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we will get back to you shortly. If you need immediate assistance please give
us a call at 1-888-782-7676 in the U.S.A. or 1-618-937-6767 outside.
Thanks
Brett Ray
owner
Hog Air
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