Today's Message Index:
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1. 01:37 AM - Re: Heat Shields (Phil & Michele Miller)
2. 02:39 AM - Re: Subaru - Engine Sensor Connections... (Bryan Martin)
3. 03:35 AM - Re: Subaru - Engine Sensor Connections... (Philip Polstra)
4. 05:42 AM - Looking for engine mount for a Corvair to 601 (Robert Rehmel)
5. 06:00 AM - Re: Looking for engine mount for a Corvair to 601 (Robert Rehmel)
6. 07:07 AM - Re: Looking for engine mount for a Corvair to 601 (Mark A. Wood)
7. 07:16 AM - Re: Intake openings (was Re: Hello and 601HD wing (Mark A. Wood)
8. 07:30 AM - Pitot Tube - 701 (H. Robert Schoenberger)
9. 09:44 AM - oil canning skins (LARRY BOHANNON)
10. 09:47 AM - Re: oil canning skins (Michael Stempf)
11. 09:58 AM - Re: oil canning skins (Saad Mahaini)
12. 09:59 AM - Inquiry (Saad Mahaini)
13. 10:09 AM - Re: oil canning skins (Brian Caithcart)
14. 10:15 AM - Oilcanning (Lowell Metz)
15. 10:38 AM - Re: oil canning skins (Mark A. Wood)
16. 10:42 AM - Re: Pitot Tube - 701 (Jon Croke)
17. 10:45 AM - Re: oil canning skins / fixes (Carlos Sa)
18. 10:52 AM - Re: oil canning skins (CLOJAN@aol.com)
19. 11:47 AM - Re: BULLETIN: SCHNEIDER CUP UPDATE (Gary Gower)
20. 12:03 PM - Re: Heat Shields (Gary Gower)
21. 12:36 PM - Re: oil canning skins (Gary Gower)
22. 02:56 PM - NACA vents ()
23. 03:05 PM - Re: Pitot Tube - 701 (Johann G.)
24. 04:49 PM - Pitot tube from Bill Mileski (Johann G.)
25. 05:29 PM - Re: Pitot Tube - 701 (Ed Kramer)
26. 05:52 PM - Re: Pitot Tube - 701 (Benford2@aol.com)
27. 05:58 PM - Re: NACA vents (Benford2@aol.com)
28. 06:36 PM - Re: Comp Air 7 Crash ////// tragedy/701 (Fred Poor)
29. 07:29 PM - Re: XL Rudder question ()
30. 07:30 PM - Fuse block location in 601 (Bill Steer)
31. 07:38 PM - One less Zodiac in the world :( (Philip Polstra)
32. 07:40 PM - oil canning skins as a stall warning device (Greg Ferris)
33. 07:43 PM - Re: NACA vents (Greg Ferris)
34. 07:56 PM - Re: Fuse block location in 601 (Greg Ferris)
35. 07:59 PM - Re: One less Zodiac in the world :( (Fred or Sandy Hulen)
36. 08:10 PM - Re: One less Zodiac in the world :( (Don Walker)
37. 08:15 PM - Re: Fuse block location in 601 (Don Honabach)
38. 09:09 PM - Re: Fuse block location in 601 (Michel Therrien)
39. 09:12 PM - Re: Fuse block location in 601 (Michel Therrien)
40. 09:45 PM - Re: Fuse block location in 601 (Don Honabach)
41. 10:26 PM - Re: One less Zodiac in the world :( (John Karnes)
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Phil & Michele Miller" <millerpg@ps.gen.nz>
Hi, Lowell,
I have a 701/912S and would be happy to trade photos of my installation
with you off list. There is no sign of any problem with exhaust heat
damage after 72 hours so I guess the way it's done is ok. Try me at
millerpg@ps.gen.nz.
Do not archive
Cheers,
Phil Miller
New Zealand
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Lowell Metz
Subject: Zenith-List: Heat Shields
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Lowell Metz"
--> <lowellmetz@earthlink.net>
I don't want to sound repetitive but am still concerned about the
close proximity of the radiator hoses to the exhaust pipes in the 912 S
installation in my 701. I posed the question about a week ago with no
response. Has not anyone had the same engine/airframe combination? Or
is there nothing to worry about?
I do plan to wrap the pipes with an exhaust pipe wrap but is that
enough protection?
Lowell Metz
701 In Florida
direct advertising on the Matronics Forums.
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| Subject: | Re: Subaru - Engine Sensor Connections... |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Bryan Martin <bryanmmartin@comcast.net>
on 6/16/03 1:51 AM, Don Honabach at don@pcperfect.com wrote:
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Don Honabach" <don@pcperfect.com>
>
> For those of you that are using the Stratus Subaru EA-81, what did you
> use to connect to the included engine sensors? Mykal at Stratus e-mailed
> me back and said to just use a fast-on tab like connector, but it would
> seem like there is a special mating connector for these sensors and
> wanted to see what others are doing.
>
> Thanks!
> Don Honabach
> Tempe, AZ - 601HDS
>
>
If you are referring to the oil and water temperature senders with the round
disc shaped terminal, a .25 inch female fast-on spade connector will fit
over the terminal with the central pin centered in the slot of the
connnector. Thats what I'm using. Just be careful sliding the connector on
so you don't bend the terminal.
--
Bryan Martin
N61BM, CH 601 XL, Stratus Subaru.
Airframe construction complete.
Working on instrument panel, electrical and interior.
do not archive.
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| Subject: | Subaru - Engine Sensor Connections... |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Philip Polstra" <ppolstra@mindspring.com>
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Bryan Martin <bryanmmartin@comcast.net>
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Don Honabach" <don@pcperfect.com>
>
>> For those of you that are using the Stratus Subaru EA-81, what did you
>> use to connect to the included engine sensors? Mykal at Stratus e-mailed
>> me back and said to just use a fast-on tab like connector, but it would
>> seem like there is a special mating connector for these sensors and
>> wanted to see what others are doing.
>>
>If you are referring to the oil and water temperature senders with the
round
>disc shaped terminal, a .25 inch female fast-on spade connector will fit
>over the terminal with the central pin centered in the slot of the
>connnector. Thats what I'm using. Just be careful sliding the connector on
>so you don't bend the terminal.
That's what I'm using as well. Believe it or not they have yet to fall off
in flight.
--
Bryan Martin
N61BM, CH 601 XL, Stratus Subaru.
Airframe construction complete.
Working on instrument panel, electrical and interior.
do not archive.
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| Subject: | Looking for engine mount for a Corvair to 601 |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Robert Rehmel" <traveler601@earthlink.net>
Does anyone have drawings for an engine for a Corvair mounted on a 601?
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| Subject: | Looking for engine mount for a Corvair to 601 |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Robert Rehmel" <traveler601@earthlink.net>
Opps I meant "Does anyone have drawings for an Engine Mount for a Corvair
mounted on a 601HDS."
> [Original Message]
> From: Robert Rehmel <traveler601@earthlink.net>
> To: <zenith-list@matronics.com>
> Date: 6/16/2003 8:44:35 AM
> Subject: Zenith-List: Looking for engine mount for a Corvair to 601
>
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Robert Rehmel"
<traveler601@earthlink.net>
>
> Does anyone have drawings for an engine for a Corvair mounted on a 601?
>
>
>
>
>
--- Robert Rehmel
--- traveler601@earthlink.net
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| Subject: | Re: Looking for engine mount for a Corvair to 601 |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Mark A. Wood" <Mark.Wood@uvm.edu>
>--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Robert Rehmel" <traveler601@earthlink.net>
>
>Does anyone have drawings for an engine mount for a Corvair mounted on a 601?
Robert
I have a list of notes on how to build an engine mount for any
engine. In short you
1) hang the engine in relation to the airframe.
2) position mounting hardware on engine and firewall
3) tack weld a frame to hold the hardware in relative position
4) build your engine mount to fit to the frame
If you want more information contact me off line
Mark
--
Mark Wood
Assistive Technology Consultant, VT I-Team
Center on Disability and Community Inclusion
University of Vermont
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| Subject: | Re: Hello and 601HD wing |
skin)
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Mark A. Wood" <Mark.Wood@uvm.edu>
What I did for engine openings, was to cut the openings a little
oversized, put on some of the spray foam, shape the foam, and glass
over that.
Using this method you will end up with a couple of little high spots
around the openings from the extra layers of glass. (do not sand
these flat or you will lose you connection) This did not bother me
after they were feathered down. If it would bother you, you need to
feather the edges of the fiberglass around the opening before you lay
in the extra layers. That way you can sand the new glass flat up to
the openings.
Mark
>--> Zenith-List message posted by: Michel Therrien <mtherr@yahoo.com>
>
>It's on the engines and I determined the position,
>shape and size of the openings. My question relates
>to the best way of making the openings. How do I mold
>them, make the radius for the hole and lay-up the
>fiberglass.
>
>Michel
--
Mark Wood
Assistive Technology Consultant, VT I-Team
Center on Disability and Community Inclusion
University of Vermont
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| Subject: | Pitot Tube - 701 |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "H. Robert Schoenberger" <HRS4@prodigy.net>
List . . . I was hoping to close up my right wing on my 701 in the next week.
I've purchased the strobe light setup and will install it, but then I remembered
the pitot tube. Maybe I'm missing something, but I don't see anything mentioned
about the pitot tube in the wing photo instructions nor does there seem
to be one in the wing kit. Is this something one has to find and buy on their
own? Is there anything else which has to go inside the wing besides the strobe
wiring and pitot tubing that I may be forgetting? Does it make any difference
whether it goes on the right or left wing (my thought being to finish the right
wing if the pitot tube hasn't arrived)? What route did you use for the pitot
tubing and what type of tubing?
I assume it should be heated in case one accidently gets into a cloud. Any other
tips on installation, location, etc. will be greatly appreciated. Hap Schoenberger
701 tail done, working on right wing. Thank you.
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| Subject: | oil canning skins |
Seal-Send-Time: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 12:43:09 -0400
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "LARRY BOHANNON" <lbohannon1@msn.com>
With these threads about oil canning skins, I was wondering how can a person prevent
it? What method can you use to get the skin tight? Any good tips or hints
or special tools to use??
Regards,
Larry Bohannon
Winder, Georgia
building "Miss Ride Me High 701"
working on wings
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| Subject: | oil canning skins |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Michael Stempf" <mstempf@earthlink.net>
Ok - I will be the one who speaks up, what the heck is "oil canning"?
Thanks,
Michael
Working on wings
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of LARRY
BOHANNON
Subject: Zenith-List: oil canning skins
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "LARRY BOHANNON" <lbohannon1@msn.com>
With these threads about oil canning skins, I was wondering how can a
person prevent it? What method can you use to get the skin tight? Any
good tips or hints or special tools to use??
Regards,
Larry Bohannon
Winder, Georgia
building "Miss Ride Me High 701"
working on wings
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| Subject: | oil canning skins |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Saad Mahaini" <n5ff@attbi.com>
Hello,
I'm planning to build the new Zodiac 601XL. Anyone built or building
one in the Dallas area? Also, anyone has a kit or partial and decided
not to build and wants to sell ?
Thanks, Saad
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of LARRY
BOHANNON
Subject: Zenith-List: oil canning skins
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "LARRY BOHANNON" <lbohannon1@msn.com>
With these threads about oil canning skins, I was wondering how can a
person prevent it? What method can you use to get the skin tight? Any
good tips or hints or special tools to use??
Regards,
Larry Bohannon
Winder, Georgia
building "Miss Ride Me High 701"
working on wings
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Saad Mahaini" <n5ff@attbi.com>
Hello,
I'm planning to build the new Zodiac 601XL. Anyone built or building
one in the Dallas area? Also, anyone has a kit or partial and decided
not to build and wants to sell ?
Thanks, Saad
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| Subject: | Re: oil canning skins |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Brian Caithcart" <bcaithcart@hotmail.com>
Before I chose the 601 I had taken a close look at the RV series. I have a
copy of the RV-6 construction manual. I don't have it in front of me but
remember reading that Van suggests heating the skins with a heat gun prior
to drilling. The resulting expansion and contraction helps get rid of the
oil canning.
Brian Caithcart
CH601HD/corvair
scratch building
>From: "LARRY BOHANNON" <lbohannon1@msn.com>
>Reply-To: zenith-list@matronics.com
>To: "ZenithList" <zenith-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Zenith-List: oil canning skins
>Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 12:43:08 -0400
>
>--> Zenith-List message posted by: "LARRY BOHANNON" <lbohannon1@msn.com>
>
>With these threads about oil canning skins, I was wondering how can a
>person prevent it? What method can you use to get the skin tight? Any good
>tips or hints or special tools to use??
>
>Regards,
>
>Larry Bohannon
>Winder, Georgia
>building "Miss Ride Me High 701"
>working on wings
>
>
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Lowell Metz" <lowellmetz@earthlink.net>
Oil canning is the phenomenon of metal " popping " from a concave to convex surface
and back again from a " normal plane ( as in surface ) and comes from the
way an old oil can was used. You tip the can upside down with the spout where
you want oil and with the thumb or finger , push the bottom of the oil can inward.
It will give a distinct pop and deliver a small amount of oil.
I have heard of builders drilling and riveting under a heat lamp with the
theory being that the skins will expand and when riveted and cool will be tighter.
I personally don't believe it will help all that much. We must face the
fact that we are building home made " Spam cans" with light materials and they
are going to make a racket. Sorry to burst any bubbles but we are not going
to be " quiet birdmen".... rumble , rumble , rumble.
Lowell Metz
701 FL.
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| Subject: | oil canning skins |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Mark A. Wood" <Mark.Wood@uvm.edu>
Yes sometimes we do need a jargon buster.
"oil canning" is when the skin of your plane moves up and down. The
term oil canning is from the old round bottomed oil can where you
would push the center of the bottom of the can and it would make a
plunking sound as the bottom flexed, you would then let up on the
bottom and it would make another plunking sound as air entered the
can and the bottom returned to it's normal position.
Hope that helps.
Mark
>--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Michael Stempf" <mstempf@earthlink.net>
>
>Ok - I will be the one who speaks up, what the heck is "oil canning"?
>
>Thanks,
>
>Michael
>Working on wings
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
>[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of LARRY
>BOHANNON
>To: ZenithList
>Subject: Zenith-List: oil canning skins
>
>--> Zenith-List message posted by: "LARRY BOHANNON" <lbohannon1@msn.com>
>
>With these threads about oil canning skins, I was wondering how can a
>person prevent it? What method can you use to get the skin tight? Any
>good tips or hints or special tools to use??
>
>Regards,
>
>Larry Bohannon
--
Mark Wood
Assistive Technology Consultant, VT I-Team
Center on Disability and Community Inclusion
University of Vermont
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| Subject: | Re: Pitot Tube - 701 |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Jon Croke" <Jon@joncroke.com>
Hap,
Glad to hear you are progressing!
The pitot placement info is on page 7E4 of the plans.
I received the pitot, and plastic tubing (same as brake line) from ZAC as
part of the kit.
Good luck!
Jon
Green Bay
701 stuck at 90% done; engine installed and running
do not archive
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "H. Robert Schoenberger"
<HRS4@prodigy.net>
>
> List . . . I was hoping to close up my right wing on my 701 in the next
week. I've purchased the strobe light setup and will install it, but then I
remembered the pitot tube. Maybe I'm missing something, but I don't see
anything mentioned about the pitot tube in the wing photo instructions nor
does there seem to be one in the wing kit. Is this something one has to
find and buy on their own? Is there anything else which has to go inside the
wing besides the strobe wiring and pitot tubing that I may be forgetting?
Does it make any difference whether it goes on the right or left wing (my
thought being to finish the right wing if the pitot tube hasn't arrived)?
What route did you use for the pitot tubing and what type of tubing?
>
> I assume it should be heated in case one accidently gets into a cloud.
Any other tips on installation, location, etc. will be greatly appreciated.
Hap Schoenberger 701 tail done, working on right wing. Thank you.
>
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| Subject: | Re: oil canning skins / fixes |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Carlos Sa <carlosfsa@yahoo.com>
This is addressed in different issues of the newsletter.
Some people have added 'L' angles (positioned diagonaly) to the sides and bottom
of
the rear fuselage. Others have added a spring loaded string to four adjacent sides
(forming a diamond inside a square - the diamond formed by the string, the square
being the sides of the fuselage), so the panels remain under some traction at all
times.
I don't know how effective these are, but I'll probably use 'L' angles.
Carlos
--- LARRY BOHANNON <lbohannon1@msn.com> wrote:
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "LARRY BOHANNON" <lbohannon1@msn.com>
>
> With these threads about oil canning skins, I was wondering how can a person
> prevent it? What method can you use to get the skin tight? Any good tips or hints
> or special tools to use??
>
> Regards,
>
> Larry Bohannon
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| Subject: | Re: oil canning skins |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: CLOJAN@aol.com
In a message dated 6/16/03 10:10:25 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
bcaithcart@hotmail.com writes:
> I don't have it in front of me but
> remember reading that Van suggests heating the skins with a heat gun prior
>
Bakersfield Ca is a big RV building spot and I have heard that some northern
RV'ers go there to build their wings in the 100+ degree sun. Jack
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| Subject: | Re: BULLETIN: SCHNEIDER CUP UPDATE |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Gary Gower <ggower_99@yahoo.com>
Chip,
CONGRATULATIONS for your most important first victory: Your new
copilot! I am shure that you are as proud as happy as winning all the
races in this championship.
BEST LUCK in the races also, keep posted. We enjoy it very much.
Saludos
Gary Gower
Guadalajara, Jalisco, Mexico.
--- "Chip W. Erwin" <aircraft@czaw.cz> wrote:
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Chip W. Erwin" <aircraft@czaw.cz>
>
> Greetings from sunny Italy.
>
> Today was the first race of the Piccola Schneider Cup. For those who
> don't know, it is a seaplane race similar to the famous seaplane
> races
> starting about 75 years ago which lead to considerable advancements
> in
> aviation.
>
> Now we race with European Ultralight class aircraft. The limits are
> basically UL approval in some European country, and landing and
> taking
> off from the water. The UL float aircraft rule in Italy apply which
> means 65 kph stall speed and 500kg max gross weight.
>
> I am racing the Zenair CH601XL with the Rotax 100hp and a new 2-blade
> carbon, in-flight adjustable, and REVERSING prop made by Woodcomp in
> the
> Czech Republic. And, of course, 1150 amphib floats made by Czech
> Aircraft Works. We have already received Czech certification of the
> 601XL as well as PFA approval in Great Britain so it is an ultralight
> this side of the pond.
>
> I was in Italy last weekend for an airshow in Ozzano and planned to
> stay
> the entire week rather than fly across the Alps 2 extra times (at
> altitudes up to 10,000 feet). But my wife had other plans as her
> water
> broke Wednesday. So I flew the 601XL to the nearest commercial
> airport
> in Milan and made one quick commercial flight back to Prague to watch
> my
> son being born. Wife and baby are just fine, and now I am back to the
> races.
>
> Several competitors failed to make it to the show (as I have said
> before, getting here can be just as challenging as racing). So we
> only
> have 5 competitors. We are now match-racing 2 aircraft at a time. The
> Zenair CH601XL appears to be the fastest aircraft by a small margin
> and
> I have won my first 2 heats.
>
> We have 6 more races tomorrow which will determine the winner. Watch
> this space.
>
> Caio,
> CHIP
>
> Chip W. Erwin
> CZECH AIRCRAFT WORKS, S.R.O.
> Manufacturer of Sport Aircraft & Aircraft Floats
> Lucn 1824, 686 02 Star Mesto, Czech Republic
> Tel: +420 572 543 456 Fax: +420 572 543 692
> USA Fax: (772) 264 0936
> Mobile Tel: (420) 602 342 717
> E-mail: aircraft@czaw.cz www.airplane.cz
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
__________________________________
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| Subject: | Re: Heat Shields |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Gary Gower <ggower_99@yahoo.com>
Lowell,
Maybe this week we will beguin with the engine instalation... I will
let you know how they look in mine.
Saludos
Gary Gower
701 912S.
Do not archive
--- Lowell Metz <lowellmetz@earthlink.net> wrote:
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Lowell Metz"
> <lowellmetz@earthlink.net>
>
> I don't want to sound repetitive but am still concerned about
> the close proximity of the radiator hoses to the exhaust pipes in the
> 912 S installation in my 701. I posed the question about a week ago
> with no response. Has not anyone had the same engine/airframe
> combination? Or is there nothing to worry about?
> I do plan to wrap the pipes with an exhaust pipe wrap but is that
> enough protection?
>
> Lowell Metz
> 701 In Florida
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: oil canning skins |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Gary Gower <ggower_99@yahoo.com>
That is one example of why the RV's are several 1,000's hour project...
Want to build or fly? Remember we are not building a Space Shuttle,
all the Zenith aircraft have a little "oil canning", how much, depends
in personal prefernces and skils.
If the skins are not really loose (wrong position of the drilling line)
a little OC will not hurt.
Saludos
Gary Gower
701 912S
Do not archive.
--- Brian Caithcart <bcaithcart@hotmail.com> wrote:
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Brian Caithcart"
> <bcaithcart@hotmail.com>
>
> Before I chose the 601 I had taken a close look at the RV series. I
> have a
> copy of the RV-6 construction manual. I don't have it in front of me
> but
> remember reading that Van suggests heating the skins with a heat gun
> prior
> to drilling. The resulting expansion and contraction helps get rid of
> the
> oil canning.
>
> Brian Caithcart
> CH601HD/corvair
> scratch building
>
>
> >From: "LARRY BOHANNON" <lbohannon1@msn.com>
> >Reply-To: zenith-list@matronics.com
> >To: "ZenithList" <zenith-list@matronics.com>
> >Subject: Zenith-List: oil canning skins
> >Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 12:43:08 -0400
> >
> >--> Zenith-List message posted by: "LARRY BOHANNON"
> <lbohannon1@msn.com>
> >
> >With these threads about oil canning skins, I was wondering how can
> a
> >person prevent it? What method can you use to get the skin tight?
> Any good
> >tips or hints or special tools to use??
> >
> >Regards,
> >
> >Larry Bohannon
> >Winder, Georgia
> >building "Miss Ride Me High 701"
> >working on wings
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "" <rbauer@intergate.com>
Anyone flying with the Zenith plans NACA vents? I wanted to know how much wind
noise they made. I planned on cutting the NACA vent in the side skin on the
sides of the pilot & co-pilot's legs, making the vent box & just putting the
eyeball vent on the front of the box, eliminating the vent hoses. Incorporating
a flush style door to close the NACA cutout if needed.
Thanks
Rich
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| Subject: | Pitot Tube - 701 |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Johann G." <johann@gi.is>
Hello Hap.
Here is a link to Bill's Mileski web page, where he is installing the
pitot/static tube in his 701 wing.
http://www.geocities.com/wmilesk/fly_proj/latest.html
I copied this method and just installed clear fuel lines inside the wing
with rubber grommets through the wing ribs.
Drilled through the ribs just behind the main spar.
Hope this gives you an idea.
Best regards,
Johann G.
Iceland.
http://www.gi.is/fis/
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of H. Robert
Schoenberger
Subject: Zenith-List: Pitot Tube - 701
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "H. Robert Schoenberger"
<HRS4@prodigy.net>
List . . . I was hoping to close up my right wing on my 701 in the next
week. I've purchased the strobe light setup and will install it, but then I
remembered the pitot tube. Maybe I'm missing something, but I don't see
anything mentioned about the pitot tube in the wing photo instructions nor
does there seem to be one in the wing kit. Is this something one has to
find and buy on their own? Is there anything else which has to go inside the
wing besides the strobe wiring and pitot tubing that I may be forgetting?
Does it make any difference whether it goes on the right or left wing (my
thought being to finish the right wing if the pitot tube hasn't arrived)?
What route did you use for the pitot tubing and what type of tubing?
I assume it should be heated in case one accidently gets into a cloud. Any
other tips on installation, location, etc. will be greatly appreciated. Hap
Schoenberger 701 tail done, working on right wing. Thank you.
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| Subject: | Pitot tube from Bill Mileski |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Johann G." <johann@gi.is>
Sorry Bill for using your web page for reference. Hope you didnt mind.
Best regards,
Johann G.
Iceland.
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| Subject: | Re: Pitot Tube - 701 |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Ed Kramer" <edair701@adelphia.net>
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "H. Robert Schoenberger"
<HRS4@prodigy.net>
>
> List . . . I was hoping to close up my right wing on my 701 in the next
week. I've purchased the strobe light >setup and will install it, but then
I remembered the pitot tube. Maybe I'm missing something, but I don't see
>anything mentioned about the pitot tube in the wing photo instructions nor
does there seem to be one in the >wing kit. Is this something one has to
find and buy on their own? Is there anything else which has to go >inside
the wing besides the strobe wiring and pitot tubing that I may be
forgetting? Does it make any >difference whether it goes on the right or
left wing (my thought being to finish the right wing if the pitot tube
>hasn't arrived)? What route did you use for the pitot tubing and what type
of tubing?
Hap,
The pitot tube and tubing was included in my kit. For the drawings look
on page 7-E-4, why it's there & not in the 7-V section I don't know. As far
as it's placement it doesn't matter which wing it goes in, however, the left
is the standard. Although, I think it might make more sense to put the pitot
tube on the strut and run the tubing along the strut into the fuselage, for
easier access if needed in the future.
Ed Kramer
West Seneca, NY
CH 701: Rudder & left wing complete, right wing 90%.
edair701@adelphia.net
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| Subject: | Re: Pitot Tube - 701 |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Benford2@aol.com
In a message dated 6/16/2003 8:31:44 AM Mountain Daylight Time,
HRS4@prodigy.net writes:
>
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "H. Robert Schoenberger" <
> HRS4@prodigy.net>
>
> List . . . I was hoping to close up my right wing on my 701 in the next
> week. I've purchased the strobe light setup and will install it, but then I
> remembered the pitot tube. Maybe I'm missing something, but I don't see
> anything mentioned about the pitot tube in the wing photo instructions nor does
> there seem to be one in the wing kit. Is this something one has to find and
buy
> on their own? Is there anything else which has to go inside the wing besides
> the strobe wiring and pitot tubing that I may be forgetting? Does it make any
> difference whether it goes on the right or left wing (my thought being to
> finish the right wing if the pitot tube hasn't arrived)? What route did you use
> for the pitot tubing and what type of tubing?
>
> I assume it should be heated in case one accidently gets into a cloud. Any
> other tips on installation, location, etc. will be greatly appreciated. Hap
> Schoenberger 701 tail done, working on right wing. Thank you.
>
>
>
Most planes I have flown and my 801 I am building now has a pitot in the left
wing. I am surprised that your kit or plans didn't mention anything about it.
Ben Haas N801BH.
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: Benford2@aol.com
In a message dated 6/16/2003 3:57:03 PM Mountain Daylight Time,
rbauer@INTERGATE.COM writes:
>
> Anyone flying with the Zenith plans NACA vents? I wanted to know how much
> wind
> noise they made. I planned on cutting the NACA vent in the side skin on the
> sides of the pilot & co-pilot's legs, making the vent box & just putting the
>
> eyeball vent on the front of the box, eliminating the vent hoses.
> Incorporating
> a flush style door to close the NACA cutout if needed.
> Thanks
> Rich
>
Thats what I did. I will let ya know how much noise they make soon.
Ben Haas. N801BH.
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| Subject: | Re: Comp Air 7 Crash ////// tragedy/701 |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Fred Poor <fredspoor2002@yahoo.com>
you don't have to sell me on the 701--- I built one
form plans, flew it 4 yrs, a little over 300 hrs..
GREAT AIRPLANE-- than sold it so as to built the XL,
another great design by Chris--- "fred" do not archive
--- JERICKSON03E@aol.com wrote:
> --> Zenith-List message posted by:
> JERICKSON03E@aol.com
>
> In a message dated 6/15/2003 9:49:09 AM Central
> Daylight Time,
> fredspoor2002@yahoo.com writes:
>
> Yes, lateral weight distribution & stability. Wing
> tanks gravity feed
> together on the 701. Good design, no switching to
> clutter things up. Jerry Do not
> archive.
> >
> > PLENTY-- if you plan of flying the damn thing---
> > maybe there is a lesson to be learned from this
> > tragedy--- "fred" do not archive
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: XL Rudder question |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: <zenith@portouw.com>
Joe,
Doesn't sound like a serious problem. The advise to contact ZAC is
good- they were always very responsive to my questions. If you have an
EAA technical counselor in the neighborhood, I recommend getting him
involved as well. I have a couple of edge distance violations on mine
and both sources above were very helpful in checking the work.
I completed my 601 rudder in April- complete with two junk parts for
static display-- a rib and a nose skin. I guess it's all part of the
process.
Larry Portouw
601XL
Arizona
do not archive
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Scott Laughlin"
<cookwithgas@hotmail.com>
Joe:
I'm building from scratch and I wish I was building from a kit.
Wanna
trade? Just kidding. It does not sound like you have a big
problem. I
will need some photos, but it sounds like you have just one hole
closer than
10mm. Put another rivet between the close one and the next rivet
and you
should be golden. If you read further in the plans, it is OK to
put some
holes closer than the 10mm edge distance (see the stabilizer
drawings and
photo manual for this note).
If I have this wrong, send me some photos so I can see what you
did. Also,
send a photo to ZAC before taking advice from a first-time,
building from
scratch, really not an expert guy like me. Relax, take a deep
breath and
you will find a solution without having to start over.
Email me some photos and maybe it will be clearer what you did.
Take care,
Scott Laughlin
601XL plans-building
www.cooknwithgas.com
----Original Message Follows----
From: "Joe Kerr" <jkerr@pcweb.net>
Subject: Zenith-List: XL Rudder question
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Joe Kerr" <jkerr@pcweb.net>
Hello List-
Don't tell my wife, but it looks like I screwed up the first part
on my
first day of actual building; does this mean I'm officially a
homebuilder
now? When laying out the rivet line on the rib flange for the
bottom rib
6-T-4-6, I placed the holes 10mm from down from the rib and 10mm
up from the
spar as indicated on page 9 of rudder assembly manual. When
directed to
locate the two end holes, I was meticulous in making sure I
maintained 10mm
from the edge of the flange. I also maintained the 10mm edge
distance on
the hole that is drilled 10mm up from the bottom of the doublers
as
indicated on page 10. Unfortunately, drilling 10mm in from the
edge of the
flange means I put a hole 5mm from the edge of the spar doublers
on the
other side. Looks like a new spar, doublers, and rib are needed.
I assume
there is no way to salvage any of this??? This kind of mistake
makes me
wish I was building from scratch! Thanks-Joe
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| Subject: | Fuse block location in 601 |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Bill Steer" <bsteer@gwi.net>
I'm just starting to run wiring for nav lights, strobes, fuel guages, and fuel
pumps through the center wing and into the fuselage. The wiring enters the fuselage
just above the heel support on each side. I plan to use a main and an
essential fuse block and have been looking for a place to mount them. The side
of the fuselage, just aft of the upright at the rear of the heel support, seems
to be a likely location. So the question is - where have folks mounted those
blocks and how much wire do I leave for running to them?
Thanks for any ideas, opinions, etc.
Bill
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| Subject: | One less Zodiac in the world :( |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Philip Polstra" <ppolstra@mindspring.com>
As of about 9:20EDT this morning, there is one less Zodiac in the world.
I was flying from Marietta to Thomson, GA. I made my initial call to unicom
at 15 miles and all was well. 8 miles out the rpm's started to drop and the
engine began running rough. Shortly after that it began to make a banging
noise and started shaking badly. 6 miles away the engine quit. The only
option was a semi-cleared, very rough and uneven field. Everything else was
thick trees. I set up in my pattern and realized it was a rough field, and
at 50' AGL I also saw there was a 20' drop near the end of my path.
I was already talking to unicom so I let them know that I was having engine
trouble, when I new that I had an imianent failure, I squawked 7700 and
called 121.5. At first Augusta didn't understand my problem and was trying
to give me vectors to the airport that I could see. Someone else on the
frequency stated "he doesn't have an engine!" and then they seemed to
understand. I called flight service after I was down and gave my position
as best I could. I'd say it took them about 30 minutes to find me.
The plane looks bad. Both wings are trash forward fuselage is destroyed, a
tow bar came loose and shot through the canopy. I was able to get out of
the plane in under 2 seconds despite my 4 quick release pins. My only
injuries are some scrapes and bruises, mostly from the shoulder harness. I
have to give it to Mr. Heintz that the plane did its job and crumpled, yet
the cockpit was 100% intact. I hit a 3" diameter tree head on with the
spinner.
When the FAA inspector arrived 5.5 hours later he said there was no fuel in
the tank. I think the gacolator sheared off during the crash. I had at
least 10 gallons having flown the plane about an hour at economy cruise with
full fuel to start (16 gallon tank). The FAA said it sounded like some sort
of internal engine failure, and they want to know what I find after the
plane gets pulled out and I tear down the engine. The engine was a Stratus
EA-81.
The plane had just gone through it's condition inspection and had 79.6 hours
on the hobbs.
I thank God that I was able to escape serious injury, and also that my wife
finally nagged me into buying insurance on the plane. While I was waiting
for the FAA at the Georgia State Patrol, a Piper Navajo crashed just after
takeoff from August. I feel extra fortunate.
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| Subject: | oil canning skins as a stall warning device |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Greg Ferris" <ferret@wmtel.net>
To put another spin on oil canning, when I approach stall, the rear fuselage
side skins oil can generating a audible stall warning. A bit lower pitched
than the typical, but perfectly repeatable none the same.
I have .016" skins; they don't lay perfectly flat, but one can increase
weight very quickly by increasing the thickness. Keep it light.
Greg
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark A. Wood" <Mark.Wood@uvm.edu>
Subject: RE: Zenith-List: oil canning skins
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Mark A. Wood" <Mark.Wood@uvm.edu>
>
> Yes sometimes we do need a jargon buster.
>
> "oil canning" is when the skin of your plane moves up and down. The
> term oil canning is from the old round bottomed oil can where you
> would push the center of the bottom of the can and it would make a
> plunking sound as the bottom flexed, you would then let up on the
> bottom and it would make another plunking sound as air entered the
> can and the bottom returned to it's normal position.
>
> Hope that helps.
> Mark
>
>
> >--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Michael Stempf"
<mstempf@earthlink.net>
> >
> >Ok - I will be the one who speaks up, what the heck is "oil canning"?
> >
> >Thanks,
> >
> >Michael
> >Working on wings
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
> >[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of LARRY
> >BOHANNON
> >To: ZenithList
> >Subject: Zenith-List: oil canning skins
> >
> >--> Zenith-List message posted by: "LARRY BOHANNON" <lbohannon1@msn.com>
> >
> >With these threads about oil canning skins, I was wondering how can a
> >person prevent it? What method can you use to get the skin tight? Any
> >good tips or hints or special tools to use??
> >
> >Regards,
> >
> >Larry Bohannon
>
> --
> Mark Wood
> Assistive Technology Consultant, VT I-Team
> Center on Disability and Community Inclusion
> University of Vermont
>
>
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Greg Ferris" <ferret@wmtel.net>
I bought NACA vents from Vans; they have a kit that includes the scoop,
tubing and vent. I put mine a couple of inches behind the firewall and get
a lot of airflow. They need to be in front of the wing.
Greg
----- Original Message -----
From: <rbauer@INTERGATE.COM>
Subject: Zenith-List: NACA vents
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "" <rbauer@intergate.com>
>
> Anyone flying with the Zenith plans NACA vents? I wanted to know how much
wind
> noise they made. I planned on cutting the NACA vent in the side skin on
the
> sides of the pilot & co-pilot's legs, making the vent box & just putting
the
> eyeball vent on the front of the box, eliminating the vent hoses.
Incorporating
> a flush style door to close the NACA cutout if needed.
> Thanks
> Rich
>
>
> -------------------------------------------------
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Fuse block location in 601 |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Greg Ferris" <ferret@wmtel.net>
I have a VFR panel, so I had room to add a glove box in the right side of
the panel to store charts and the like. I used the box to mount the fuse
block (I have access to the block inside the glove box) and also my altitude
encoder.
Greg
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill Steer" <bsteer@gwi.net>
Subject: Zenith-List: Fuse block location in 601
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Bill Steer" <bsteer@gwi.net>
>
> I'm just starting to run wiring for nav lights, strobes, fuel guages, and
fuel pumps through the center wing and into the fuselage. The wiring enters
the fuselage just above the heel support on each side. I plan to use a main
and an essential fuse block and have been looking for a place to mount them.
The side of the fuselage, just aft of the upright at the rear of the heel
support, seems to be a likely location. So the question is - where have
folks mounted those blocks and how much wire do I leave for running to them?
>
> Thanks for any ideas, opinions, etc.
>
> Bill
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: One less Zodiac in the world :( |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Fred or Sandy Hulen" <hulens61@birch.net>
Philip,
Really sorry to hear what happened to you and the plane. The most important
thing is that you are uninjured, the rest will take care of itself in time.
Glad to hear you had insurance in effect.
Fred Hulen
do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: One less Zodiac in the world :( |
Seal-Send-Time: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 22:10:21 -0500
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Don Walker" <dwalk3dw@msn.com>
Philip,
Congratulations on a safe landing. My friend Tom wasn't as fortunate last Saturday.
His wing came off his Cap 10, a French aerobatic plane, while coming
out of a loop in a demonstration for the Young Eagles.
Philip, there could have been several things happened to the Stratus. A place
to start looking may be at the valve guide failures. A piece of the guide
can break off, striking the plug and closing the gap. This leaves the engine shaking
very badly. Check your plugs first to see. Banging could be caused by pieces
imbedded in the piston head and hitting the cylinder head. These things
have happened to me on my Stratus EA-81, but I was able to limp to an airport
7 miles away. If it was a guide, this will be the 6th or 7th one reported. I am
just thankful you weren't hurt. Don Walker, HDS Subaru
----- Original Message -----
From: Philip Polstra
To: Zenith-List@Matronics. Com
Sent: Monday, June 16, 2003 9:39 PM
Subject: Zenith-List: One less Zodiac in the world :(
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Philip Polstra" <ppolstra@mindspring.com>
As of about 9:20EDT this morning, there is one less Zodiac in the world.
I was flying from Marietta to Thomson, GA. I made my initial call to unicom
at 15 miles and all was well. 8 miles out the rpm's started to drop and the
engine began running rough. Shortly after that it began to make a banging
noise and started shaking badly. 6 miles away the engine quit. The only
option was a semi-cleared, very rough and uneven field. Everything else was
thick trees. I set up in my pattern and realized it was a rough field, and
at 50' AGL I also saw there was a 20' drop near the end of my path.
I was already talking to unicom so I let them know that I was having engine
trouble, when I new that I had an imianent failure, I squawked 7700 and
called 121.5. At first Augusta didn't understand my problem and was trying
to give me vectors to the airport that I could see. Someone else on the
frequency stated "he doesn't have an engine!" and then they seemed to
understand. I called flight service after I was down and gave my position
as best I could. I'd say it took them about 30 minutes to find me.
The plane looks bad. Both wings are trash forward fuselage is destroyed, a
tow bar came loose and shot through the canopy. I was able to get out of
the plane in under 2 seconds despite my 4 quick release pins. My only
injuries are some scrapes and bruises, mostly from the shoulder harness. I
have to give it to Mr. Heintz that the plane did its job and crumpled, yet
the cockpit was 100% intact. I hit a 3" diameter tree head on with the
spinner.
When the FAA inspector arrived 5.5 hours later he said there was no fuel in
the tank. I think the gacolator sheared off during the crash. I had at
least 10 gallons having flown the plane about an hour at economy cruise with
full fuel to start (16 gallon tank). The FAA said it sounded like some sort
of internal engine failure, and they want to know what I find after the
plane gets pulled out and I tear down the engine. The engine was a Stratus
EA-81.
The plane had just gone through it's condition inspection and had 79.6 hours
on the hobbs.
I thank God that I was able to escape serious injury, and also that my wife
finally nagged me into buying insurance on the plane. While I was waiting
for the FAA at the Georgia State Patrol, a Piper Navajo crashed just after
takeoff from August. I feel extra fortunate.
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Don Honabach" <don@pcperfect.com>
Bill,
I'm pretty much at the same place as you are and having the same issue.
I'm either going to mount them on the side fuselage skin where you
indicated or since I need to make cross L angle supports that go to each
of the main longerons to ensure the panel has proper support I was
thinking about mounting the fuse panels there as well.
I also went with an EFIS system so I have plenty of panel space. As such
I have room for a glove box on the right side and I've been thinking
about putting a false bottom in that and mounting the fuse blocks there
as well.
I may also split the locations so that any fuses that go to external
stuff (i.e. gadget not on panel), may get mounted on the side fuselage
skin and then put a fuse panel on the extra support L angles for the
panel stuff. That way the panel will end up being more modular and
easier to take on and off during this phase.
I also plan on making an access hole on the instrument panel top skin so
my access to the fuses should be fairly straight forward although a bit
inconvenient. However, I agree with BK that 99% of your circuit
protection devices don't need to be available during flight.
As for the wire length - I wasted a lot of money on wire that will end
up as cut off waste, but I didn't want to end up with wire that was too
short and I wasn't sure which side of the fuselage the fuse panels would
end up on so I wanted to make sure I had enough either way.
Let me know what you decide.
Regards,
Don Honabach
Tempe, AZ - 601HDS
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From: Bill Steer [mailto:bsteer@gwi.net]
Subject: Zenith-List: Fuse block location in 601
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Bill Steer" <bsteer@gwi.net>
I'm just starting to run wiring for nav lights, strobes, fuel guages,
and fuel pumps through the center wing and into the fuselage. The
wiring enters the fuselage just above the heel support on each side. I
plan to use a main and an essential fuse block and have been looking for
a place to mount them. The side of the fuselage, just aft of the
upright at the rear of the heel support, seems to be a likely location.
So the question is - where have folks mounted those blocks and how much
wire do I leave for running to them?
Thanks for any ideas, opinions, etc.
Bill
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--- Bill Steer <bsteer@gwi.net> wrote:
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Bill Steer"
> <bsteer@gwi.net>
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> I'm just starting to run wiring for nav lights,
> strobes, fuel guages, and fuel pumps through the
> center wing and into the fuselage. The wiring
> enters the fuselage just above the heel support on
> each side. I plan to use a main and an essential
> fuse block and have been looking for a place to
> mount them. The side of the fuselage, just aft of
> the upright at the rear of the heel support, seems
> to be a likely location. So the question is - where
> have folks mounted those blocks and how much wire do
> I leave for running to them?
>
> Thanks for any ideas, opinions, etc.
>
> Bill
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: Michel Therrien <mtherr@yahoo.com>
Sorry for the previous "empty" post,
I installed mine on a panel attached to the right side
of the instrument panel. I copied this from Jeff
Small and others.
Installation is really neat and I expect to be
satisfied with this setup.
See following pages for details:
http://mthobby.pcperfect.com/ch601/chelectrik3.htm
http://mthobby.pcperfect.com/ch601/chinstruments6.htm
Michel
--- Bill Steer <bsteer@gwi.net> wrote:
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> I'm just starting to run wiring for nav lights,
> strobes, fuel guages, and fuel pumps through the
> center wing and into the fuselage. The wiring
> enters the fuselage just above the heel support on
> each side. I plan to use a main and an essential
> fuse block and have been looking for a place to
> mount them. The side of the fuselage, just aft of
> the upright at the rear of the heel support, seems
> to be a likely location. So the question is - where
> have folks mounted those blocks and how much wire do
> I leave for running to them?
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>
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Don Honabach" <don@pcperfect.com>
Michel,
Thanks for the picture link (also weird to find what I'm looking for on
our business server - just always forget to look at what's in front of
me).
I noticed in the pictures that you have on the website that you used
some sort of plastic material to protect the wiring that goes thru your
lightening holes. Do you recall where you got the plastic lining
material?
Thanks!
Don Honabach
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From: Michel Therrien [mailto:mtherr@yahoo.com]
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Fuse block location in 601
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Michel Therrien <mtherr@yahoo.com>
--- Bill Steer <bsteer@gwi.net> wrote:
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Bill Steer"
> <bsteer@gwi.net>
>
> I'm just starting to run wiring for nav lights,
> strobes, fuel guages, and fuel pumps through the
> center wing and into the fuselage. The wiring
> enters the fuselage just above the heel support on
> each side. I plan to use a main and an essential
> fuse block and have been looking for a place to
> mount them. The side of the fuselage, just aft of
> the upright at the rear of the heel support, seems
> to be a likely location. So the question is - where
> have folks mounted those blocks and how much wire do
> I leave for running to them?
>
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>
> Bill
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "John Karnes" <jpkarnes@charter.net>
Phillip-
Congrats on keeping your head in a difficult situation. I had some
engine trouble as well (severe overheating) and managed to limp to an
airstrip and make an "unscheduled" landing. It's amazing how the mind is
able to focus on the task at hand. Good job.
John Karnes
jpkarnes@charter.net
p.s. please keep us informed as to the reason for the engine trouble and
your experience with your insurance co.
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