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1. 12:58 AM - Re: 4130 Steel Plate - Cutting... (Jari Kaija)
2. 01:51 AM - Re: extra storage behind seat (Dr. Perry Morrison)
3. 01:55 AM - Re: 912S Hard Starting (Phil & Michele Miller)
4. 02:04 AM - Re: 601HD Joy Stick (Dr. Perry Morrison)
5. 04:38 AM - Re: 912S Hard Starting (Peter)
6. 06:38 AM - Re: 4130 Steel Plate - Cutting... (Benford2@aol.com)
7. 06:53 AM - What about dual sticks? (Gig)
8. 07:06 AM - boost pump with gravity flow (Jim Frisby)
9. 07:29 AM - Re: 601HD Joy Stick (Carlos Sa)
10. 07:42 AM - Re: 601HD Joy Stick (Gary Gower)
11. 07:53 AM - Re: 912S Hard Starting (Gary Gower)
12. 08:42 AM - Re: What about dual sticks? (ZodiacBuilder@aol.com)
13. 09:34 AM - Re: 4130 Steel Plate - Cutting... (Don Honabach)
14. 09:47 AM - Re: 912S Hard Starting (Don Honabach)
15. 09:51 AM - Re: 4130 Steel Plate - Cutting... (Don Honabach)
16. 10:32 AM - Re: Header tank (Rockin Rim Ranch, Inc.)
17. 11:02 AM - Re: 912S Hard Starting (Gary Gower)
18. 12:22 PM - Garmin GPS Pilot III mounted on instrument panel (Carlos Sa)
19. 12:54 PM - Re: Garmin GPS Pilot III mounted on instrument panel (Don Honabach)
20. 02:22 PM - Re: 601HD Joy Stick (Jackie B. Johnson)
21. 02:44 PM - Subject: Re: Flight Service Station (Brenton Battles)
22. 02:49 PM - Re: Subject: Re: Flight Service Station (Benford2@aol.com)
23. 04:25 PM - Re: Garmin GPS Pilot III mounted on instrument panel (n282rs)
24. 04:26 PM - Extra storage behind seat (Phil Raker)
25. 04:46 PM - Re: Garmin GPS Pilot III mounted on instrument panel (Don Honabach)
26. 05:04 PM - Re: Header tank (Pwalsh4539@aol.com)
27. 05:11 PM - Re: Garmin GPS Pilot III mounted on instrument panel (Rockin Rim Ranch, Inc.)
28. 05:24 PM - Re: Header tank (Rockin Rim Ranch, Inc.)
29. 05:38 PM - Re: Garmin GPS Pilot III mounted on instrument panel (Ray Montagne)
30. 05:50 PM - Re: Header tank (Al Young)
31. 05:53 PM - Re: Garmin GPS Pilot III mounted on instrument panel (Al Young)
32. 05:58 PM - Re: Garmin GPS Pilot III mounted on instrument panel (Rockin Rim Ranch, Inc.)
33. 05:59 PM - Re: Header tank (Don Honabach)
34. 09:07 PM - Centennial Homebuilts (n282rs)
35. 09:07 PM - Re: Garmin GPS Pilot III mounted on instrument panel (JERICKSON03E@aol.com)
36. 09:54 PM - Re: VW (n282rs)
37. 10:50 PM - Re: 4130 Steel Plate - Cutting... (Cdbyuma@aol.com)
38. 11:10 PM - Re: 4130 Steel Plate - Cutting... (Don Honabach)
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| Subject: | Re: 4130 Steel Plate - Cutting... |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Jari Kaija" <jari.kaija@pp.inet.fi>
> issue? I'm asking because when I asked my weldor
> about heating the metal during welding or forming, he
> told me that there is no problem if you allow it to
> cool down by itself (he calls this "normalizing".
> Normalized 4130 is called 4130N. He said that if you
> sink the metal in the water to cool it rapidly, then
> it becomes "tempered".
http://www.project-ch701.net/ch701_misc/FAQ4130N.pdf
-Jari / OH-XJJ
www.jarikaija.com
www.project-ch701.net
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| Subject: | Re: extra storage behind seat |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Dr. Perry Morrison" <perrymorrison@yahoo.com>
Wow, you guys are game. According to my W&B every kg on the rear shelf or
someways behind the seat has the same moment as 3kg in the lockers.
For that reason, I carry only extremely light baggage behind the seat- like fresh
underwear. Used underwear has an increased load factor and must definitely go
in the wings!
Perry Morrison
Do Not Archive
Michel Therrien <mtherr@yahoo.com> wrote:
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Michel Therrien
I've seen this not yet on XLs, but on HD and HDSs.
See this one:
http://mthobby.pcperfect.com/ch601/images/Dcp00267.jpg
The builder made a long compartment that allows him to
bring pairs of skis. Oh... it may take a while to
figure the picture out... it's tilted on the right
side (top is on the right). On left (bottom), this is
the reclined seat cover.
Another person I know made small compartments behind
each of the two seats. It's usefull for storing
headsets, lunch or other things you don't want to
leave on the shelve. See:
http://mthobby.pcperfect.com/ch601/images/pprjgk4.jpg
For my part, I elected not to do this. The "behind
the seat" section is my rear electrical bay where the
master solenoids, battery bus fuse blocs, autopilot
servo, ELT and Strobe power supply are positioned.
See:
http://mthobby.pcperfect.com/ch601/images/Dcp01505.jpg
http://mthobby.pcperfect.com/ch601/images/Dcp01218.jpg
http://mthobby.pcperfect.com/ch601/images/Dcp01144.jpg
I will also install my transponder antenna in that
area.
Finally, all turnbuckles for adjusting the tension of
elevator, rudder and ailerons cables are in that area:
http://mthobby.pcperfect.com/ch601/images/Dcp01463.jpg
Michel
> > > --> Zenith-List message posted by:
CLOJAN@aol.com
I was wondering if anyone thought
> about building a
> "trunk"
> > in this area to keep the small stuff concealed
> that you don't want in
> public
> > view? I
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Michel Therrien CH601-HD
http://mthobby.pcperfect.com/ch601
http://www.zenithair.com/bldrlist/profiles/mthobby
http://pages.infinit.net/mthobby
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| Subject: | 912S Hard Starting |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Phil & Michele Miller" <millerpg@ps.gen.nz>
Dave,
You guys are GREAT!! I've knocked back just about every suggestion that
has been made because I've already tried them yet you STILL keep trying
to help. You are all bloody fantastic. Now I think I have some (good???)
news.
A few people have queried whether or not the problem may be with the
prop. I have always assumed not since it is the 3-blade Warp Drive as
recommended by ZAC. Finally, after trying everything else, I pulled the
prop off tonight. I didn't have another prop to fit and I know it's not
recommended to run the engine without a prop because of the risk of
overspeeding. I removed the throttle springs which cause the default to
full throttle in the event of a cable breakage. I kept one hand firmly
on the throttle to ensure it stayed closed. I hit the starter button
with my hand ready to chop the mags if anything went awry. I'm sure you
will realise by now that the engine started in an instant. I stopped and
retried starting 4 times and it fired very easily every time. You won't
believe what a great feeling it was; I'm still on a high.
My problem now is to understand what this means. Any takers????
Cheers,
Phil Miller
New Zealand
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dave Austin
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: 912S Hard Starting
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Dave Austin" <daveaustin2@sprint.ca>
One last try, Phil. You seem to have done good diagnostic work. Is the
key on the crankshaft loose, letting the timing wander on cranking? Is
it possible you have a leak from one plug wire (cylinder) to another,
causing the kickback? Can't think of anything else! Dave Austin 601HDS
- 912
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| Subject: | Re: 601HD Joy Stick |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Dr. Perry Morrison" <perrymorrison@yahoo.com>
Depends whether you're making an aesthetic decision or a functional one.
A lot of people look at the Y stick and think "that's not like a real plane,
I'd change that". But in terms of function it actually works extremely well.
I've flown 2 aircraft with centre sticks- the Jabiru and the venerable
thruster ultralight. Both do not have the "falling to hand" that the Y stick
does. Consider that most side stick controllers are canted to the left to
match the natural angle of the forearm and wrist. The Y is very comfortable
that way. Dual is really nice. Finger tip flying is very comfortable.
Of course you could rig dual control "lap sticks" a la RV-6 but for me the
effort would not be worth it.
After I while I couldn't give a hoot what other people think. Heck they probably
hate the colour scheme or wheels or whatever. It's just fun to fly and that's the
whole point.
Perry Morrison
CBRxxDRV@aol.com wrote:
--> Zenith-List message posted by: CBRxxDRV@aol.com
I have always thought I would like to do away with the "Y" stick
on the 601 and since I ordered my RAC grip have been thinking
of starting on this. Any pointers, ideas or guidence? Length or
angle. I was looking at it yesterday and thought I needed to
keep the same angle rearward as the "Y"stick.
TIA
Sal Capra
Lakeland, FL
My Home Page
http://hometown.aol.com/cbrxxdrv/index.html
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Morrison Associates Pty Ltd
+61 08 89 88 4617
0408892638
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| Subject: | 912S Hard Starting |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Peter" <peterd@metec.co.nz>
Hi Phil
Unloading the starter motor by removing
the prop. has prompted me to respond. (Some questions
arise which may have already been answered earlier)
So for my contribution (FWIW):
I understand that starting of the 912S is very specific
on the minimum crankshaft RPM during start. All this comes
from that starter motor which very much depends on
your electrical system.
Just how far is the battery located from the starter
motor in terms of return cable run ?
What is the starter motor cable size ?
How good are the cable terminations - do they get warm
to touch after a few cranking attempts ?
Did you use the ROTAX starter contactor supplied with the
912S ?
Is there any other contactor or relay in the high
current starting circuit ?
Is your battery new and have you checked its discharge
performance ?
(I understand that a larger capacity starter motor
is available for the 912S)
Cheers
Peter Dunning
Wellington, NZ.
CH601HD/912S/6-3884
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From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Phil &
Michele Miller
Subject: RE: Zenith-List: 912S Hard Starting
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Phil & Michele Miller"
<millerpg@ps.gen.nz>
Dave,
You guys are GREAT!! I've knocked back just about every suggestion that
has been made because I've already tried them yet you STILL keep trying
to help. You are all bloody fantastic. Now I think I have some (good???)
news.
A few people have queried whether or not the problem may be with the
prop. I have always assumed not since it is the 3-blade Warp Drive as
recommended by ZAC. Finally, after trying everything else, I pulled the
prop off tonight. I didn't have another prop to fit and I know it's not
recommended to run the engine without a prop because of the risk of
overspeeding. I removed the throttle springs which cause the default to
full throttle in the event of a cable breakage. I kept one hand firmly
on the throttle to ensure it stayed closed. I hit the starter button
with my hand ready to chop the mags if anything went awry. I'm sure you
will realise by now that the engine started in an instant. I stopped and
retried starting 4 times and it fired very easily every time. You won't
believe what a great feeling it was; I'm still on a high.
My problem now is to understand what this means. Any takers????
Cheers,
Phil Miller
New Zealand
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dave Austin
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: 912S Hard Starting
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Dave Austin" <daveaustin2@sprint.ca>
One last try, Phil. You seem to have done good diagnostic work. Is the
key on the crankshaft loose, letting the timing wander on cranking? Is
it possible you have a leak from one plug wire (cylinder) to another,
causing the kickback? Can't think of anything else! Dave Austin 601HDS
- 912
direct advertising on the Matronics Forums.
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| Subject: | Re: 4130 Steel Plate - Cutting... |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Benford2@aol.com
In a message dated 6/23/2003 4:41:25 PM Mountain Daylight Time,
don@pcperfect.com writes:
> List message posted by: "Don Honabach" <don@pcperfect.com>
>
> Can any one recommend a good way of cutting a 4130 Steel Plate (1/8"
> thick)? I tried an abrasive saw, but didn't like the results or the heat
> generated. I've also talked to some local sheet metal shops and they
> mentioned that a normal sheer probably wouldn't handle the 4130 very
> well. Do I just need to find a cut-off type metal band saw or ?
>
> Thanks!
>
4130 is some real tough stuff. You are correct about the heat build up using
the abrasive cut off saws. It will harden the edges and make it a pain to file
finish. I was using my plasma cutter for a while till I got tired of fighting
the hardened edges. The best way for the homebuilder is to use a cheap jig
saw with a good metal cutting blade. This set up should cost about 25 dollars
tops.
Ben Haas
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| Subject: | What about dual sticks? |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Gig <wr.giacona@cox-internet.com>
I've seen mods that had dual sticks instead of the "Y" stick and have
thought about it as I intend to do light IFR and having my right hand
available would be nice.
Not that I have a problem with the "Y". As a matter of fact I kind of
liked it during my demo ride.
I just think for IFR dual sticks and a center mounted throttle would
work better.
Does anyone have any plans for dual stick mods avaialble.
Gig Giacona
http://www.peoamerica.net/N601WR
Tail- Finished
Right Wing- Under Construction
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| Subject: | boost pump with gravity flow |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Jim Frisby" <marslander@hotmail.com>
Hi all,
I'm trying to decide how to integrate a facet boost pump (the one from
'spruce, with the AN fittings) into my CH801. My engine (O-320) isn't
equipped with a mechanical fuel pump.
The CH801 affords more than 18" of gravity head between the bottom of the
tanks and the carburetor in level attitude, but could be considerably less
in slow flight and near stall conditions.
I would like to be able to use the boost pump only during take
off/landings/slow flight.
I have yet to test it, but I doubt that gravity flow will flow through the
facet pump sufficiently, if so, I'll need a by-pass for the gravity flow.
I'm wondering if some kind of check valve, or a "normal open" electric valve
would be a better solution.
Anybody done this, or know what kind of valves would work.
Thanks
Jim Frisby
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| Subject: | Re: 601HD Joy Stick |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Carlos Sa <carlosfsa@yahoo.com>
Michel Therrien had a very clever approach to the stick issue, see here:
http://mthobby.pcperfect.com/ch601/chcontrols2.htm
> In a message dated 6/23/03 7:12:11 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> zjohnson@ucnsb.net writes:
>
>
> > My two cents worth...I chopped the "y" and used the MAC handle and have had
> > no troubles with the ? tiny trim" buttons..works great in my opinion..never
> > did understand the reason for "y", but I guess you couled get use to
> > anything if you wish too..
> > Jackie N5JZ
> >
>
> Did you add anything to the stick or just mounted the grip to what
> was left ?
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| Subject: | Re: 601HD Joy Stick |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Gary Gower <ggower_99@yahoo.com>
Another thing I like about the Y is the simplicity of assembling (or
building, for plans built), is one of the various important sales poit
of the Zenith Airplanes... Double controls will triple the contruction
time of the control system, and that apllies to other parts of the
plane.
Good, simple, less expensive, fun, safe and confortable plane, what
more do we need? Remember KIS... and Murphy (more parts, more
posibilities of failure).
Saludos
Gary Gower.
--- "Dr. Perry Morrison" <perrymorrison@yahoo.com> wrote:
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Dr. Perry Morrison"
> <perrymorrison@yahoo.com>
>
> Depends whether you're making an aesthetic decision or a functional
> one.
> A lot of people look at the Y stick and think "that's not like a real
> plane,
> I'd change that". But in terms of function it actually works
> extremely well.
> I've flown 2 aircraft with centre sticks- the Jabiru and the
> venerable
> thruster ultralight. Both do not have the "falling to hand" that the
> Y stick
> does. Consider that most side stick controllers are canted to the
> left to
> match the natural angle of the forearm and wrist. The Y is very
> comfortable
> that way. Dual is really nice. Finger tip flying is very comfortable.
>
> Of course you could rig dual control "lap sticks" a la RV-6 but for
> me the
> effort would not be worth it.
>
> After I while I couldn't give a hoot what other people think. Heck
> they probably
> hate the colour scheme or wheels or whatever. It's just fun to fly
> and that's the
> whole point.
>
> Perry Morrison
>
>
> CBRxxDRV@aol.com wrote:
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: CBRxxDRV@aol.com
>
> I have always thought I would like to do away with the "Y" stick
> on the 601 and since I ordered my RAC grip have been thinking
> of starting on this. Any pointers, ideas or guidence? Length or
> angle. I was looking at it yesterday and thought I needed to
> keep the same angle rearward as the "Y"stick.
>
> TIA
>
> Sal Capra
> Lakeland, FL
> My Home Page
> http://hometown.aol.com/cbrxxdrv/index.html
>
>
> __________________________
> Dr. Perry Morrison
> Morrison Associates Pty Ltd
> +61 08 89 88 4617
> 0408892638
> perrymorrison@yahoo.com
> __________________________
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | 912S Hard Starting |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Gary Gower <ggower_99@yahoo.com>
This reminds me of the old 6 volts VW's early '60s: With the engine
cold the "heavyness" of the engine/oil will take most of the
electricity for the starter, there was not enough juice for the points
and coil to start it, a direct cable and switch betwen the batery and
the coil was need to start it, mainly when the battery was not that
new.
This brings me a question: In the 912 the ignition is batery related?
Or is by induction as in the 503?
Is my first 912, brand new just in the engine mount, I havent
desasambled it (will not dare new) or read the engines facts yet, to
busy building.
Saludos
Gary Gower
--- Peter <peterd@metec.co.nz> wrote:
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Peter" <peterd@metec.co.nz>
>
> Date: 24 June 2003
>
> Hi Phil
>
> Unloading the starter motor by removing
> the prop. has prompted me to respond. (Some questions
> arise which may have already been answered earlier)
> So for my contribution (FWIW):
>
> I understand that starting of the 912S is very specific
> on the minimum crankshaft RPM during start. All this comes
> from that starter motor which very much depends on
> your electrical system.
> Just how far is the battery located from the starter
> motor in terms of return cable run ?
> What is the starter motor cable size ?
> How good are the cable terminations - do they get warm
> to touch after a few cranking attempts ?
> Did you use the ROTAX starter contactor supplied with the
> 912S ?
> Is there any other contactor or relay in the high
> current starting circuit ?
> Is your battery new and have you checked its discharge
> performance ?
> (I understand that a larger capacity starter motor
> is available for the 912S)
>
> Cheers
>
> Peter Dunning
> Wellington, NZ.
> CH601HD/912S/6-3884
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Phil &
> Michele Miller
> To: zenith-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: Zenith-List: 912S Hard Starting
>
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Phil & Michele Miller"
> <millerpg@ps.gen.nz>
>
> Dave,
>
> You guys are GREAT!! I've knocked back just about every suggestion
> that
> has been made because I've already tried them yet you STILL keep
> trying
> to help. You are all bloody fantastic. Now I think I have some
> (good???)
> news.
>
> A few people have queried whether or not the problem may be with the
> prop. I have always assumed not since it is the 3-blade Warp Drive as
> recommended by ZAC. Finally, after trying everything else, I pulled
> the
> prop off tonight. I didn't have another prop to fit and I know it's
> not
> recommended to run the engine without a prop because of the risk of
> overspeeding. I removed the throttle springs which cause the default
> to
> full throttle in the event of a cable breakage. I kept one hand
> firmly
> on the throttle to ensure it stayed closed. I hit the starter button
> with my hand ready to chop the mags if anything went awry. I'm sure
> you
> will realise by now that the engine started in an instant. I stopped
> and
> retried starting 4 times and it fired very easily every time. You
> won't
> believe what a great feeling it was; I'm still on a high.
>
> My problem now is to understand what this means. Any takers????
>
> Cheers,
> Phil Miller
> New Zealand
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dave
> Austin
> To: zenith-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Zenith-List: 912S Hard Starting
>
>
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Dave Austin"
> <daveaustin2@sprint.ca>
>
> One last try, Phil. You seem to have done good diagnostic work. Is
> the
> key on the crankshaft loose, letting the timing wander on cranking?
> Is
> it possible you have a leak from one plug wire (cylinder) to another,
> causing the kickback? Can't think of anything else! Dave Austin
> 601HDS
> - 912
>
>
> direct advertising on the Matronics Forums.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: What about dual sticks? |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: ZodiacBuilder@aol.com
In a message dated 6/24/2003 9:54:23 AM Eastern Standard Time,
wr.giacona@cox-internet.com writes:
> Does anyone have any plans for dual stick mods available.
>
>
> Gig Giacona
Yup.....
John W. Tarabocchia
http://www.hometown.aol.com/zodiacbuilder/
N6042T 100hrs. flown
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| Subject: | 4130 Steel Plate - Cutting... |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Don Honabach" <don@pcperfect.com>
Dick,
What is a Sawzall?
Thanks!
Don
-----Original Message-----
From: Cdbyuma@aol.com [mailto:Cdbyuma@aol.com]
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: 4130 Steel Plate - Cutting...
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Cdbyuma@aol.com
A sawzall should do it. I just cut some 1/4 inch steel with a bimetal
blade
in my Milwaukee Sawzall.
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| Subject: | 912S Hard Starting |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Don Honabach" <don@pcperfect.com>
I thought on earlier thread that you mentioned hooking directly from the
battery to the starter with a good guage of wire (4 or 2GA) and that
didn't help. Could it be that your starter is marginal/bad?
As a side note, you could also just change the POH -
Cold Weather Starting
- Remove Prop
- Start Engine
- Get a cup of coffee
- Go to the bathroom and read latest Kit Planes
- Stop Engine
- Install Prop
- Go Fly
Regards,
Don
-----Original Message-----
From: Peter [mailto:peterd@metec.co.nz]
Subject: RE: Zenith-List: 912S Hard Starting
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Peter" <peterd@metec.co.nz>
Hi Phil
Unloading the starter motor by removing
the prop. has prompted me to respond. (Some questions
arise which may have already been answered earlier)
So for my contribution (FWIW):
I understand that starting of the 912S is very specific
on the minimum crankshaft RPM during start. All this comes
from that starter motor which very much depends on
your electrical system.
Just how far is the battery located from the starter
motor in terms of return cable run ?
What is the starter motor cable size ?
How good are the cable terminations - do they get warm
to touch after a few cranking attempts ?
Did you use the ROTAX starter contactor supplied with the
912S ?
Is there any other contactor or relay in the high
current starting circuit ?
Is your battery new and have you checked its discharge
performance ?
(I understand that a larger capacity starter motor
is available for the 912S)
Cheers
Peter Dunning
Wellington, NZ.
CH601HD/912S/6-3884
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Phil &
Michele Miller
Subject: RE: Zenith-List: 912S Hard Starting
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Phil & Michele Miller"
<millerpg@ps.gen.nz>
Dave,
You guys are GREAT!! I've knocked back just about every suggestion that
has been made because I've already tried them yet you STILL keep trying
to help. You are all bloody fantastic. Now I think I have some (good???)
news.
A few people have queried whether or not the problem may be with the
prop. I have always assumed not since it is the 3-blade Warp Drive as
recommended by ZAC. Finally, after trying everything else, I pulled the
prop off tonight. I didn't have another prop to fit and I know it's not
recommended to run the engine without a prop because of the risk of
overspeeding. I removed the throttle springs which cause the default to
full throttle in the event of a cable breakage. I kept one hand firmly
on the throttle to ensure it stayed closed. I hit the starter button
with my hand ready to chop the mags if anything went awry. I'm sure you
will realise by now that the engine started in an instant. I stopped and
retried starting 4 times and it fired very easily every time. You won't
believe what a great feeling it was; I'm still on a high.
My problem now is to understand what this means. Any takers????
Cheers,
Phil Miller
New Zealand
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dave Austin
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: 912S Hard Starting
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Dave Austin" <daveaustin2@sprint.ca>
One last try, Phil. You seem to have done good diagnostic work. Is the
key on the crankshaft loose, letting the timing wander on cranking? Is
it possible you have a leak from one plug wire (cylinder) to another,
causing the kickback? Can't think of anything else! Dave Austin 601HDS
- 912
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| Subject: | 4130 Steel Plate - Cutting... |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Don Honabach" <don@pcperfect.com>
Thanks for all the great replies.
Never thought about using metal blades (jigsaw, etc.) to cut the
material - just assumed it would eat them up, but will give it try.
Thanks again!
Don Honabach
Tempe, AZ
P.S. For those that want a panel mount type of GPS, but want to use
their handheld model you may find this of interest. I was able to take a
Garmin GPS Pilot III apart and mount the front part to the panel and
then screw the back part in from behind. Looks really nice and doesn't
stick out from the rest of the instruments, radios, etc.
-----Original Message-----
From: Benford2@aol.com [mailto:Benford2@aol.com]
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: 4130 Steel Plate - Cutting...
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Benford2@aol.com
In a message dated 6/23/2003 4:41:25 PM Mountain Daylight Time,
don@pcperfect.com writes:
> List message posted by: "Don Honabach" <don@pcperfect.com>
>
> Can any one recommend a good way of cutting a 4130 Steel Plate (1/8"
> thick)? I tried an abrasive saw, but didn't like the results or the
> heat generated. I've also talked to some local sheet metal shops and
> they mentioned that a normal sheer probably wouldn't handle the 4130
> very well. Do I just need to find a cut-off type metal band saw or ?
>
> Thanks!
>
4130 is some real tough stuff. You are correct about the heat build up
using
the abrasive cut off saws. It will harden the edges and make it a pain
to file
finish. I was using my plasma cutter for a while till I got tired of
fighting
the hardened edges. The best way for the homebuilder is to use a cheap
jig
saw with a good metal cutting blade. This set up should cost about 25
dollars
tops.
Ben Haas
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Rockin Rim Ranch, Inc." <dave@rockinrimranch.com>
My 601 tank doesn't have a tab on the fuel tank.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gary Gower" <ggower_99@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Header tank
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: Gary Gower <ggower_99@yahoo.com>
>
> Cork is insulation from vibration.
>
> The tanks are grounded to the plane by a cable riveted to a tab in the
> side of the tank (701).
>
> Saludos
> Gary Gower.
>
> --- "Rockin Rim Ranch, Inc." <dave@rockinrimranch.com> wrote:
> > --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Rockin Rim Ranch, Inc."
> > <dave@rockinrimranch.com>
> >
> > Thanks for the info, Mark. Sounds like your system works fairly well.
> >
> > Incidently, do you know why ZAC requires cork between the metal
> > header tank
> > and the fuselage? I thought all metal parts had to be grounded,
> > including
> > the fuel tank. When refueling, do you connect the grounding line from
> > the
> > FBO fuel pump to the headr tank, or to the aircraft itself?
> >
> > Thanks....Dave
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Mark A. Wood" <Mark.Wood@uvm.edu>
> > To: <zenith-list@matronics.com>
> > Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Header tank
> >
> >
> > > --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Mark A. Wood"
> > <Mark.Wood@uvm.edu>
> > >
> > > Dave
> > >
> > > I have a shut off on the line from each tank as it comes in from
> > the
> > > wing tank (these will both stay open in normal use). They T into a
> > > single Facet fuel pump which pumps to the header. From the header I
> > > have a overflow / return line which returns to my right wing tank.
> > > Also from the header it is gravity feed to the gascolator and then
> > > the Aero-Carb carburetor by Sonex. This carburetor uses very low
> > fuel
> > > pressure, but I would assume that the standard carb on my O-200
> > would
> > > also work gravity feed on this system.
> > >
> > > This is not yet a tested system. I hope to have the air duct work
> > in
> > > my cowl done in the next two weeks and will then be ready to fire
> > it
> > > up for the first time, and give it a test.
> > >
> > > Mark
> > >
> > >
> > > >--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Rockin Rim Ranch, Inc."
> > > ><dave@rockinrimranch.com>
> > > >
> > > >Thanks Mark. I was planning on installing a Facet fuel pump in
> > series or
> > > >parallel as a backup. How is your system set up? Do you feed your
> > header
> > > >tank by pumping fuel ito it from the wing tanks? Or do all tanks
> > feed the
> > > >gascolator through a fuel selector switch?
> > > >
> > > >Dave
> > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > >From: "Mark A. Wood" <Mark.Wood@uvm.edu>
> > > >To: <zenith-list@matronics.com>
> > > >Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Header tank
> > > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Mark Wood
> > > Assistive Technology Consultant, VT I-Team
> > > Center on Disability and Community Inclusion
> > > University of Vermont
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> __________________________________
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | 912S Hard Starting |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Gary Gower <ggower_99@yahoo.com>
--- Don Honabach <don@pcperfect.com> wrote:
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Don Honabach" <don@pcperfect.com>
>
> I thought on earlier thread that you mentioned hooking directly from
> the
> battery to the starter with a good guage of wire (4 or 2GA) and that
> didn't help. Could it be that your starter is marginal/bad?
>
> As a side note, you could also just change the POH -
> Cold Weather Starting
> - Remove Prop
> - Start Engine
> - Get a cup of coffee
> - Go to the bathroom and read latest Kit Planes
> - Stop Engine
> - Install Prop
> - Go Fly
>
> Regards,
> Don
>
Thats correct, it will be a little dificult to install the prop with
the engine running :-) :-)
Saludos
Gary Gower
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| Subject: | Garmin GPS Pilot III mounted on instrument panel |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Carlos Sa <carlosfsa@yahoo.com>
Hi, Don
> P.S. For those that want a panel mount type of GPS, but want to use
> their handheld model you may find this of interest. I was able to take a
> Garmin GPS Pilot III apart and mount the front part to the panel and
> then screw the back part in from behind. Looks really nice and doesn't
> stick out from the rest of the instruments, radios, etc.
Got a picture?
Carlos
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| Subject: | Garmin GPS Pilot III mounted on instrument panel |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Don Honabach" <don@pcperfect.com>
Carlos,
Here are two pictures (they don't show the back though - if any one
wants a picture of the back of the panel just let me know and I take one
during my next rounds). If anyone is curious, next to the GPS Pilot III
is Dynon Developments D10 EFIS.
http://zodiac.pcperfect.com/PanelGPS-1.JPG
http://zodiac.pcperfect.com/PanelGPS-2.JPG
Also, the second one shows my 'Trademarked Seat Pee Hole' as well.
Actually it's to allow better access to some plumbing that runs along
the back of the center wing.
Regards,
Don Honabach
Tempe, AZ - 601HDS
-----Original Message-----
From: Carlos Sa [mailto:carlosfsa@yahoo.com]
Subject: Zenith-List: Garmin GPS Pilot III mounted on instrument panel
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Carlos Sa <carlosfsa@yahoo.com>
Hi, Don
> P.S. For those that want a panel mount type of GPS, but want to use
> their handheld model you may find this of interest. I was able to take
> a Garmin GPS Pilot III apart and mount the front part to the panel and
> then screw the back part in from behind. Looks really nice and doesn't
> stick out from the rest of the instruments, radios, etc.
Got a picture?
Carlos
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| Subject: | Re: 601HD Joy Stick |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Jackie B. Johnson" <zjohnson@ucnsb.net>
To what was left..works great!!
----- Original Message -----
From: <CBRxxDRV@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: 601HD Joy Stick
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: CBRxxDRV@aol.com
>
> In a message dated 6/23/03 7:12:11 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> zjohnson@ucnsb.net writes:
>
>
> > My two cents worth...I chopped the "y" and used the MAC handle and have
had
> > no troubles with the ? tiny trim" buttons..works great in my
opinion..never
> > did understand the reason for "y", but I guess you couled get use to
> > anything if you wish too..
> > Jackie N5JZ
> >
>
> Did you add anything to the stick or just mounted the grip to what
> was left ?
>
>
> Sal Capra
> Lakeland, FL
> <A HREF="http://hometown.aol.com/cbrxxdrv/index.html">My Home Page
> http://hometown.aol.com/cbrxxdrv/index.html
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Flight Service Station |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Brenton Battles <brentbattles@charter.net>
> Time: 07:49:42 PM PST US
> From: Gary Gower <ggower_99@yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Flight Service Station
>
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: Gary Gower <ggower_99@yahoo.com>
>
> This is the data from Landings of the plane involved in the emergency
> on the tape:
>
> N-number : N95L
> Aircraft Serial Number : 15383
> Aircraft Manufacturer : CESSNA
> Model : 140A
>
My reading of the tape yielded a different tail number, N9815L with the
following particulars:
Serial Number 17276618 Type Registration Corporation
Manufacturer Name CESSNA Certificate Issue Date 11/14/1986
Model 172P Status Valid
Type Aircraft Fixed Wing Single-Engine Type Engine Reciprocating
Pending Number Change None Dealer No
Date Change Authorized None Mode S Code 53330755
MFR Year 1986 Fractional Owner NO
Registered Owner
Name WESTOSHA FLYING CLUB INC
Street PO BOX 327
City WILMOT State WISCONSIN Zip Code 53192-0327
County KENOSHA
Country UNITED STATES
Airworthiness
Engine Manufacturer LYCOMING Classification Standard
Engine Model 0-320 SERIES Category Normal
Utility
A/W Date 04/24/1986
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Brent Battles
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| Subject: | Re: Flight Service Station |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Benford2@aol.com
In a message dated 6/24/2003 3:45:35 PM Mountain Daylight Time,
brentbattles@charter.net writes:
>
>
> My reading of the tape yielded a different tail number, N9815L with the
> following particulars:
> Serial Number 17276618 Type Registration Corporation
> Manufacturer Name CESSNA Certificate Issue Date 11/14/1986
> Model 172P Status Valid
> Type Aircraft Fixed Wing Single-Engine Type
I tried to listen to it but the tape stops about half way through the first
event. Must be AOL. !!!!!
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| Subject: | Re: Garmin GPS Pilot III mounted on instrument panel |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "n282rs" <n282rs@sbcglobal.net>
Don
How does your GPS antenna "see" the sky? Your GPS looks like one that has
the antenna attached to the case. That would leave it buried behind the
instrument panel, blocking the signal to the satellites.
Randy Stout
VW powered CH 601 HD
n282rs@sbcglobal.net
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Don Honabach" <don@pcperfect.com>
Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Garmin GPS Pilot III mounted on instrument panel
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Don Honabach" <don@pcperfect.com>
>
> Carlos,
>
> Here are two pictures (they don't show the back though - if any one
> wants a picture of the back of the panel just let me know and I take one
> during my next rounds). If anyone is curious, next to the GPS Pilot III
> is Dynon Developments D10 EFIS.
>
> http://zodiac.pcperfect.com/PanelGPS-1.JPG
>
> http://zodiac.pcperfect.com/PanelGPS-2.JPG
>
> Also, the second one shows my 'Trademarked Seat Pee Hole' as well.
> Actually it's to allow better access to some plumbing that runs along
> the back of the center wing.
>
> Regards,
> Don Honabach
> Tempe, AZ - 601HDS
>
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| Subject: | Extra storage behind seat |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Phil Raker <phadr1@yahoo.com>
> > room behind the passenger seat under the luggage shelf.
>
> I've thought about that too. I'm thinking that maybe it'll be useful
> space to store part of a collapsible bike or scooter that I can sue when
> I land somewhere. I plan to wait until I can do a weight and balance on
> the completed plane to see if that is even a possibility.
> Mike Fortunato
Hello, list:
I also have thought about an extra space behind the seats, below the
baggage shelf. I have bought 2 folding bikes which fold small enough to fit
both on the top side of the baggage shelf (Brompton bikes, the only ones I
could find that fold that small). The issue with that space or another one
below, is not the space itself, but weight & balance. With 2 bikes on the
shelf, an EA_81 out front, and a battery on the firewall, I expect I should be
OK, but will wait to finally set the battery until I have a chance to check
W&B. Of course, weight & balance is THE critical issue here. Don't forget to
consider it and stay within the envelope (or face the potential consequences)
as you plan extra storage space.
If, however, your extra storage space is to be used only while on the
ground - as in, to keep flight items out of sight while parked - that's no
problem at all. Just don't put so much weight in there that the tail sits on
the ground (unless your 601 is a tail-dragger).
Phil Raker N556P: HDS/Stratus; 75% done 90% to go [getting settled in new
digs after flood, job changes, relocation to Y91] not yet restarted building
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| Subject: | Garmin GPS Pilot III mounted on instrument panel |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Don Honabach" <don@pcperfect.com>
Randy,
I plan on mounting the antenna to top of the 'dash'. The unit has a
remote antenna as well.
Don
-----Original Message-----
From: n282rs [mailto:n282rs@sbcglobal.net]
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Garmin GPS Pilot III mounted on instrument
panel
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "n282rs" <n282rs@sbcglobal.net>
Don
How does your GPS antenna "see" the sky? Your GPS looks like one that
has the antenna attached to the case. That would leave it buried behind
the instrument panel, blocking the signal to the satellites.
Randy Stout
VW powered CH 601 HD
n282rs@sbcglobal.net http://www.geocities.com/r5t0ut21/index.html
----- Original Message -----
From: "Don Honabach" <don@pcperfect.com>
Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Garmin GPS Pilot III mounted on instrument
panel
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Don Honabach" <don@pcperfect.com>
>
> Carlos,
>
> Here are two pictures (they don't show the back though - if any one
> wants a picture of the back of the panel just let me know and I take
> one during my next rounds). If anyone is curious, next to the GPS
> Pilot III is Dynon Developments D10 EFIS.
>
> http://zodiac.pcperfect.com/PanelGPS-1.JPG
>
> http://zodiac.pcperfect.com/PanelGPS-2.JPG
>
> Also, the second one shows my 'Trademarked Seat Pee Hole' as well.
> Actually it's to allow better access to some plumbing that runs along
> the back of the center wing.
>
> Regards,
> Don Honabach
> Tempe, AZ - 601HDS
>
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: Pwalsh4539@aol.com
If you have no ground clamp, just use the upper sight guage outlet, at least
that is what I did.
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| Subject: | Re: Garmin GPS Pilot III mounted on instrument panel |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Rockin Rim Ranch, Inc." <dave@rockinrimranch.com>
Has anyone had experience with the Garmin 35 GPS? Also, are there any
opinions out there as to the functionality and reliability of ControlVision
Anywheremap vs. NavGPS
connected to a PDA?
Thanks for your comments.....Dave
----- Original Message -----
From: "Don Honabach" <don@pcperfect.com>
Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Garmin GPS Pilot III mounted on instrument panel
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Don Honabach" <don@pcperfect.com>
>
> Randy,
>
> I plan on mounting the antenna to top of the 'dash'. The unit has a
> remote antenna as well.
>
> Don
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: n282rs [mailto:n282rs@sbcglobal.net]
> To: zenith-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Garmin GPS Pilot III mounted on instrument
> panel
>
>
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "n282rs" <n282rs@sbcglobal.net>
>
> Don
>
> How does your GPS antenna "see" the sky? Your GPS looks like one that
> has the antenna attached to the case. That would leave it buried behind
> the instrument panel, blocking the signal to the satellites.
>
> Randy Stout
> VW powered CH 601 HD
> n282rs@sbcglobal.net http://www.geocities.com/r5t0ut21/index.html
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Don Honabach" <don@pcperfect.com>
> To: <zenith-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Garmin GPS Pilot III mounted on instrument
> panel
>
>
> > --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Don Honabach" <don@pcperfect.com>
> >
> > Carlos,
> >
> > Here are two pictures (they don't show the back though - if any one
> > wants a picture of the back of the panel just let me know and I take
> > one during my next rounds). If anyone is curious, next to the GPS
> > Pilot III is Dynon Developments D10 EFIS.
> >
> > http://zodiac.pcperfect.com/PanelGPS-1.JPG
> >
> > http://zodiac.pcperfect.com/PanelGPS-2.JPG
> >
> > Also, the second one shows my 'Trademarked Seat Pee Hole' as well.
> > Actually it's to allow better access to some plumbing that runs along
> > the back of the center wing.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Don Honabach
> > Tempe, AZ - 601HDS
> >
>
>
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>
>
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Rockin Rim Ranch, Inc." <dave@rockinrimranch.com>
Good idea.
----- Original Message -----
From: <Pwalsh4539@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Header tank
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: Pwalsh4539@aol.com
>
> If you have no ground clamp, just use the upper sight guage outlet, at
least
> that is what I did.
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Garmin GPS Pilot III mounted on instrument panel |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Ray Montagne <ac6qj@earthlink.net>
On 6/24/03 5:07 PM, "Rockin Rim Ranch, Inc." <dave@rockinrimranch.com>
wrote:
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Rockin Rim Ranch, Inc."
> <dave@rockinrimranch.com>
>
> Has anyone had experience with the Garmin 35 GPS? Also, are there any
> opinions out there as to the functionality and reliability of ControlVision
> Anywheremap vs. NavGPS
> connected to a PDA?
>
> Thanks for your comments.....Dave
I've been using the Control Vision for about 9 months now. It's great! It
uses a Garmin GPS-35 connected to the iPaq. Route planning is great! All
TFRs are updated every month. Lots of features not available on 13K units.
Two such features that are really great are "cones of safety" and a
"required descent rate to destination" on the VSI. The cones of safety
indicate a radius around each airport that you can glide to from your
current cruise altitude. If you're in the circle and the engine dies, you
can make the field (you must enter aircraft data for this to work
correctly). The "required descent rate to destination" appears on a
conventional VSI display. Your current rate of climb/descent is a black
needle on a white background (daylight mode). A second green needle will
appear as you near your destination. If you want a 500' per minute descent
to your destination then continue flying on course at cruise altitude until
the green needle points at 500' per minute down. Then start your descent
and match the rate of descent needle to the required descent needle and
you'll nail the descent every time.
DO NOT ACHIVE
Best Regards, Ray Montagne
Cupertino, CA
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Zenith Aircraft Zodiac CH-601-XL, Jabiru 3300
Construction Log & Photos: <http://home.earthlink.net/~ac6qj/zodiac>
Build Status: Rudder completed
Elevator Completed
Stabilizer Completed
Flaps Completed
Ailerons Completed
Right Wing Under Completed
Right Wing Tip Under Construction
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Al Young" <armyret@one-eleven.net>
Dave-Gary- Two comments. 1st, my 601xl tanks have a tab on the front top
edge. Gary, you mentioned the tank is grounded by "riveting" the cable to
it. Just a thought, I did that and when I had a Tech inspection, the
inspector showed me how quick the rivet gets loose. He suggested a
nut,bolt, and a lock washer rather than a rivet. So I changed. Safe flying-
Al Young N601AY starting on the fuselage.
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| Subject: | Re: Garmin GPS Pilot III mounted on instrument panel |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Al Young" <armyret@one-eleven.net>
Don- Please keep us informed on the EFIS and how it performs. It is going
to be a part of my panel also. Al Young N601AY (reserved)
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| Subject: | Re: Garmin GPS Pilot III mounted on instrument panel |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Rockin Rim Ranch, Inc." <dave@rockinrimranch.com>
Ray,
That's a great system. Lots of features for a good price.
Thanks...Dave
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ray Montagne" <ac6qj@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Garmin GPS Pilot III mounted on instrument panel
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: Ray Montagne <ac6qj@earthlink.net>
>
> On 6/24/03 5:07 PM, "Rockin Rim Ranch, Inc." <dave@rockinrimranch.com>
> wrote:
>
> > --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Rockin Rim Ranch, Inc."
> > <dave@rockinrimranch.com>
> >
> > Has anyone had experience with the Garmin 35 GPS? Also, are there any
> > opinions out there as to the functionality and reliability of
ControlVision
> > Anywheremap vs. NavGPS
> > connected to a PDA?
> >
> > Thanks for your comments.....Dave
>
> I've been using the Control Vision for about 9 months now. It's great!
It
> uses a Garmin GPS-35 connected to the iPaq. Route planning is great! All
> TFRs are updated every month. Lots of features not available on 13K
units.
> Two such features that are really great are "cones of safety" and a
> "required descent rate to destination" on the VSI. The cones of safety
> indicate a radius around each airport that you can glide to from your
> current cruise altitude. If you're in the circle and the engine dies, you
> can make the field (you must enter aircraft data for this to work
> correctly). The "required descent rate to destination" appears on a
> conventional VSI display. Your current rate of climb/descent is a black
> needle on a white background (daylight mode). A second green needle will
> appear as you near your destination. If you want a 500' per minute
descent
> to your destination then continue flying on course at cruise altitude
until
> the green needle points at 500' per minute down. Then start your descent
> and match the rate of descent needle to the required descent needle and
> you'll nail the descent every time.
>
>
> DO NOT ACHIVE
>
> Best Regards, Ray Montagne
> Cupertino, CA
>
>
===========================================================================
>
> Zenith Aircraft Zodiac CH-601-XL, Jabiru 3300
> Construction Log & Photos: <http://home.earthlink.net/~ac6qj/zodiac>
> Build Status: Rudder completed
> Elevator Completed
> Stabilizer Completed
> Flaps Completed
> Ailerons Completed
> Right Wing Under Completed
> Right Wing Tip Under Construction
>
>
===========================================================================
>
>
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Don Honabach" <don@pcperfect.com>
I agree 100% that a locking bolt setup is the way to go. On the flip
side though, if the rivets come loose on their own, we've got bigger
problems :)
-----Original Message-----
From: Al Young [mailto:armyret@one-eleven.net]
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Header tank
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Al Young" <armyret@one-eleven.net>
Dave-Gary- Two comments. 1st, my 601xl tanks have a tab on the front
top edge. Gary, you mentioned the tank is grounded by "riveting" the
cable to it. Just a thought, I did that and when I had a Tech
inspection, the inspector showed me how quick the rivet gets loose. He
suggested a nut,bolt, and a lock washer rather than a rivet. So I
changed. Safe flying- Al Young N601AY starting on the fuselage.
direct advertising on the Matronics Forums.
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| Subject: | Centennial Homebuilts |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "n282rs" <n282rs@sbcglobal.net>
Just wondering if you guys know about Centennial package being offered by
the EAA. I heard about it a couple of months ago, and am trying desperately
to finish up so I can get mine. Basically it's just a special data plate. By
the looks of it, it appears that I may be able to apply now. They are only
asking for a copy of the registration, a picture and a short description. I
registered the plane already.
Looking through the list, I only see one Zenith, a 701 built by Arvin & Greg
Larson. I know others have finished this year. Are you going to ask for your
package?
Here's the link: http://www.eaa.org/homebuilders/centennial.asp I don't
know for sure but, you may have to be an EAA member to view the page.
Randy Stout
VW powered CH 601 HD
n282rs@sbcglobal.net
http://www.geocities.com/r5t0ut21/index.html
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| Subject: | Re: Garmin GPS Pilot III mounted on instrument panel |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: JERICKSON03E@aol.com
In a message dated 6/24/2003 6:26:22 PM Central Daylight Time,
n282rs@sbcglobal.net writes:
>
> Randy Stout
> VW powered CH 601 HD
Randy, What is your VW installation?
Jerry, 701SP, Considering VW & Valley re drive.
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "n282rs" <n282rs@sbcglobal.net>
Jerry
It's a Greatplains 2180 with the Valley Engineering PRSU. The carb is a
Revflo and I have a PowerFin ground adjustable prop. At the recommended
setting, it turns 3500 static. I think I need to try to get it closer to
3800. If you decide to go with a similar setup, you will need to give much
thought to what kind of carb. Many of the carbs for VW conversions don't
like any pressure on the fuel. I beat my head against the wall for months
trying to figure this out. I would think that a 701 would be able to gravity
feed to the carb so, it may not be much of an issue for you. I had to
install a header on my 601. I'm going to fill the header from the wing
tanks. I have a neat fuel gauge on order that will display gallons or %. It
also has an adjustable low fuel alarm and an output to attach a warning
light. That should help make sure I don't forget to fill the header.
Randy Stout
VW powered CH 601 HD
n282rs@sbcglobal.net
http://www.geocities.com/r5t0ut21/index.html
----- Original Message -----
From: <JERICKSON03E@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Garmin GPS Pilot III mounted on instrument panel
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: JERICKSON03E@aol.com
>
> In a message dated 6/24/2003 6:26:22 PM Central Daylight Time,
> n282rs@sbcglobal.net writes:
>
>
> >
> > Randy Stout
> > VW powered CH 601 HD
>
> Randy, What is your VW installation?
>
> Jerry, 701SP, Considering VW & Valley re drive.
>
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| Subject: | Re: 4130 Steel Plate - Cutting... |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Cdbyuma@aol.com
It is a hand held electrically driven saw. You can look at one at "Home
Depot", or most any tool shop.
Dick Buster, CH701
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| Subject: | 4130 Steel Plate - Cutting... |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Don Honabach" <don@pcperfect.com>
Dick,
Sorry for being dense. I went to Milwaukee's site and found the sawzall
and then noticed that it looked pretty much 100% like my reciprocating
saw? Is there a difference between the two tools or is one just a brand
name for the other?
Thanks!
Don
-----Original Message-----
From: Cdbyuma@aol.com [mailto:Cdbyuma@aol.com]
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: 4130 Steel Plate - Cutting...
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Cdbyuma@aol.com
It is a hand held electrically driven saw. You can look at one at "Home
Depot", or most any tool shop.
Dick Buster, CH701
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