---------------------------------------------------------- Zenith-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 07/01/03: 14 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 04:17 AM - Re: Instrument panel labels (RoyN9869L@aol.com) 2. 08:11 AM - KMD 150 (RFG842@aol.com) 3. 09:00 AM - Re: KMD 150 (Rick) 4. 01:21 PM - 601XL on Ebay (wizard-24@juno.com) 5. 06:54 PM - Wing Tanks (Dave Austin) 6. 07:39 PM - XL: Gap between fuel tank and top nose skin (Ray Montagne) 7. 08:25 PM - Re: XL: Gap between fuel tank and top nose skin (wizard-24@juno.com) 8. 09:21 PM - Continuing cooling problems :o( (John Karnes) 9. 09:31 PM - 701 parts (Lee Thomas) 10. 09:31 PM - Re: XL: Gap between fuel tank and top nose skin (Ray Montagne) 11. 09:59 PM - Re: Wing Tanks (Jim and Lucy) 12. 10:06 PM - Re: Wing Tanks (Ray Montagne) 13. 10:18 PM - Re: Continuing cooling problems :o( (Edward T. Jeffko) 14. 10:49 PM - Re: Continuing cooling problems :o( (Don Honabach) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:17:25 AM PST US From: RoyN9869L@aol.com Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Instrument panel labels --> Zenith-List message posted by: RoyN9869L@aol.com Hi Gang, While at S-N-F 2003 I came across a company who does this type of work on aircraft panels at .50 per label (look at the standard placards) $30.00 for the Inst panel, fuel tanks, Radio Call No's, Fuel selector valve, Check out their web site www.engravers.net, Cheers R. Roy ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 08:11:29 AM PST US From: RFG842@aol.com Subject: Zenith-List: KMD 150 --> Zenith-List message posted by: RFG842@aol.com Anyone looking for a Bendix/King KMD150 panel mount GPS with internal GPS. Still in the original box, never installed. Lost my medical. Best offer. RFG842@AOL.COM ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 09:00:04 AM PST US From: Rick Subject: Re: Zenith-List: KMD 150 --> Zenith-List message posted by: Rick RFG842@aol.com wrote: > > --> Zenith-List message posted by: RFG842@aol.com > > Anyone looking for a Bendix/King KMD150 panel mount GPS with internal GPS. > Still in the original box, never installed. Lost my medical. Best offer. That lost medical might not keep you from flying your Zenith. http://www.sportpilot.org/faq/faqs_medical.html The plane will have to fit into the Sport Pilot category. http://www.sportpilot.org/spt_aircraft_types.html ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 01:21:07 PM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: 601XL on Ebay From: wizard-24@juno.com --> Zenith-List message posted by: wizard-24@juno.com http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2421351120& category=26428 Looks like a nice plane -- the starting bid is at $50K. Mike Fortunato 601XL, hoping my plane will be worth half that much some day! The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 06:54:36 PM PST US From: "Dave Austin" Subject: Zenith-List: Wing Tanks --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Dave Austin" For those of you who have installed wing tanks.. If I add a wing tank to my 601, planning to pump the contents up into the top of the current main tank, do I need a finger screen in the wing tank supply pickup and a purge valve in the wing tank - by law, and also practically? Dave Austin 601HDS - 912 Toronto ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 07:39:53 PM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: XL: Gap between fuel tank and top nose skin From: Ray Montagne --> Zenith-List message posted by: Ray Montagne Hello listers, Upon closing up the nose skin, I've got a small gap between the top of the fuel tanks and the top skin at the fuel tank filler ports. The tanks are corked as specified in the plans. Have any other builders encountered this? If so, did you do anything to bond the top skin down on the fuel tank and if so, what process/material did you use to bond the skin to the tank? Please see Thank to all! Best Regards, Ray Montagne Cupertino, CA =========================================================================== Zenith Aircraft Zodiac CH-601-XL, Jabiru 3300 Construction Log & Photos: Build Status: Rudder completed Elevator Completed Stabilizer Completed Flaps Completed Ailerons Completed Right Wing Under Completed Right Wing Tip Under Construction =========================================================================== ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 08:25:35 PM PST US Subject: Re: Zenith-List: XL: Gap between fuel tank and top nose skin From: wizard-24@juno.com --> Zenith-List message posted by: wizard-24@juno.com > Upon closing up the nose skin, I've got a small gap between the top > of the fuel tanks and the top skin at the fuel tank filler ports. Same here. The only thing I've tried so far was to slice a slit in a large o-ring the size of the hole in the nose skin, and when I slip it in place it seals most of the gap. Only problem is the top of the o-ring sticks up a bit, and I'm not sure I like the way it looks. So, I may just caulk the opening around the edge with silicon. The goal would be to get enough of a seal so that wind doesn't blow under the skin. Still open to ideas though.... Mike Fortunato 601XL The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 09:21:23 PM PST US From: "John Karnes" Subject: Zenith-List: Continuing cooling problems :o( --> Zenith-List message posted by: "John Karnes" I can't get out of the pattern because of cooling problems. I barely climb to 2000' and the temp reaches 230 deg. My muffler hangs in front of the rad and I think that might be one problem. Would you guys mind looking at my muffler and telling me if you have a similar setup? Click on the following link to look... Mykal looked at the same pictures and said that the other muffler he offers wouldn't clear the attachment frame. http://www.karnesfamily.info/page2.html Thanks a bunch. ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 09:31:45 PM PST US From: Lee Thomas Subject: Zenith-List: 701 parts --> Zenith-List message posted by: Lee Thomas Does anyone have the email address of the fellow in eastern Canada that makes some 701 parts? Lee ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 09:31:45 PM PST US Subject: Re: Zenith-List: XL: Gap between fuel tank and top nose skin From: Ray Montagne --> Zenith-List message posted by: Ray Montagne On 7/1/03 8:13 PM, "wizard-24@juno.com" wrote: > Same here. The only thing I've tried so far was to slice a slit in a > large o-ring the size of the hole in the nose skin, and when I slip it in > place it seals most of the gap. Only problem is the top of the o-ring > sticks up a bit, and I'm not sure I like the way it looks. So, I may just > caulk the opening around the edge with silicon. The goal would be to get > enough of a seal so that wind doesn't blow under the skin. Still open to > ideas though.... > Thanks for the "O" ring suggestion. I'm less concerned about it sticking up than being open for grit and grime. The only other thing I've come up with is MarineTex which sets hard but can be filed to a smooth surface... DO NOT ACHIVE Best Regards, Ray Montagne Cupertino, CA =========================================================================== Zenith Aircraft Zodiac CH-601-XL, Jabiru 3300 Construction Log & Photos: Build Status: Rudder completed Elevator Completed Stabilizer Completed Flaps Completed Ailerons Completed Right Wing Under Completed Right Wing Tip Under Construction =========================================================================== ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 09:59:07 PM PST US From: Jim and Lucy Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Wing Tanks --> Zenith-List message posted by: Jim and Lucy At 09:52 PM 7/1/2003 -0400, you wrote: >--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Dave Austin" > >For those of you who have installed wing tanks.. >If I add a wing tank to my 601, planning to pump the contents up into the >top of the current main tank, do I need a finger screen in the wing tank >supply pickup and a purge valve in the wing tank - by law, and also >practically? >Dave Austin 601HDS - 912 Toronto Not sure what the law sez but if you had a bunch of water in the wing tanks , you would probably be in the air when you started transferring it to the main tank. That would be bad if it overwhelmed your gascolator. Jim Pollard ch601hds ea81 making coolant header tank from 2 gm ac dryer tanks. ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 10:06:15 PM PST US Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Wing Tanks From: Ray Montagne --> Zenith-List message posted by: Ray Montagne On 7/1/03 9:58 PM, "Jim and Lucy" wrote: > Not sure what the law sez but if you had a bunch of water in the > wing tanks , you would probably be in the air when > you started transferring it to the main tank. That would be bad > if it overwhelmed your gascolator. > That is not an issue here. The tanks are sealed. It is a gap between the sealed tank and the skin that is at issue. The photos posted in the "problem" section of my web page will give you a better idea of what is going on. You'll see the tank filler cap perfectly sealed but an air gap between the tank and the skin. DO NOT ACHIVE Best Regards, Ray Montagne Cupertino, CA =========================================================================== Zenith Aircraft Zodiac CH-601-XL, Jabiru 3300 Construction Log & Photos: Build Status: Rudder completed Elevator Completed Stabilizer Completed Flaps Completed Ailerons Completed Right Wing Under Completed Right Wing Tip Under Construction =========================================================================== ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 10:18:24 PM PST US Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Continuing cooling problems :o( From: "Edward T. Jeffko" --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Edward T. Jeffko" John, Is there cowling of some sort that goes on the intake side. If not, how does the air flow, what makes it work? Is the outlet cowled tightly and in a low pressure area. It's hard to see details from the pics. ET > From: "John Karnes" > Reply-To: zenith-list@matronics.com > Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2003 21:20:14 -0700 > To: > Subject: Zenith-List: Continuing cooling problems :o( > > --> Zenith-List message posted by: "John Karnes" > > I can't get out of the pattern because of cooling problems. I barely climb > to 2000' and the temp reaches 230 deg. My muffler hangs in front of the rad > and I think that might be one problem. Would you guys mind looking at my > muffler and telling me if you have a similar setup? Click on the following > link to look... Mykal looked at the same pictures and said that the other > muffler he offers wouldn't clear the attachment frame. > > http://www.karnesfamily.info/page2.html > > Thanks a bunch. > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 10:49:06 PM PST US Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Continuing cooling problems :o( From: "Don Honabach" --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Don Honabach" I'm not at this point yet, but it would seem like the air would have a hard time flowing through the radiator. For those flying with Subaru's is it common practice to install the radiator so it hangs down up front instead of hanging down in back? Seems like you could create a better funnel the other way. Don -----Original Message----- From: Edward T. Jeffko [mailto:riovista@bossig.com] Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Continuing cooling problems :o( --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Edward T. Jeffko" --> John, Is there cowling of some sort that goes on the intake side. If not, how does the air flow, what makes it work? Is the outlet cowled tightly and in a low pressure area. It's hard to see details from the pics. ET > From: "John Karnes" > Reply-To: zenith-list@matronics.com > Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2003 21:20:14 -0700 > To: > Subject: Zenith-List: Continuing cooling problems :o( > > --> Zenith-List message posted by: "John Karnes" > --> > > I can't get out of the pattern because of cooling problems. I barely > climb to 2000' and the temp reaches 230 deg. My muffler hangs in > front of the rad and I think that might be one problem. Would you > guys mind looking at my muffler and telling me if you have a similar > setup? Click on the following link to look... Mykal looked at the > same pictures and said that the other muffler he offers wouldn't clear > the attachment frame. > > http://www.karnesfamily.info/page2.html > > Thanks a bunch. > > > > > > direct advertising on the Matronics Forums.