---------------------------------------------------------- Zenith-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 07/10/03: 25 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 01:33 AM - Re: MGL Avionics (Phil & Michele Miller) 2. 03:53 AM - Re: 912S engine mount frame (Grant Corriveau) 3. 04:00 AM - Re: Thinking about moving the rad (Grant Corriveau) 4. 06:33 AM - Re: 912S engine mount frame (Benford2@aol.com) 5. 07:20 AM - Re: MGL Avionics (Rockin Rim Ranch, Inc.) 6. 07:22 AM - Re: MGL Avionics (Rockin Rim Ranch, Inc.) 7. 07:23 AM - Re: MGL Avionics (Ralph) 8. 08:51 AM - Re: 912S engine mount frame (Leo J. Corbalis) 9. 08:59 AM - Re: Thinking about moving the rad (HINDE,FRANK (HP-Corvallis,ex1)) 10. 09:51 AM - Re: (wizard-24@juno.com) 11. 11:24 AM - to all eCharts customers (Aircraft Technical Book Company) 12. 12:07 PM - NEW E-MAIL ADDRESS (Don) 13. 12:07 PM - Re: 912S engine mount frame (Gary Gower) 14. 12:55 PM - New EMAIL ADDRESS (Don) 15. 01:02 PM - YAHOOO (Dave Kubassek) 16. 01:41 PM - Re: YAHOOO (wizard-24@juno.com) 17. 02:01 PM - Re: YAHOOO (Pinneo, George) 18. 02:02 PM - Re: YAHOOO (Daniel Vandenberg) 19. 03:09 PM - Re: YAHOOO (HINDE,FRANK (HP-Corvallis,ex1)) 20. 03:57 PM - Re: YAHOOO (Fred or Sandy Hulen) 21. 05:36 PM - Re: YAHOOO (Frank Jones) 22. 06:52 PM - Re: YAHOOO (Larry McFarland) 23. 06:57 PM - Re: MGL Avionics (Phil & Michele Miller) 24. 08:28 PM - Re first flight (Norman Turner) 25. 08:46 PM - Re: YAHOOO (Ed) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 01:33:14 AM PST US From: "Phil & Michele Miller" Subject: RE: Zenith-List: MGL Avionics --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Phil & Michele Miller" Hi, Dave, One thing you need to check very carefully is visibility/readability in certain light conditions. I have a similar instrument (Skydat GX1) in my 701. When flying into low-ish sun, the sun on me reflects off the LCD screen and can cause it to wash out completely (and I mean COMPLETELY) leaving me flying totally blind. The first time it happened was as I set up on final one day when I was still on very low hours in the plane. It was very scary to have no airspeed reference when I hadn't yet acquired a good feel for correct approach speed/attitude. And, yes, it is backlit. I've tried changing the mounting angle and putting non-reflective glass over the screen to no avail. I have just heard that the 3M company apparently have a polarising film which may help. Failing that I am working with a local electronics company to see if they can adapt my unit to one of their display panels. I should say here that the Skydat agent says he has not heard of the problem in other installations. Also, I think the Skydat display is layed out better than the Stratomaster. You can check it out at http://homepages.acenet.co.za/cheeky/skydat/ Cheers, Phil Miller New Zealand -----Original Message----- From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rockin Rim Ranch, Inc. Subject: Zenith-List: MGL Avionics --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Rockin Rim Ranch, Inc." --> Has anyone had any experience with the Stratomaster E2 engine monitoring system by MGL Avionics? This instrument seems to do more than the Grand Rapids Technologies EIS and at a much lower price. This is a Quebec company. The E2 features can be seen at this website: http://www.para-aviation.ca/ Any comments are appreciated. Thanks...Dave CH-601HD direct advertising on the Matronics Forums. ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 03:53:41 AM PST US Subject: Re: Zenith-List: 912S engine mount frame From: Grant Corriveau --> Zenith-List message posted by: Grant Corriveau > ... several RV guys I spoke to have made 0-0 mounts and they claim > they fly just fine. Time will tell for me. The engine offset angle is intended to counteract engine 'P' effect -- a combination of torque, and the angular movement of the air around the airframe as well as the difference in the center of thrust of the propellor during low speed / high power situations (i.e. thrust is offset towards the down-travelling side of the prop at high aircraft attitudes / power settings such as climbing). I've always been impressed how 'neutral' my rudder is during takeoff power and climb applications -- evidence that the engine offset works. With a 0 offset engine mount, the aircraft is simply being controlled by other aerodynamics - rudder offset, etc. etc... -- Grant Corriveau C-GHTF / HDS / CAM100 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 04:00:08 AM PST US Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Thinking about moving the rad From: Grant Corriveau --> Zenith-List message posted by: Grant Corriveau Has anyone thought of burying the rad in that fat little wing - ala Spitfires and Messerschmidts? Theres lots of room in that little 'bay' where the wings attach.... and with the high pressure under the wing and low pressure above the wing, seems like it wouldn't take much of an opening to get a good airflow... maybe a NACA duct on the lower skin?.... hmmmm So far my incowl, nose-mounted rad works fine - but I don't like having it attached to the engine due to eventual vibration effects on the soldered joints etc.... If I ever start to get problems with it there, I'll look seriously at the wing-mounted rad idea.... Keep us posted on how it works out Frank. Thanks -- Grant Corriveau C-GHTF / HDS / CAM100 > So I think covering the rad with a simple bent up sheet metal duct with the > appropriate 14 deg tapered opening would be pretty easy to make. > > Might have to put a spoiler plate in the duct to spread the air to the > outsides to prevent it barreling through the middle. > > I bet it would work though. > > One day I'll try it, but I think I'll use the 1.25 tubes. > > Frank ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 06:33:36 AM PST US From: Benford2@aol.com Subject: Re: Zenith-List: 912S engine mount frame --> Zenith-List message posted by: Benford2@aol.com In a message dated 7/10/2003 4:54:15 AM Mountain Daylight Time, grantc@ca.inter.net writes: > > The engine offset angle is intended to counteract engine 'P' effect -- a > combination of torque, and the angular movement of the air around the > airframe as well as the difference in the center of thrust of the propellor > during low speed / high power situations (i.e. thrust is offset towards the > down-travelling side of the prop at high aircraft attitudes / power settings > such as climbing). > > I've always been impressed how 'neutral' my rudder is during takeoff power > and climb applications -- evidence that the engine offset works. With a 0 > offset engine mount, the aircraft is simply being controlled by other > aerodynamics - rudder offset, etc. etc... > Very good explanation of the forces involded in the engine / mount arrangement. Does your Zenith need any right rudder on the take off roll? Ben Haas N801BH. ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 07:20:52 AM PST US From: "Rockin Rim Ranch, Inc." Subject: Re: Zenith-List: MGL Avionics --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Rockin Rim Ranch, Inc." Thanks Phil. I have a tinted canopy, and a dash that extends beyond the panel, both of which help to keep the sun off the panel. We'll see what happens. Thanks...Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: "Phil & Michele Miller" Subject: RE: Zenith-List: MGL Avionics > --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Phil & Michele Miller" > > Hi, Dave, > > One thing you need to check very carefully is visibility/readability in > certain light conditions. I have a similar instrument (Skydat GX1) in my > 701. When flying into low-ish sun, the sun on me reflects off the LCD > screen and can cause it to wash out completely (and I mean COMPLETELY) > leaving me flying totally blind. The first time it happened was as I set > up on final one day when I was still on very low hours in the plane. It > was very scary to have no airspeed reference when I hadn't yet acquired > a good feel for correct approach speed/attitude. And, yes, it is > backlit. > > I've tried changing the mounting angle and putting non-reflective glass > over the screen to no avail. I have just heard that the 3M company > apparently have a polarising film which may help. Failing that I am > working with a local electronics company to see if they can adapt my > unit to one of their display panels. > > I should say here that the Skydat agent says he has not heard of the > problem in other installations. Also, I think the Skydat display is > layed out better than the Stratomaster. You can check it out at > http://homepages.acenet.co.za/cheeky/skydat/ > > Cheers, > Phil Miller > New Zealand > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rockin Rim > Ranch, Inc. > To: zenith-list@matronics.com > Subject: Zenith-List: MGL Avionics > > > --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Rockin Rim Ranch, Inc." > --> > > Has anyone had any experience with the Stratomaster E2 engine monitoring > system by MGL Avionics? This instrument seems to do more than the Grand > Rapids Technologies EIS and at a much lower price. This is a Quebec > company. The E2 features can be seen at this website: > > http://www.para-aviation.ca/ > > Any comments are appreciated. > > Thanks...Dave > CH-601HD > > > direct advertising on the Matronics Forums. > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 07:22:59 AM PST US From: "Rockin Rim Ranch, Inc." Subject: Re: Zenith-List: MGL Avionics --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Rockin Rim Ranch, Inc." Graham, The MGL Avionics do seem very attractive, especially at their low prices. Thanks for your input. Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: "Graham Byass" Subject: RE: Zenith-List: MGL Avionics > --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Graham Byass" > > Dave > > I have not seen the E2 system but I have purchased the Stratomaster Ultra > that incorporates the major flight instruments plus the basic engine > instruments such as oil temp, pressure, fuel level and flow, tacho and 4 EGT > or CHT's. There are other combinations possible here as well depending on > the type of engine used. > All I can say is that their engineering looks excellent and the visibility > in daylight is very good (backlighting is also available). > My plane is not yet ready to fly but I have seen a similar instrument in a > flying 701 and the owner is very pleased with it. > I am sure you would not be disappointed with the E2 and I am sure the price > would be quite competitive. > > Graham Byass > Western Australia > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Rockin Rim > Ranch, Inc. > To: zenith-list@matronics.com > Subject: Zenith-List: MGL Avionics > > > --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Rockin Rim Ranch, Inc." > > > Has anyone had any experience with the Stratomaster E2 engine monitoring > system by MGL Avionics? This instrument seems to do more than the Grand > Rapids Technologies EIS and at a much lower price. This is a Quebec company. > The E2 features can be seen at this website: > > http://www.para-aviation.ca/ > > Any comments are appreciated. > > Thanks...Dave > CH-601HD > > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 07:23:36 AM PST US From: Ralph Subject: Re: Zenith-List: MGL Avionics --> Zenith-List message posted by: Ralph I am an MGL Avionics dealer located in Toronto, to answer some of your questions, the LCD panel has an antiglare shield built-in and has excellent contrast in all bright light conditions. It also has backlighting which can be turned on to help in low light conditions. I spent quite a bit of time evaluating this product before I committed to the line. Thus far I am quite happy with the products. I am installing a complete system in a Zenith CH250 and a Pulsar XP. If anyone has any more questions, please feel free to ask. Rockin Rim Ranch, Inc." wrote: --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Rockin Rim Ranch, Inc." Has anyone had any experience with the Stratomaster E2 engine monitoring system by MGL Avionics? This instrument seems to do more than the Grand Rapids Technologies EIS and at a much lower price. This is a Quebec company. The E2 features can be seen at this website: http://www.para-aviation.ca/ Any comments are appreciated. Thanks...Dave CH-601HD --------------------------------- ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 08:51:17 AM PST US From: "Leo J. Corbalis" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: 912S engine mount frame --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Leo J. Corbalis" This is normal. With the spiraling air flow from the prop you need the offset or a bigger rudder tab. Single jets have Zero offset. Tilting the engine is the usual way of countering all the forces trying to make flying miserable from rubber band powered free flight models thru R/C models to Real Planes. Vertical fin offset is also used in addition to down and side thrust. It's a real problem for amphibs like the Lake Bucaneer with a pylon mounted engine, on an aborted landing, you better pull the nose up as fast as you push the throttle forward or you'll do the spring plowing earlier than planned! Leo Corbalis do not archive ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 08:59:11 AM PST US From: "HINDE,FRANK (HP-Corvallis,ex1)" Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Thinking about moving the rad --> Zenith-List message posted by: "HINDE,FRANK (HP-Corvallis,ex1)" Sure, Its interesting how we all gravitate to the P51 idea when in fact the spitfire used the underwing method. This is because primarily the tubes just go straight back under the fuse which makes installation simple. Note however the P51 exhaust (namely it's a Spitfire engine when your bragging about the performance of WW 2 fighters!) does not go down under the fuse as it does on the zodiac, hence the rad is not exposed to warmer air from the engine. I have looked at the under wing (use an evaporator thick coil) method which would be better I think because its gets cooled by fresh air. But the plumbing would be a challenge. Ideas, ideas. Frank -----Original Message----- From: Grant Corriveau [mailto:grantc@ca.inter.net] Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Thinking about moving the rad --> Zenith-List message posted by: Grant Corriveau Has anyone thought of burying the rad in that fat little wing - ala Spitfires and Messerschmidts? Theres lots of room in that little 'bay' where the wings attach.... and with the high pressure under the wing and low pressure above the wing, seems like it wouldn't take much of an opening to get a good airflow... maybe a NACA duct on the lower skin?.... hmmmm So far my incowl, nose-mounted rad works fine - but I don't like having it attached to the engine due to eventual vibration effects on the soldered joints etc.... If I ever start to get problems with it there, I'll look seriously at the wing-mounted rad idea.... Keep us posted on how it works out Frank. Thanks -- Grant Corriveau C-GHTF / HDS / CAM100 > So I think covering the rad with a simple bent up sheet metal duct > with the appropriate 14 deg tapered opening would be pretty easy to > make. > > Might have to put a spoiler plate in the duct to spread the air to the > outsides to prevent it barreling through the middle. > > I bet it would work though. > > One day I'll try it, but I think I'll use the 1.25 tubes. > > Frank advertising on the Matronics Forums. Share: Share photos & files with other List members. ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 09:51:50 AM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: Re: From: wizard-24@juno.com --> Zenith-List message posted by: wizard-24@juno.com None are flying yet as far as I know. Mike Fortunato 601XL do not archive On Wed, 9 Jul 2003 21:32:32 -0400 gpjann@juno.com writes: > --> Zenith-List message posted by: gpjann@juno.com > > > I'm looking for performance information for a Zodiac 601 HD/HDS/XL > powered by a Corvair engine. > Thanks, Greg > gpjann@juno.com The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 11:24:59 AM PST US From: "Aircraft Technical Book Company" Subject: Zenith-List: to all eCharts customers --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Aircraft Technical Book Company" As of yesterday, our eCharts division has a new address. It is now a part of our newest on-line catalog www.PilotsBooks.com Go to PilotsBooks, click on CHARTS on the left and a new page will come up allowing you to navigate between Sectionals, WACs, TACs, Facility directories, wall charts, and all IFR enroute charts and terminal plates. All else is exactly the same as before. This is not an ownership change. Just an internal consolidation of 2 related sites. Our company now has 3 basic divisions: Builder's Bookstore - for the custom aircraft builder Aircraft Technical Books - for the student and professional mechanic PilotsBooks - for aircraft owners and pilots ...plus our 2 partnered sites KitPlanes Books and AMT Books as someone in the movies said "the trilogy is now complete" Thanks, Andy do not archive ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 12:07:03 PM PST US From: "Don" Subject: Zenith-List: NEW E-MAIL ADDRESS --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Don" =0D I am changing my Email address =0D =0D FROM: grandpanma@earthlink.net =0D =0D =0D =0D =0D Donald Vough Jr.=0D =0D =0D For Sale=0D =0D 601HDS partial Kit=0D =0D 1). Complete Tail Kit: (Finished) Paid $300.00=0D =0D ***********Will sell for $100.00 *************=0D =0D 1a). The complete Horizontal Stabilizer W/flush electric trim tab.=0D (Finished) Paid: $1495.00=0D =0D ****** Will sell for $775.00 ************=0D =0D 2). Wing & Aileron Kit: ( Finished skeleton of one wing) Paid $4580.00=0D =0D ******** Will sell for $2900.00 *************=0D =0D =0D Will Sell everything for: $3125.00 or Best Reasonable Offer.=0D =0D Plus Boxing up & Shipping, if needed.=0D =0D I live in Puckett, MS. That's about 25 miles south-east of Jackson, MS.=0D =0D E-mail address: mister_m@bellsouth.net =0D =0D Phone No.: 601-591-1589=0D =0D P.O. Box 194=0D =0D Puckett, MS. 39151=0D =0D =0D Thanks, Don Vough ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 12:07:18 PM PST US From: Gary Gower Subject: Re: Zenith-List: 912S engine mount frame --> Zenith-List message posted by: Gary Gower Sure not, gravity and phisics laws are the same worldwide. That is why all pilots try to undertand and help other pilots, thanks to the news and the internet we all know that there is no perfect laws and everywhere you can find honest and corrupt, liars and truth politics. Please build your plane safe, the way you chose to build it. Only comment, no more, I like this list because if focused only in our planes. Saludos Gary Gower. --- Benford2@aol.com wrote: > --> Zenith-List message posted by: Benford2@aol.com > > In a message dated 7/9/2003 5:40:24 PM Mountain Daylight Time, > ggower_99@yahoo.com writes: > > > > > > > > What do you think? If you leave your mount straight you will take > off > > like a P-51 or P-38 pilot :-) watch the pedals... > > > > > > Your mount is angled to the right and when you fly your 701 watch > YOUR > peddles. If you don't use right rudder on the take off roll you will > end up building > ANOTHER 701... I have flown alot of certified planes with all flying > rudders > and they all had the mounts angled to the right too. I used the RV as > an > example because one cannot alter a certified plane legally. Now maybe > down there in > Mexico the rules are different and torque works the other way, ya > know how > things change when you cross the border. > > > > > > > > __________________________________ ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 12:55:14 PM PST US From: "Don" Subject: Zenith-List: New EMAIL ADDRESS --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Don" SORRY about that last email. Forgot to change to PLAIN TEST only. Let me try again. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Old Email address: grandpanma@earthlink.net New Email address: mister_m@bellsouth.net ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~` For Sale 601HDS partial Kit 1). Complete Tail Kit: (Finished) Paid $300.00 ***********Will sell for $100.00 ************* 1a). The complete Horizontal Stabilizer W/flush electric trim tab. (Finished) Paid: $1495.00 ****** Will sell for $775.00 ************ 2). Wing & Aileron Kit: ( Finished skeleton of one wing) Paid $4580.00 ******** Will sell for $2900.00 ************* Will Sell everything for: $3125.00 or Best Reasonable Offer. Plus Boxing up & Shipping, if needed. I live in Puckett, MS. That's about 25 miles south-east of Jackson, MS. E-mail address: mister_m@bellsouth.net Phone No.: 601-591-1589 P.O. Box 194 Puckett, MS. 39151 Thanks, Don Vough ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 01:02:48 PM PST US From: "Dave Kubassek" Subject: Zenith-List: YAHOOO --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Dave Kubassek" Well , Now that i have calmed down. It is with Great Pleasure i would like to anounce on wednesday 8AM july9/03 C-FDSF 601 XL made her first flyte The freshly rebuilt 0235 Lyc. preformed flawlessly with all temps and press. in the green. Controls all preformed the same, wonderfull.. May have to add a touck of weight in the tail/battery area. Full aft trim required to fly straight and level,hands off. Left wing slightly heavy but easily corrected with the electric trim tab. For all intents and purposes flys and handles identical to the chec. built XL i just finished doing a check out in with Flypass c/w Rotax 912. The XL with 912 being slightly more agile maybe with 150 lbs. less engine. Keep up the hard work fellow's, one day they will fly. Our tach now reads 1.7 hrs and 6 take offs and landings which we were able to walk away from. Praise the Lord Dave Kubassek RR#3 Bright Ont ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 01:41:52 PM PST US Subject: Re: Zenith-List: YAHOOO From: wizard-24@juno.com --> Zenith-List message posted by: wizard-24@juno.com > C-FDSF 601 XL made her first flyte How about that -- the XL's are starting to leave the nest. Congrats! Mike Fortunato 601XL The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 02:01:36 PM PST US Subject: RE: Zenith-List: YAHOOO From: "Pinneo, George" --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Pinneo, George" Congratulations! Do not archive GGP ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 02:02:06 PM PST US From: Daniel Vandenberg Subject: Zenith-List: RE: YAHOOO --> Zenith-List message posted by: Daniel Vandenberg Dave... Congrat's!!...and could you post some pictures of the airplane? Dan do not archive --------------------------------- ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 03:09:07 PM PST US From: "HINDE,FRANK (HP-Corvallis,ex1)" Subject: RE: Zenith-List: YAHOOO --> Zenith-List message posted by: "HINDE,FRANK (HP-Corvallis,ex1)" Awesome...I remember the hands trembling as I wrote my "yahoo" message...:) Congrats Frank -----Original Message----- From: Dave Kubassek [mailto:dkubassek@golden.net] Subject: Zenith-List: YAHOOO --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Dave Kubassek" --> Well , Now that i have calmed down. It is with Great Pleasure i would like to anounce on wednesday 8AM july9/03 C-FDSF 601 XL made her first flyte The freshly rebuilt 0235 Lyc. preformed flawlessly with all temps and press. in the green. Controls all preformed the same, wonderfull.. May have to add a touck of weight in the tail/battery area. Full aft trim required to fly straight and level,hands off. Left wing slightly heavy but easily corrected with the electric trim tab. For all intents and purposes flys and handles identical to the chec. built XL i just finished doing a check out in with Flypass c/w Rotax 912. The XL with 912 being slightly more agile maybe with 150 lbs. less engine. Keep up the hard work fellow's, one day they will fly. Our tach now reads 1.7 hrs and 6 take offs and landings which we were able to walk away from. Praise the Lord Dave Kubassek RR#3 Bright Ont advertising on the Matronics Forums. Share: Share photos & files with other List members. ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 03:57:34 PM PST US From: "Fred or Sandy Hulen" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: YAHOOO --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Fred or Sandy Hulen" Congrats Dave, for a successful "first flight" !!! The fun has just begun......... Fred Hulen do not archive ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 05:36:53 PM PST US From: "Frank Jones" Subject: RE: Zenith-List: YAHOOO --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Frank Jones" Congratulations Dave, I hope to be right behind you in the next month or so with my XL + 912S combo. I plan on getting some time in on Art's bird in KW too. How much time did you spend with his before you did your first flight? Frank Jones C-GYXQ -----Original Message----- From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dave Kubassek Subject: Zenith-List: YAHOOO --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Dave Kubassek" Well , Now that i have calmed down. It is with Great Pleasure i would like to anounce on wednesday 8AM july9/03 C-FDSF 601 XL made her first flyte The freshly rebuilt 0235 Lyc. preformed flawlessly with all temps and press. in the green. Controls all preformed the same, wonderfull.. May have to add a touck of weight in the tail/battery area. Full aft trim required to fly straight and level,hands off. Left wing slightly heavy but easily corrected with the electric trim tab. For all intents and purposes flys and handles identical to the chec. built XL i just finished doing a check out in with Flypass c/w Rotax 912. The XL with 912 being slightly more agile maybe with 150 lbs. less engine. Keep up the hard work fellow's, one day they will fly. Our tach now reads 1.7 hrs and 6 take offs and landings which we were able to walk away from. Praise the Lord Dave Kubassek RR#3 Bright Ont ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 06:52:17 PM PST US From: "Larry McFarland" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: YAHOOO --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Larry McFarland" ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Kubassek" Subject: Zenith-List: YAHOOO > --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Dave Kubassek" > > Well , Now that i have calmed down. > It is with Great Pleasure i would like to anounce on wednesday 8AM july9/03 > C-FDSF 601 XL made her first flyte Dave, Very richly deserved congratulations! Your adventure goes on. Please stay connected and keep the list up on your progress. Best Regards Larry McFarland Do Not Archive ________________________________ Message 23 ____________________________________ Time: 06:57:04 PM PST US From: "Phil & Michele Miller" Subject: RE: Zenith-List: MGL Avionics --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Phil & Michele Miller" I guess I didn't make the point properly. Sun on the screen is good as it increases contrast. The problem is with sunlight reflecting off the pilot and cabin, onto the screen and then reflecting back to your eyes. You see a great reflection of yourself but the display data can completely disappear. Cheers, Phil M -----Original Message----- From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rockin Rim Ranch, Inc. Subject: Re: Zenith-List: MGL Avionics --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Rockin Rim Ranch, Inc." --> Thanks Phil. I have a tinted canopy, and a dash that extends beyond the panel, both of which help to keep the sun off the panel. We'll see what happens. Thanks...Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: "Phil & Michele Miller" Subject: RE: Zenith-List: MGL Avionics > --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Phil & Michele Miller" > > Hi, Dave, > > One thing you need to check very carefully is visibility/readability > in certain light conditions. I have a similar instrument (Skydat GX1) > in my 701. When flying into low-ish sun, the sun on me reflects off > the LCD screen and can cause it to wash out completely (and I mean > COMPLETELY) leaving me flying totally blind. The first time it > happened was as I set up on final one day when I was still on very low > hours in the plane. It was very scary to have no airspeed reference > when I hadn't yet acquired a good feel for correct approach > speed/attitude. And, yes, it is backlit. > > I've tried changing the mounting angle and putting non-reflective > glass over the screen to no avail. I have just heard that the 3M > company apparently have a polarising film which may help. Failing that > I am working with a local electronics company to see if they can adapt > my unit to one of their display panels. > > I should say here that the Skydat agent says he has not heard of the > problem in other installations. Also, I think the Skydat display is > layed out better than the Stratomaster. You can check it out at > http://homepages.acenet.co.za/cheeky/skydat/ > > Cheers, > Phil Miller > New Zealand > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rockin > Rim Ranch, Inc. > To: zenith-list@matronics.com > Subject: Zenith-List: MGL Avionics > > > --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Rockin Rim Ranch, Inc." > --> > > Has anyone had any experience with the Stratomaster E2 engine > monitoring system by MGL Avionics? This instrument seems to do more > than the Grand Rapids Technologies EIS and at a much lower price. This > is a Quebec company. The E2 features can be seen at this website: > > http://www.para-aviation.ca/ > > Any comments are appreciated. > > Thanks...Dave > CH-601HD > > > direct advertising on the Matronics Forums. > > direct advertising on the Matronics Forums. ________________________________ Message 24 ____________________________________ Time: 08:28:10 PM PST US From: "Norman Turner" Subject: Zenith-List: Re first flight --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Norman Turner" Congratulations Dave, From down under on your first flight may you have many more. Norm Turner 601 Hds 912 / 230 hrs.PS We are all looking forward to some pics of your pride and joy. ________________________________ Message 25 ____________________________________ Time: 08:46:45 PM PST US From: "Ed" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: YAHOOO --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Ed" Dave. Congratulations fellow Lyc driver...a great effort well done. Ed 601hds/lyc Do not archive