---------------------------------------------------------- Zenith-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 07/28/03: 24 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 12:36 AM - Re: Scratch built wing tanks (Graham Kirby) 2. 02:59 AM - Re: In-flight adjustable propeller (Terry Ladouceur) 3. 06:01 AM - Main Gear Bungees (Terry Ladouceur) 4. 06:07 AM - Re: 801 gascolator (Jim Frisby) 5. 07:17 AM - Re: Oil-canning in wings (Hal Rozema) 6. 07:21 AM - Re: 801 gascolator () 7. 08:10 AM - Gas Tank Cork (H. Robert Schoenberger) 8. 08:25 AM - Re: Stratus valve guides (owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com) 9. 08:39 AM - Re: Acrobatics (owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com) 10. 09:37 AM - Wheel Forks for 601 HDS & Instrument panel drawings (charles.long@gm.com) 11. 10:25 AM - Re: 801 gascolator (Gary Gower) 12. 10:31 AM - Re: 801 gascolator (Benford2@aol.com) 13. 10:31 AM - Re: Wheel Forks for 601 HDS & Instrument panel drawings (Gary Gower) 14. 10:35 AM - Re: Wheel Forks for 601 HDS & Instrument panel drawi (owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com) 15. 10:38 AM - Re: Wheel Forks for 601 HDS & Instrument panel drawings (Benford2@aol.com) 16. 11:03 AM - Re: Gas Tank Cork (Leo Gates) 17. 11:49 AM - Re: Wheel Forks for 601 HDS & Instrument panel drawings () 18. 12:51 PM - Re: Wheel Forks for 601 HDS & Instrument panel drawi (owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com) 19. 12:56 PM - Re: Gas Tank Cork (George Swinford) 20. 01:43 PM - Re: Front wheel axle. Option? (Gary Gower) 21. 02:50 PM - Re: Gas Tank Cork (Larry McFarland) 22. 03:05 PM - Radiator cooling boost? (Larry McFarland) 23. 04:09 PM - Re: Radiator cooling boost? (owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com) 24. 06:54 PM - Re: (Larry McFarland) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 12:36:01 AM PST US From: "Graham Kirby" Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Scratch built wing tanks --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Graham Kirby" Hi Carlos, I am also in the process of building wing tanks for an HD although mine are going to go in the wing locker and not at the leading edge. I made a form out of 3/4" particle board that was actually 3/8" undersize. I have allowed 1/8" for the cork, 1/8" for the metal thickness and a fudge factor (better that the tanks are a little too small than too large). The other 1/8" is for a 3/4" x 1/8" aluminum strip which I have screwed to the edge of the form. This has been filed to a nice smooth radius. So far I have made two of the end caps and they have come out really well. There is something very satisfying about hammering a piece of aluminum sheet into shape around one of these forms! - a little like being a blacksmith.. One thing I didn't anticipate was the need to put crimps in the flange that is formed around the curved surface of the tank end. Another thing that surprised me was the fuel level sensor. I bought the potentiometer type from Aircraft-Spruce and was a little shocked that the device is completely open. I was under the impression that electrical devices and fuel/fuel vapor are best kept well apart. However, I have since been told that this is very normal and not something to worry about... Regards, Graham Kirby 601HD -----Original Message----- From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Carlos Sa Subject: Zenith-List: Scratch built wing tanks --> Zenith-List message posted by: Carlos Sa Hello, all I'll be building the wing tanks (601 HD) in the coming weeks, and I have a question: How have you built the sides? Did you make a forming block smaller than the nose ribs forming block by 3 mm (1/8") all around (to allow for the cork thickness)? Or...? Any other hints and tips would be appreciated. Thanks in advance Carlos CH601-HD Tail feathers done, wing spars done, working on wings. ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 02:59:56 AM PST US From: "Terry Ladouceur" Subject: RE: Zenith-List: In-flight adjustable propeller --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Terry Ladouceur" I have a 601 UL with a 912 and just put a IVO 66" Prop with In Flight Adjustable system. Will be doing first tests this week. Will let you know how it goes. Terry -----Original Message----- From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Thilo Kind Subject: Zenith-List: In-flight adjustable propeller --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Thilo Kind" Hi folks, thinking about a new propeller for the 601 HDS (with Rotax 912). What type of in-flight adjustable propellers are used? What's the experience with those types? Thanks Thilo Kind ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 06:01:05 AM PST US From: "Terry Ladouceur" Subject: Zenith-List: Main Gear Bungees --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Terry Ladouceur" I need to replace the Main Gear Bungees on my 601 and I was wondering if anyone could give me some direction on how to do this? I have already replaced the Nose Gear Bungee which was very straight forward but the Main Gears seem to be a little bit more involved and I am not sure how to go about it. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks. TTYL Terry Ladouceur, MCT, MCSE, MCSD, MCDBA, CNA, A+ Can-Thai Software Solutions Incorporated 605 Manly Street Midland, Ontario Canada L4R 3G4 1-705-527-1717 www.canthaisoftware.com ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 06:07:51 AM PST US From: "Jim Frisby" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: 801 gascolator --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Jim Frisby" >Has anyone put it on the firewall without water accumulating somewhere else >before it? Rich, Zenith provides some water collection "towers" made from aluminum box tubing, that are designed to provide a drain sump at the low point in the fuel system, under the seats. Jim ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 07:17:30 AM PST US From: Hal Rozema Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Oil-canning in wings --> Zenith-List message posted by: Hal Rozema There is a product available that kills the reverberation, a sound dampening coating SUPER SOUNDPROOFING LIQUID available from Aircraft Spruce $12 a qt. Apply two coats, a diagonal stripe, or spray a circle through a small hole and it prevents the resonating through the structure.. Hal Rozema theplanefolks.net PAULROD36@msn.com wrote: > --> Zenith-List message posted by: > > After pulling one wing out into the driveway on the work table, the sun's heat clearly indicated that I'm going to have some oil-canning in the top skin. (maybe there's a moral there--about building the wing during the winter) I'm not real keen on flying inside of a kettle drum. > > Short of putting on a new skin and doing it under a heat lamp, does anybody have any suggestions on avoiding oil-canning in the wing skins? The first two things that came to mind was to build wing lockers in the offending bays, or inserting a vertical piece of styrofoam in there, and somehow gluing it in place. > > How have other builders dealt with the problem? > > Paul Rodriguez > 601XL, corvair-ed. > Left wing buttoned up. > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 07:21:12 AM PST US From: "" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: 801 gascolator --> Zenith-List message posted by: "" Ok thanks. I never recieved those weldments for the fuel lines. Is it an option? Rich do not archive Quoting Gary Liming : > --> Zenith-List message posted by: Gary Liming > > At 02:24 PM 7/27/2003 -0700, you wrote: > >--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Rich" > > > >Where are other 801 builders putting the gascolator? According to the > plans, > >it's either on the fierwall wich is higher than the lowest point of the > >fuselage or under the rear of the front seats, which IS the lowest point of > >the fuselage. But the plans also have the gascolator in this location > >sticking way out underneath the belly. I have a center console for the fuel > >selector & primer line & I would like to put the gascolator inside, center > >of fuselage, just in front of the control stick (with clearance of course). > >Has anyone put it on the firewall without water accumulating somewhere else > >before it? > > Hi Rich, > > If you are following the plans, there is also those aluminum weldments > where the hoses (or lines) from the wing tanks mix together that also has a > drain on the bottom. This is the lowest point on the fuel flow, and as > long as the drains are put in, you can put the gascolator anywhere since > it's only function then is as a strainer. If you aren't using the > weldments, then you need to locate some kind of drain, like the gascolator, > at the lowest point. > > Gary L. > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------- ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 08:10:45 AM PST US From: "H. Robert Schoenberger" Subject: Zenith-List: Gas Tank Cork --> Zenith-List message posted by: "H. Robert Schoenberger" List . . . I am ready to install the fuel tank in the right wing on my 701. What is the best product for cementing the cork to the tank? Hap Schoenberger ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 08:25:50 AM PST US From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com --> Zenith-List message posted by: From: "HINDE,FRANK (HP-Corvallis,ex1)" Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Stratus valve guides Only the inlet guides are now made from Phospher bronze and have a circlip. Are you sure you are not looking at an exhaust guide? These are still standard are not known to fail. In any case it doesn't matter, the circlipped guides fail just as well. According to Ron at Ram perforamance the Stratus guides are put in at the standard height and with the high lift cam the spring cap makes contact with the top of the guide which eventually hammers them into the head. I have now way to confirm this but Ron does know his stuff. Yes one of my circlipped guides just had the circlip come right off and the engine tried to kill me again! I sent my heads back to Stratus and when they came back I had Ron knock the guides out only to find that one of the phospher bronze guides had een knurled on the outside....which is a total auto shop botch and has no place on an aircraft. There is almost no way to check your guides...you will know when it happens. I would simply take your heads off and send them to Ron, $500 now is a very cheap price to pay to avoid the sickening cough the engine makes over the mountains 200 miles from home. Personally I wish I'd never heard of Stratus! Frank -----Original Message----- From: Gary K [mailto:flyink@efortress.com] Subject: Zenith-List: Stratus valve guides --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Gary K" I'm hoping that I could get some help from the Stratus guy's here and Ron from Ram Performance. I wanted to check my valve guides so I pulled a rocker off and took some pictures and posted them on airsoob. Use http://groups.yahoo.com/group/airsoob/files/ and go to Gary K's Pelican or go right to the pictures at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/airsoob/files/Gary%20K%27s%20EA-81%20Pelican/v alve%20guide/ (note wrapped address). I'm assuming that these are the stock pressed-in guides vs. the newer grooved and clipped style. I'd like to take this discussion off-line instead of bothering the list here so I'll collect a few addresses and resend this to a "Stratus group". If you'd like to help out, please respond to me and I'll add to the list. Thanks, Gary Krysztopik Pelican PL w/Stratus EA-81 subaru 97.459% complete Newport, R.I. advertising on the Matronics Forums. Share: Share photos & files with other List members. ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 08:39:53 AM PST US From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com --> Zenith-List message posted by: From: "HINDE,FRANK (HP-Corvallis,ex1)" Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Acrobatics I done rolls but its less than pretty. Entry speed 125mph, pull up to 30 nose up, bury the stick and rudder...Its one of those total commitment moments..... This is not a naturally aerobatic plane! Frank -----Original Message----- From: Thilo Kind [mailto:thilo.kind@gmx.net] Subject: Zenith-List: Acrobatics --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Thilo Kind" Hi folks, anybody tried some mild acrobatics such as loops and aileron rolls with the 601 HDS? How are you doing it entry speeds, etc.)? Thanks Thilo Kind advertising on the Matronics Forums. Share: Share photos & files with other List members. ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 09:37:44 AM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: Wheel Forks for 601 HDS & Instrument panel drawings From: charles.long@gm.com 07/28/2003 12:36:38 PM --> Zenith-List message posted by: charles.long@gm.com Hi everyone. Was working on the Main landing gear forks from my kit > yesterday and everything was going so well that I decided to finish off the Nose gear > fork as well. Well wouldn't you know it, just after I finished it, I found a > note in the plans - "Nose gear gets a 5/16" diameter axle hole" rather than the > 5/8" used on the main gear. Now I have three perfectly good Main gear forks! > Is there is anyone out there willing to swap a raw Wheel Fork & Doubler > (6-L-1-3 & 6-L-!-3HD) for the finished ones? It will save you 2 or 3 hours work > and I will throw in the 5/8" drill bit required to drill the axle holes (cost > $16 & has a 1/2" reduced shank). Will also pay all shipping costs. Thanks > > On another subject, if anyone is interested in an Autocad drawing for > the instrument panel shown in the last issue of the Zenith newsletter, send me > an e-mail off line. Also have a powerpoint file with the panel drawing > imported and all kinds of instrument pictures pasted in. Can be very handy for > arranging the panel layout to get just the right look. > > Chuck Long, > HDS, Airframe 90% complete ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 10:25:51 AM PST US From: Gary Gower Subject: Re: Zenith-List: 801 gascolator --> Zenith-List message posted by: Gary Gower That IS the gascolator. maybe with the 180 HP engine you need an A/C gascolator, I think this type of gascolator is a great and simple idea, works perfectly. Saludos Gary Gower --- wrote: > --> Zenith-List message posted by: "" > > Ok thanks. I never recieved those weldments for the fuel lines. Is it > an option? > > Rich > > do not archive > > Quoting Gary Liming : > > > --> Zenith-List message posted by: Gary Liming > > > > At 02:24 PM 7/27/2003 -0700, you wrote: > > >--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Rich" > > > > > >Where are other 801 builders putting the gascolator? According to > the > > plans, > > >it's either on the fierwall wich is higher than the lowest point > of the > > >fuselage or under the rear of the front seats, which IS the lowest > point of > > >the fuselage. But the plans also have the gascolator in this > location > > >sticking way out underneath the belly. I have a center console for > the fuel > > >selector & primer line & I would like to put the gascolator > inside, center > > >of fuselage, just in front of the control stick (with clearance of > course). > > >Has anyone put it on the firewall without water accumulating > somewhere else > > >before it? > > > > Hi Rich, > > > > If you are following the plans, there is also those aluminum > weldments > > where the hoses (or lines) from the wing tanks mix together that > also has a > > drain on the bottom. This is the lowest point on the fuel flow, > and as > > long as the drains are put in, you can put the gascolator anywhere > since > > it's only function then is as a strainer. If you aren't using the > > weldments, then you need to locate some kind of drain, like the > gascolator, > > at the lowest point. > > > > Gary L. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > __________________________________ http://search.yahoo.com ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 10:31:00 AM PST US From: Benford2@aol.com Subject: Re: Zenith-List: 801 gascolator --> Zenith-List message posted by: Benford2@aol.com In a message dated 7/28/2003 8:21:58 AM Mountain Daylight Time, rbauer@INTERGATE.COM writes: > > Ok thanks. I never recieved those weldments for the fuel lines. Is it an > option? > > Rich > Don't feel bad, I didn't get one with my kit either.. Ben Haas.N801BH ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 10:31:38 AM PST US From: Gary Gower Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Wheel Forks for 601 HDS & Instrument panel drawings --> Zenith-List message posted by: Gary Gower If it was my case, I will make a bushing to fit in place. no problem, the axle will still work the same. Saludos Gary Gower --- charles.long@gm.com wrote: > --> Zenith-List message posted by: charles.long@gm.com > > Hi everyone. Was working on the Main landing gear forks from > my > kit > > yesterday and everything was going so well that I decided to finish > off > the Nose gear > > fork as well. Well wouldn't you know it, just after I finished it, > I > found a > > note in the plans - "Nose gear gets a 5/16" diameter axle hole" > rather > than the > > 5/8" used on the main gear. Now I have three perfectly good Main > gear > forks! > > Is there is anyone out there willing to swap a raw Wheel Fork & > Doubler > > (6-L-1-3 & 6-L-!-3HD) for the finished ones? It will save you 2 or > 3 > hours work > > and I will throw in the 5/8" drill bit required to drill the axle > holes > (cost > > $16 & has a 1/2" reduced shank). Will also pay all shipping costs. > Thanks > > > > On another subject, if anyone is interested in an Autocad > drawing > for > > the instrument panel shown in the last issue of the Zenith > newsletter, > send me > > an e-mail off line. Also have a powerpoint file with the panel > drawing > > imported and all kinds of instrument pictures pasted in. Can be > very > handy for > > arranging the panel layout to get just the right look. > > > > Chuck Long, > > HDS, Airframe 90% complete > > > > > > > > __________________________________ http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 10:35:11 AM PST US From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com --> Zenith-List message posted by: From: "HINDE,FRANK (HP-Corvallis,ex1)" Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Wheel Forks for 601 HDS & Instrument panel drawi ngs Hey Charles, I have another idea...Simpl by a third main gear axle from ZAC...they might even give you a credit for the nose axle that you have. To be honest I was amazed why they went for the nose axle arrangement they did, after all it's a lot more labour with welding etc and when you try to undo the bolts hundreds of mile away from home with the one borrowed wrench you will find the axle simply spins and you can't get the bolts out! So why not simply use a the same axle on the nose as on the mains...simple and elegent and I bet its less weight too! The bearings are (or were on my kit the same size). For me I drilled out the nose axle threads and passed a 5/16hts bolt all the way through...Much better but a main axle would be even better than this. Frank -----Original Message----- From: charles.long@gm.com [mailto:charles.long@gm.com] Subject: Zenith-List: Wheel Forks for 601 HDS & Instrument panel drawings --> Zenith-List message posted by: charles.long@gm.com Hi everyone. Was working on the Main landing gear forks from my kit > yesterday and everything was going so well that I decided to finish > off the Nose gear > fork as well. Well wouldn't you know it, just after I finished it, I found a > note in the plans - "Nose gear gets a 5/16" diameter axle hole" > rather than the > 5/8" used on the main gear. Now I have three perfectly good Main gear forks! > Is there is anyone out there willing to swap a raw Wheel Fork & > Doubler (6-L-1-3 & 6-L-!-3HD) for the finished ones? It will save you > 2 or 3 hours work > and I will throw in the 5/8" drill bit required to drill the axle > holes (cost > $16 & has a 1/2" reduced shank). Will also pay all shipping costs. Thanks > > On another subject, if anyone is interested in an Autocad > drawing for > the instrument panel shown in the last issue of the Zenith newsletter, send me > an e-mail off line. Also have a powerpoint file with the panel > drawing imported and all kinds of instrument pictures pasted in. Can > be very handy for > arranging the panel layout to get just the right look. > > Chuck Long, > HDS, Airframe 90% complete advertising on the Matronics Forums. Share: Share photos & files with other List members. ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 10:38:39 AM PST US From: Benford2@aol.com Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Wheel Forks for 601 HDS & Instrument panel drawings --> Zenith-List message posted by: Benford2@aol.com In a message dated 7/28/2003 11:32:25 AM Mountain Daylight Time, ggower_99@yahoo.com writes: > Hi everyone. Was working on the Main landing gear forks from > > my > > kit > > > yesterday and everything was going so well that I decided to finish > > off > > the Nose gear > > > fork as well. Well wouldn't you know it, just after I finished it, > > I > > found a > > > note in the plans - "Nose gear gets a 5/16" diameter axle hole" > > rather > > than the > > > 5/8" used on the main gear. Now I have three perfectly good Main > > gear > > forks! > > > Is there is anyone out there willing to swap a raw Wheel Fork & > > Doubler > > > (6-L-1-3 & 6-L-!-3HD) for the finished ones? It will save you 2 or > > 3 > > hours work > > > and I will throw in the 5/8" drill bit required to drill the axle > > holes > > (cost > > > $16 & has a 1/2" reduced shank). Will also pay all shipping costs. > > Thanks > > > > > > On another I find it hard to believe a front axle bolt is only 5/16". ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 11:03:45 AM PST US From: Leo Gates Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Gas Tank Cork --> Zenith-List message posted by: Leo Gates H. Robert Schoenberger wrote: >--> Zenith-List message posted by: "H. Robert Schoenberger" > >List . . . I am ready to install the fuel tank in the right wing on my 701. What is the best product for cementing the cork to the tank? Hap Schoenberger > > I used Pliobond. ACS has it. Some MEK will allow you to remove it, if need be. Leo Gates ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 11:49:51 AM PST US From: Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Wheel Forks for 601 HDS & Instrument panel drawings --> Zenith-List message posted by: Get some 5/8" steel tubing, thread the ends and use as the axle. Better than the original supplied. Jerry Jensen -----Original Message----- From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Benford2@aol.com Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Wheel Forks for 601 HDS & Instrument panel drawings --> Zenith-List message posted by: Benford2@aol.com In a message dated 7/28/2003 11:32:25 AM Mountain Daylight Time, ggower_99@yahoo.com writes: > Hi everyone. Was working on the Main landing gear forks from > > my > > kit > > > yesterday and everything was going so well that I decided to finish > > off > > the Nose gear > > > fork as well. Well wouldn't you know it, just after I finished it, > > I > > found a > > > note in the plans - "Nose gear gets a 5/16" diameter axle hole" > > rather > > than the > > > 5/8" used on the main gear. Now I have three perfectly good Main > > gear > > forks! > > > Is there is anyone out there willing to swap a raw Wheel Fork & > > Doubler > > > (6-L-1-3 & 6-L-!-3HD) for the finished ones? It will save you 2 or > > 3 > > hours work > > > and I will throw in the 5/8" drill bit required to drill the axle > > holes > > (cost > > > $16 & has a 1/2" reduced shank). Will also pay all shipping costs. ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 12:51:59 PM PST US From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com --> Zenith-List message posted by: From: "HINDE,FRANK (HP-Corvallis,ex1)" Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Wheel Forks for 601 HDS & Instrument panel drawi ngs Good idea but be careful what you use. You really want seamless tubing with a decent wall thickness. I suspect the originals are 4130. There is hardly any load on the nose wheel but don't go using seamed tubing like gas pipe...Not that I've ever seen 5/8ths gas pipe of course...:) Frank -----Original Message----- From: jensenm33@sbcglobal.net [mailto:jensenm33@sbcglobal.net] Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Wheel Forks for 601 HDS & Instrument panel drawings --> Zenith-List message posted by: Get some 5/8" steel tubing, thread the ends and use as the axle. Better than the original supplied. Jerry Jensen -----Original Message----- From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Benford2@aol.com Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Wheel Forks for 601 HDS & Instrument panel drawings --> Zenith-List message posted by: Benford2@aol.com In a message dated 7/28/2003 11:32:25 AM Mountain Daylight Time, ggower_99@yahoo.com writes: > Hi everyone. Was working on the Main landing gear forks from > > my > > kit > > > yesterday and everything was going so well that I decided to finish > > off > > the Nose gear > > > fork as well. Well wouldn't you know it, just after I finished it, > > I > > found a > > > note in the plans - "Nose gear gets a 5/16" diameter axle hole" > > rather > > than the > > > 5/8" used on the main gear. Now I have three perfectly good Main > > gear > > forks! > > > Is there is anyone out there willing to swap a raw Wheel Fork & > > Doubler > > > (6-L-1-3 & 6-L-!-3HD) for the finished ones? It will save you 2 or > > 3 > > hours work > > > and I will throw in the 5/8" drill bit required to drill the axle > > holes > > (cost > > > $16 & has a 1/2" reduced shank). Will also pay all shipping costs. advertising on the Matronics Forums. Share: Share photos & files with other List members. ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 12:56:22 PM PST US From: "George Swinford" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Gas Tank Cork --> Zenith-List message posted by: "George Swinford" Robert: I used "Goop" which I found packaged in a tube at the home supply/hardware store. Smells bad while curing, but sticks like the dickens. George ----- Original Message ----- From: "H. Robert Schoenberger" Subject: Zenith-List: Gas Tank Cork > --> Zenith-List message posted by: "H. Robert Schoenberger" > > List . . . I am ready to install the fuel tank in the right wing on my 701. What is the best product for cementing the cork to the tank? Hap Schoenberger > > ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 01:43:23 PM PST US From: Gary Gower Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Front wheel axle. Option? --> Zenith-List message posted by: Gary Gower Got a thought about the comment about the tube as an axle (a good wall sized tube, of course). It's a good idea, when installed this way, the tube holes in the sides could be used to attach the red "puller" to the axle and move the plane inside the hangar, or better, tow the plane to the platform with the 4 X 4 "bike" (cuatrimoto is in spanish, but can't find it in the dictionary)... More important for the 701, the tail cone is to high to lean over it to lighten the front wheel to turn it. Saludos Gary Gower. --- owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com wrote: > --> Zenith-List message posted by: > > From: "HINDE,FRANK (HP-Corvallis,ex1)" > To: "'zenith-list@matronics.com'" > Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Wheel Forks for 601 HDS & Instrument panel > drawi > ngs > Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 12:51:09 -0700 > > Good idea but be careful what you use. You really want seamless > tubing with > a decent wall thickness. I suspect the originals are 4130. > > There is hardly any load on the nose wheel but don't go using seamed > tubing > like gas pipe...Not that I've ever seen 5/8ths gas pipe of > course...:) > > Frank > > -----Original Message----- > From: jensenm33@sbcglobal.net [mailto:jensenm33@sbcglobal.net] > To: zenith-list@matronics.com > Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Wheel Forks for 601 HDS & Instrument panel > drawings > > > --> Zenith-List message posted by: > > > Get some 5/8" steel tubing, thread the ends and use as the axle. > Better than > the original supplied. > > Jerry Jensen > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of > Benford2@aol.com > To: zenith-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Wheel Forks for 601 HDS & Instrument panel > drawings > > --> Zenith-List message posted by: Benford2@aol.com > > In a message dated 7/28/2003 11:32:25 AM Mountain Daylight Time, > ggower_99@yahoo.com writes: > > > > Hi everyone. Was working on the Main landing gear forks from > > > my > > > kit > > > > yesterday and everything was going so well that I decided to > finish > > > off > > > the Nose gear > > > > fork as well. Well wouldn't you know it, just after I finished > it, > > > I > > > found a > > > > note in the plans - "Nose gear gets a 5/16" diameter axle > hole" > > > rather > > > than the > > > > 5/8" used on the main gear. Now I have three perfectly good > Main > > > gear > > > forks! > > > > Is there is anyone out there willing to swap a raw Wheel Fork > & > > > Doubler > > > > (6-L-1-3 & 6-L-!-3HD) for the finished ones? It will save you > 2 > or > > > 3 > > > hours work > > > > and I will throw in the 5/8" drill bit required to drill the > axle > > > holes > > > (cost > > > > $16 & has a 1/2" reduced shank). Will also pay all shipping > costs. > > > advertising on the Matronics Forums. > Share: Share photos & files with other List members. > > > > > > > > __________________________________ http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 02:50:46 PM PST US From: "Larry McFarland" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Gas Tank Cork --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Larry McFarland" Subject: Zenith-List: Gas Tank Cork > --> Zenith-List message posted by: "H. Robert Schoenberger" > > List . . . I am ready to install the fuel tank in the right wing on my 701. What is the best product for cementing the cork to the tank? Hap Schoenberger > Hap, I used a spray 3-M adhesive that is commonly used to secure 12" sanding disks to a large sander. It's pretty good stuff, and controllable spray too but it still pays to do it over paper when you use it. Larry McFarland - 601hds ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 03:05:30 PM PST US From: "Larry McFarland" Subject: Zenith-List: Radiator cooling boost? --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Larry McFarland" HI list, Recently someone on the list suggested there was some air assist coming from the rock guard on his radiator and I decided to try out louvers as rock guard and air boost. Odd, that my feable attempts to do a tuft test proved that more air can be had on the downside of that radiator. The kleenex strips lifted well above the louvers with the fan set on high. Will be interesting to see what happens at 100mph. Larry McFarland - 601hds @ www.macsmachine.com ________________________________ Message 23 ____________________________________ Time: 04:09:28 PM PST US From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com --> Zenith-List message posted by: From: "HINDE,FRANK (HP-Corvallis,ex1)" Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Radiator cooling boost? Interesting, It looks like there is a degree of lift as the air goes up and over the top of the rad. I bet If you made a pressure recovery duct for the inlet that this would work pretty well. Its just a shame it has to dangle down so much under the fuse. Have you closed the gap next to the prop spinner as much as you can? If you think about it you only need a very small opening for carb air and to carry away the exhaust heat. Frank -----Original Message----- From: Larry McFarland [mailto:larrymc@qconline.com] Subject: Zenith-List: Radiator cooling boost? --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Larry McFarland" --> HI list, Recently someone on the list suggested there was some air assist coming from the rock guard on his radiator and I decided to try out louvers as rock guard and air boost. Odd, that my feable attempts to do a tuft test proved that more air can be had on the downside of that radiator. The kleenex strips lifted well above the louvers with the fan set on high. Will be interesting to see what happens at 100mph. Larry McFarland - 601hds @ www.macsmachine.com advertising on the Matronics Forums. Share: Share photos & files with other List members. ________________________________ Message 24 ____________________________________ Time: 06:54:51 PM PST US From: "Larry McFarland" Subject: Zenith-List: Re: --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Larry McFarland" I'm looking at the cluttered hose end and sorting what might smooth it out Havn't gotten to the cowl yet, but it will see some rework. Kinda like the radiator back there though. It does hang out a bit, but in the middle of the belly, I think it actually looks better. Lord knows what kind of performance it'll yield. Larry > Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Radiator cooling boost? > Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 16:08:56 -0700 > > Interesting, It looks like there is a degree of lift as the air goes up and > over the top of the rad. I bet If you made a pressure recovery duct for the > inlet that this would work pretty well. > > Its just a shame it has to dangle down so much under the fuse. Have you > closed the gap next to the prop spinner as much as you can? If you think > about it you only need a very small opening for carb air and to carry away > the exhaust heat. > > > Frank > Recently someone on the list suggested there was some air assist coming from > the rock guard on his radiator and I decided to try out louvers as rock > guard and air boost. Odd, that my feable attempts to do a tuft test proved > that more air can be had on the downside of that radiator. The kleenex > strips lifted well above the louvers with the fan set on high. Will be > interesting to see what happens at 100mph. Larry McFarland - 601hds @ > www.macsmachine.com > >