---------------------------------------------------------- Zenith-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 07/30/03: 24 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 02:21 AM - Marvel Schebler Carburettor (Clive Richards) 2. 07:14 AM - 601HD project for sale (Bill Steer) 3. 07:59 AM - ZAC Subaru cowl and engine mount for sale (Paul Hartl) 4. 10:55 AM - Couple of 701 questions (Brendan Bartlett) 5. 11:19 AM - IVO Prop (Thilo Kind) 6. 12:43 PM - Electric FLAPeron control for the CH701 (owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com) 7. 01:16 PM - Re: Couple of 701 questions (owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com) 8. 01:22 PM - Dual radiators... (Grant Corriveau) 9. 01:51 PM - attn 701 bldrs (Flydog1966@aol.com) 10. 02:10 PM - Re: (Hal Rozema) 11. 02:57 PM - Re: Couple of 701 questions (owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com) 12. 03:40 PM - crawling into aft fuselage (George Swinford) 13. 04:13 PM - Re: Dual radiators... (Gary Gower) 14. 04:24 PM - Re: crawling into aft fuselage (Pinneo, George) 15. 04:25 PM - Re: attn 701 bldrs (Gary Gower) 16. 04:26 PM - Re: flap control/indicator (Gayla Lemley) 17. 04:46 PM - Re: Dual radiators... (Grant Corriveau) 18. 05:01 PM - A poem (Scott Laughlin) 19. 05:15 PM - Re: Marvel Schebler Carburettor (ZodiacBuilder@aol.com) 20. 05:17 PM - Re: Dual radiators... (Carlos Sa) 21. 06:38 PM - 701/912 radiator hose (Ronnie Koonce) 22. 06:44 PM - Re: attn 701 bldrs (Ken Szewc) 23. 07:48 PM - Re: 701 for sale anyone? (Robert Hillebrand) 24. 08:14 PM - Re: A poem (Mark Townsend) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 02:21:29 AM PST US From: "Clive Richards" Subject: Zenith-List: Marvel Schebler Carburettor --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Clive Richards" Hi List Ray Lasnier has a Marvel Shebler MA-3SPA Carburettor Part No 104894 on his Continental 0-200 Any body know where we can get information as to the Max Minimum Designe Fuel pressure ? It also has 12S18D5 stamped on the side of the accelerator pump. Do not archive Clive Richards ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 07:14:31 AM PST US From: "Bill Steer" Subject: Zenith-List: 601HD project for sale --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Bill Steer" A friend, who is scratch-building a 601HD, has decided to sell his project. The workmanship on it is excellent. His asking price is $4500. It's located in midcoast Maine. If anybody is interested or knows someone who's searching for a project, please contact him directly at twilson@clinic.net. Bill Do not archive ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:59:58 AM PST US From: "Paul Hartl" Subject: Zenith-List: ZAC Subaru cowl and engine mount for sale --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Paul Hartl" I have a ZAC-made fiberglass cowl and engine mount for a 601 Subaru EA-81 (Stratus, but maybe other conversions, too) for sale. Never been used, of course. ZAC gets $445 for each, and I'm willing to take a hit on these for anyone needing one or the other. I believe (but am not certain) that this is the same cowl ZAC supplies for the Rotax 912, except that it comes with a scoop and two side blisters that need to be glassed on; I think it is ready to go for the Rotax as is. Paul Paul Hartl, 601HDS, Jabiru 3300 Tail, rear fuse, wings completed;fuselage nearly complete FS2002 Aircraft Website: http://home.mindspring.com/~pdhartl/ email: pdhartl@mindspring.com or paul_hartl@communityschool.org Sun Valley, Idaho 208-788-9147 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 10:55:40 AM PST US From: Brendan Bartlett Subject: Zenith-List: Couple of 701 questions --> Zenith-List message posted by: Brendan Bartlett Hello, I'm interested in possibly building a CH701 in Canada (Brampton)...right now I'm in the process of getting my Private Pilot's License. Before I start anything, I have a couple of questions I hope someone on the list might have the answers to: 1) is the cruise of 80 mph with a Rotax 912 accurate? I'm planning of installing a 100hp 912S. 2) I haven't decided if I want a kit or to build scratch from plans...how much time do I save with the kit? Is it worth it? I'm probably going to start building in a basement and if I go the plans route I'm planning to fabricate parts I can ship out to my final assembly area (which I don't have yet). If it takes 4 years, part-time, I'm fine with it. 3) this question sounds crazy, and if it is, great let me know. Is it possible to carry a small (14 foot, kevlar, 42 lb) canoe on a float equipped CH701? Obviously this affects the aerodynamics of the airplane, but would it still be flyable and would the canoe survive after landing? 4) has anyone tried pressure actived leading edge slats? I found a company offering them at http://www.dedaliusaviation.com/newdedalius/anglais.htm. They sound impressive, but I'm not sure they're worth the 20% improvement in cruise speed when you consider the extra equipment you have on your wing. Ideally, what I want is a good easy to fly airplane which can be used as a rugged bush plane for Northern Ontario and I can still use it for the occasional cross-country (500 km) flight...I think the 701 fits the bill pretty well. If I had the cash, I would go for a Beaver or Twin Otter, but I don't!! I wouldn't want the gph burn rate of those airplanes either. Thanks for any and all info.... - Brendan Bartlett ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 11:19:31 AM PST US From: "Thilo Kind" Subject: Zenith-List: IVO Prop --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Thilo Kind" Hi folks, for those of you flying with the IVO prop: what type of prop are you using for the CH601 HDS / Rotax 912? Am I coreect assuming, that the 3 blade 68'' inflight-adjustable Ultralight prop is the right one? How satisfied are you with the prop in terms of performance and maintenance? Somewhere I heard, that there is a problem with the brushes and the slip ring (getting dirty and causing poor electrical connection)? Thanks Thilo Kind ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 12:43:07 PM PST US From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com --> Zenith-List message posted by: From: "Ashcraft, Keith -AES" Subject: Electric FLAPeron control for the CH701 All Ch701 builder/fliers, Although I am not even close to this point yet on my project, but, has anyone ever built, or thought about building, an electric flap control for the 701? I think I remember reading on somebody's website about the thought. Also, according to the plans, there are only 2 postions for the flaps, UP and Down. I have seen some photos that show a medium (1/2) setting, plus, the article on the Zenith website http://www.zenithair.com/kit-data/701-ms.html talks about using 1/2 flaps to get a feel of how the airplane handles. Any information on this? Thanks, Keith Do not archive & ignore the boilerplate info that gets appended automatically at the end. -- ************************************* Keith Ashcraft Colorado N 38 59.5014' W 105 08.0951' ALT. 9100' CH701 plans/kit tail 90% keith.ashcraft@itt.com ************************************ If this email is not intended for you, or you are not responsible for the delivery of this message to the addressee, please note that this message may contain ITT Privileged/Proprietary Information. In such a case, you may not copy or deliver this message to anyone. You should destroy this message and kindly notify the sender by reply email. Information contained in this message that does not relate to the business of ITT is neither endorsed by nor attributable to ITT. ************************************ ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 01:16:20 PM PST US From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com --> Zenith-List message posted by: From: "Ashcraft, Keith -AES" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Couple of 701 questions Hi Brendan, 4) has anyone tried pressure actived leading edge slats? I found a company offering them at http://www.dedaliusaviation.com/newdedalius/anglais.htm . They sound impressive, but I'm not sure they're worth the 20% improvement in cruise speed when you consider the extra equipment you have on your wing. It seems that I remember somewhere that the improved cruise performance is not that high, (only a couple of knots, not 20%) The website quotes " Our Pega Stol wing WILL increase the cruising speed by + or - 20% and improve all other aerodynamic performances accordingly." notice the WILL increase. These implies that they have not achieved it yet. This 20% improvement would reduce my flying time by 1 hr. on a 500 mile flight!! Also, if just the wing will improve this cruise performance, then think about cleaning up all the other parasitic drag on the rest of the plane, and we should be be able to increase it by another 20%, so an 80mph cruise just turned into a 112mph cruise. They are also stating that the wing weighs the same as the original Zenith wing. Now this information might be correct, but the way it looks to me, is, the numbers are something that they are hoping for. But remember, the CH701 is designed to be a dependable, durable, easy to build, STOL plane. If anybody has other information about the performance on this wing, then I will be all for changing my building process and pursue obtaining more information on these wings. Chris states in his Airfoils, Part 3 design college, http://www.zenithair.com/kit-data/ht-87-8.html to keep is simple and works without problems. Thanks, Keith Do not archive & ignore the boilerplate info that gets appended automatically at the end. -- ************************************* Keith Ashcraft Colorado N 38 59.5014' W 105 08.0951' ALT. 9100' CH701 plans/kit tail 90% keith.ashcraft@itt.com ************************************ If this email is not intended for you, or you are not responsible for the delivery of this message to the addressee, please note that this message may contain ITT Privileged/Proprietary Information. In such a case, you may not copy or deliver this message to anyone. You should destroy this message and kindly notify the sender by reply email. Information contained in this message that does not relate to the business of ITT is neither endorsed by nor attributable to ITT. ************************************ ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 01:22:40 PM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: Dual radiators... From: Grant Corriveau --> Zenith-List message posted by: Grant Corriveau When using a dual radiator setup, is there a preference for series vs. parallel connection? I'm thinking of putting a pair of motorcycle radiators on my CAM100 (Honda conversion), either in each corner of the cowling, or maybe one in each wing root. Series would be less plumbing ... I'm moving my 'chin' mounted rad. It's been working fine wrt keeping engine coolant within limits, but the dumping of hot air into the engine room has led to other complications. Thanks -- Grant Corriveau C-GHTF / Zodiac 601 HDS / CAM100 ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 01:51:51 PM PST US From: Flydog1966@aol.com Subject: Zenith-List: attn 701 bldrs --> Zenith-List message posted by: Flydog1966@aol.com I'm at the point when I have to crawl into the 701 rear fuselage to put in gussetts. Zenith manual says to put down padding to protect the bottom skin. Did anyone use a better techniqe? Anyone do it this way with no problems? Thanks Phil ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 02:10:23 PM PST US From: Hal Rozema Subject: Zenith-List: Re: --> Zenith-List message posted by: Hal Rozema If your cruise is within 8 to 10 mph of the VNE a 20% increase in speed would blow your wings off... Good luck. HP will increase the take-off and climb performance, or will drag floats around a bit quicker, but suggest you not build a 701 for fast cross countries. Other planes do that. Other planes that require a 1000 ft paved runway and climb 7 or 800 FPM owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com wrote: > --> Zenith-List message posted by: > > From: "Ashcraft, Keith -AES" > To: zenith-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Couple of 701 questions > Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 15:15:47 -0500 > > Hi Brendan, > > 4) has anyone tried pressure actived leading edge slats? I found a company > offering them at http://www.dedaliusaviation.com/newdedalius/anglais.htm > . > > They sound impressive, but I'm not sure they're worth the 20% improvement in > cruise speed when you consider the extra equipment you have on your wing. > > It seems that I remember somewhere that the improved cruise performance is > not that high, (only a couple of knots, not 20%) The website quotes " Our > Pega Stol wing WILL increase the cruising speed by + or - 20% and improve > all other aerodynamic performances accordingly." notice the WILL increase. > These implies that they have not achieved it yet. This 20% improvement would > reduce my flying time by 1 hr. on a 500 mile flight!! Also, if just the wing > will improve this cruise performance, then think about cleaning up all the > other parasitic drag on the rest of the plane, and we should be be able to > increase it by another 20%, so an 80mph cruise just turned into a 112mph > cruise. They are also stating that the wing weighs the same as the original > Zenith wing. Now this information might be correct, but the way it looks to > me, is, the numbers are something that they are hoping for. But remember, > the CH701 is designed to be a dependable, durable, easy to build, STOL > plane. If anybody has other information about the performance on this wing, > then I will be all for changing my building process and pursue obtaining > more information on these wings. > > Chris states in his Airfoils, Part 3 design college, > http://www.zenithair.com/kit-data/ht-87-8.html > to keep is simple and > works without problems. > > Thanks, > Keith > > Do not archive & ignore the boilerplate info that gets appended > automatically at the end. > -- > ************************************* > Keith Ashcraft > Colorado > N 38 59.5014' > W 105 08.0951' > ALT. 9100' > > CH701 plans/kit tail 90% > keith.ashcraft@itt.com > > ************************************ > If this email is not intended for you, or you are not responsible for the > delivery of this message to the addressee, please note that this message may > contain ITT Privileged/Proprietary Information. In such a case, you may not > copy or deliver this message to anyone. You should destroy this message and > kindly notify the sender by reply email. Information contained in this > message that does not relate to the business of ITT is neither endorsed by > nor attributable to ITT. > ************************************ > ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 02:57:13 PM PST US From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com --> Zenith-List message posted by: From: "Ashcraft, Keith -AES" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Couple of 701 questions Good point Hal!! With the wings ripped off, STOL might stand for Steep TerminatedOffensiveLanding, and all the up elevator won't help:) Keith ************************************* Keith Ashcraft Colorado N 38 59.5014' W 105 08.0951' ALT. 9100' CH701 plans/kit tail 90% keith.ashcraft@itt.com > Hal Rozema wrote: --> Zenith-List message posted by: Hal Rozema If your cruise is within 8 to 10 mph of the VNE a 20% increase in speed would blow your wings off... Good luck. HP will increase the take-off and climb performance, or will drag floats around a bit quicker, but suggest you not build a 701 for fast cross countries. Other planes do that. Other planes that require a 1000 ft paved runway and climb 7 or 800 FPM owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com wrote: > --> Zenith-List message posted by: > > From: "Ashcraft, Keith -AES" > To: zenith-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Couple of 701 questions > Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 15:15:47 -0500 > > Hi Brendan, > > 4) has anyone tried pressure actived leading edge slats? I found a company > offering them at http://www.dedaliusaviation.com/newdedalius/anglais.htm > > . > > They sound impressive, but I'm not sure they're worth the 20% improvement in > cruise speed when you consider the extra equipment you have on your wing. > > It seems that I remember somewhere that the improved cruise performance is > not that high, (only a couple of knots, not 20%) The website quotes " Our > Pega Stol wing WILL increase the cruising speed by + or - 20% and improve > all other aerodynamic performances accordingly." notice the WILL increase. > These implies that they have not achieved it yet. This 20% improvement would > reduce my flying time by 1 hr. on a 500 mile flight!! Also, if just the wing > will improve this cruise performance, then think about cleaning up all the > other parasitic drag on the rest of the plane, and we should be be able to > increase it by another 20%, so an 80mph cruise just turned into a 112mph > cruise. They are also stating that the wing weighs the same as the original > Zenith wing. Now this information might be correct, but the way it looks to > me, is, the numbers are something that they are hoping for. But remember, > the CH701 is designed to be a dependable, durable, easy to build, STOL > plane. If anybody has other information about the performance on this wing, > then I will be all for changing my building process and pursue obtaining > more information on these wings. > > Chris states in his Airfoils, Part 3 design college, > http://www.zenithair.com/kit-data/ht-87-8.html > > to keep is simple and > works without problems. > > Thanks, > Keith > > Do not archive & ignore the boilerplate info that gets appended > automatically at the end. > -- > ************************************* > Keith Ashcraft > Colorado > N 38 59.5014' > W 105 08.0951' > ALT. 9100' > > CH701 plans/kit tail 90% > keith.ashcraft@itt.com > > > ************************************ > If this email is not intended for you, or you are not responsible for the > delivery of this message to the addressee, please note that this message may > contain ITT Privileged/Proprietary Information. In such a case, you may not > copy or deliver this message to anyone. You should destroy this message and > kindly notify the sender by reply email. Information contained in this > message that does not relate to the business of ITT is neither endorsed by > nor attributable to ITT. > ************************************ > -- ************************************* Keith Ashcraft ITT Industries Advanced Engineering & Sciences 5009 Centennial Blvd. Colorado Springs, CO 80919 (719) 599-1787 -- work (719) 332-4364 -- cell keith.ashcraft@itt.com ************************************ If this email is not intended for you, or you are not responsible for the delivery of this message to the addressee, please note that this message may contain ITT Privileged/Proprietary Information. In such a case, you may not copy or deliver this message to anyone. You should destroy this message and kindly notify the sender by reply email. Information contained in this message that does not relate to the business of ITT is neither endorsed by nor attributable to ITT. ************************************ ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 03:40:12 PM PST US From: "George Swinford" Subject: Zenith-List: crawling into aft fuselage --> Zenith-List message posted by: "George Swinford" Phil: When I had to get back into my 601 aft fuselage I put down a piece of 3/8 ply salvaged from the crate it came in. Worked OK, no damage to me or the airplane.I let it rest on the .025 angles which run across the bottom skin. George ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 04:13:52 PM PST US From: Gary Gower Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Dual radiators... --> Zenith-List message posted by: Gary Gower Grant, In our next project, the 601 XL, we are planning to use the Jab 3000 so no water cooling instalation. But in your position I will go towards one radiator in each wing root, like the Spitfire. I read that is more efective in cooling while taxing, also they look very cool in that position... Saludos Gary Gower. --- Grant Corriveau wrote: > --> Zenith-List message posted by: Grant Corriveau > > > When using a dual radiator setup, is there a preference for series > vs. > parallel connection? I'm thinking of putting a pair of motorcycle > radiators > on my CAM100 (Honda conversion), either in each corner of the > cowling, or > maybe one in each wing root. Series would be less plumbing ... > > I'm moving my 'chin' mounted rad. It's been working fine wrt keeping > engine > coolant within limits, but the dumping of hot air into the engine > room has > led to other complications. > > Thanks > > -- > Grant Corriveau > C-GHTF / Zodiac 601 HDS / CAM100 > > > > > > > > __________________________________ http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 04:24:26 PM PST US Subject: RE: Zenith-List: crawling into aft fuselage From: "Pinneo, George" --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Pinneo, George" You may wish to install a roughly 12" x 12" access hatch for future work like antennae, cable maintenance. Mine is in the 601 HDS left sideskin; some have put them in the bottom skin. I would never attempt to crawl into the tailcone: it's not designed for such abuse! GGP ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 04:25:13 PM PST US From: Gary Gower Subject: Re: Zenith-List: attn 701 bldrs --> Zenith-List message posted by: Gary Gower We did not find any problem this way, because the rear fuselage is flat (well almost) in the table, the padding worked OK for the plane and the "rear End". Well, a big guy will no be very confortable working inside that "airconditioning duct" :-) :-) Saludos Gary Gower --- Flydog1966@aol.com wrote: > --> Zenith-List message posted by: Flydog1966@aol.com > > I'm at the point when I have to crawl into the 701 rear fuselage to > put in > gussetts. > Zenith manual says to put down padding to protect the bottom > skin. > Did anyone use a better techniqe? Anyone do it this way with no > > problems? > > Thanks > Phil > > > > > > > > __________________________________ http://search.yahoo.com ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 04:26:24 PM PST US From: "Gayla Lemley" Subject: Zenith-List: Re: flap control/indicator --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Gayla Lemley" From the archives, the question answered is about an indicator but he appears to be using a wiper motor to move the flaps. You can try contacting him directly. I think he quit monitoring the list after completing his 701. Sam(701) do not archive Match: #2 Message: #1983 Date: Feb 05, 1998 From: Plathey Subject: Flap Pos`n Indicator KnNY wrote: > I am in search of a flap position indicator. Ken. I can give you a simple circuit I've made, with a potentiometer as a sensor. I replaced the 3 position flap command with an electric one : a wiper motor, a threaded rod and 2 limit switches under the left seat. The circuit is a ICL 7106 which reads a linear pot and drives two 7-seg LEDS, which gives (by adjusting the input) the flap value directly in degrees, plus a 12V to 5V converter to feed the chips. Cost : 40$. But since my scanner is dead, I'll fax you the drawing if you give me your fax nb (event' by direct e-mail). Claude Plathey 701 has > anyone ever built, or thought about building, an electric flap control for > the 701? I think I remember reading on somebody's website about the thought. > Also, according to the plans, there are only 2 postions for the flaps, UP > and Down. I have seen some photos that show a medium (1/2) setting, plus, > the article on the Zenith website > http://www.zenithair.com/kit-data/701-ms.html > talks about using 1/2 flaps > to get a feel of how the airplane handles. Any information on this? ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 04:46:40 PM PST US Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Dual radiators... From: Grant Corriveau --> Zenith-List message posted by: Grant Corriveau The heat from the chin-mounted rad was causing damage to my Hall EFfect sensors -- there seems to be a degradation to the epoxy used to hold them in place, and even some physical damage as if there has been a loss of 'gap' at some point and the sensor has been touched by the magnet. This along with the general effects of excessive heat under the cowl (fuel vaporization possibilities; wear and tear on other components...) has convinced me to go ahead and try my radiator idea. Even better than 'under' the wing, I'm looking at INSIDE the wing. The HD/HDS wings have that natural 'bay' just outboard of the gear legs where the wing attach brakets are accessible. There is plenty of room in here for a 6 or 8" by 18 or 20" radiator. One on each side will give me more than the manufacturer's recommeded 200 sq. inches. A NACA duct on the bottom of the wing, and a venting surface on top - in the gap cover that we fabricate for this area - located in the zone of max. lift should produce a positive lifting of air through the radiator. The good thing is that at high angles of attack with max. wing lift, there will also be maximum airflow through the radiator, which seems ideal. (So hopefully no scoops at all will be required). While on the ground the engine isn't producing maximum heat, but the key factor may be if there is still enough rising of air through the rad to keep things cool during long taxi times, etc... Thanks for the encouragement - I'll keep you posted - but you'll have to stay tuned - I'm a slow worker ;-) -- Grant Corriveau C-GHTF / HDS / CAM100 > --> Zenith-List message posted by: Gary Gower > > Grant, > > In our next project, the 601 XL, we are planning to use the Jab 3000 so > no water cooling instalation. But in your position I will go towards > one radiator in each wing root, like the Spitfire. I read that is more > efective in cooling while taxing, also they look very cool in that > position... ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 05:01:40 PM PST US From: "Scott Laughlin" Subject: Zenith-List: A poem --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Scott Laughlin" Here I sit all sad and downtrodden Wishing I was there, over in Wisconsin Checking my email- nothing but SPAM My buddies are at Oshkosh, how sad I AM! No Emails to see, I surf over to Ebay And what do I find, what a surprise I say! Someone has given up a dream and lots of fun, Selling a partial kit of a CH701! http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=26438&item=2426036386 For everyone unable to go to Oshkosh, have a good evening and lets plan on being there next year. Scott Laughlin www.cooknwithgas.com ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 05:15:18 PM PST US From: ZodiacBuilder@aol.com Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Marvel Schebler Carburettor --> Zenith-List message posted by: ZodiacBuilder@aol.com In a message dated 7/30/2003 5:21:59 AM Eastern Standard Time, stephen@crichards.flyer.co.uk writes: > Hi List > Ray Lasnier has a Marvel Shebler MA-3SPA Carburettor Part No 104894 on his > Continental 0-200 > Any body know where we can get information as to the Max Minimum Designe > Fuel pressure ? > It also has 12S18D5 stamped on the side of the accelerator pump. > > I can tell you...I have the manual on that model... 4psi min 6psi max John W. Tarabocchia http:\\hometown.aol.com\Zodiacbuilder ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 05:17:46 PM PST US From: Carlos Sa Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Dual radiators... --> Zenith-List message posted by: Carlos Sa Hi, Grant Cool idea, but how would that affect lift? Carlos > Even better than 'under' the wing, I'm looking at INSIDE the wing. The > HD/HDS wings have that natural 'bay' just outboard of the gear legs where > the wing attach brakets are accessible. There is plenty of room in here for > a 6 or 8" by 18 or 20" radiator. One on each side will give me more than > the manufacturer's recommeded 200 sq. inches. A NACA duct on the bottom of > the wing, and a venting surface on top - in the gap cover that we fabricate > for this area - located in the zone of max. lift should produce a positive > lifting of air through the radiator. The good thing is that at high angles > of attack with max. wing lift, there will also be maximum airflow through > the radiator, which seems ideal. (So hopefully no scoops at all will be > required). ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 06:38:54 PM PST US From: "Ronnie Koonce" Subject: Zenith-List: 701/912 radiator hose --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Ronnie Koonce" Found a formed hose for the right side that works pretty well with a little trimming. NAPA #8088 ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 06:44:53 PM PST US From: "Ken Szewc" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: attn 701 bldrs --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Ken Szewc" > > I'm at the point when I have to crawl into the 701 rear fuselage to put in > gussetts. > Zenith manual says to put down padding to protect the bottom skin. > Did anyone use a better techniqe? Anyone do it this way with no > problems? > I just went through that process. I put shipping blankets down underneath and inside the fuselage. I folded the one underneath near the back to keep it from rocking. It came out OK with no damage to the bottom skin. I made sure I prepared everything ahead of time and brought it in with me so that I didn't have to go in and out more than once. I don't know if there is a better way to do it. If you have room (height) maybe you could stand it up and support it on the edge of a bench and use a step ladder to get far enough inside. Ken ________________________________ Message 23 ____________________________________ Time: 07:48:18 PM PST US From: Robert Hillebrand Subject: Re: Zenith-List: 701 for sale anyone? --> Zenith-List message posted by: Robert Hillebrand Hello Larry Wher are you located? I may sell my 701 plans built. I live in Illinois Larry H Sirmans wrote: --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Larry H Sirmans" I am looking for a used 701 or an uncompleted kit for sale? If anyone has one or know of one, I'd appreciate hearing from you. Regards, Larry Sirmans --------------------------------- ________________________________ Message 24 ____________________________________ Time: 08:14:33 PM PST US From: "Mark Townsend" <601xl@sympatico.ca> Subject: RE: Zenith-List: A poem --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Mark Townsend" <601xl@sympatico.ca> Very Good Scott. I am also off to Oshkosh, Oh yes I am, For at the airshow I will see no spam. Dinner with Chris I can never miss. See you soon Vroom Vrrrooommmm Vvvrrroommm. Sorry couldn't resist Mark Townsend 601XL EA-82MPFI Turbo Alma, Ontario -----Original Message----- Here I sit all sad and downtrodden Wishing I was there, over in Wisconsin Checking my email- nothing but SPAM My buddies are at Oshkosh, how sad I AM! No Emails to see, I surf over to Ebay And what do I find, what a surprise I say! Someone has given up a dream and lots of fun, Selling a partial kit of a CH701!