Today's Message Index:
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1. 03:20 AM - Starting Pitch (John Livsey)
2. 05:37 AM - Re: Flight Report (The Meiste's)
3. 05:49 AM - Re: Zenith Open Hanger Day (ZODIAC601@aol.com)
4. 06:16 AM - 701 front wing strut alignment (Ronnie Koonce)
5. 06:58 AM - Rotary Engines? (Phil Raker)
6. 08:11 AM - Re: 701 front wing strut alignment (Jon Croke)
7. 08:17 AM - Re: Flight Report (owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com)
8. 10:37 AM - Re: 701 front wing strut alignment (Jim Frisby)
9. 12:00 PM - Re: Flight Report (The Meiste's)
10. 01:35 PM - Saw my 1st Zenith (Doug Waer)
11. 03:15 PM - Re: Saw my 1st Zenith (Larry McFarland)
12. 08:54 PM - Re: XL Axle to landing gear? (Bryan Martin)
13. 10:21 PM - CH300 Wheel pants (Ettore Petaccia)
14. 10:32 PM - electric flaps (barry mayne)
15. 10:32 PM - Re: Starting Pitch (barry mayne)
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: John Livsey <jlivsey@bigpond.com>
Hi List
I would be grateful of any suggestions as to what angle I should
initially setup a warp drive propellor. Details of my setup are,
1. Aircraft CH601 HDS
2. Engine Jabiru 3300
3. Propellor Warp Drive three blade 62"
Thanks in anticipation, john livsey
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| Subject: | Re: Flight Report |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "The Meiste's" <meiste@essex1.com>
Dave,
My Stratus powered HD did the same thing when new, took a lot of tweaking to
get it under control.
Here are a few tips that seemed to help me the most:
1. Slow down .... keep it around 3,800 RPM until you start getting things
under control.
2. Cut away as much of the lower cowl as possible (as you dare).
3. Also my lip actually made my temps higher so I ended up removing it.
Kelly
601 HD (60 hrs)
> CH 601 HDS tailwheel N928DN Self built subaru EA81.
> 3rd Flight today. Out side temp. was about 75.Engine still running warm.
Installed new guage, Old guage was all over the place.
> Ivo Prop 3 blade Medium. 4200 RPM GPS shows 121 MPH average. If I push it
faster the temp starts climbing. Been playing with different size lip on
bottom of cowl. 1st small lip seemed to help. Hope to make a smaller lip and
fly agin tomorrow. Sure is fun to fly, Just sit there and think about
turning and the plane almost takes care of the flying it self.
> Great landing gear. Been making simi wheel-stall landing, Feels good in
the plane and everybody watching says looks great
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| Subject: | Re: Zenith Open Hanger Day |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: ZODIAC601@aol.com
KEN SCHMIDT WILL BE THERE !
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| Subject: | 701 front wing strut alignment |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Ronnie Koonce" <rlk@granderiver.net>
Has anyone had any trouble with the alignment of the front wing struts?I have quadruple
checked all af my settings and measurements, and they are difficult to
install, both sides. It seems like my lower tabs needed to be welded in at an
angle, but were not. When I do get them on, they are bowed along the entire
length. Remedies?
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: Phil Raker <phadr1@yahoo.com>
Hi, Mike:
Have you looked into the Mid-West Engines rotaries? They are based on the
1- or 2-rotor wankel-type engines used several years ago in a Norton
motorcycle. The 2-rotor with EFI puts out 105HP from a 122 lbs package! It
should work well in a 701. I almost wish I had chosen to use one of them. You
can find them at: www.avnet.co.uk/midwestengines/
Phil Raker N556P - HDS/Stratus: ~80%
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Mike Fraley" <mike@theautoexpo.com>
Hi! Anyone ever hear of a Rotary (Wankel) type engine / conversion that
produces
around 100hp that might work in a 701? I see plenty in the 150-200 range,
and some around 70hp, but not 100. Not building yet.... just thinking &
researching....
Thanks,
Mike Fraley
mike@theautoexpo.com
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| Subject: | Re: 701 front wing strut alignment |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Jon Croke" <jon@joncroke.com>
I bet they welded the tabs wrong on yours.. They should slip on with no
bind. Call ZAC and describe your problem.... they'll make good on a
replacement set.
Good luck
Jon
N701US 94%
near Green Bay
www.joncroke.com
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From: "Ronnie Koonce" <rlk@granderiver.net>
Subject: Zenith-List: 701 front wing strut alignment
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Ronnie Koonce" <rlk@granderiver.net>
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> Has anyone had any trouble with the alignment of the front wing struts?I
have quadruple checked all af my settings and measurements, and they are
difficult to install, both sides. It seems like my lower tabs needed to be
welded in at an angle, but were not. When I do get them on, they are bowed
along the entire length. Remedies?
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Flight Report |
--> Zenith-List message posted by:
In a message dated 8/17/03 5:38:44 AM US Mountain Standard Time,
meiste@essex1.com writes:
> 3. Also my lip actually made my temps higher so I ended up removing it.
>
>
What do you mean by "LIP"
Steve (getting ready to start building again) (only going to be 109 degrees
in the shade at the hangar today) Freeman!
PS To the people who sent words of encouragemnt, thanks, it really helped!
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| Subject: | Re: 701 front wing strut alignment |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Jim Frisby" <marslander@hotmail.com>
On my CH801, one of the struts was welded up wrong, the left rear strut,
which on the 801 has the upper and lower fittings about 75 degrees rotated
from each other. That rotation angle was 4 degrees different from the right
strut.
ZAC agreed to send me a replacement strut, but that would have taken
considerable time.
At the advice of my IA, and with the concurrence of ZAC, we made up a jig
for the correct angle, heated the strut tube up to dull red, twisted it to
fit the jig, and slow cooled it by backing off the heat for a few minutes.
Worked great and fit fine.
On Bill Wilcox's 801, the fork on the lower end of one strug was misaligned
by a couple degrees longitudnally. We followed a similar procedure to tweak
that angle and got a good fit.
Jim Frisby
Alaska
>Has anyone had any trouble with the alignment of the front wing struts?I
>have quadruple checked all af my settings and measurements, and they are
>difficult to install, both sides. It seems like my lower >tabs needed to be
>welded in at an angle, but were not. When I do get them on, they are bowed
>along the entire length. Remedies?
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| Subject: | Re: Flight Report |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "The Meiste's" <meiste@essex1.com>
> > 3. Also my lip actually made my temps higher so I ended up removing it.
> >
> >
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> What do you mean by "LIP"
Take a look at some lower cowl photos (try ZAC web site). Also check in the
back issues of the Zenith newsletters (the exact # escapes me at the
moment). The lower cowl half have a lip around the rear opening. This lip is
about 45 degrees and about a inch high. This lip is supposed to help pull
the air out of the hot engine compartment. With the Stratus installation
this lip is removed when you added the F/G oil pan scoop. I ended up making
a new one from aluminum but ended up removing it later after finding it made
my engine temps run higher (go figure?).
Kelly
601 HD Stratus
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| Subject: | Saw my 1st Zenith |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Doug Waer <dwaer@yahoo.com>
Well, the subject isn't entirely true. I saw the factory 601XL at Copperstate
last year, but I finally saw a user-built one yesterday.
Two weekends ago, I was driving around the airport (FFZ) trying to meet up with
a friend with a brake and shear I wanted to use. Out from between the hangers
comes a 601HDS taxiing out. You see, at FFZ, RV's are a dime a dozen, but this
Zenith really surprised me. I went to the end of the row only to find that my
friend wasn't "home", and did a U-turn. Got back onto the main taxiway and the
Zenith was GONE! *grumble*
Got in touch with my friend, and asked him to figure out who the Zenith driver
was, if possible. Long story short, I managed to meet up with the him
yesterday morning. David does nice work, and the 601HDS is a clean little
craft, although he was repeating a common theme, "It doesn't go as fast as the
book says it should." (He's got the 80hp Rotax) I got to sit in it too. All
I can say is, "Wow!" I was a little concerned at the "contorted" look of the
seats in the 601 (with the legs over the center spar), but my fears have been
completely destroyed. The seating arrangement in the 601 (and the Y-stick)
feels completely natural and comfortable.
He was already planning on giving rides to some friends that were helping him
polish, so I didn't get to make a pilot report, although one was promised.
Seeing a non-factory Zenith really gave me a renewed sense of ambition,
although I'm a LONG way from completion.
Doug Waer
601HDS/Scratch
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Douglas Waer :: Boeing Helicopter Systems :: Mesa, AZ :: 85215
http://members.cox.net/dwaer/flying.html
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| Subject: | Re: Saw my 1st Zenith |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Larry McFarland" <larrymc@qconline.com>
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: Doug Waer <dwaer@yahoo.com>
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> Doug Waer
> 601HDS/Scratch
Doug,
You've got to get that ride! The comfort level is great and the 601 bubble
view is awsome,
and probably the best thing about the airplane. It's an easy one to fly.
If one just wanted to
go fast, this might be the wrong plane, but I think you can get close to the
advertised speeds with the new
Jabaru 3300. For the scratch builder, this plane is a joy to build.
Larry McFarland - N601EZ (hds scratch build) @ macsmachine.com
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| Subject: | Re: XL Axle to landing gear? |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Bryan Martin <bryanmmartin@comcast.net>
on 8/14/03 10:39 PM, CLOJAN@aol.com at CLOJAN@aol.com wrote:
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: CLOJAN@aol.com
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> Hi Folks: I am about ready to drill the 4 holes to mount the axle to the
> landing gear on the XL. Since ZAC decided to leave out any instruction on
> placement perhaps someone here can help. I have decided that the axle must be
> flush
> with the rear edge of the gear to clear the brake caliper but since the
> "mounting area" of the gear is about 4" long how high should it be from the
> bottom
> edge?
My kit came with Grove wheels and axles, I installed the axles with one of
the flats flush with the bottom of the gear spring. I rounded off the bottom
corners of the spring with a file to clear the calipers. The calipers are
mounted on the The plane sits level on the gear.
--
Bryan Martin
N61BM, CH 601 XL, Stratus Subaru.
Airframe construction complete.
Panel and engine installed.
Working on electrical and interior.
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| Subject: | CH300 Wheel pants |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Ettore Petaccia" <ettorep@sympatico.ca>
Hi
I am searching for a complete set of wheel pants for my CH300.
If you have a set for sale or know of a source please let me know.
I am also looking for an aluminum adapter to install a Warp Drive with SAEII
bolt pattern to my Cont 0-300 with an ARP502 bolt pattern.
Thanks
Ettore
ettorep@sympatico.ca
C-GAVD
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "barry mayne" <bazmay@bigpond.com>
G'day all,
I fly a HDS and I am assisting a friend with a Murphy Rebel ultralight version
running a Jabiru 3300 engine. I have heard on this list where some are using
electric motors to operate flaps. The Murphy has flaperons and we want to operate
them electrically. Any information, no matter how minor would be greatly appreciated.
Please reply off list so as not to annoy those not interested.
Cheers
Barry Mayne
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| Subject: | Re: Starting Pitch |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "barry mayne" <bazmay@bigpond.com>
G'day John,
Nice to hear from you,. you must be getting close by now. Sorry I can't help
with the pitch question but I'm sure everyone will want to know some
performance figures using the warp drive prop with the Jab 3300 engine. Keep
us all posted.
Barry Mayne
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----- Original Message -----
From: "John Livsey" <jlivsey@bigpond.com>
Subject: Zenith-List: Starting Pitch
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: John Livsey <jlivsey@bigpond.com>
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