---------------------------------------------------------- Zenith-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 08/20/03: 9 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 06:10 AM - Re: Dramatuc Decusuib (Scott Laughlin) 2. 06:34 AM - Cortec 373 (Randall Thomure) 3. 10:46 AM - Rotary Info (Mike Fraley) 4. 11:27 AM - Re: 100th anniversary emblem (David Barth) 5. 12:24 PM - Selling 701 Project (rwash) 6. 01:48 PM - Re: Rotary Engine Update (Thilo Kind) 7. 04:12 PM - Re: Dramatuc Decusuib (Wayne McIntosh) 8. 05:53 PM - Re: Dramatuc Decusuib (Michel Therrien) 9. 06:40 PM - FS2004? (Philip Polstra) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 06:10:33 AM PST US From: "Scott Laughlin" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Dramatuc Decusuib --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Scott Laughlin" Great Photos Michel! I saved a few of them for future reference. It's great to see the ZAC workmanship. They do good work at the factory. I visited the ZAC factory for my rudder workshop in Jan. of this year. At my request I was shown the "Skunkworks" hangar with the old projects including the twin engine zodiac. They had "Retired" the older zodiac demo planes (two of them) and have no plans to sell them for liability reasons. The life of their demo planes is perhaps 5 to 10 years at best, so I don't think primer is an issue for them. They told me they would probably salvage parts from the old planes, then scrap them. These guys have all the resources to repair or rebuild anything in short order anyway. Thanks again for the photos. It's good to see you are still participating in the forum. Take care, Scott Laughlin www.cooknwithgas.com Get MSN 8 and enjoy automatic e-mail virus protection. ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:34:59 AM PST US From: "Randall Thomure" Subject: Zenith-List: Cortec 373 --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Randall Thomure" List I understand that ZAC uses Cortec 373. I talked to the local (Chicago area) Cortec rep. His recommendation is Cortec 374. One of the key differences is that 373 is intended to be top coated, whereas 374 can be left by itself. That may not be a problem on internal surfaces, but 374 may be the better choice. I have a sample of the product that I intend to test in the next week or two. If I am satisfied with the results, Ill pass the information along to the list. Cortec does not supply their products in small containers. If my tests are successful, I will be offering Cortec 374 in more user friendly quantities. If you are interested in receiving more information, please contact me off line. Randy Thomure 601XL Working on Tail Feathers, will get serious after summer is over. ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 10:46:12 AM PST US From: "Mike Fraley" Subject: Zenith-List: Rotary Info --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Mike Fraley" I've sent off an email to Midwest asking for prices and any info on sales/service in the US, but no reply so far. As far as sounding like it's screaming.... the specs say cruise is at 7100 rpm. I'm pass on Midwest's reply when recieved.... Mike Fraley 701 - Still researching ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 11:27:23 AM PST US From: David Barth Subject: Re: Zenith-List: 100th anniversary emblem --> Zenith-List message posted by: David Barth I was at the 200th anniversary of manned flight in Albecookie (sp?) New Mexico back in 1983. We had 785 hot air balloons in the air at one time. It was an amazing sight. I guess these emblem designers must have forgot about lighter-than-air flight. fwiw. David Do Not Archive ===== David Barth 601 XL Plansbuilder Still making parts. Nose Ribs Done and about half the rear ribs for the wings. Stab and elevator waiting for skins. Flaps, ailerons and Rudder ready for inspection. __________________________________ http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 12:24:22 PM PST US From: "rwash" Subject: Zenith-List: Selling 701 Project --> Zenith-List message posted by: "rwash" Readers, Do to health reasons I'm regretfully selling my 701 plans project that I started a year or so ago. It is the 4'th edition SP [sport pilot] Cad Drawings with serial number. All sheet metal MDF forms made except firewall and panel. Most all main wing ribs made except for one blank saved for pattern. Have metal flanging dies for ribs and spar made and are included. Have been working on main spars and have most material needed to finish. Have two 4x12 6061 .025 sheets cut and sorted for parts. Have 4x8 sheets of 6061 .032 and .040 still in box, all included. Over $1000 invested but will sell for $700 to a good home. Located in North-Central Ohio. Ron Washburn 740 465 4371 rwash@copper.net ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 01:48:12 PM PST US From: "Thilo Kind" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Rotary Engine Update --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Thilo Kind" Hi everybody, I just checked out Midwest web page. They are located in Egelsbach, Germany, which is just a few miles down the road from the place where I live right now. Will try to drop by within the next few days and talk to them. Results will be published to this list. Best regards Thilo Kind ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Fraley" Subject: Zenith-List: Rotary Engine Update > --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Mike Fraley" > > Hello All! > I've been looking into Rotary's for the last couple weeks, and here are a few things I've found.... > Atkins Rotary ( www.atkinsrotary.com) has a single rotor version, but no reduction drive. Rans aircraft are developing a drive for it, and plan to offer the package as an option. Dave Atkins says he has talked to Chris Heitz about using the eng. on ZAC planes, and Chris has said send him an eng and psru drive and they'll design the mounts... so again, they're waiting on the dirve. > Also, a couple companies overseas market a variety of rotarys, some certified to european standards. And interestingly, Midwest Rotarys of Germany ( http://www.avnet.co.uk/midwestengines/) features a rotary powered 601 on they're home page. If I've converted from metric correctly, I believe thier AE 110 eng. weighs in at 121 pounds, while producing 105 horsepower. Not to bad! > I will pass on any other interesting links I come across. And Gary... check out www.rotaryaviation.com .... they're flying various rotary powered RV products in the US. > > Mike Fraley > 701 > Thinking, Dreaming, Researching > > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 04:12:04 PM PST US From: "Wayne McIntosh" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Dramatuc Decusuib --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Wayne McIntosh" Michael, Nice pictures wish I could take pictures like that. Did you take any pictures inside the tail cone? That is whre I saw the green varnish looking stuff. Wayne McIntosh Lafayette IN ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michel Therrien" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Dramatuc Decusuib > --> Zenith-List message posted by: Michel Therrien > > I took some detailed pictures and see nothing that > looks like primer in there. > > http://mthobby.pcperfect.com/IMG_0500.JPG > http://mthobby.pcperfect.com/ch601/images/IMG_0498.JPG > http://mthobby.pcperfect.com/ch601/images/IMG_0502.JPG > http://mthobby.pcperfect.com/ch601/images/IMG_0497.JPG > http://mthobby.pcperfect.com/IMG_0501.JPG > > Michel > > > --- Wayne McIntosh wrote: > > --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Wayne McIntosh" > > > > > > You guys just did not look hard enough. The 601XL > > taildragger fuselage at > > Oshkosh had some sort of greenish almost varnish > > looking substance in all of > > the riveted areas. > > ===== > ---------------------------- > Michel Therrien CH601-HD, C-GZGQ > http://mthobby.pcperfect.com/ch601 > http://www.zenithair.com/bldrlist/profiles/mthobby > http://pages.infinit.net/mthobby > > __________________________________ > http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com > > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 05:53:02 PM PST US From: Michel Therrien Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Dramatuc Decusuib --> Zenith-List message posted by: Michel Therrien No I did'nt. I posted everything I got on the XL modifications. Michel do not archive --- Wayne McIntosh wrote: > --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Wayne McIntosh" > > > Michael, > Nice pictures wish I could take pictures like > that. Did you take any > pictures inside the tail cone? That is whre I saw > the green varnish looking > stuff. > Wayne McIntosh Lafayette IN > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Michel Therrien" > To: > Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Dramatuc Decusuib > > > > --> Zenith-List message posted by: Michel Therrien > > > > > I took some detailed pictures and see nothing that > > looks like primer in there. > > > > http://mthobby.pcperfect.com/IMG_0500.JPG > > > http://mthobby.pcperfect.com/ch601/images/IMG_0498.JPG > > > http://mthobby.pcperfect.com/ch601/images/IMG_0502.JPG > > > http://mthobby.pcperfect.com/ch601/images/IMG_0497.JPG > > http://mthobby.pcperfect.com/IMG_0501.JPG > > > > Michel > > > > > > --- Wayne McIntosh > wrote: > > > --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Wayne > McIntosh" > > > > > > > > > You guys just did not look hard enough. The > 601XL > > > taildragger fuselage at > > > Oshkosh had some sort of greenish almost varnish > > > looking substance in all of > > > the riveted areas. > > > > ===== > > ---------------------------- > > Michel Therrien CH601-HD, C-GZGQ > > http://mthobby.pcperfect.com/ch601 > > > http://www.zenithair.com/bldrlist/profiles/mthobby > > http://pages.infinit.net/mthobby > > > > __________________________________ > > http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com > > > > > > > > Contributions > any other > Forums. > > latest messages. > List members. > > http://www.matronics.com/subscription > http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Zenith-List.htm > http://www.matronics.com/archives > http://www.matronics.com/photoshare > http://www.matronics.com/emaillists > > > > > ===== ---------------------------- Michel Therrien CH601-HD, C-GZGQ http://mthobby.pcperfect.com/ch601 http://www.zenithair.com/bldrlist/profiles/mthobby http://pages.infinit.net/mthobby __________________________________ http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 06:40:31 PM PST US From: "Philip Polstra" Subject: Zenith-List: FS2004? --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Philip Polstra" Anyone have a Zodiac or Alarus file that works with FS2004? I tried some of the files from the Zenith website and I'm missing a few important things, like airspeed and tach.