---------------------------------------------------------- Zenith-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 08/27/03: 6 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 12:31 AM - Re: Presentation & Questions. (Volucer) 2. 06:40 AM - Re: Presentation & Questions. (Carlos Sa) 3. 08:47 AM - PSRU overview and related considerations (David Barth) 4. 12:07 PM - Re: Presentation & Questions. (Jeff & Marcia Davidson) 5. 12:32 PM - 2003 Open House (RUSSELL JOHNSON) 6. 04:40 PM - 601HDS Project For Sale (TCotter2@cs.com) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 12:31:09 AM PST US From: "Volucer" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Presentation & Questions. --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Volucer" Thanks to all replays, It was not my sense of meanness to ask for used plans... Any way I understand what you mean Sal. I believe that company support is important. I have already check with the Europeans representations Randy but they ask higher price for the plans I try to verify why. Jeff- The XL model seems to be heavier with no considerable speed improvements, is that correct? Should I consider speed or not? what about wing efficient at altitude? There are any flying one's? there is sufficient experience to say that they are better? Please remember that I am new to the 601. Shahar Tsabari Italy ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:40:29 AM PST US From: Carlos Sa Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Presentation & Questions. --> Zenith-List message posted by: Carlos Sa I'd like to point out that you *are* allowed to sell/buy plans - and transfer ownership/support. All you need to do is to make sure ZAC is informed that serial # so-and-so is now owned by xyz. The new owner will then be entitled to receive support from ZAC. I did buy my plans from a gentleman that decided to build and RV. At the time, the hundred or two hundred bucks saved was important to me because I hadn't committed to building the 601, so if I decided against it, I wanted to minimize losses. I must say I have no regrets whatsoever, as ZAC has provided me with their usual (great) support. My two cents worth... Carlos CH601 HD, plans - tail feathers done, building wings. > > It is hard to me to decide what to build HD or HDS; it is not the > > complexity of the HDS that worry me so please fill free to subject any thing else. > > > >...The real > thing to remember is that what comes along with the plans is the > factory support and if you look at the price of a new set of plans > that support is a good buy... > Sal Capra ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 08:47:50 AM PST US From: David Barth Subject: Zenith-List: PSRU overview and related considerations --> Zenith-List message posted by: David Barth Hi List. For anyone interested in a PSRU for your project, I stumbled across a great little website with information of considerations and design issues. It is well laid out and good information for anyone looking at selecting their own prop or buying/building a PRSU http://www.epi-eng.com/GBX-Overview.htm Cheers David ===== David Barth 601 XL Plansbuilder Still making parts. Nose Ribs Done and about half the rear ribs for the wings. Stab and elevator waiting for skins. Flaps, ailerons and Rudder ready for inspection. __________________________________ http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 12:07:05 PM PST US From: "Jeff & Marcia Davidson" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Presentation & Questions. --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Jeff & Marcia Davidson" >>The XL model seems to be heavier with no considerable speed improvements, is that correct? Concerning speed, you will find a lot of discussion in the archives on this. Let's just say that the speeds attained vary from individual plane to individual plane. In my opinion, the 601 simply is not a fast airplane nor a good IFR platform. The XL is built to support a heavier engine and has other improvements. Canopy design and landing gear are just the beginning. Jeff Davidson ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 12:32:38 PM PST US From: "RUSSELL JOHNSON" Subject: Zenith-List: 2003 Open House --> Zenith-List message posted by: "RUSSELL JOHNSON" This past Friday and Saturday I had the pleasure of getting to fly in both Fred Hulen and Jeff Small's Zodie Rockets. What a blast!!! Reminds me of my younger days when I first put a West Bend engine in my Percival Hellcat racing cart, except these Hellcat's (Zodiac's) had wings. Jeff and Fred's workmanship has to been seen in person to appreciate. Jeff even incorporated some fancy woodwork into his aircraft's interior. Airspeed? I was having to much fun enjoying the incredible view out of that fantastic bubble and making with the tight turns to even notice what the airspeed was. If you want to see a "trick" forward hinge system for the canopy, and also an all metal engine cowl, lookup Bill Nichelson's "Casual Passion" at the next airshow he attends. Just before noon on Saturday the open house was invaded by a swarm (make that 10 or 12) of Navions. I visited with one of their club members, he said there could be as high as 20 show up, but that never materialized. There was a total of five 601's that showed up and also one CH-200 in attendance. Russell J. do not archive ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 04:40:43 PM PST US From: TCotter2@cs.com Subject: Zenith-List: 601HDS Project For Sale --> Zenith-List message posted by: TCotter2@cs.com Still have a 601HDS Project For Sale. Full kit, tri gear, small header and wing tanks, forward hinge canopy, structure about 75% complete. Well built. $12,000 Tim Cotter TCotter2@cs.com Greenville, SC Do Not Archive