---------------------------------------------------------- Zenith-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sun 08/31/03: 13 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 06:57 AM - Online construction log. (Volucer) 2. 07:27 AM - Re: Online construction log. (Ray Montagne) 3. 07:46 AM - Re: Online construction log. (Cy Galley) 4. 09:57 AM - Wing Baggage Lockers (W.R. \) 5. 03:46 PM - 601 toe-in (Bill Steer) 6. 04:13 PM - Re: 601 toe-in (Charles Sonberg) 7. 04:25 PM - Re: Wing Baggage Lockers (Cleone Markwell) 8. 05:24 PM - Re: Wing Baggage Lockers (Larry McFarland) 9. 06:08 PM - Re: Wing Baggage Lockers (Carlos Sa) 10. 07:54 PM - Re: 601 toe-in (Benford2@aol.com) 11. 09:05 PM - Newbie stuff (Bill Cardell) 12. 09:13 PM - CH601 HD/HDS Plans for sale or trade (Andy Smith) 13. 10:54 PM - Re: Newbie stuff (Charles Sonberg) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 06:57:10 AM PST US From: "Volucer" Subject: Zenith-List: Online construction log. --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Volucer" Hi, Dose anybody know the e-mail address of the guy that have this web site: http://home.earthlink.net/~georgead/#WHY_I_CHOSE_THIS_KIT Thanks, Shahar Tsabari Italy ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 07:27:25 AM PST US Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Online construction log. From: Ray Montagne --> Zenith-List message posted by: Ray Montagne On 8/31/03 6:52 AM, "Volucer" wrote: > --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Volucer" > > Hi, > Dose anybody know the e-mail address of the guy that have this web site: > http://home.earthlink.net/~georgead/#WHY_I_CHOSE_THIS_KIT > > Thanks, > Shahar Tsabari > Italy > Most likely it is 'georgead@earthlink.net'. DO NOT ARCHIVE Best Regards, Ray Montagne Cupertino, CA =========================================================================== Zenith Aircraft Zodiac CH-601-XL, Jabiru 3300 Construction Log & Photos: Build Status: Rudder completed Elevator Completed Stabilizer Completed Flaps Completed Ailerons Completed Right Wing Under Completed Right Wing Tip Completed Left Wing Under Construction =========================================================================== ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:46:41 AM PST US From: "Cy Galley" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Online construction log. --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Cy Galley" try georgead@earthlink.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Volucer" Subject: Zenith-List: Online construction log. > --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Volucer" > > Hi, > Dose anybody know the e-mail address of the guy that have this web site: > http://home.earthlink.net/~georgead/#WHY_I_CHOSE_THIS_KIT > > Thanks, > Shahar Tsabari > Italy > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 09:57:04 AM PST US From: "W.R. \"Gig\" Giacona" Subject: Zenith-List: Wing Baggage Lockers --> Zenith-List message posted by: "W.R. \"Gig\" Giacona" I'm installing the right wing locker from kit and the length of the back panel is 500mm the space it is going in is 520mm (between RR# 4 & 5). The plans show L angles being placed on the sides of the panel that then connect to the ribs. Does anybody have photos of thier installation? Gig Giacona www.peoamerica.net/N601WR ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 03:46:02 PM PST US From: "Bill Steer" Subject: Zenith-List: 601 toe-in --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Bill Steer" I looked in the archives for information on this, but am more confused than before I looked. The 601 manual says to set 1/16" toe-in for the main gear. My question is - what's the definition of that 1/16"? Is it the difference in two measurements when the gear is off the ground (e.g., inside back of tire minus inside front of tire), or is it the difference in the track of the wheels for one revolution? If it's the latter, how did you folks measure it? I'm not so sure I can measure 1/32" accurately just by rolling the plane. Thanks for any help and advice. Bill ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 04:13:07 PM PST US From: "Charles Sonberg" <2408s@cox-internet.com> Subject: RE: Zenith-List: 601 toe-in --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Charles Sonberg" <2408s@cox-internet.com> I made mine as straight as possible and have had no problems landing or tire wear. Chuck I looked in the archives for information on this, but am more confused than before I looked. The 601 manual says to set 1/16" toe-in for the main gear. My question is - what's the definition of that 1/16"? Is it the difference in two measurements when the gear is off the ground (e.g., inside back of tire minus inside front of tire), or is it the difference in the track of the wheels for one revolution? If it's the latter, how did you folks measure it? I'm not so sure I can measure 1/32" accurately just by rolling the plane. Thanks for any help and advice. Bill ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 04:25:17 PM PST US From: Cleone Markwell Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Wing Baggage Lockers --> Zenith-List message posted by: Cleone Markwell Gig, This does not answer your question, but while you are working on the lockers please give some thought to securing the locker doors good. I must admit that I failed to make a good preflight yesterday and I had the right locker door open about 10 inches and as I started to climb it took a lot of aileron to overcome the loss of lift of the right wing so I put it down immediately in the grass beside the runway. After reading of one of our builders crashing when a door opened I changed to using 2 10/32 screws in addition to the supplied fasteners. However, the only failure was my inspection. Cleone At 11:55 AM 8/31/03 -0500, you wrote: >--> Zenith-List message posted by: "W.R. \"Gig\" Giacona" > > >I'm installing the right wing locker from kit and the length of the back >panel is 500mm the space it is going in is 520mm (between RR# 4 & 5). > >The plans show L angles being placed on the sides of the panel that then >connect to the ribs. Does anybody have photos of thier installation? > > >Gig Giacona >www.peoamerica.net/N601WR > > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 05:24:56 PM PST US From: "Larry McFarland" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Wing Baggage Lockers --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Larry McFarland" > I'm installing the right wing locker from kit and the length of the back > panel is 500mm the space it is going in is 520mm (between RR# 4 & 5). > > The plans show L angles being placed on the sides of the panel that then > connect to the ribs. Does anybody have photos of thier installation? > > > Gig Giacona > www.peoamerica.net/N601WR Gig, On my site there's a page on the baggage area which shows door reinforcing angles and what was done to connect the back panel between the ribs. A little trimming at the lightening holes was needed to get them right. Look at the wing directory and then the baggage subdirectory. Hope this helps. Larry McFarland - 601hds website @ www.macsmachine.com ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 06:08:24 PM PST US From: Carlos Sa Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Wing Baggage Lockers --> Zenith-List message posted by: Carlos Sa ... might be worth adding a microswitch and an alarm on the instrument panel ... Just a thought... Carlos > Gig, > This does not answer your question, but while you are working on the > lockers please give some thought to securing the locker doors good. I must > admit that I failed to make a good preflight yesterday and I had the right > locker door open about 10 inches and as I started to climb it took a lot of > aileron to overcome the loss of lift of the right wing so I put it down > immediately in the grass beside the runway. After reading of one of our > builders crashing when a door opened I changed to using 2 10/32 screws in > addition to the supplied fasteners. However, the only failure was my > inspection. > Cleone ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 07:54:42 PM PST US From: Benford2@aol.com Subject: Re: Zenith-List: 601 toe-in --> Zenith-List message posted by: Benford2@aol.com In a message dated 8/31/2003 4:46:51 PM Mountain Daylight Time, bsteer@gwi.net writes: > > I looked in the archives for information on this, but am more confused than > before I looked. The 601 manual says to set 1/16" toe-in for the main gear. > My question is - what's the definition of that 1/16"? Is it the difference > in two measurements when the gear is off the ground (e.g., inside back of > tire minus inside front of tire), or is it the difference in the track of the > wheels for one revolution? If it's the latter, how did you folks measure it? > I'm not so sure I can measure 1/32" accurately just by rolling the plane. > > Thanks for any help and advice. > > Checking toe is pretty easy. All ya got to do is jack up the plane so the wheels can spin. With a piece of chalk or any thing that will make a thin line on the tire, spin the tire and make a line all the way around it. It can be any where across the face of the tire. Now do that to the other tire. Simply measure the front of both tires at the line and the rear of the tires at the line. The difference is the toe in/ toe out. ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 09:05:05 PM PST US From: Bill Cardell Subject: Zenith-List: Newbie stuff --> Zenith-List message posted by: Bill Cardell I introduced myself to this list probably six months ago and promptly disapeared. Just resubbed and bought a partially done ch601HD, along with ea81 Stratus, firewall forward kit, etc. Any thoughts on how far along they will allow a plane to be before I can't get the repairman's certificate? Wings are done on this one, no turtledeck on yet, nor any cables or firewall forward. I bought one that had been donated to www.donateyourplane.com Haven't gone to pick it up yet. Bill Cardell (TurboDog's Dad) Flyin' Miata www.flyinmiata.com www.fmprotege.com 970-242-3800 ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 09:13:27 PM PST US From: Andy Smith Subject: Zenith-List: CH601 HD/HDS Plans for sale or trade zenith builderlist --> Zenith-List message posted by: Andy Smith I have a set of 601 hd and hds plans with wing tank mods, trim mods for sale or trade. I have so many projects going on I just don't have the time and would like to sell for $250 or maybe trade for a set of other plans or more than one set. If interested email me and we will see what we can work out. David Mikesell skyguynca@skyguynca.com www.skyguynca.com __________________________________ http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 10:54:16 PM PST US From: "Charles Sonberg" <2408s@cox-internet.com> Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Newbie stuff --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Charles Sonberg" <2408s@cox-internet.com> I got my repairman's certificate after completion. Chuck --> Zenith-List message posted by: Bill Cardell I introduced myself to this list probably six months ago and promptly disapeared. Just resubbed and bought a partially done ch601HD, along with ea81 Stratus, firewall forward kit, etc. Any thoughts on how far along they will allow a plane to be before I can't get the repairman's certificate? Wings are done on this one, no turtledeck on yet, nor any cables or firewall forward. I bought one that had been donated to www.donateyourplane.com Haven't gone to pick it up yet. _